Bible study rules for public schools proposed

Feb 10, 2010 Full story: The Courier-Journal 131,115

FRANKFORT, Ky. - The state would create rules for teaching about the Bible in public high schools under a bill filed Monday by three Democratic senators.

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#102271 May 3, 2013
curious wrote:
To all the Atheists who spend all day on Topix
posting nonsense.
Here is YOUR CALL TO ARMS
Get a Job by Silhouettes
Get a job Sha na na na, sha na na na na
Yet, Here you are...

“There is no god.”

Since: Jan 12

USA

#102272 May 3, 2013
stupid childish lie:(1) holyhatebible (2) holyhatebible (3) holyhatebible

All definitions under the subject "stupid childish lie", 1, 2 and 3 are interchangable.

That holyhatebible is a "stupid childish lie".

Or

Your parents told you a "stupid childish lie" when they said the holyhatebible was the truth.

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#102273 May 3, 2013
Raina wrote:
<quoted text>Well that's a stupid childish lie.
Hardly. It's one of curious's favorite argument methods. I know from personal experience and I know I'm not the only one who's been the victim of it.
curious

Ocoee, FL

#102274 May 3, 2013
KittenKoder wrote:
<quoted text>
Yet .. it was ALL written after the fact.
You are as ignorant as a century is long;
You are claiming that the old testament was written after the new testament.
Get down to PETSMART,they specialize in mental tuneups for people like you....
If they can't help ya,drive down to the junkyard and trade your brain in for a discarded air filter, may not be the remedy but,it's worth a shot.
curious

Ocoee, FL

#102275 May 3, 2013
Quantummist wrote:
<quoted text>
Yet, Here you are...
Hey Kumquat,I am neither an Atheist or in need of a job..
I am very comfortably retired....
Not surprising that you could not see that...
Your beard is obscuring your vision....Could be somthing else

“I Am No One Else”

Since: Apr 12

Seattle

#102276 May 3, 2013
Skeptical Spectacles wrote:
<quoted text>
I think you and I may disagree about the intelligence or acceptability of that answer. But, I agree with you that it's vastly superior to the typical "evil-ution is stupid" argument-from-ignorance responses given by the bulk of the religious.
I never bought the whole "god" thing, which is why I let the church at a young age. But yeah, they reconcile their beliefs with science instead of deny science, because ... well ... let's face it, the LDS church is the most successful business in the southwestern US. Have you seen their main temple in Utah? It's got more gold than all the rappers in New York combined.

“I Am No One Else”

Since: Apr 12

Seattle

#102277 May 3, 2013
curious wrote:
<quoted text>
You are as ignorant as a century is long;
You are claiming that the old testament was written after the new testament.
Get down to PETSMART,they specialize in mental tuneups for people like you....
If they can't help ya,drive down to the junkyard and trade your brain in for a discarded air filter, may not be the remedy but,it's worth a shot.
No, the OT was written at the same time, idiot.

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#102278 May 3, 2013
KittenKoder wrote:
<quoted text>Yet .. it was ALL written after the fact.
Haha. What? Isaiah was written after Jesus Christ?
First time I've heard that one

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#102279 May 3, 2013
KittenKoder wrote:
<quoted text>Dying stars and gas clouds. Any other stupid questions?
Yes, so your body morphed from dying stars and hot air?

“See how you are?”

Since: Jul 12

Earth

#102280 May 3, 2013
curious wrote:
<quoted text>
If one believes he is right,one does not frantically continue to try to prove they were right,by falsely attributing to others,what others have not said.
No,I have not pounced on the idea that Atheists believe in God.
That is an ignorant comment and illogical....
But then again,it is you,that has arrived at that illogical conclusion and are trying to attribute it to me..
Keep in mind
Frantic efforts always Fail
And yet, here you are. Frenetically denying what you have written.
curious wrote:
<quoted text>"...that is why you (Q, an atheist) believe God does not want anything to do with SD (Sunny Day) either,due to SD"S wish that they should die."
Note that you can't maintain even the barest concept that Q does not believe gods exist and therefore "they/it/He" have/has no wants.
and here it is again. Your own words with no misquotes or out of context manipulations.
curious wrote:
<quoted text>"I understand to mean that,you (Q, an atheist) believe that,although God doesn't want anything to do with Unbelievers or SD either,he does not believe unbelievers should be punished by death due to their disagreement with SD"s beliefs."
Again, an atheist does not attribute any wants or beliefs to that which has never existed. Isn't it abundantly evident (even to yourself?) that despite all protestations otherwise, you are currently incapable of embracing such a thought - even temporarily and hypothetically? Can you say, "atrophied hippocampus?" Sure, I knew you could.

“I Am No One Else”

Since: Apr 12

Seattle

#102281 May 3, 2013
do whut wrote:
<quoted text>
Yes, so your body morphed from dying stars and hot air?
Why can't you avoid anthropomorphizing natural processes?

“See how you are?”

Since: Jul 12

Earth

#102282 May 3, 2013
KittenKoder wrote:
<quoted text>
No, the OT was written at the same time, idiot.
The OT wasn't written at the same time as the sequel, the first Christian edition OT was compiled and edited during the same time as the sequel was being written.

“I Am No One Else”

Since: Apr 12

Seattle

#102283 May 3, 2013
ChromiuMan wrote:
<quoted text>
The OT wasn't written at the same time as the sequel, the first Christian edition OT was compiled and edited during the same time as the sequel was being written.
You just said the same thing I did, basically, only you added in the details. ;)

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Since: Feb 12

Eradicate willful ignorance.

#102284 May 3, 2013
LOL in a suit wrote:
Hey Ummm,
I have given your question some thought and I think you need more selections maybe a 5 and a 666. The kjv holyhatebible "god" does not exist no "belief" needed.
Omnipotent, I think is a big part of the end result, impossible as defined in the holyhatebible.
If an individual were to read the holyhatebible and watch the offering plate being passed.......Or better yet consider leprechauns and fairy tales.......Maybe just look at the people who speak for the sky critter.
There would be little reason to "believe".
From your selection, I would have to pick 4 without the "belief" part.
I assume you are referring to the kjv holyhatebibles sky critter.
If the words "believe that" is offensive to you, due to the faith connotations, simply think of it as the "i hold the opinion that" (as that was the definite of "believe" that I intended to use). Do recognize that 4 is just as illogical as 1, at least for the question of "God", as written. If we extend that all things in the Bible must be true in order for that God to exist, then you are absolutely correct that we have evidence to disprove the existence. But that's not quite what I asked. Sorry for the confusion, but I was simply asking about "A God", not specific KJV God.
do whut wrote:
<quoted text>
Yes, so your body morphed from dying stars and hot air?
Not air, gas. But yes, stupid. Read a book. I don't know how you can exist in this world and not be aware of those things.

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#102285 May 3, 2013
_Ummm_ wrote:
You really don't know a lot, do you? Why don't you go read something instead of asking me to explain 30 elementary concepts to you?

And "perfectly"? WTF are you smoking? I see creationists say this type of garbage all the time. Why have I never seen anything remotely like perfection in our solar system/universe? All I see is a bunch of stuff being influenced, through the laws of nature (etc.), by a bunch of other stuff. And vice versa.
do whut wrote, "<quoted text>
No, the pinnacle of arrogance is your constant displays of attacking people's intelligence.
"

You really think that? No you don't. That's just too stupid. Assuming you KNOW things that there is no evidence for is far more arrogant than anything you'll ever see me do.
do whut wrote, "<quoted text>
Demonstrating that others are inferior? So you obviously are meaning intellectually. Apply this logic to physically. It is no different from the more muscular jocks giving swirlies in the bathroom. It's still a bully approach.
"

Again, do you read anything? If you'd read it, you'd see "generally through choices, not biology". As I've stated ad nauseam, I'm not criticizing people because they can't do math as well as me or can't remember as many things as me or whatever. Every non-handicapped person is capable of proper logic or doing simple things like learning about a topic before arguing about it or asking instead of telling when their knowledge is lacking (as those are choices/actions). If that group doesn't include you, let me know and I will stop ripping on you for those reasons and assume that you are indeed handicapped.
curious wrote, "<quoted text>
UMMM Hey! Still don't know how to use a comma,
Seems you are the expert on both,comma and coma,as attested by your state of mind

DERRRRP
"

That was just so amazingly clever that you don't get a real response.
do whut wrote, "<quoted text>
If you honestly believe that you are so much more intelligent and superior than everyone else, why do you waste it all arguing with us "idiots" on Topix? If we are so far beneath you that we are wasting your time, why aren't you doing something more constructive with your time?"

Why don't you get it? I've never said "everyone else". You're making that up. You are a strawman factory.
do whut wrote, "<quoted text>
If you work more with science in one day than any of us do in our entire lifetimes, why haven't we heard your name associated with the cure of a disease?"

Because you don't know my name, and medicine is not the only way that science improves the human race.
do whut wrote, "<quoted text>
Why don't you run for office and turn our environment into the utopia that you claimed to be able to create?"

Because politicians are scumbags and a single non-scumbag joining their ranks will either have no impact or be eliminated.
do whut wrote, "<quoted text>
You wanted someone to show you where you are stupid? There you go. If you are really a super intellect, then you are stupid for wasting all your time and energy proving to us all what moronic, idiotic, wastes of oxygen we are. "

Your lack of understanding about the miniscule amount of time and energy I spend here invalidates any conclusion you think you've drawn. And "a super intellect"? Funny that I don't recall ever saying that.
do whut wrote, "<quoted text>
I'm trying to decipher Ummm's post that everything started from amino acids. "

Life is not "everything", moron. You don't need to decipher anything. You just need to learn English and then read my damn post.
I don't recall anyone from Monticello or surrounding area being credited for any major scientific breakthroughs so I would have assumed it was you.

Listen, I hate to waste any more of your precious time. I know you have other morons to insult and world problems to solve and all, but just one question.
I thought you said that everything came from amino acids. So if not, what did everything we see come from?

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#102286 May 3, 2013
KittenKoder wrote:
<quoted text>You are the saddest Mormon I have ever known. Most Mormons are highly educated and know all this already, they are smart enough to reconcile their religion with the scientific facts instead of denying science. Want to know what the bishop of my ward said when I asked about evolution? "It was just god's way of making life what it is." That's actually an intelligent answer, and one that is actually acceptable. Yep, Mormons don't deny evolution or any of the scientific facts, none of them, that makes you not only a failed Mormon but likely a liar, as I highly doubt someone as uneducated as you would ever be allowed in one of the churches simply because you'd bring down the IQ of the entire ward.
Haha
No I'm being a smart alic right now, but if you look back at earlier comments I've made, I don't deny science. I don't deny the idea of evolution, I just believe that God had a hand in it.
I don't believe the earth is 6000 years old. I believe creation happened over creation periods, not 6 actual days, etc.

I don't believe that things happened by chance. I believe that God had a plan, and He executed that plan.
And I believe that since He has the power and ability to create all that we can see (and even things we cannot see), then He can reattach an ear rather easily.
It just amazes me that people think everything came to be the way it is today, by chance. And if it did, what started it all? Will it self destruct at some point and start again on its own? What would it be like if it did?

Since: Aug 10

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#102287 May 3, 2013
KittenKoder wrote:
<quoted text>I never bought the whole "god" thing, which is why I let the church at a young age. But yeah, they reconcile their beliefs with science instead of deny science, because ... well ... let's face it, the LDS church is the most successful business in the southwestern US. Have you seen their main temple in Utah? It's got more gold than all the rappers in New York combined.
The Salt Lake Temple was constructed in the 1800's over the course of 40 years. The story of its constructing is quite impressive. But it doesn't have near the gold in it that Solomon's temple had. Temples were referred to as the Mountain of The Lord.
One interesting fact. Brigham Young did try to get the state named Deseret. But the government official that had to approve it was not very fond of Mormons, so he it named Utah after the Ute Indians in that territory.

The translation of Utah in their language is "top of the mountains".

Isaiah 2:2
And it shall come to pass in the last days, that the mountain of the Lord's house shall be established in the top of the mountains, and shall be exalted above the hills; and all nations shall flow unto it.

“I Am No One Else”

Since: Apr 12

Seattle

#102288 May 3, 2013
do whut wrote:
<quoted text>
Haha
No I'm being a smart alic right now, but if you look back at earlier comments I've made, I don't deny science. I don't deny the idea of evolution, I just believe that God had a hand in it.
I don't believe the earth is 6000 years old. I believe creation happened over creation periods, not 6 actual days, etc.
I don't believe that things happened by chance. I believe that God had a plan, and He executed that plan.
And I believe that since He has the power and ability to create all that we can see (and even things we cannot see), then He can reattach an ear rather easily.
It just amazes me that people think everything came to be the way it is today, by chance. And if it did, what started it all? Will it self destruct at some point and start again on its own? What would it be like if it did?
Chance is simply another word for "we don't know," that is all. You use it as if it's some actual random thing, nothing is random, but no "plan" or intelligence is needed for things to behave within laws. The universe exists around the laws, not because of them, not even in spite of them, another universe could exist around very different laws, but none of that matters to us, nor would knowing if an intelligence played a role in the start of the universe. That's what you still don't get and I mentioned this to you once already. Knowing the "who" or the "what" does not effect the "how," and thus, even if your religious nonsense was correct, it would have zero bearing on scientific research. However, the problem is, you present no evidence to support your religious stuff, thus it is, rightfully and sanely, dismissed as mythology.

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#102289 May 3, 2013
KittenKoder wrote:
<quoted text>No, the OT was written at the same time, idiot.
Whoa, who told you that? Even atheists don't believe this.

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#102290 May 3, 2013
KittenKoder wrote:
<quoted text>Why can't you avoid anthropomorphizing natural processes?
I'm just asking you to clarify. Active listening means you repeat back to someone what they just said in your own words. That's what I was doing.
Lets just start over then. In your words, how did suns and planets come to be? How did they begin to orbit in an incredibly consistent manner (I won't say perfect)? And how did we come to exist?
And did all this happen under the direction of a being, or on its own?

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