Bible study rules for public schools proposed

There are 137947 comments on the The Courier-Journal story from Feb 10, 2010, titled Bible study rules for public schools proposed. In it, The Courier-Journal reports that:

FRANKFORT, Ky. - The state would create rules for teaching about the Bible in public high schools under a bill filed Monday by three Democratic senators.

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#102054 May 2, 2013
aWitchintheWoods wrote:
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Curious also thinks I "may be gary" just because I responded to his post.
Makes me think of the unfaithful husband who accuses his innocent wife of cheating.
Since he is doing it, he thinks everyone is...
I wonder if curious realizes that people who accuse others of doing something without any proof are generally doing that exact thing themselves.
I agree, he's projecting. I'm also sure he's thinking that you and I are the same person now.

I always picture him hunched over his keyboard mumbling incoherently to himself and periodically erupting with cackling laughter for no reason. More than likely that's not the way he is at all...but, it's the image I have of him.

Since: Aug 10

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#102055 May 2, 2013
Mike Duquette wrote:
<quoted text>Maybe, just maybe you are wrong. Do you have the humility to admit you could be wrong?
I do not need proof, I would be happy with just some evidence. Do you know the difference? I would be a bit pleased with just some logical answers, but you do not have them.
Of course I could admit I'm wrong. But I think I'm right so I will continue my path until shown otherwise, same as you.

What evidence do you want? That God is real? That there is one true church? That Jesus was the Son of God? Which one?
curious

Ocoee, FL

#102056 May 2, 2013
Yiago wrote:
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Again, you guys have an extremely low bar for proof when it comes to Jesus, yet you want science to show you a crocoduck to accept evolution.
I don't care if Jesus claimed to be Michael Jackson and then said "Lo, Billy Jean surely shall not be mine".
Here's the problem with Ancient Interpretation: it is made up.
You dig through thousands of passages hunting for words or phrases than could possibly be interpreted in a certain way, such as to validate Jesus as a superhero. Obviously in a tome as wordy as the Bible you're GOING TO FIND IT. I can go to the Bible right now and find something that I could say points to Michael Jackson's birth, rise, and fall. It is not that hard to do.
The only reason you find this stuff compelling is that you believe in it already. You are not testing the idea, you are simply looking for validation of it. And when you pile up all these ridiculous fantasies the mound becomes so large you assume that means "good evidence".
Look up Modern Interpretation. This is the method of Bible interpretation that began sometime around the 17th century, particularly in Germany. Those are the guys who figured out that Genesis, for example, was written by no fewer than 3 different authors in 3 different times. The two different versions of creation in Genesis were written by two different authors. The story of Jacob blessing the 12 sons is a myth that explains how the 12 tribes of Israel came to be as they were. And so on.
Ancient Interpretation is pious in nature. It assumes the Bible is perfectly harmonious. Modern Interpretation is scientific and historical in nature. It assumes very little.
This is what I asked you

"Can you explain how this method of,Ancient Interpretation, when applied to all the prophecies that were fulfilled in Christ, invalidates them, and on what basis are they invalidated.?

Here is how you responded
"Here's the problem with Ancient Interpretation: it is made up.
You dig through thousands of passages hunting for words or phrases than could possibly be interpreted in a certain way, such as to validate Jesus as a superhero. Obviously in a tome as wordy as the Bible you're GOING TO FIND IT. I can go to the Bible right now and find something that I could say points to Michael Jackson's birth, rise, and fall. It is not that hard to do."

Since it is that easy,as you claim,Then,you should have no problem
providing me with 5 Biblical prophecies that point to Michael Jackson,,If you can't find them,then try to apply them to anyone else of your choosing... That should not be very hard for you to do.

By the way,your very simplistic response to a complex set of events that you clearly do not understand,has convinced me that,you do not understand

“See how you are?”

Since: Jul 12

Earth

#102057 May 2, 2013
Known Fact wrote:
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"curious",
I just wanted to add to your statement---there are over 360 prophecies in the Hebrew Scriptures(Old Testament) that point forward to Jesus and he fulfilled every one of them.
"your very simplistic response to a complex set of events that you clearly do not understand,has convinced me that,you do not understand" -curious
curious

Ocoee, FL

#102058 May 2, 2013
Yiago wrote:
<quoted text>Show me the money.

Because from what I understand it is passages like this one that you base your belief on:

Gen 3:15 - And I will put enmity between thee and the woman, and between thy seed and her seed; it shall bruise thy head, and thou shalt bruise his heel.(KJV)

I mean, if this is what you call prophesy then your bar is indeed extremely low. This verse says literally NOTHING about the coming of Christ. And when you add up all the verses like it that are called "prophetic" you get a sum of zero.

The Hebrews did believe that the Messiah would come. It is very convenient for Christians to then find Hebrew passages stating their belief in the possibility of a coming Messiah as proof that Christ is that figure.

Imagine I wrote a novel stating that I think there will eventually be born the best novelist in history. Then, years later, some novelist comes along who is extremely popular and out sells most people. Then his fans find my book and claim that he is the fulfillment of my prophecy."
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I say that your analogy is simplistic,at best,bordering on gibberish.

On the other hand,if you had accurately predicted where he was born,what type of novels he would write,exact location of his birthplace,what his nationality would be,the exact location of his headquarters,described the major problems he would encounter during his lifetime, and what caused his death,among other things,then one could conclude that HE is the fulfillment of your prophecy

Psalm 22:16-18:“Dogs have surrounded me; a band of evil men has encircled me, they have pierced my hands and my feet.I can count all my bones
( Pierce my hands and my feet,I can count all my bones ,signifies crucifixion.

This prophecy was written long before crucifixion was invented )
; people stare and gloat over me. They divide my garments among them and cast lots for my clothing.”

Likely the clearest prophecy about Jesus is the entire 53rd chapter of Isaiah. Isaiah 53:3-7 is especially unmistakable:“He was despised and rejected by men, a man of sorrows, and familiar with suffering. Like one from whom men hide their faces he was despised, and we esteemed him not. Surely he took up our infirmities and carried our sorrows, yet we considered him stricken by God, smitten by him, and afflicted. But he was pierced for our transgressions, he was crushed for our iniquities; the punishment that brought us peace was upon him, and by his wounds we are healed. We all, like sheep, have gone astray, each of us has turned to his own way; and the LORD has laid on him the iniquity of us all. He was oppressed and afflicted, yet he did not open his mouth; he was led like a lamb to the slaughter, and as a sheep before her shearers is silent, so he did not open his mouth.”
curious

Ocoee, FL

#102059 May 2, 2013
ChromiuMan wrote:
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"your very simplistic response to a complex set of events that you clearly do not understand,has convinced me that,you do not understand" -curious
Hey,RustedChromeman,
Seems that your inflexible mind is not able to come up with an original thought,,,,,So CUTNPASTING some one elses has to suffice.

Obviously,you have not LEARNED anything
A wise man can learn more from a fools question,than a fool can learn from a wise answer

“There is no god.”

Since: Jan 12

USA

#102060 May 2, 2013
do whut wrote:
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Thanks again
Lets be truthful, you're an idiot and it's obvious.
Your holyhatebible should be no where near public schools........respect a religie.......not gonna happen........ Remember......

Since: Aug 10

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#102061 May 2, 2013
LOL in a suit wrote:
<quoted text>Lets be truthful, you're an idiot and it's obvious.
Your holyhatebible should be no where near public schools........respect a religie.......not gonna happen........ Remember......
Love these reminders.
But I think you may have a medical problem. It seems your intestines have wrapped around your optic nerve, giving you a crappy outlook on life.
You should have that looked at.
would love Bible Study

Glasgow, KY

#102062 May 2, 2013
I would love to see bible study in public schools!
curious

Ocoee, FL

#102063 May 2, 2013
Mike Duquette wrote:
<quoted text>Are you looking for Mohammed, Allah, or Zeus? How honest, and diligent is that effort?
Your response is a RED HERRING,,,look up it's meaning.

You and many others say that you want evidence of God's existence,
and God has provided you a way by which you can attain that evidence, if you really want to know him
When you really want something,you make every effort possible to get it....
You need ask yourselves,When have you ever made an honest effort to seek God?

Your response is,in no way,relevant to whai I posted.

I never said I wanted eviidence of Zeus Existence,I never said I wanted evidence of Allah Or Mohammed.
Since I did not ask,nor am I interested in,therefore there is no need for me to DILIGENTLY seek an answer

It is you hypocritical Atheists,who say,that you want evidence,and when told how that evidence can be attained,refuse to do so

In other words,you will not accept any answer,unless it is the one you want.
That is why you are hypocrites and illogical
Sunny Day

Monticello, KY

#102064 May 2, 2013
LOL in a suit wrote:
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Lets be truthful, you're an idiot and it's obvious.
Your holyhatebible should be no where near public schools........respect a religie.......not gonna happen........ Remember......
Who on earth would covet your respect? It means NOTHING! Do whut does not need your respect to validate his life. You don't even have respect for yourself let alone anyone else. A man with no respect for the Almighty God needs the breath God gave him to be sucked out. Why don't you ask Him to take it back since you want nothing to do with Him? You know why you don't? Because you are scared to die!! You know you are going to hell. You and your kind are not worth the air you breathe in society. You are a fungus. Go ahead take the challenge. Tell God to take the breath of life back, you don't want anything from Him. Just do it! I will not cry.
curious

Ocoee, FL

#102065 May 2, 2013
do whut wrote:
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Love these reminders.
But I think you may have a medical problem. It seems your intestines have wrapped around your optic nerve, giving you a crappy outlook on life.
You should have that looked at.
LOL,,,But,I partially disagree with your analysis.
I do not believe he has an optic nerve.
I believe he is all intestines,that is why those who know him claim he is full of SH+T

“Speaker of Mountain Wisdom....”

Since: Jan 10

London, KY

#102066 May 2, 2013
Sunny Day wrote:
<quoted text>Who on earth would covet your respect? It means NOTHING! Do whut does not need your respect to validate his life. You don't even have respect for yourself let alone anyone else. A man with no respect for the Almighty God needs the breath God gave him to be sucked out. Why don't you ask Him to take it back since you want nothing to do with Him? You know why you don't? Because you are scared to die!! You know you are going to hell. You and your kind are not worth the air you breathe in society. You are a fungus. Go ahead take the challenge. Tell God to take the breath of life back, you don't want anything from Him. Just do it! I will not cry.
Why would a rational person ask someone they do not believe exist to do anything, That is just plain Goofy.... And since from the sounds of it you have asked your invisible guy to do so and he, and I, are still here must mean you don't have an inside track either... I can just feel the godly love just pouring from you in this post.... Maybe that's why we are still here responding to you.... You are such a idiot filled with wishing those that disagree with you to die that God doesn't want anything to do with you either.... With your attitude I would say you have a reserved seat in that Hell place I keep hearing about....

“There is no god.”

Since: Jan 12

USA

#102067 May 2, 2013
do whut wrote:
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Love these reminders.
But I think you may have a medical problem. It seems your intestines have wrapped around your optic nerve, giving you a crappy outlook on life.
You should have that looked at.
Lets be truthful, you're an idiot and it's obvious.
Your holyhatebible should be no where near public schools........respect a religie.......not gonna happen........ Remember......

“There is no god.”

Since: Jan 12

USA

#102068 May 2, 2013
Lmao, three idiots and one a sozi agree, who would of thought. One should follow, god in a jesus suit's,teaching if one would claim to be a christian.

“There is no god.”

Since: Jan 12

USA

#102069 May 2, 2013
Quantummist wrote:
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Why would a rational person ask someone they do not believe exist to do anything, That is just plain Goofy.... And since from the sounds of it you have asked your invisible guy to do so and he, and I, are still here must mean you don't have an inside track either... I can just feel the godly love just pouring from you in this post.... Maybe that's why we are still here responding to you.... You are such a idiot filled with wishing those that disagree with you to die that God doesn't want anything to do with you either.... With your attitude I would say you have a reserved seat in that Hell place I keep hearing about....
I agree, lmao, religies are tooo easy, and they "thank you" for the truth, idiots.

“There is no god.”

Since: Jan 12

USA

#102070 May 2, 2013
Just read the posts of the so called christians, very god in a jesus suit, the hate is palatable.

“There is no god.”

Since: Jan 12

USA

#102071 May 2, 2013
The dim wit religie attacked me with its child remarks without me posting to the idiot, the hate it shows is funny for a christian.

“There is no god.”

Since: Jan 12

USA

#102072 May 2, 2013
But the hate is true to their beliefs, just read the holyhatebible.

“There is no god.”

Since: Jan 12

USA

#102073 May 2, 2013
The trinity hate club, lmfao.

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