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Bible study rules for public schools proposed

There are 152002 comments on the The Courier-Journal story from Feb 10, 2010, titled Bible study rules for public schools proposed. In it, The Courier-Journal reports that:

FRANKFORT, Ky. - The state would create rules for teaching about the Bible in public high schools under a bill filed Monday by three Democratic senators.

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“Breaking the spell ”

Since: Dec 10

of the puppet master

#104888 May 27, 2013
How stupid can you be wrote:
<quoted text>Not even close!
The 14th amendment was NOT to give perverts rights!
But yet they slipped in, and now slipping on down that slope!
Like I was proud our POTUS was a Black guy, and NOW
I'm ashamed for America, as he is FAR from Honest...
FAR from Righteous!
God is real, and judgment is right around the corner!
Repent! turn away from your sins!
Section 1. All persons born or naturalized in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States and of the State wherein they reside. No State shall make or enforce any law which shall abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the United States; nor shall any State deprive any person of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law; nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal protection of the laws.
Oxymoron

Glasgow, KY

#104889 May 27, 2013
Mike Duquette wrote:
<quoted text>Again, for species to change it takes a lot of changes. This takes time. Usually millions of years. Have we had millions of years to test? No.
According to Science humans haven't been here very long compared to all the other animals, it's odd to me that if Evolution is true, then why isn't there anything else on this planet flying around with Medal wings in a jet. There is definitely something different about the human race. To be as far advanced as we are from all the other animals on this planet and to be here the shortest amount of time should be enough to make one at least wonder about the existence of the Creator who was before anything that we know existed.

“Breaking the spell ”

Since: Dec 10

of the puppet master

#104890 May 27, 2013
curious wrote:
<quoted text>
If you,or evolutionists or Scientists wanted to know how to learn about God's existence,the answer is simple and you know where to find it.
All it takes is for one to be willing to look and follow the instructions
Clearly their is zero fragments of evidence of a god because you would surely offer it up if it existed.
Brainwashing is not evidence. Faith is not evidence. If it was, then every religion is true.
So True

United States

#104891 May 27, 2013
May I ask all of you, on here, r any of you women??
stuck in a lodi

Elkhorn City, KY

#104892 May 27, 2013
Mike Duquette wrote:
<quoted text>You failed to mention the charge. For all I know, he raped them by force or maybe that is what they claimed.
Their is a five year gap in your situation.
Your example does not prove my point wrong. Many states do make different ages for laws on sexual consent. Yes it is arbitrary, but you seem to think this arbitrary number is all that matters, not the person in which you are arguing against. He is using logic and reason, you are using the arbitrary number.
He was 19 and thus his brain was not fully developed as far as the science says.
Maybe he took a risk in the law, but was not your charge. You seem to be changing your argument as you get some facts thrown at you.
I was thinking, if the age of twenty is when the brain is fully formed, then maybe society should wait til twenty to make one a legal adult. No military until twenty. Most eighteen year old kids have no idea what they are getting into with the military, and I think the military preys upon their immature mind to trick them into signing up.
So what do you think about all that?
I've been gone for some time enjoying this long weekend with family and friends , so I'm not going to go back and refresh on the topic at hand.* I'm lazy * and a bit hung over. But good point on this age and military. I find it funny that one cannot buy himself an alcoholic beverage until the age of 21 but can join the armed forces at age 18. I for one think it should be changed. On this day, I would like to extend everyone who served and is still serving a big thanks!

“Breaking the spell ”

Since: Dec 10

of the puppet master

#104893 May 27, 2013
Oxymoron wrote:
<quoted text>
According to Science humans haven't been here very long compared to all the other animals, it's odd to me that if Evolution is true, then why isn't there anything else on this planet flying around with Medal wings in a jet. There is definitely something different about the human race. To be as far advanced as we are from all the other animals on this planet and to be here the shortest amount of time should be enough to make one at least wonder about the existence of the Creator who was before anything that we know existed.
Humans have large brain. Other than that, we are not very much different. That large brain can make for many differences though. But to assume it is magic, is just superstition.
Most all animals use a brain. We can see the brain dictates what the animal can do. Humans have a large one, so it is not surprising we can build planes.
Other animals do not need a large brain to survive. We have been here such a short time, it is not known yet if a large brain is so great for survival in the long run. Our brain might be our own demise. Our brains have devised the tools that could kill all humans, thus we could be extinct in a short period of time.

I understand it is hard to understand sometimes, but your idea of why we should assume a god is simply a reason a god was invented by mans imagination. It fills a gap of information, or at least it did at one time. The gaps are closing and I see the believers squirming to keep that information away from the young in order to keep the religion strong.

“Breaking the spell ”

Since: Dec 10

of the puppet master

#104894 May 27, 2013
How stupid can you be wrote:
<quoted text>God created the "Family" unit...
Man + Woman = child!
We target all sins equally...
You've heard me speak against KILLING Babies in/out of the womb!
It's just that the homosexual agenda is just as damning/damaging as Killing Babies in the womb... at least when the want to press their lifestyles on every other person in the world!
Adoption for gays... NO WAY!
You drag a child through a cesspool... they will come out
smelling like crap!
WRONG is WRONG, no matter how you spin it!
Again, if wrong is wrong, why do you only demand homosexuals not have the right to marry? Why not keep all people who are wrong from marrying?

Families were around long before your god was invented.

“Breaking the spell ”

Since: Dec 10

of the puppet master

#104895 May 27, 2013
stuck in a lodi wrote:
<quoted text>
I've been gone for some time enjoying this long weekend with family and friends , so I'm not going to go back and refresh on the topic at hand.* I'm lazy * and a bit hung over. But good point on this age and military. I find it funny that one cannot buy himself an alcoholic beverage until the age of 21 but can join the armed forces at age 18. I for one think it should be changed. On this day, I would like to extend everyone who served and is still serving a big thanks!
Thanks (I served). I also would like to give the others thanks.
Maybe we should make recruitment age 21. Give the brain time to mature and think in full maturity for a year.

You do not see many older people joining the military, and their is likely a reason why. I think it is due to them understanding it is not the best idea.
I doubt you will see congress make the age higher due to the fact their would be a massive shortage of volunteers due to my point.

“Breaking the spell ”

Since: Dec 10

of the puppet master

#104896 May 27, 2013
Section 1. All persons born or naturalized in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States and of the State wherein they reside. No State shall make or enforce any law which shall abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the United States; nor shall any State deprive any person of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law; nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal protection of the laws.
Ye of lil Understanding wrote:
<quoted text>They want "Special" rights...
So true

United States

#104897 May 27, 2013
There will always be many wanting to serve. Thank you mike for doing so.. Hugs

“Breaking the spell ”

Since: Dec 10

of the puppet master

#104898 May 27, 2013
Quantummist wrote:
<quoted text>
Actually I'm a bit more tolerant of a 18yo and a 16 years old that I might sound but The Point became important when the poster insisted that age was not the issue and development was... There are 12 and 13 year old's that are well developed... There are 8 yo's that have given birth... My Personnel view is that if you are 18 or older, walk away from anyone under 18 as fast as your feet can get to steppin... Don't flirt, don't hang out, don't be alone with... Your life can be destroyed before you realize what hit you....
And Never consider the development level of a Child when you formulate your world view on sexuality... Was being a bit over the top by design.....
So adults need to stay away from kids? Kind of paranoid about being accused, aren't you?
Check Bill Burr's take on this. Funny stuff.
http://www.youtube.com/watch...
curious

Winter Garden, FL

#104899 May 27, 2013
Mike Duquette wrote:
<quoted text>Clearly their is zero fragments of evidence of a god because you would surely offer it up if it existed.
Brainwashing is not evidence. Faith is not evidence. If it was, then every religion is true.
Clearly you Atheists claim there is no God,but you can't seem to get that which you claim doees not exist out of your minds.
I wonder why that is?
God is supernatural and one is unable to prove God's existence by natural means.
God proves himself to exist by revealing himself to those who diligently seek him.
Atheists and Science are unable to define , understand or duplicate that process .
To them,it is magic,superstition,nonsense...
But,they are forming opinions on something that is way beyond their limited understanding and which they know nothing about.
That may well be the reason they cannot get God out of their mind.
They know they don't understand and are trying to figure out why that Is?
That doubt seems to force them to keep looking,hoping...
I see that as a positive sign,given God's desire that none be lost and as Jesus said,when asked ,Who could be saved? What is impossible to man ,is possible to God...

“Breaking the spell ”

Since: Dec 10

of the puppet master

#104900 May 27, 2013
curious wrote:
<quoted text>
Clearly you Atheists claim there is no God,but you can't seem to get that which you claim doees not exist out of your minds.
I wonder why that is?
God is supernatural and one is unable to prove God's existence by natural means.
God proves himself to exist by revealing himself to those who diligently seek him.
Atheists and Science are unable to define , understand or duplicate that process .
To them,it is magic,superstition,nonsense...
But,they are forming opinions on something that is way beyond their limited understanding and which they know nothing about.
That may well be the reason they cannot get God out of their mind.
They know they don't understand and are trying to figure out why that Is?
That doubt seems to force them to keep looking,hoping...
I see that as a positive sign,given God's desire that none be lost and as Jesus said,when asked ,Who could be saved? What is impossible to man ,is possible to God...
You are asking a question I have answered many times over. And just yesterday you claimed searching for god was not natural. Make up your mind.
I give many reasons for why I post here, and you accept none of them.
The feelings you get when you think you are hearing or feeling god has been replicated by most every religion invented. Are they all real?
I and science can explain why you have these feelings, so I am not actually asking you why, I am telling you why. You just refuse to believe you are brainwashed. You think 'thoughts' are a god speaking. I know better, you and all others who follow all other religions do not know better. You confuse thoughts with magic. You confuse imagination with magic. You claim what you imagine is reality.
curious

Winter Garden, FL

#104901 May 27, 2013
Mike Duquette wrote:
<quoted text>You are asking a question I have answered many times over. And just yesterday you claimed searching for god was not natural. Make up your mind.
I give many reasons for why I post here, and you accept none of them.
The feelings you get when you think you are hearing or feeling god has been replicated by most every religion invented. Are they all real?
I and science can explain why you have these feelings, so I am not actually asking you why, I am telling you why. You just refuse to believe you are brainwashed. You think 'thoughts' are a god speaking. I know better, you and all others who follow all other religions do not know better. You confuse thoughts with magic. You confuse imagination with magic. You claim what you imagine is reality.
Yes,you and science seek to explain that which you have never experienced,therefore your expertise and that of science is null and void.
Your ignorance and arrogance has led you to conclude that you sre better qualified to understand what I have experinced than I am.
Your misguided search for truth has led you into a foolish and delusional frame of mind and we knew that would happen.
Buit,don't give up the search,if you keep seeking,I believe you will find...It is not too late.....

“Breaking the spell ”

Since: Dec 10

of the puppet master

#104902 May 27, 2013
curious wrote:
<quoted text>
ral and one is unable to prove God's existence by natural means.
God proves himself to exist by revealing himself to those who diligently seek him.
..
And no matter what god that is, the person actually wanting that god will find that god. Thus that god might just be his wishes and imagination.
This is why Muslims families produce those that find Islam. Hindu families.......
defender

London, KY

#104903 May 27, 2013
_Ummm_ wrote:
Yes, that is a wholly appropriate and useful reply that refutes everything I've said.

Here is the only "logic" that arrives at "ID":
1. I believe in a God (as described in some bronze age scribblings).
2. I think evolution goes against the God I believe in.
3. Therefore, I think evolution must be wrong, and God must have intelligently designed it all.

What an idiot. Biff... why don't you make like a tree and get out of here. Unless you can actually demonstrate a valid logical path from all evidence to "ID", you have nothing useful to say here. Do note that what I said has NOTHING to do with all the crap you think you can argue against evolution with. Prove your position, don't try to disprove anything else or you fail.
Why do you people always wish to create debating rules? No one can win this argument... I stated that complex living systems cannot come to be without design much less millions of them dependent on others to survive...
You or anyone cannot explain how random chaos can accomplish this... So just get pissed and sling insults... It's your only defense... Sad really...
defender

London, KY

#104904 May 27, 2013
Ummmmmmmm wrote:
<quoted text>It looks like you can't defend your argument without attacking the person you debate instead of attacking his argument.
Is that how the "real debaters" on Topix do it?
Just get mad and call him an idiot. You win.
Thank you...

“Question, Explore, Discover”

Since: Dec 11

Location hidden

#104905 May 27, 2013
Quantummist wrote:
<quoted text>
His Point was Not Accurate and his insistence on his variation of term is of no more import as my variation of term.. His view and surprisingly your support of his view that age is of no import and that perceived development is the important part is the mindset of a past or future child molester...
"In popular usage, pedophilia means any sexual interest in children or the act of child sexual abuse, often termed "pedophilic behavior". For example, The American Heritage Stedman's Medical Dictionary states, "Pedophilia is the act or fantasy on the part of an adult of engaging in sexual activity with a child or children." This common use application also extends to the sexual interest in and sexual contact with pubescent or post-pubescent minors. Researchers recommend that these imprecise uses be avoided because although people who commit child sexual abuse commonly exhibit the disorder, some offenders do not meet the clinical diagnosis standards for pedophilia and these standards pertain to prepubescents.[10][14][15] Additionally, not all pedophiles actually commit such abuse. "
Rationalizing a Child is good to go if are "Developed" is disgusting whether it be by a Priest, Mormon or self proclaimed intellectual...
Nobody was rationalizing anything. You are ignoring reality and being a dictionary pedant.

It is obvious you can't handle being schooled.
defender

London, KY

#104906 May 27, 2013
How stupid can you be wrote:
<quoted text>Great post!
Very logical, and astute!
124^10th Against the proteins coming together to make DNA in the first place... seems they forget their own scale for scientific impossibilities!
Thank you... I can't seem to get anyone of them to answer these questions...Wonder why?

“Question, Explore, Discover”

Since: Dec 11

Location hidden

#104907 May 27, 2013
Mike Duquette wrote:
<quoted text>Humans have large brain. Other than that, we are not very much different. That large brain can make for many differences though. But to assume it is magic, is just superstition.
Most all animals use a brain. We can see the brain dictates what the animal can do. Humans have a large one, so it is not surprising we can build planes.
Other animals do not need a large brain to survive. We have been here such a short time, it is not known yet if a large brain is so great for survival in the long run. Our brain might be our own demise. Our brains have devised the tools that could kill all humans, thus we could be extinct in a short period of time.
I understand it is hard to understand sometimes, but your idea of why we should assume a god is simply a reason a god was invented by mans imagination. It fills a gap of information, or at least it did at one time. The gaps are closing and I see the believers squirming to keep that information away from the young in order to keep the religion strong.
I would add that developments in species, such as wings, ARE as amazing as humans flying around in jets. There are insects that subjugate other insects to do work for them. There are lots of things that nature has produces by trial and error.

It is hard for us to see past our own biases. We clearly are intellectually amazing, as animals go, but our time here has been short. Who knows what will come later with or without us?

It is pretty fascinating to ponder.

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