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Bible study rules for public schools proposed

There are 142387 comments on the The Courier-Journal story from Feb 10, 2010, titled Bible study rules for public schools proposed. In it, The Courier-Journal reports that:

FRANKFORT, Ky. - The state would create rules for teaching about the Bible in public high schools under a bill filed Monday by three Democratic senators.

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“Breaking the spell ”

Since: Dec 10

of the puppet master

#106870 Jun 13, 2013
do whut wrote:
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The military is very efficient in their assistance as well. But they get paid for it. I'm speaking of volunteer effort.
Oh, so now it all about volunteering and not about organizations that help those in time of need?
What does it matter? Not as if you will ever concede a point no matter how much evidence we trot out to prove you wrong.

“I Am No One Else”

Since: Apr 12

Seattle

#106871 Jun 13, 2013
do whut wrote:
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So scientists are farmers?
Yes sending money is great, but without organized efforts, how would money turn in to usefulness to people in disastrous situations?
I'm not saying atheists don't or can't help. I'm talking about the organized efforts that make the impact at the disaster sites. These are mostly church organized or governmental. The military also does a great job of this when they are called in to help.
Are you seriously this uneducated? Most of our food is genetically modified, before science it was hit and miss, more failures than successes, to produce high yield crops capable of growing in the open areas. Science has allowed us to refine this method of improving crops so that the US, and a few other countries, have an over abundance of food. Without these high yield crops, there would not be enough food to even feed the US at our current population level, much less enough so farmers were able to give some of it away for free.
curious

Ocoee, FL

#106872 Jun 13, 2013
Mike Duquette wrote:
<quoted text>I can admit wrong doings without a god. Usually I ask the person I transgressed for forgiveness, not some god that had nothing to do with the incident.
My burdened, guilty mind helps prevent me from repeating the transgressions.
Working to earn forgiveness from the transgressed helps remind me to not repeat the offense.
But thanks for telling is what you think we think. Did you read that in your propaganda handbook?
Based on my understanding of human nature,we are basically selfish.
When we commit either an illegal or immoral act,we know that what we are doing is wrong,but,we go ahead and do it anyway.
This is done in order to fulfill those inner illegal and immoral desires inhabiting our imperfect human nature.
When we commit these acts,we want to do it in secret,not wanting others to know , for fear of the consecuences.
After committing these acts,we feel a sense of fulfillment,not remorse.
If our illegal or immoral behaviour is discovered,our reaction is to deny,not feel guilty.
As I understand what you have posted,after you commit an illegal or immoral act,you,voluntarily, will go to your victim and ask for forgiveness.
Your sense of guilt,will from then on,detain you from committing those same illegal or immoral acts.
You need to bring that simplistic solution to Barrack Obama's attention.
He wants to spend millions of dollars in research in order to cut down on the mass killings and other crimes that have taken place in our country.
I see where you wrote
"I can admit wrong doings without a God"
Very different from saying; I do admit wrong doings without a God.
Also,you wrote" Usually,I ask the person I transgressed for forgiveness"
I take that to mean,You usually do and or,You usually don't..
Depending on how grievous the transgression....
This formula that yuo provided ,where and how has it's effectiveness been established?
Or is that the unrealistic opinion of some guys living in a make believe world?
ProvenScience

London, KY

#106873 Jun 13, 2013
Mike Duquette wrote:
<quoted text>Personal preference? So no Holy Ghost is involved? Thanks for making my point for me.
I would not think so, not in picking flavors of actually meant for consumption edibles. I wouldn't even attempt to try and speak for how people may or may not, choose for a myriad of other preferences!
ProvenScience

London, KY

#106874 Jun 13, 2013
Mike Duquette wrote:
<quoted text>Goverment is not the church, so what's your point? Goverment helps a lot and is secular, so seems your point about needing religion to help fails.
Did you happen to catch the news on FEMA denying help to the area of Texas flattened by the blaze a few weeks ago?

May be time to UN-tax exempt the government, from it's little status quo of tax free safety net as well.
ProvenScience

London, KY

#106875 Jun 13, 2013
Mike Duquette wrote:
<quoted text>Oh, so now it all about volunteering and not about organizations that help those in time of need?
What does it matter? Not as if you will ever concede a point no matter how much evidence we trot out to prove you wrong.
Hmm...now let's think about that one FIRST.

Over-bloated, often over-compensated (and often way abused) government paid "workers" at government "paid" jawbs.... versus "Volunteerism".

Okay Duquette, now that one really should Not take ANY depth or effort of thought- in considerations of comparisons.

“Breaking the spell ”

Since: Dec 10

of the puppet master

#106876 Jun 13, 2013
ProvenScience wrote:
<quoted text>
Hmm...now let's think about that one FIRST.
Over-bloated, often over-compensated (and often way abused) government paid "workers" at government "paid" jawbs.... versus "Volunteerism".
Okay Duquette, now that one really should Not take ANY depth or effort of thought- in considerations of comparisons.
if you think the church volunteers will take care of your needs, you know nothing of history.
I was not comparing anyway, I was just noting who is actually helping.
I noted other secular volunteers that you could compare to the church volunteers.

“See how you are?”

Since: Jul 12

Earth

#106877 Jun 13, 2013
ProvenScience wrote:
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Did you happen to catch the news on FEMA denying help to the area of Texas flattened by the blaze a few weeks ago?
May be time to UN-tax exempt the government, from it's little status quo of tax free safety net as well.
FEMA has given millions to West, Texas. Funny how Tea Party types want the feds to cut, then spend, then cut, then spend... and blame them for it either either way. Fema is not a bottomless well, we're barely into wildfire and hurricane season. What does the TP EXPECT? "The answers are blowin' in the wind..."Just to steer back on topic, five of the eleven biggest mega churches in the country are in Texas. Maybe you can Google how much $$$ they've tossed toward their lil' ol' neighbors - I sure haven't found anything.
Yes and Amen

Georgetown, KY

#106879 Jun 13, 2013
do whut wrote:
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If you are saved, why haven't you been translated? Since Christ told us to keep learning more, and that we could know the mysteries of the kingdom, are you complete in your knowledge? Do you think that what little Jesus taught us is sufficient? Or should we try to learn more? We only have the teachings that those people were ready for at the time from the NT.
Not another gospel of Christ, but THE gospel of Christ. Not the one that was changed by Constantine's council of men. Not the one that was modified by the church once Kings figured out they could profit by modifying scripture and traditions. Not the one that Satan helped change just enough to cause division and confusion.
We are all spirit as well, but we are housed in a body, just as Jesus is. Think about it. We know He was resurrected. He has a body. And we know that He isn't the Father, because not even Jesus knows when the Father will have Him return.
Translated as in
Colossians 1:13, or
Hebrews 11:5???
What scripture is it that Christ told us to "Learn more"?
You do know that Christ taught out of the OT, as the NT
wasn't written yet, nor was the BOM!
So... All fallowers of Christ didn't know jack until
the BOM came along?
Yes, my communion with Christ has taught me a lot, and NO...
He did NOT tell me to read the BOM,!
You do know why Christ told stories to the lay people...
don't you?
Yes and Amen

Georgetown, KY

#106880 Jun 13, 2013
KittenKoder wrote:
<quoted text>
If they spent half of what they spend on temples to help the poor, there would be no poor in the US.
WOW!
Mark this date down...
you said something I can agree with!
ALL mega churches have lost their direction, but....
Spending money does help the economy!
Yes and Amen

Georgetown, KY

#106881 Jun 13, 2013
Yiago wrote:
<quoted text>
Test for god:
1) Want there to be a god.
2) Believe what you want.
3) If 2) matches 1) then confirmed.
It's mathematical!
Wrong!
(1) thinking there is no God,
(2) wanting to end it all,
(3) God shows up, and ruins yer plans!
It's spiritual... Not mathematical!
Yes and Amen

Georgetown, KY

#106882 Jun 13, 2013
ProvenScience wrote:
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ANY one who uses such in ANY way to disparage, steer wrongly and/or thump others, ESPECIALLY in ways that are obviously just self serving and self exaulting, is doing damage....by insulting the actual intelligence of people that KNOW better.
(Did it ever occur to you YaA-that maybe that was just the more common language used of the times, in some of the more read sectors? Kind of like being in Italy, and expecting all the road signs to be en Englais, because France was located nearby....)
PS: Poking YaA back in he own eye, for lashing assumedly by choice, while possibly not exactly thinking in more depth.
What do you think the reformation was all about?
Do you think they executed William Tyndale for other crimes against the church?
Poke!
Yes and Amen

Georgetown, KY

#106883 Jun 13, 2013
Mike Duquette wrote:
<quoted text>So the Holy Ghost could not help out with these things?
You guys rely to much on what the ancients wrote.
relying on something that's been around from the creation... God!
Yes and Amen

Georgetown, KY

#106884 Jun 13, 2013
Quantummist wrote:
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Yup... give a guy a fish and you feed him for a day, teach him how to genetically alter fish to reproduce at triple the rate and grow 3 times as fast and he will become a millionaire and be able to buy Steak and fine wine anytime he likes.....
Then...
Eating the genetically altered fish causes hermaphrodites, and man will call it natural evolution!
Go figure!

Since: Aug 10

Location hidden

#106885 Jun 13, 2013
ChromiuMan wrote:
<quoted text>It strayed afield. There is nothing good coming from discouraging students to study current science in favor of 3rd-19th century rhetoric.
What?

Since: Aug 10

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#106886 Jun 13, 2013
Mike Duquette wrote:
<quoted text>Goverment is not the church, so what's your point? Goverment helps a lot and is secular, so seems your point about needing religion to help fails.
That wasn't my point at all

Since: Aug 10

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#106887 Jun 13, 2013
Mike Duquette wrote:
<quoted text>Oh, so now it all about volunteering and not about organizations that help those in time of need?
What does it matter? Not as if you will ever concede a point no matter how much evidence we trot out to prove you wrong.
You obviously don't even know what the point of this tangent was.

Since: Aug 10

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#106888 Jun 13, 2013
KittenKoder wrote:
<quoted text>Are you seriously this uneducated? Most of our food is genetically modified, before science it was hit and miss, more failures than successes, to produce high yield crops capable of growing in the open areas. Science has allowed us to refine this method of improving crops so that the US, and a few other countries, have an over abundance of food. Without these high yield crops, there would not be enough food to even feed the US at our current population level, much less enough so farmers were able to give some of it away for free.
Yes and you should educate yourself on what this has done to the food you eat. Once healthy crops are no longer healthy for us anymore. Research wheat for example. Thanks science

“Speaker of Mountain Wisdom....”

Since: Jan 10

London, KY

#106890 Jun 13, 2013
Yes and Amen wrote:
<quoted text>Then...
Eating the genetically altered fish causes hermaphrodites, and man will call it natural evolution!
Go figure!
Since hermaphrodites have been around for as long as human history sorta pokes a hole in that concept....

“Speaker of Mountain Wisdom....”

Since: Jan 10

London, KY

#106891 Jun 13, 2013
do whut wrote:
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Yes and you should educate yourself on what this has done to the food you eat. Once healthy crops are no longer healthy for us anymore. Research wheat for example. Thanks science
If the crops are not healthy then why do we live so much longer than before we started modifying crops.... If we were to stop the cross breeding and other scientific control of crops mass starvation would kill off large portions of the US and world populations... If we grew crops as we did in 1900 our farmland in the US could not support even half of our population... But today we not only feed our people but have enough surplus to feed much of the world.....

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