Bible study rules for public schools proposed

Feb 10, 2010 Full story: The Courier-Journal 131,966

FRANKFORT, Ky. - The state would create rules for teaching about the Bible in public high schools under a bill filed Monday by three Democratic senators.

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stinky toe cheese

Hindman, KY

#103222 May 11, 2013
KittenKoder wrote:
<quoted text>
Still zero evidence supporting this "spirit" thing, I mean, that's if you could even find two people who agree on what the "spirit" is and offer up one solid definition of it.
At 3 AM when the it's dark,,,, do you still believe a sun exixsts....? You can't see it. If you throw 5000 BB's in your front yard,,,, and you find 4999,,,, does the 1 not exist? Someone made a comment about faith and the 9/11 attack,,, I won't compare that to what I believe. I'll simply say I serve a god that could have save each soul involved.
curious

Ocoee, FL

#103223 May 11, 2013
Mike Duquette wrote:
<quoted text>I do not expect you to listen to us about how the human mind works, as you and most devout Christians demean science. You can look up the science for yourself if you do not believe us, but of course you likely know the science is in line with our claims and not yours. But you dodge this by claiming we are ignorant of the science.
You drink the cool aid and thus feel the cool aid. Every religious belief has the same effect, yet for some reason every religion is ignorant of this effect from other beliefs.For some reason you think that your feelings are of a real god and theirs is not.
The evidence is in the logic. I am showing sound logic and you are not.
None of this really needs a scientific study, as the logic is overwhelming.
How do I know the logic is good? Because when I make claims as I did here, you have no logical response to them. You just whine as you did here.
1) I do not expect you to listen to us about how the human mind works, as you and most devout Christians demean science.

I don't demean science,but,I do highly question their theories,especially when it comes to evolution ,the creation of the universe and how life and intelligence came into being.
The latter two,they have absolutely no idea as to how life and intelligence were made..
And it is on that nonexistent foundation that Science and Evolutionists build their theories.
You know what they say,if your foundation is based on nothing,you can not build on it,for there is nothing there to support it.

2) You can look up the science for yourself if you do not believe us, but of course you likely know the science is in line with our claims and not yours. But you dodge this by claiming we are ignorant of the science.


According to your science or logic,you all concluded that,my mind had deceived me,that time was irrelevant and some other nonsense that I do not recall.
In essence,your simplistic analysis was based on one thing only,since you do not believe in God,then,something else had to be responsible for answering my prayers
And in the process,you all were grasping for straws.
You did not experience what I did,nor did you understand the events that led to my prayers being answered.
In spite of all that,all of you felt qualified to explain what had occurred.
And all I wanted to know is,What are your qualifications?

3)You drink the cool aid and thus feel the cool aid. Every religious belief has the same effect, yet for some reason every religion is ignorant of this effect from other beliefs.

Not all religious beliefs use the same criteria in order to determine whether God exists or not.
The criteria I used is contained in the Bible. I followed the instructions and I received the results as God had promised,therefore,it was tried,tested and found to be true.. That is something that unbelievers are unable to accept. The fact that you are unable to accept that,in no way,invalidates my findings.

4) For some reason you think that your feelings are of a real god and theirs is not.
The evidence is in the logic. I am showing sound logic and you are not.
None of this really needs a scientific study, as the logic is overwhelming.
How do I know the logic is good? Because when I make claims as I did here, you have no logical response to them. You just whine as you did here.

How do I know your logic is faulty?
By using your logic,you have concluded that God does not exist.
Those who are trained in logic will tell you that logic can neither prove or disprove the existence of God.
Where is this"overwhelming Logic"?
I do not see it and you did not provide it
I just gave you a logical response
As a matter of fact,in your other posting,you emquired about Deut 13;6-10 and asked me to give you an explanation,which I told you could find in Deuteronomy12
And anytime you have a question,feel free to ask,I will do all I can to help you

“I Am No One Else”

Since: Apr 12

Seattle

#103224 May 11, 2013
stinky toe cheese wrote:
<quoted text>
At 3 AM when the it's dark,,,, do you still believe a sun exixsts....? You can't see it. If you throw 5000 BB's in your front yard,,,, and you find 4999,,,, does the 1 not exist? Someone made a comment about faith and the 9/11 attack,,, I won't compare that to what I believe. I'll simply say I serve a god that could have save each soul involved.
Yes, but I have seen the sun, still see no "spirit." You have zero evidence that there is such a thing as "spirit" or "soul," just made up fantasies.
curious

Ocoee, FL

#103225 May 11, 2013
KittenKoder wrote:
<quoted text>
Yes, but I have seen the sun, still see no "spirit." You have zero evidence that there is such a thing as "spirit" or "soul," just made up fantasies.
To those who do not want to believe, God is not real and nothing is possible.

“I Am No One Else”

Since: Apr 12

Seattle

#103226 May 11, 2013
curious wrote:
<quoted text>
To those who do not want to believe, God is not real and nothing is possible.
This is true, but that does not make god real anymore than soap opera characters are real to those who believe they are.
curious

Ocoee, FL

#103227 May 11, 2013
KittenKoder wrote:
<quoted text>
This is true, but that does not make god real anymore than soap opera characters are real to those who believe they are.
I guess the analogy can be made that,some people can be deceived into believing that something that is not true ,is
And that something that is true,isn't

But ,we are not deceived. We have tested the truth and God has responded, according to his promises.
wow

Evansville, IN

#103228 May 11, 2013
Sue wrote:
Our school was founded on beliefs of the bible. Schools began in churches. How could it be wrong to teach morals? To me, it's unconstitutional to not teach what our founding fathers believed so much in.
wow. everything you said is so wrong on so many levels. all of our founding fathers saw religion as detrimental to society, which it is. but this is kentucky after all. not a lot of intelligence floating around.

“I Am No One Else”

Since: Apr 12

Seattle

#103229 May 11, 2013
curious wrote:
<quoted text>
I guess the analogy can be made that,some people can be deceived into believing that something that is not true ,is
And that something that is true,isn't
But ,we are not deceived. We have tested the truth and God has responded, according to his promises.
Yes, you have been deceived by the people who told you that their god was real.

“There is no god.”

Since: Jan 12

USA

#103230 May 11, 2013
Love is blind.....god is love.....stevie wonder is blind.....coincidence?
Just saying.
When you believe in things that you don't understand,
Then you suffer,
Superstition ain't the way.

“I Am No One Else”

Since: Apr 12

Seattle

#103231 May 11, 2013
LOL in a suit wrote:
Love is blind.....god is love.....stevie wonder is blind.....coincidence?
Just saying.
When you believe in things that you don't understand,
Then you suffer,
Superstition ain't the way.
Well now, I could agree with Stevie Wonder being god, I would not argue that one.

“Question, Explore, Discover”

Since: Dec 11

Location hidden

#103233 May 12, 2013
curious wrote:
<quoted text>
I don't demean science,but,I do highly question their theories,especially when it comes to evolution ,the creation of the universe and how life and intelligence came into being.
The latter two,they have absolutely no idea as to how life and intelligence were made..
And it is on that nonexistent foundation that Science and Evolutionists build their theories.
You know what they say,if your foundation is based on nothing,you can not build on it,for there is nothing there to support it.
Why do you think you reject those particular ideas in science? Do you accept Einstein's ideas about physics? What about quantum physics? Because those theories are deeply troubling to the idea of a god. When you can explain how matter behaves right down to levels so tiny, so minute we can barely even say anything about them then where exactly does god live and work? Is he just a clockmaker that set things into motion then stepped back...tick-tock? Is he a tinkerer, dabbling in physics? If so, why haven't we detected his hand at work? Our natural explanations seem to be adequate to explain what we see. Is god actively hiding from us? Why?

You don't fixate on these problems because you probably don't understand them very well. You fixate on ideas such as evolution because there is a long history and literature in the Creationist movement against evolution. It is the evil that you know.

You don't seem to understand science at all. For example, you seem to think that if science does not have a firm answer on a topic it somehow means science is broken or scientists are lying. And you obviously feel like this is somehow evidence of god (I've never understood that leap of logic).

You are, in fact, profoundly anti-science. All your posts are this way. You reject even the most basic concepts of logic, reason, and statistical probabilities the moment someone points out how they contradict something you believe on faith. You are a magical thinker.

So do not pay lip service to science while stabbing at it like a wild man with stories of lost dogs.
So sad

Columbia, KY

#103234 May 12, 2013
concerned wrote:
The danger in teaching the Bible is that this book has the power to create faith even in an atheist. If it is allowed to be taught there is a strong possibility someone could be converted to Jesus Christ. Under the current world views is it possible to allow such a powerful tool for good to be taught in public schools and that before the young minds of the future?
so sad that we have to a decision about prayer in school! It should be allowed!
How stupid can you be

Mount Sterling, KY

#103235 May 12, 2013
KittenKoder wrote:
<quoted text>
I said mass murder and genocide are wrong.
Yet you say
Abortion is A-Ok!
Here's a clue for you...
Wrong is Wrong!
Yes and Amen

Mount Sterling, KY

#103236 May 12, 2013
KittenisaFRAIDYCAT wrote:
<quoted text>
So killing one at a time is ok, just not in mass numbers?
You didn't answer the question, Fraidy Cat.
Do you think capital punishment is wrong? Why are you scared to just answer a question?
There is a distinction between
Murder, and Killing!
Law says, If you do this, you will be put to death...
So doing it, you get what was expected!
War, you go against an army, knowing you might not come home!
Babies, sucking their thumbs in the womb, to have a so called Dr. yank you out, cut your brain stem with scissors...
That's Murder most Foul!
Yes and Amen

Mount Sterling, KY

#103237 May 12, 2013
KittenKoder wrote:
<quoted text>
Speaking of Noah, I didn't even get into the incest and how many times the bible endorses that. Or how the god denies justice based on deeds and only prefers those who are gullible. I mean, anyone asserting that the bible is somehow a source of "good" morals should be jailed simply out of caution.
That WILL come to pass... Just as that "Bible" said it would!
It speaks of every one of you...
Go figure!
Yes and Amen

Mount Sterling, KY

#103238 May 12, 2013
Mike Duquette wrote:
<quoted text>on what basis do you think Mohammed is a false prophet?
Do you know what "infinite regress" means?
Funny you mention it...
In the Beginning, he was a "Good" prophet, BUT, even he said he might have been led astray by satan....
Thus all the beheadings, and brutalities we have today from
The Religion of Peace!
Hahahahahahaha!
So true

United States

#103239 May 12, 2013
Happy Mothers Day to all the awesome mothers out there.. God blessed us all with mothers... You all have a good one !!!
Yes and Amen

Mount Sterling, KY

#103240 May 12, 2013
MaryAnn wrote:
<quoted text>curious you do realize you are not supposed to argue over the Scriptures. The Bible says if they will not hear you to shake the dust off your feet and go on. This constant bickering with these infidels and giving them more opportunity to blaspheme God is wrong. You need to quit. Same goes for others that do this.
You are correct!
Just as in the days of Noah... They were warned...
But even they had until the door was shut!
I have no doubt, that a good chunk of these people
would deny Christ until His coming, and then....
If just one of these people repents, that is my prayer!
God Bless you :-)
Yes and Amen

Mount Sterling, KY

#103241 May 12, 2013
So true wrote:
Happy Mothers Day to all the awesome mothers out there.. God blessed us all with mothers... You all have a good one !!!
I concur! God Bless All the Mothers!
Amen!
Yes and Amen

Mount Sterling, KY

#103242 May 12, 2013
Big Truck wrote:
If they allow the Bible. they have to allow the Koran and/or any other religious "texts." Be careful what you wish for...
To know one God Loves you, and wants you with Him, and
another god wants you to blow up school busses, and cut off heads?
Teach it all!

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