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Bible study rules for public schools proposed

There are 142474 comments on the The Courier-Journal story from Feb 10, 2010, titled Bible study rules for public schools proposed. In it, The Courier-Journal reports that:

FRANKFORT, Ky. - The state would create rules for teaching about the Bible in public high schools under a bill filed Monday by three Democratic senators.

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#102304 May 3, 2013
KittenKoder wrote:
<quoted text>No, you are anthropomorphizing things to avid the reality of it. A common tactic employed by people who employed by people using the fallacy of ignorance. We are chemical processes, chemical processes tend to be started by chemical reactions.
Do you know the definition of that word?
I'm not humanizing inanimate objects. Can you just answer my question?

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#102305 May 3, 2013
KittenKoder wrote:
<quoted text>I believe in nothing. I accept only what has solid evidence, not just hearsay. Saying "god dun it" is not an answer, when science discovers a real answer, you can say "god dun it that way" and at least then you'd be closer to sane. But Mormons think women are to be owned and treated like possessions, thus, your opinions are to be insulted.
Wow, you guys say Christians avoid answering. I'm not trying to trap anyone here. Just answer.
If you don't like the word believe, substitute some other word that means an admission that you don't really know, but think happened based off of evidence.

“I Am No One Else”

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Seattle

#102306 May 3, 2013
do whut wrote:
<quoted text>
Wow, you guys say Christians avoid answering. I'm not trying to trap anyone here. Just answer.
If you don't like the word believe, substitute some other word that means an admission that you don't really know, but think happened based off of evidence.
Well, since I do not say I know something that is not based on solid evidence, then I do not need to admit to anything.

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#102307 May 3, 2013
_Ummm_ wrote:
If the words "believe that" is offensive to you, due to the faith connotations, simply think of it as the "i hold the opinion that" (as that was the definite of "believe" that I intended to use). Do recognize that 4 is just as illogical as 1, at least for the question of "God", as written. If we extend that all things in the Bible must be true in order for that God to exist, then you are absolutely correct that we have evidence to disprove the existence. But that's not quite what I asked. Sorry for the confusion, but I was simply asking about "A God", not specific KJV God.

do whut wrote, "<quoted text>
Yes, so your body morphed from dying stars and hot air?"

Not air, gas. But yes, stupid. Read a book. I don't know how you can exist in this world and not be aware of those things.
You say in this post that I don't like the word believe, though I've fully admitted my faith, which is basically belief. But have you noticed the atheist response to the word believe??
None of us witnessed these events in this current state of mind, so evidence or not, we still have to make a guess at some of the key points of the beginning of everything. Evidence takes you to a certain point but then theories have to be developed, and there are several theories. No one really knows for sure.
What word would you prefer I use in this case other than believe?

“I Am No One Else”

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Seattle

#102308 May 3, 2013
do whut wrote:
<quoted text>
Do you know the definition of that word?
I'm not humanizing inanimate objects. Can you just answer my question?
Anthropomorphizing is exactly what you are doing. You only understand one type of "formation method" thus you use only that type to describe anything. Answer this: Is a snowflake created or the result of water freezing and the polarization of the molecules shaping the ice into elaborate crystal formations?

“There is no god.”

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#102310 May 3, 2013
Some Atheists(myself being one) do not like to use the term "I believe" instead they(I) say "I think" or "I know" or several other terms.

Therefore god exists.

*sigh*
curious

Ocoee, FL

#102311 May 3, 2013
_Ummm_ wrote:
<quoted text>
I didn't answer your question because it's stupid and irrelevant. You can't spell, can't form proper sentences, and you use about three times as many commas as any same person ever would. You don't get to claim anything in this universe is "not logical". You don't get to make some poorly typed "I know you are but what am I" statement in response to being called a moron.
I'll make this very simple. You are a 1. Unless you have a problem with being declared a 1, then you can tell me which other number you are.
I welcome any other more rational people, regardless of belief, to actually respond to what I asked.
Yeah I've noticed that about you. Anytime a question is posed,that puts you between a rock and a hard place,knowing that to respond,will destroy your argument,you opt to insult and claim the question is irrelevant. You do not have the courage of your convictions....
As far as the insults,It does not matter,I've been insulted by better people than you....I have ignored them to
When you cannot Debate in a civil ,intelligent manner,it's because you suspect,with good reason,that you are losing the argument.
That is confirmed by the faCT THAT,YOU HAVE LOST YOUR TEMPER.
Me,I'm cool as a cucumber,with the intellect of a Charter Member of Menza LOL See ya Yam fam

“pervinco per logica”

Since: Feb 12

Eradicate willful ignorance.

#102312 May 3, 2013
do whut wrote:
<quoted text>
This is a lie right here. I didn't start insulting you first and you know it. You decided to join a conversation that was already in motion and immediately started calling people idiots, morons, and nutjobs.
But anyway, I've halfway learned how to ignore the childish insults, so I was trying to ask.
No, it's not a lie. You weren't insulted until you insulted me by misrepresented my positionor lying to me. Go look.
do whut wrote:
<quoted text>
Let me ask again.
Since humans couldn't have come into existence before the solar system, and I thought you'd make that correlation, let me ask you how you think stars and planets came to exist and mingle with each other in gravitational fashion? Then how did humans form from amino acids?
And, what started the chain of events? And do you think this randomly happened or there could have been an intelligence behind it all?
There are many theories out there about these things, I realize that, but I'm asking you what you believe.(And yes Crom Man, I'm using that word for simplicity)
Oh, so all you want an explanation from the first second of the universe until the first human walked the planet. That's all?

You don't want much, do you?

Why don't you narrow it down a bit, because I'm not typing a library on Topix just because you don't know. I will say that there is a great deal of consensus on most of the things you are asking, and that my examination of the evidence and underlying theories doesn't give me any reason to disagree. But really, beyond that, there is no way to make a reasonably short answer to your questions. If you can form more pointed questions, I will try to answer later.

“There is no god.”

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USA

#102313 May 3, 2013
I just made some tea.

Tea leaves were needed to make tea.

Tea leaves were made.

Therefore god exists.

Ignorance.

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#102314 May 3, 2013
KittenKoder wrote:
<quoted text>We look for real answers.
What did you find?

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#102315 May 3, 2013
KittenKoder wrote:
<quoted text>Well, since I do not say I know something that is not based on solid evidence, then I do not need to admit to anything.
Face palm

What do you think?

“Speaker of Mountain Wisdom....”

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#102316 May 3, 2013
do whut wrote:
<quoted text>
Ok, so now answer the question please
"All I an to is explain it to you I annot understand it for you"

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#102317 May 3, 2013
KittenKoder wrote:
<quoted text>Anthropomorphizing is exactly what you are doing. You only understand one type of "formation method" thus you use only that type to describe anything. Answer this: Is a snowflake created or the result of water freezing and the polarization of the molecules shaping the ice into elaborate crystal formations?
Take the word "or" out and you have a decent answer.
Can you answer the real question the same way?

“Speaker of Mountain Wisdom....”

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London, KY

#102318 May 3, 2013
do whut wrote:
<quoted text>
Do you know the definition of that word?
I'm not humanizing inanimate objects. Can you just answer my question?
Everyone answered your question.... Just because you do not understand the answers or they are not your preconceived notion of what the answer should be you ask for another answer....

In my case I gave you a link to a answer that started from the first real physical particle that converted out of the unified energy form that still exists as a inverse tensor force and explains Everything to how complex live forms self organized....

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#102319 May 3, 2013
_Ummm_ wrote:
<quoted text>No, it's not a lie. You weren't insulted until you insulted me by misrepresented my positionor lying to me. Go look.
do whut wrote, "<quoted text>
Let me ask again.
Since humans couldn't have come into existence before the solar system, and I thought you'd make that correlation, let me ask you how you think stars and planets came to exist and mingle with each other in gravitational fashion? Then how did humans form from amino acids?
And, what started the chain of events? And do you think this randomly happened or there could have been an intelligence behind it all?
There are many theories out there about these things, I realize that, but I'm asking you what you believe.(And yes Crom Man, I'm using that word for simplicity)"

Oh, so all you want an explanation from the first second of the universe until the first human walked the planet. That's all?

You don't want much, do you?

Why don't you narrow it down a bit, because I'm not typing a library on Topix just because you don't know. I will say that there is a great deal of consensus on most of the things you are asking, and that my examination of the evidence and underlying theories doesn't give me any reason to disagree. But really, beyond that, there is no way to make a reasonably short answer to your questions. If you can form more pointed questions, I will try to answer later.
Since when has it bothered you to write long answers? Haha

Start with the first second, or the seconds before the first second.

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#102320 May 3, 2013
Quantummist wrote:
<quoted text>"All I an to is explain it to you I annot understand it for you"
What?

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#102321 May 3, 2013
Wow. I'm a bit disappointed. I share my beliefs on creation, before creation, and after death and then deal with all of you making fun of me for weeks.

I ask you all how you think everything came into existence and all I get is a rash of crap about how I asked the question and how stupid I am for trying to ask it. Really?
How are your responses any better than "God dun it" (as you summarize my beliefs)?

“Speaker of Mountain Wisdom....”

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#102322 May 3, 2013
do whut wrote:
<quoted text>
What?
... My C is sticking....

“I Am No One Else”

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Seattle

#102324 May 3, 2013
do whut wrote:
<quoted text>
What did you find?
Well, scientific studies have produced solid theories, you would call those "answers," to how the vast number of species came into being and how evolution and natural selection played a valuable role in this happening. They have also discovered where all the heavy elements came from, we often call those "dying stars" but in reality they are not truly alive thus they don't really die, they just sort of explode, spewing their insides all over the universe and then collapsing into what we call black holes. We have learned that certain elements react to electricity in very predictable, and useful ways, which has lead us to develop technology called computers around these very useful elements. We know that viruses make you sick now. We know that the brain works on chemical reactions which produce electrical impulses. We know that emotions are chemical reactions to external stimulation.

We know a lot more, all of which would never have been known if they had just said "god dun it" and left it at that. No imaginary being instructed them to find these actual answers, no all powerful being kept these answers from them, they did it all on their own, the ones that figured all of this out. If we just accept one non-answer we will never find any real answers.

“I Am No One Else”

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Seattle

#102325 May 3, 2013
do whut wrote:
<quoted text>
Take the word "or" out and you have a decent answer.
Can you answer the real question the same way?
It cannot be removed, because something created cannot be the result of natural processes, they are exclusive.

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