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Bible study rules for public schools proposed

There are 147236 comments on the The Courier-Journal story from Feb 10, 2010, titled Bible study rules for public schools proposed. In it, The Courier-Journal reports that:

FRANKFORT, Ky. - The state would create rules for teaching about the Bible in public high schools under a bill filed Monday by three Democratic senators.

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“See how you are?”

Since: Jul 12

Earth

#103746 May 16, 2013
curious wrote:
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I believe that this insatiable desire that you Atheists have,constantly making God a topic of conversation and constantly addressing the subject of faith,as if in search of something..
You may find the answer to your insatiable inquisitiveness by reading the findings of Sigmund Freud
Freud was an atheist, perhaps you meant Jung? If you are going to cite a field of science, be it psychology, sociology, biology, geology, physics, etc., it would behoove you to read a book that has credible contributors - and one that was written within the last 1600 years.

“See how you are?”

Since: Jul 12

Earth

#103747 May 16, 2013
curious wrote:
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The intellectual content of what you posted,can possibly be measured with a nano gauge.
I do not base my realizations on the opinions of Atheists.
If Atheists consider me stupid and hypocritical,based on the source,I consider that to be a great compliment.
To lend any credibility to any opinions given by those whom I would not trust to mow my lawm,would be absurd,Wouldn't you Agree?
Too verbose.
curious wrote:
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Atheists consider me stupid and hypocritical,based on the source,
Much better.
curious

Ocoee, FL

#103748 May 16, 2013
Mike Duquette wrote:
<quoted text>We tell you constantly why we oppose blind belief. One reason is the demeaning attitude towards science it clearly creates.
I cannot prove god is a myth, no more than you can prove Zeus is a myth.
How or why the big bang went down as it did have no bearing on my atheism. For some reason it seems to have a bearing on your faith though.
But for some reason, how and why god came to be has no bearing on your faith. The contradiction is curious to me.
I have not asked,nor do I need ,for you to tell me about blind belief. I am not afflicted by it,YOU ARE
Well,I would not call it blind,the appropriate word would be FOOLISH
I don't believe zeus ever existed,therefore I do not waste my time talking about something I do not believe in,,unlike you and the other Atheists....
If,I were constantly challenging Zeus existence,given that I do not believe he ever existed,could lead to some people questioing my sanity, or concluding as Freud did,that my subconscious is sending me a message
curious

Ocoee, FL

#103749 May 16, 2013
kuda wrote:
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The point is that I asked you,“Why talk in puzzles?”
What are you puzzled by?
kuda

Cincinnati, OH

#103750 May 16, 2013
curious wrote:
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What are you puzzled by?
Circumlocutious speech.

The meaning of vague statements like “god is the answer.”

Why you avoid my question.

Those sorts of things.

Your opportunities abound as I have given generously.
kuda

Cincinnati, OH

#103751 May 16, 2013
Mike Duquette wrote:
<quoted text>I am so scared if the imaginary god(devil).
I also look under my bed for monsters before I go to sleep.
I knock on wood because I am superstitious of the gods that lived in the trees.
You're a brazen heathen who knows no shame. I suppose you also have a history of removing the labels from pillows or go swimming with reckless abandon without waiting a full hour after eating.

“I Am No One Else”

Since: Apr 12

Seattle

#103752 May 16, 2013
curious wrote:
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I believe that this insatiable desire that you Atheists have,constantly making God a topic of conversation and constantly addressing the subject of faith,as if in search of something..
You may find the answer to your insatiable inquisitiveness by reading the findings of Sigmund Freud
You are boringly repetitive.

“pervinco per logica”

Since: Feb 12

Eradicate willful ignorance.

#103753 May 16, 2013
curious wrote:
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I have not asked,nor do I need ,for you to tell me about blind belief. I am not afflicted by it,YOU ARE
Well,I would not call it blind,the appropriate word would be FOOLISH
Yes, blah blah blah. I know you are, but what am I.

You believe in things that have absolutely no evidence to support them; the people you are arguing with do not. That is completely factual and nothing further can be said on the topic. Every time you try to say something to the contrary, you lie.
curious wrote:
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I don't believe zeus ever existed,therefore I do not waste my time talking about something I do not believe in,,unlike you and the other Atheists....
If,I were constantly challenging Zeus existence,given that I do not believe he ever existed,could lead to some people questioing my sanity, or concluding as Freud did,that my subconscious is sending me a message
No, stupid. If there was a veritable army of morons telling everyone that, seriously, Zeus is the only way and saying that Zeus should be taught in school (as fact), you'd be up in arms. We'd never hear the end of it. THAT is an apt comparison. Not your bullsh!t. Science, freedom from religion, and freedom of thought are completely under assault by militant Christians in this country. We, and a large part of the rest of the world, are disgusted by it all.

So, please, drop the weak "your mind is telling you something" or "you're crazy" crap. Every scientifically minded person is completely right to fight the propagation of your completely unsubstantiated claims and parasitic/oppressive religions.
kuda wrote:
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You're a brazen heathen who knows no shame. I suppose you also have a history of removing the labels from pillows or go swimming with reckless abandon without waiting a full hour after eating.
LOL
Thanks, that was enjoyable.

“Speaker of Mountain Wisdom....”

Since: Jan 10

Somerset, KY

#103754 May 16, 2013
KittenKoder wrote:
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Fetus and child are two different classifications.
So all the people arrested, prosecuted and Jailed for Homicide for killing a fetus should be released from jail and given new trials for simple assault with bodily harm to the mothers right?

“I Am No One Else”

Since: Apr 12

Seattle

#103755 May 16, 2013
Quantummist wrote:
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So all the people arrested, prosecuted and Jailed for Homicide for killing a fetus should be released from jail and given new trials for simple assault with bodily harm to the mothers right?
The mother's wishes are what those rulings are based on, not whether it was a fetus or child.

“Speaker of Mountain Wisdom....”

Since: Jan 10

Somerset, KY

#103756 May 16, 2013
KittenKoder wrote:
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The mother's wishes are what those rulings are based on, not whether it was a fetus or child.
So Homicide is ok as long as the one contracting for the homicide says so?
curious

Ocoee, FL

#103757 May 16, 2013
kuda wrote:
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Circumlocutious speech.
The meaning of vague statements like “god is the answer.”
Why you avoid my question.
Those sorts of things.
Your opportunities abound as I have given generously.
When one expresses himself in explicit terms,the responses one receives are indicative as to whether you were correctly understood.
The responses on this website,specifically those of the Atheists and so called ,former believers,has left no doubt in my mind,that they are totally misinformed and are unequipped to understand the topics that I address.
Their non related answers speak volumes.
They keep regurgitating the same canned propaganda,keep asking for the same evidence and keep complaining once they get it
So,it matters not how they are addressed,they will not understand.
Now,that I know of,you have seldom responded to anything I posted,under the name KUDA,other than today...
And keep in mind,many times ,Ichoose not to respond.....
Continuously responding to the same repetitive gibberish and nonsense often espoused here gets rather stale and boring...
curious

Ocoee, FL

#103759 May 16, 2013
_Ummm_ wrote:
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Yes, blah blah blah. I know you are, but what am I.
You believe in things that have absolutely no evidence to support them; the people you are arguing with do not. That is completely factual and nothing further can be said on the topic. Every time you try to say something to the contrary, you lie.
<quoted text>
No, stupid. If there was a veritable army of morons telling everyone that, seriously, Zeus is the only way and saying that Zeus should be taught in school (as fact), you'd be up in arms. We'd never hear the end of it. THAT is an apt comparison. Not your bullsh!t. Science, freedom from religion, and freedom of thought are completely under assault by militant Christians in this country. We, and a large part of the rest of the world, are disgusted by it all.
So, please, drop the weak "your mind is telling you something" or "you're crazy" crap. Every scientifically minded person is completely right to fight the propagation of your completely unsubstantiated claims and parasitic/oppressive religions.
<quoted text>
LOL
Thanks, that was enjoyable.
Just as our Lord did not forbid us from discerning the character of fools, the Book of Proverbs commends this assessment as a necessity for those who would be wise. Several reasons are given for the need to discern between those who are fools and those who are wise.

1. TO ASSOCIATE WITH FOOLS IS BOTH UNWISE AND UNPLEASANT. To some degree folly is contagious, and association with a fool tends to diminish our ability to discern truth from error and wisdom from folly.

Leave the presence of a fool, Or you will not discern words of knowledge (14:7).

He cuts off his own feet, and drinks violence Who sends a message by the hand of a fool (26:6).

Proverbs offers hope to parents that foolishness can be cured if detected early and disciplined diligently.

4. FOOLS MUST BE DEALT WITH DIFFERENTLY THAN THOSE WHO ARE WISE. We cannot deal with all men in the same way. Our response to people must be based on the kind of character they have demonstrated.

He who corrects a scoffer gets dishonor for himself, And he who reproves a wicked man gets insults for himself. Do not reprove a scoffer, lest he hate you, Reprove a wise man, and he will love you (9:7-8).

Do not answer a fool according to his folly, Lest you also be like him. Answer a fool as his folly deserves, Lest he be wise in his own eyes (26:4-5).

These considerations necessitate discerning the character of others and, in particular, that of a fool. Not only will we be able to see foolishness in others as a result of our study in Proverbs, we will also see a greater measure of it in ourselves. May God enable us to be honest with ourselves, to confess our foolishness, 2 and to forsake it as sinful and destructive, both to ourselves and to others.

Characteristics of A Fool
It is much easier to identify a fool in terms of what he is not than in terms of what he is. Notice the following characteristics of the fool as the Book of Proverbs describes him.

1. THE FOOL IS UNRIGHTEOUS. The fool hates what is holy, righteous, and good, and he loves evil.

Desire realized is sweet to the soul, But it is an abomination to fools to depart from evil (13:19).

Doing wickedness is like sport to a fool; And so is wisdom to a man of understanding (10:23).

Fools mock at sin, But among the upright there is good will (14:9).

2. THE FOOL IS UNWISE. Throughout Proverbs the fool is the counterpart of the wise. Wisdom is contrasted with folly. The fool does not possess wisdom, cannot obtain wisdom, and would not obtain it if he could.

THE FOOL DOES NOT POSSESS WISDOM;

“See how you are?”

Since: Jul 12

Earth

#103761 May 16, 2013
curious wrote:
<quoted text>
Just as our Lord did not forbid us from discerning the character of fools, the Book of Proverbs commends this assessment as a necessity for those who would be wise. Several reasons are given for the need to discern between those who are fools and those who are wise.
1. TO ASSOCIATE WITH FOOLS IS BOTH UNWISE AND UNPLEASANT. To some degree folly is contagious, and association with a fool tends to diminish our ability to discern truth from error and wisdom from folly.
Leave the presence of a fool, Or you will not discern words of knowledge (14:7).
He cuts off his own feet, and drinks violence Who sends a message by the hand of a fool (26:6).
Proverbs offers hope to parents that foolishness can be cured if detected early and disciplined diligently.
4. FOOLS MUST BE DEALT WITH DIFFERENTLY THAN THOSE WHO ARE WISE. We cannot deal with all men in the same way. Our response to people must be based on the kind of character they have demonstrated.
He who corrects a scoffer gets dishonor for himself, And he who reproves a wicked man gets insults for himself. Do not reprove a scoffer, lest he hate you, Reprove a wise man, and he will love you (9:7-8).
Do not answer a fool according to his folly, Lest you also be like him. Answer a fool as his folly deserves, Lest he be wise in his own eyes (26:4-5).
These considerations necessitate discerning the character of others and, in particular, that of a fool. Not only will we be able to see foolishness in others as a result of our study in Proverbs, we will also see a greater measure of it in ourselves. May God enable us to be honest with ourselves, to confess our foolishness, 2 and to forsake it as sinful and destructive, both to ourselves and to others.
Characteristics of A Fool
It is much easier to identify a fool in terms of what he is not than in terms of what he is. Notice the following characteristics of the fool as the Book of Proverbs describes him.
1. THE FOOL IS UNRIGHTEOUS. The fool hates what is holy, righteous, and good, and he loves evil.
Desire realized is sweet to the soul, But it is an abomination to fools to depart from evil (13:19).
Doing wickedness is like sport to a fool; And so is wisdom to a man of understanding (10:23).
Fools mock at sin, But among the upright there is good will (14:9).
2. THE FOOL IS UNWISE. Throughout Proverbs the fool is the counterpart of the wise. Wisdom is contrasted with folly. The fool does not possess wisdom, cannot obtain wisdom, and would not obtain it if he could.
THE FOOL DOES NOT POSSESS WISDOM;
idjit.
curious

Ocoee, FL

#103762 May 16, 2013
KittenKoder wrote:
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You are boringly repetitive.
Gee,The Atheists find me boring,stupid and Moronic.
Still in all,they keep asking me the same question,knowing I will provide the same answer, They ask the same question again,I provide them with the same answer again...
They keep going around in circles,,,,Like they are either missing something, and are trying to find it or, they found something they are unable to understand.

Maybe if you could identify what your mind may be telling you to look for,you would know what it is,once you found it.
The fact that,you keep seeking diligently,is a good sign.
Seek and YE shall find....

“Speaker of Mountain Wisdom....”

Since: Jan 10

Somerset, KY

#103763 May 16, 2013
ChromiuMan wrote:
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Gasp... Gravity DOES exist!
That's not it... I'm waiting for someone to notice what the image captured.... It's like looking for Waldo.....

“See how you are?”

Since: Jul 12

Earth

#103764 May 16, 2013
Quantummist wrote:
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That's not it... I'm waiting for someone to notice what the image captured.... It's like looking for Waldo.....
Gasp... Uncle Si DOES exist, Jack!

“pervinco per logica”

Since: Feb 12

Eradicate willful ignorance.

#103765 May 16, 2013
curious wrote:
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Just as our Lord did not forbid us from discerning the character of fools, the Book of Proverbs commends this assessment as a necessity for those who would be wise. Several reasons are given for the need to discern between those who are fools and those who are wise.

blah blah blah i let the bible think for me
Holy crap are you ever willfully ignorant. And that's OK, I get it. I can totally see how that happened. What I don't get is how you think you can act like you're better than others who aren't ignorant, and even demean them. It's a total mystery. Because based both on your level of knowledge and the book you claim to be truth, you are not supposed to be doing this.
curious wrote:
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Gee,The Atheists find me boring,stupid and Moronic.
Still in all,they keep asking me the same question,knowing I will provide the same answer, They ask the same question again,I provide them with the same answer again...
Nobody knows that you will provide the same answer. People are giving you the benefit of the doubt. They are rooting for you. They want you to stop being a moronic waste of life and actually say something different.
curious wrote:
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They keep going around in circles,,,,Like they are either missing something, and are trying to find it or, they found something they are unable to understand.
Yet you forgot to list the most likely possibility (and, indeed, reality) that it is you who are missing something. Like what "evidence" means. What "proof" means. How to use a comma (or, rather, not use three times too many of them). That people who reject your claims about the God that you are completely obsessed with are NOT being tricked by their brain or anything supernatural. That you can't claim things are miracles when there are dozens of entirely possible and logical explanations that don't require making up supernatural crap. et cetera
curious wrote:
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Maybe if you could identify what your mind may be telling you to look for,you would know what it is,once you found it.
The fact that,you keep seeking diligently,is a good sign.
Seek and YE shall find....
Maybe if you could identify why your mind is lusting after naked hairy fat men, you would know what it is, once you found it.

See? It's not nice when people pretend that you are doing things that you aren't, is it? And it's irritating to read something that is so linguistically broken and devoid of true meaning, isn't it? So why don't you stop doing those things constantly?

“I Am No One Else”

Since: Apr 12

Seattle

#103766 May 16, 2013
Quantummist wrote:
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So Homicide is ok as long as the one contracting for the homicide says so?
Technically, yes in some cases. It is not murder unless there is a law against it, and the subject is human, which fetuses do not count as, or the owner of that organism prosecutes. That's the law, if you don't like it you have to avoid living in a society.
kuda

Cincinnati, OH

#103767 May 16, 2013
Here’re some questions for creationists to address. I suspect opinions may vary, which will make it interesting to discuss. By creationists, I mean people who believe there is a god and that this god directly created at least the Earth and everything on Earth, a living planet. This belief is now way to explain where we came from. Now, the questions:

1. Where did god come from?

2. Did god mainly kickstart us to get the ball rolling or does he directly intervene moment by moment as micromanager?

3. Can you influence god’s decisions by praying?

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