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Bible study rules for public schools proposed

There are 147278 comments on the The Courier-Journal story from Feb 10, 2010, titled Bible study rules for public schools proposed. In it, The Courier-Journal reports that:

FRANKFORT, Ky. - The state would create rules for teaching about the Bible in public high schools under a bill filed Monday by three Democratic senators.

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defender

London, KY

#104949 May 27, 2013
Yiago wrote:
<quoted text>I have posted tons of links. I can't help it if you dropped out in 3rd grade and can't read.

Have you ever seen a skeleton of any kind? If so, you have seen a "transitional fossil". Everything is transitional when you create arbitrary labels like species. Life is constantly changing.
Umm... No I looked back.. Nothing...
defender

London, KY

#104950 May 27, 2013
Yiago wrote:
Of course I don't mean to say that every skeleton is a fossil. My point was that all forms are in a state of change over time.

Because that's how life works. It changes. Over time.
Ok let me make it simple as possible.. There has to be somewhere in all that overwhelming evidence a clear intermediate... Perhaps a fossil of a rhino with it's horn in half development or a spices of bat with half developed wings as evolutionist claim mutated from it's fingers... Good luck...

“pervinco per logica”

Since: Feb 12

Eradicate willful ignorance.

#104951 May 27, 2013
defender wrote:
<quoted text>
Ok let me make it simple as possible.. There has to be somewhere in all that overwhelming evidence a clear intermediate... Perhaps a fossil of a rhino with it's horn in half development or a spices of bat with half developed wings as evolutionist claim mutated from it's fingers... Good luck...
Good luck with what? Good luck with answering a malformed request based on your complete misunderstanding of evolution, the concept of mya, probability of fossilization, and essentially anything else that we might be talking about? I mean, well over half of ALL known dinosaur genera are known because of single fossils. We expect that we have found fossils of around 1/3 of all genera. It's like looking for a needle in a 300 ft tall haystack that got obliterated by a tsunami and covered by 30 feet of sediment. In other words, holy sh!t are you stupid.

How about, instead, you answer my damn request and quit trying to prove your point by disproving science. It won't work.(And we all know what transitional/intermediate fossils are and that fundie nutjobs never accept them, because they always want something between the transition and the next step, to infinity.)

Tell me how science produced the "theory" of intelligent design. Show me where it has been tested, as all scientific theories have. Once you can do that, we can begin discussing the merits of your theory in comparison to others. UNTIL that point, your "theory" is worth no more than any other baseless, insane rant and is not even remotely worth discussing.

“pervinco per logica”

Since: Feb 12

Eradicate willful ignorance.

#104952 May 27, 2013
ProvenScience wrote:
<quoted text>
They haven't been able to yet.
That is why they call it the "God particle".
Which incidentally was more vulgarly (as in blasphemously)named originally due to to it's elusive, incomplete understanding of, but even science and scientists decide to restrain the vulgarity and opted for the more ethical "high road" instead, dubbing it and publishing it as the "God particle".
And it's actually more "Physics" related, in comparison to the "nature" of the theory of evolution.
...what?
Ye of lil Understanding

Winchester, KY

#104953 May 28, 2013
wtf wrote:
<quoted text>You are a shame.
Romans
1:16 For I am not ashamed of the gospel of Christ: for it is the
power of God to salvation to every one that believeth; to the
Jew first, and also to the Greek.
1:17 For in this is the righteousness of God revealed from faith
to faith: as it is written, The just shall live by faith.
1:18 For the wrath of God is revealed from heaven against all
ungodliness, and unrighteousness of men, who hold the truth in
unrighteousness.
1:19 Because that which may be known of God, is manifest in
them; for God hath shown [it] to them.
Ye of lil Understanding

Winchester, KY

#104954 May 28, 2013
wtf wrote:
<quoted text>You judgmental SOB.
Romans
1:26 For this cause God gave them up to vile affections. For
even their women did change the natural use into that which is
against nature:
1:27 And likewise also the men, leaving the natural use of the
woman, burned in their lust one towards another; men with men
working that which is unseemly, and receiving in themselves
that recompense of their error which was meet.
1:28 And even as they did not like to retain God in [their]
knowledge, God gave them over to a reprobate mind, to do those
things which are not convenient;
1:29 Being filled with all unrighteousness, fornication,
wickedness, covetousness, maliciousness; full of envy, murder,
debate, deceit, malignity; whisperers,
1:30 Backbiters, haters of God, despiteful, proud, boasters,
inventers of evil things, disobedient to parents,
1:31 Without understanding, covenant-breakers, without natural
affection, implacable, unmerciful:
1:32 Who, knowing the judgment of God, that they who commit such
things are worthy of death; not only do the same, but have
pleasure in them that do them.
.
Bless you!
Ye of lil Understanding

Winchester, KY

#104955 May 28, 2013
wtf wrote:
<quoted text>You need Special Ed.
You need Ed period!
John
3:16 For God so loved the world, that he gave his only-begotten
Son, that whoever believeth in him, should not perish, but have
everlasting life.
3:17 For God sent not his Son into the world to condemn the
world, but that the world through him may be saved.
3:18 He that believeth on him, is not condemned: but he that
believeth not, is condemned already, because he hath not
believed in the name of the only-begotten Son of God.
3:19 And this is the condemnation, that light is come into the
world, and men have loved darkness rather than light, because
their deeds were evil.
3:20 For every one that doeth evil hateth the light, neither
cometh to the light, lest his deeds should be reproved.
3:21 But he that doeth truth, cometh to the light, that his
deeds may be made manifest, that they are wrought in God.
How stupid can you be

Winchester, KY

#104956 May 28, 2013
Mike Duquette wrote:
<quoted text>Again, if wrong is wrong, why do you only demand homosexuals not have the right to marry? Why not keep all people who are wrong from marrying?
Families were around long before your god was invented.
What a nut!
God created ALL, Not the other way around!
Buy a clue!
Yes and Amen

Winchester, KY

#104957 May 28, 2013
defender wrote:
<quoted text>
Thank you... I can't seem to get anyone of them to answer these questions...Wonder why?
Darkness hates the Light!
If they seen the Light, they'd be on here posting against
everything they're posting for now!
That scares them!
God Bless :-)

Since: Aug 10

Location hidden

#104958 May 28, 2013
defender wrote:
<quoted text>
It was a simple question... Where did the intelligence for reproduction ( not life ) come from?
This is the type of question that _Ummm is complaining about. And I agree with him. It's outside the scope of what Evolution explains.

How did life originate? How did asexual reproduction originate? How did sexual reproduction originate? The theory of Evolution doesn't deal with any of these topics, nor should it. Evolution explains the diversification of life, not how it came into existence. Capisce?

All that aside, my question to you was what "cause and effect" provides scientific evidence for ID and not Evolution? This is something that you initially claimed (or at least strongly implied). How does your complaint that the Theory of Evolution doesn't define reproduction's origin provide evidence of ID?

“Breaking the spell ”

Since: Dec 10

of the puppet master

#104959 May 28, 2013
ProvenScience wrote:
<quoted text>
If schools aren't "allowed" to incorporate decency, ethics, respect for and Of others in daily routines, schools (that don't already), need to teach PHYSICS (again), even if Science itself, has yet to be able to answer ALL the questions all the time.
Such would redeem at least having some Faith in hope in future generations, because at least they might realize then, that until such a time when Science "knows all" (because it doesn't), it is good (Not bad) to treat others decently, ethically and respectfully in the meantime!
If the school is teaching ethics, maybe it should hold up the OT to show what is the most unethical rule book a culture could devise then show how logic and reasoning works so much better than rule books such as this.

“Breaking the spell ”

Since: Dec 10

of the puppet master

#104960 May 28, 2013
defender wrote:
<quoted text>
Oh ok then guess we'll just have to take speculation as fact then... Wait a sec!! You already do that!!!
We take partial fossils that paint a large picture. You deny that picture exists.

“Breaking the spell ”

Since: Dec 10

of the puppet master

#104961 May 28, 2013
defender wrote:
<quoted text>
What question? Please restate...
Really? I asked more than once. What is your explanation of the dinosaur/ bird fossils found? What is your explanation of the many upright hominid fossils?

Since: Aug 10

Location hidden

#104962 May 28, 2013
Mike Duquette wrote:
<quoted text>We take partial fossils that paint a large picture. You deny that picture exists.
Yeah, he's playing the God of the Gaps card. I recently went through this with a relative. After about 30 minutes of back and forth, I asked him "what if there was a clear line of fossil evidence? What if the Smithsonian had on display, a perfectly preserved, and complete line of fossils that showed every "transition" from Darwinius to modern man? What would you think of that?" he replied "probably not much, it wouldn't change my mind at all". I then asked him "Then why do you even bring up holes in the fossil record?". He stared at me for a couple of seconds and then asked me how my job was going.

“Breaking the spell ”

Since: Dec 10

of the puppet master

#104963 May 28, 2013
defender wrote:
<quoted text>
Ok let me make it simple as possible.. There has to be somewhere in all that overwhelming evidence a clear intermediate... Perhaps a fossil of a rhino with it's horn in half development or a spices of bat with half developed wings as evolutionist claim mutated from it's fingers... Good luck...
Many new traits are thought to come about quickly. This the likelihood of a transition fossil like this is very low. But their are fish with fins that look and work like legs in a transition like state.

“Breaking the spell ”

Since: Dec 10

of the puppet master

#104964 May 28, 2013
How stupid can you be wrote:
<quoted text>What a nut!
God created ALL, Not the other way around!
Buy a clue!
Got evidence? Thanks for your superstitious opinion.
You are effectively calling most scientists, stupid nuts.

“Breaking the spell ”

Since: Dec 10

of the puppet master

#104965 May 28, 2013
ProvenScience wrote:
<quoted text>
If schools aren't "allowed" to incorporate decency, ethics, respect for and Of others in daily routines, schools (that don't already), need to teach PHYSICS (again), even if Science itself, has yet to be able to answer ALL the questions all the time.
Such would redeem at least having some Faith in hope in future generations, because at least they might realize then, that until such a time when Science "knows all" (because it doesn't), it is good (Not bad) to treat others decently, ethically and respectfully in the meantime!
Ironic that so many of your posts show a massive amount of disrespect.
Is it mandatory that believers be hypocritical?

“I Am No One Else”

Since: Apr 12

Seattle

#104966 May 28, 2013
ProvenScience wrote:
<quoted text>
If schools aren't "allowed" to incorporate decency, ethics, respect for and Of others in daily routines, schools (that don't already), need to teach PHYSICS (again), even if Science itself, has yet to be able to answer ALL the questions all the time.
Such would redeem at least having some Faith in hope in future generations, because at least they might realize then, that until such a time when Science "knows all" (because it doesn't), it is good (Not bad) to treat others decently, ethically and respectfully in the meantime!
Stoning people who disagree with you is decency? Stoning children for "bad mouthing" you is decency? You are an unethical person if you think that.
GWB

Roseville, CA

#104967 May 28, 2013
defender wrote:
<quoted text>
It was a simple question... Where did the intelligence for reproduction ( not life ) come from?
Bible approves of the raping of female children to produce offspring. The females who are not virgins are put to death. Why? Does your God approve of pedophiles?
Numbers 31:7-18

“Breaking the spell ”

Since: Dec 10

of the puppet master

#104969 May 28, 2013
defender wrote:
<quoted text>
Ok let me make it simple as possible.. There has to be somewhere in all that overwhelming evidence a clear intermediate... Perhaps a fossil of a rhino with it's horn in half development or a spices of bat with half developed wings as evolutionist claim mutated from it's fingers... Good luck...
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