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Bible study rules for public schools proposed

There are 138106 comments on the The Courier-Journal story from Feb 10, 2010, titled Bible study rules for public schools proposed. In it, The Courier-Journal reports that:

FRANKFORT, Ky. - The state would create rules for teaching about the Bible in public high schools under a bill filed Monday by three Democratic senators.

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“Question, Explore, Discover”

Since: Dec 11

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#102810 May 7, 2013
do whut wrote:
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In this case, like it or not, science cannot tell us what happens after death. All it can say is that brain activity stops. So the claims that Jesus made cannot be tested until after you die. If I am right, couldn't you imagine the reactions of all those that suddenly realize they were wrong about there being no afterlife? If I'm wrong, there will be no one there telling me "I tried to tell you".
Anyway, I do not discount what science can tell us or provide for us, but in this case, it remains silent.
A little be hedging, some Pascal's Wager?

I disagree. I think science can tell us what happens after death exactly the same way it tells us lots of other things. By evidence.

The evidence: nothing happens to you after death. You die, end of story.

Now...your body has a big ole time for a short spell, that's for sure. Lots of biological activities with your dead tissue. But you, as a person, are gone. All that remains are the memories of others and the things you left behind.

And that's got to be good enough.

If there was some kind of post-death activity of consciousness science could, in theory, detect it. So far, not a peep.

Now that dose not mean it won't some day detect something. Nobody can predict that. But as it stands, nothing. No ghosts, no goblins, no spirits, no gods, no demons, no afterlife, no heaven, no hell, no Zenu, and no Colob.

“Question, Explore, Discover”

Since: Dec 11

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#102811 May 7, 2013
do whut wrote:
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Simplified:
What triggered the event that began everything that we see today?(Big bang if you like)
This infinite regress of questions has no end. Even if someone could definitively answer you on every one of them you could just keep moving the goalpost back a notch.

Meanwhile you believe that a magic man lives in the clouds and that you will one day have a planet of your own.

I don't see how you think this line of debate gains you anything.

“I Am No One Else”

Since: Apr 12

Seattle

#102812 May 7, 2013
ROFL wrote:
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Are you calling Wiki a source of valid "facts"?
LOL
Yes, and YouTube is the place to go for scientific research.
http://www.youtube.com/user/UCBerkeley

“Question, Explore, Discover”

Since: Dec 11

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#102813 May 7, 2013
ROFL wrote:
<quoted text>
Are you calling Wiki a source of valid "facts"?
LOL
Yes, and YouTube is the place to go for scientific research.
You do understand what Wikipedia is, right? It is a crowd-sourced online encyclopedia. If you look at the link you refused to read you will see a list of references at the bottom. This is analogous to a bibliography in a book or article. You can vet each and every one of them if you like.

So please educate us. What parts of the Wiki article are incorrect? Cite your own sources and explain why you think they are better.

Remember, the Wiki page is only a gateway to information. It is a summary, not a source. But you would be hard pressed to find a better and more universally accepted starting point for a casual debate than Wikipedia.

Now, do you have something to say about the content or was this just a matter of lazy dodging?

“Question, Explore, Discover”

Since: Dec 11

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#102814 May 7, 2013
ROFL wrote:
<quoted text>
Are you calling Wiki a source of valid "facts"?
LOL
Yes, and YouTube is the place to go for scientific research.
And if you are not the poster I was replying to earlier, I apologize. But the point stands.
Farkus

Lexington, KY

#102815 May 7, 2013
Nice to see the Christian Apologists on here referencing verses from the Book of John on what God thinks about Homosexuals.

The verse that is used to HATE Homosexuals is in Leviticus. The same book that says that eating shellfish and hooved animals is an abomination, and that a woman who is on her period must sacrifice animals to cleanse herself before entering the Temple.

Do you Christians not even READ your own fairytale? No wonder you want it taught in schools.

Here is a great deal for you: I would have no problem teaching the Bible in public schools as long as ALL religious texts are taught AND all religions will start paying taxes and fund the classes. I'm sure the 'money changers' like Kenneth 'Jesus told me to buy a 20 million dollar jet' Copeland wouldn't go for that.
nna

Umuahia, Nigeria

#102816 May 8, 2013
bible study is very important if one want to grow spiritually. http//unn.edu.ng

“I Am No One Else”

Since: Apr 12

Seattle

#102817 May 8, 2013
nna wrote:
bible study is very important if one want to grow spiritually. http//unn.edu.ng
Sure, it will lead kids to Buddhism more.
Yes and Amen

Winchester, KY

#102818 May 8, 2013
Mike Duquette wrote:
<quoted text> So if you live in the Middle East the chances are at least 80% that your conscience leads you to Islam? Same for India and Hinduism and Israel for Judaism?
No!
Satan leads you to other gods...
You forget it was the God of Israel that gave us Jesus!
John
3:16 For God so loved the world, that he gave his only-begotten
Son, that whoever believeth in him, should not perish, but have
everlasting life.
3:17 For God sent not his Son into the world to condemn the
world, but that the world through him may be saved.
3:18 He that believeth on him, is not condemned: but he that
believeth not, is condemned already, because he hath not
believed in the name of the only-begotten Son of God.
3:19 And this is the condemnation, that light is come into the
world, and men have loved darkness rather than light, because
their deeds were evil.

“I Am No One Else”

Since: Apr 12

Seattle

#102819 May 8, 2013
Yes and Amen wrote:
<quoted text>No!
Satan leads you to other gods...
You forget it was the God of Israel that gave us Jesus!
John
3:16 For God so loved the world, that he gave his only-begotten
Son, that whoever believeth in him, should not perish, but have
everlasting life.
3:17 For God sent not his Son into the world to condemn the
world, but that the world through him may be saved.
3:18 He that believeth on him, is not condemned: but he that
believeth not, is condemned already, because he hath not
believed in the name of the only-begotten Son of God.
3:19 And this is the condemnation, that light is come into the
world, and men have loved darkness rather than light, because
their deeds were evil.
Still assertions, yet still no evidence any of these are true.
Yes and Amen

Stanton, KY

#102820 May 8, 2013
Mike Duquette wrote:
<quoted text>So gods test is to see what persons believe in stuff that has no evidence of reality? So maybe I should believe in unicorns?
Sorry but I trust logic over commands such as this. It is just a propaganda tactic to trick people into belief systems.
You should believe in Unicorns...
Up until the 1800's single horned Rhinoceroses were defined as Unicorns!
Your logic is flawed by man's understanding...
Irreducible complexity should tell you this, but yet you listen
to sinful man...
Go figure!
Yes and Amen

Stanton, KY

#102821 May 8, 2013
curious wrote:
<quoted text>
My God has already revealed himself to me,by my following his instructions and has proven to me that I can believe in him and trust him,,,,,Whw would I waste my time searching for something I have already found?Seems to me, that would be illogical.
On the other hand,if I kept searching for somthing I thought I would not be able to find,in the hope that I would find it,that,to me,is not illogical,that is being persistent...
Be persistent in prayer SEEK and you will find....
AMEN!
God is Good!
Yes and Amen

Stanton, KY

#102822 May 8, 2013
Apple At Cha wrote:
<quoted text>
Amen!
And one doesn't need religion to teach one right from wrong. If one doesn't know right from wrong, one lacks empathy - not religion.
And if one needs offer of a celestial prize in order to be good, they are selfish and will never truly be selfless.
If they need threat of eternal damnation, they are just as self-serving - as their "good acts" are only to keep their tail from the fire and not out of a true spirit of empathy.
John
3:16 For God so loved the world, that he gave his only-begotten
Son, that whoever believeth in him, should not perish, but have
everlasting life.
3:17 For God sent not his Son into the world to condemn the
world, but that the world through him may be saved.
3:18 He that believeth on him, is not condemned: but he that
believeth not, is condemned already, because he hath not
believed in the name of the only-begotten Son of God.
3:19 And this is the condemnation, that light is come into the
world, and men have loved darkness rather than light, because
their deeds were evil.

Case closed!

“I Am No One Else”

Since: Apr 12

Seattle

#102823 May 8, 2013
Yes and Amen wrote:
<quoted text>John
3:16 For God so loved the world, that he gave his only-begotten
Son, that whoever believeth in him, should not perish, but have
everlasting life.
3:17 For God sent not his Son into the world to condemn the
world, but that the world through him may be saved.
3:18 He that believeth on him, is not condemned: but he that
believeth not, is condemned already, because he hath not
believed in the name of the only-begotten Son of God.
3:19 And this is the condemnation, that light is come into the
world, and men have loved darkness rather than light, because
their deeds were evil.
Case closed!
It would be, if you could prove your god is real.
ScienceProves

London, KY

#102824 May 8, 2013
Yes and Amen wrote:
<quoted text>Dump his body in the ocean, as
we did with Osama...
Works for me!
LOL
Oh what an"excuse" that would be for the twisted and warped.

Nope. The kids in the current admin need to grow up, take off their little muzac JayZ/Beyouncee whatever streaming earphones, get a clue, and realize, the offices the people of this nation voted them into, require them to WORK and have to EARN their tax payer paid for salaries too.
The fact that SOME of them are in over their heads (or that they are blind behind rose colored glasses or something) is so obvious with this latest show of lacking in leadership, is obvious.

The remains of a NON-citizen terrorist thug, who incited hell and havoc on a US city, should have NEVER made it's way to the private sector for handling.

Just another FAILED moment of NO domestic policy and clueless, on handling terrorists and terrorism out the current administration.

Just this week it will have to share the media streams with the Benghazi trial.

Shameful.
ScienceProves

London, KY

#102825 May 8, 2013
ChromiuMan wrote:
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The religious are the only ones who regard the theory of evolution as a theology. Whether that is because it is viewed as a threat to Abrahamic Creationism, because it is rhetoric that is prevalent among certain religious circles and spokesmen or because some religious minded deign not to distinguish the difference between science and divinity has been debated numerous times in this thread and elsewhere. Common regard of it does not come anywhere close to matching any observance or definition of theology, religion or faith.
How flippin' hard can it be, to realize that MANY have no problem keeping the two seperately contained, each to their own catagorical area.

I can't imagine being THAT...that...unbalanced, OR closed OR empty minded.

Gaw...just whistle and smack the foreheads of. Loonytunetics 101.

“Breaking the spell ”

Since: Dec 10

of the puppet master

#102826 May 8, 2013
do whut wrote:
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I just want to know how things began without Him. This whole charade got put into motion somehow.
i just want to know how it could have started with god? Claiming god did it, answers no more questions than "nature did it".
Yes and Amen

Stanton, KY

#102827 May 8, 2013
Brian_G wrote:
If you want to learn science, math or literature, read a text book. If you want to learn morality, read the bible.
Not 'Just' morality, but the Love of a Good God!
Amen!
God Bless :-)
ScienceProves

London, KY

#102828 May 8, 2013
LOL in a suit wrote:
"What makes a HATERS a HATER"
The INBability to comprehend anything beyond verbatim at a Fifth grade reading level.
There's more of course but one word works.
Ignorance.
Yup. That's pretty much it in NUT(cases) shell.

“Breaking the spell ”

Since: Dec 10

of the puppet master

#102829 May 8, 2013
do whut wrote:
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I just want to know how things began without Him. This whole charade got put into motion somehow.
Great to hear you are now curious about how nature works. If you wish to learn about it, the best way is to read science books. Maybe watch the science channel or something.
It is clear you have not done so as of yet, so it stands to reason why you have so many gaps of knowledge in which you insert a god.

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