Bible study rules for public schools proposed

There are 137688 comments on the The Courier-Journal story from Feb 10, 2010, titled Bible study rules for public schools proposed. In it, The Courier-Journal reports that:

FRANKFORT, Ky. - The state would create rules for teaching about the Bible in public high schools under a bill filed Monday by three Democratic senators.

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“Breaking the spell ”

Since: Dec 10

of the puppet master

#102034 May 2, 2013
do whut wrote:
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God tells us how to find Him. He does not tell us to dig up fossils to find Him. He does not tell us to analyze patterns to find Him. He does not tell us to search for Him in the clouds. He tells us to pray to Him and listen for the still small voice. This must be done with humility and a full intent to act on the answer that you receive.
So the propaganda tells you that looking for evidence is no way to find god? Of course it does, because it is impossible to find evidence for what does not exist.
That voice you hear is the brainwashing that told you to blindly believe.They are called thoughts.

“Breaking the spell ”

Since: Dec 10

of the puppet master

#102035 May 2, 2013
do whut wrote:
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No I didn't say answered prayers are not God's going. What? How did you get that?
And no, maybe someone else learned or grew stronger from someone passing. The person that passed is in a better place anyway if they were a believer. And it could be argued that the non-believer is in a better place too.
If suffering is the only way to be a better person, then I suppose we should start torturing people. Or maybe, just maybe, you are wrong. Do you have the humility to think you just might be wrong?

If god is not causing the miracles, then who or what is causing them? I have asked this several times yet you keep skipping it. Is it the devil?

“Breaking the spell ”

Since: Dec 10

of the puppet master

#102036 May 2, 2013
do whut wrote:
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Maybe I'm not at a point in my life where I am ready to receive that answer. I have prayed about this type thing before and felt the peace that the HG brings. He is also called the Comforter. I felt peace knowing the person was in a better place.
However, Jesus told us we can know the mysteries of the kingdom of God, so I continue to better myself and prepare myself so I may learn more. So far, this has proved successful. So if I learn God's purposes in this case, I will share with anyone that will listen or is prepared to listen.
Seems no one is at that point in their life for the holy ghost to answer, because I have asked many and no one has answers.
If your god does not have good answers, I am inclined to not look to him for answers.

“Breaking the spell ”

Since: Dec 10

of the puppet master

#102037 May 2, 2013
do whut wrote:
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Your reasons are that you want proof. I have told you that you won't get it. And I have told you how you can learn for yourself. We can banter forever, but you won't learn anything from me. You have to reach out to God yourself and receive your own answer.
And if I'm right, you did agree to come here. You accepted God's plan.
Maybe, just maybe you are wrong. Do you have the humility to admit you could be wrong?
I do not need proof, I would be happy with just some evidence. Do you know the difference? I would be a bit pleased with just some logical answers, but you do not have them.
ScienceProves

London, KY

#102038 May 2, 2013
KittenKoder wrote:
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"Uplifting?" From a religion religion that tells you that everyone is worthless, incapable, and useless. Scam tactic #3, beat down the mark then offer them snake oil that will "lift" them back up.
That's why I prefer to think for myself. There's good people in all different congregations, as well as bad people. There's good people in other "non organized religious" sectors, as well as bad people.

In my opinion, claims of being religious, non-religious or secular, isn't really what constitutes the basis for either good or bad.
Neither does what "book" people read or don't read, and really not even what "God" they believe, in or don't believe in.

Kind of something along the lines of-

New International Version (2011)
Matthew 16:26
What good will it be for someone to gain the whole world, yet forfeit their soul? Or what can anyone give in exchange for their soul?

Just my humble opinion though.

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#102039 May 2, 2013
curious wrote:
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Your inane reasoning has befuddled your mind.
What part of my reasoning is inane?
curious wrote:
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You have made a Spectacle of yourself.......
Wonder if that means making a fool of yourself.....
Could be.
No, it doesn't. You obviously have access to a computer and the internet. Why don't you look words up instead of displaying your ignorance?
curious wrote:
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I see you stopped posting under the name LOL in a suit.
I've gone over this before. I post under no other names. Why are you so fixated on that? You've accused me of posting under several other names in the past. I think at one point you accused me of being everyone who disagrees with you...or close to it.

Are you a conspiracy nut? Do you believe the moon landing was a hoax? Maybe the CIA is controlling your thoughts? Is the New World Order coming to take all your rights away?
curious wrote:
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One can hide behind a name,ignorance can not be hidden
I couldn't agree with you more.
ScienceProves

London, KY

#102040 May 2, 2013
KittenKoder wrote:
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That's one way, and nothing but assertions. Without any actual evidence, you have nothing to back those assertions up. So, your bible is nothing but myths and legends.
That may be how you view your Bible, but for others, it's a book that contains LOTS of words of true wisdom...and some interesting geographical descriptions and historical references, even to people like Simcha Jacobovici. Now there's some interesting and worthy telebision.

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#102041 May 2, 2013
curious wrote:
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The fact is ,you refused to answer my question
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That's rich...coming from you.
ScienceProves

London, KY

#102042 May 2, 2013
Skeptical Spectacles wrote:
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I'm not sure what you find confusing about the question. He's not asking you to label your life. He's asking what your position is on the topic.
I'm unaware of any evidence of your god's existence. I'm squarely in position 3. Pretty simple.
Have fun sitting in that box of lumped and labeled.
Too broad brush paint stroked and compartmentalized for moi lol.

“Breaking the spell ”

Since: Dec 10

of the puppet master

#102043 May 2, 2013
curious wrote:
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We have dealt with that question and I have given you the answer
based on what is clearly stated in Scriptures.
You and many others say that you want evidence of God's existence,
and God has provided you a way by which you can attain that evidence, if you really want to know him
God says" If you diligently seek me,you will find me"
God does not say,If you diligently seek me, others will find me.
There is evidence of God"s existence in the natural world,evidence that you refuse to accept.
You are not looking for evidence,you are looking for signs, signs that you will readily dismiss.
If you really wanted to know God,you would not hesitate to put him to the test, so he could reveal himself to you.
When you really want something,you make every effort possible to get it....
You need ask yourselves,When have you ever made an honest effort to seek God?
The fact is,you don't want to know,and,when you claim you do,you are deceiving yourselves,
As I understand it,that is called Spiritual blindness
Are you looking for Mohammed, Allah, or Zeus? How honest, and diligent is that effort?

“Breaking the spell ”

Since: Dec 10

of the puppet master

#102044 May 2, 2013
Known Fact wrote:
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"curious",
I just wanted to add to your statement---there are over 360 prophecies in the Hebrew Scriptures(Old Testament) that point forward to Jesus and he fulfilled every one of them.
So why do god believing Jews not believe this?
ScienceProves

London, KY

#102045 May 2, 2013
Mike Duquette wrote:
<quoted text>I am sure most fiction novels are based in cities that are real.Does that mean any of the claimed events are real?
I am glad historians do not blindly accept tales just due to the city being real. But thanks for telling us what evidence you require. Why are you not a Muslim?
Stay away from Judea-it's not really there.

Why am I not a Muslim?

Because I don't want to be one, as some of the "traditional" garb has been scientifically declared to contribute to possible deficiancies in vitaman D, which can lead to things like MS.

And, being as I prefer healthy balances, I take issue with the extremist frays of that "organization" as well.

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#102046 May 2, 2013
KittenKoder wrote:
<quoted text>You are purposely ignoring most of what was explained to you just so you can continue to claim there was a "miracle" when nothing out of the ordinary happened.
You weren't there. There is nothing you can explain to me. There is nothing you can educate me on here. It wasn't like we went to a general practitioner. We went to one of the best cancer doctors west of the Mississippi.

“I'll think about it.”

Since: Nov 07

central Florida

#102047 May 2, 2013
Skeptical Spectacles wrote:
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I've gone over this before. I post under no other names. Why are you so fixated on that? You've accused me of posting under several other names in the past. I think at one point you accused me of being everyone who disagrees with you...or close to it.
Are you a conspiracy nut? Do you believe the moon landing was a hoax? Maybe the CIA is controlling your thoughts? Is the New World Order coming to take all your rights away?
Curious also thinks I "may be gary" just because I responded to his post.

Makes me think of the unfaithful husband who accuses his innocent wife of cheating.
Since he is doing it, he thinks everyone is...

I wonder if curious realizes that people who accuse others of doing something without any proof are generally doing that exact thing themselves.

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#102048 May 2, 2013
Yiago wrote:
<quoted text>Show me the money.

Because from what I understand it is passages like this one that you base your belief on:

Gen 3:15 - And I will put enmity between thee and the woman, and between thy seed and her seed; it shall bruise thy head, and thou shalt bruise his heel.(KJV)

I mean, if this is what you call prophesy then your bar is indeed extremely low. This verse says literally NOTHING about the coming of Christ. And when you add up all the verses like it that are called "prophetic" you get a sum of zero.

The Hebrews did believe that the Messiah would come. It is very convenient for Christians to then find Hebrew passages stating their belief in the possibility of a coming Messiah as proof that Christ is that figure.

Imagine I wrote a novel stating that I think there will eventually be born the best novelist in history. Then, years later, some novelist comes along who is extremely popular and out sells most people. Then his fans find my book and claim that he is the fulfillment of my prophecy.

Its the same damn thing.
Please google prophecies of Jesus. Quickly you will see a long list of scripture that was fulfilled. I'm not sure why you think the examples of these prophecies are so general. They are very specific.

I thought you said you had read the Bible?

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#102049 May 2, 2013
ScienceProves wrote:
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Too broad brush paint stroked and compartmentalized for moi lol.
Aren't those contradictory terms? How can something be both too broad and too compartmentalized?

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#102050 May 2, 2013
ScienceProves wrote:
<quoted text>Some people actually think that way though, which I think is sad, rather than funny, because that would be like living life on the end of the strings of puppet masters. Not a very appealing thought, to have to exist in a world based upon the whims of manipulators. especially if they are evil!
Sorry, I don't remember anything from the Cosby schtick show or stand up comedic acting routine...finding that kind thing good for a momentary laugh maybe....bt not much else beyond that, mostly because it's make believe, far from anything real.
That's why it's called comedy.

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#102051 May 2, 2013
Mike Duquette wrote:
<quoted text>So the propaganda tells you that looking for evidence is no way to find god? Of course it does, because it is impossible to find evidence for what does not exist.
That voice you hear is the brainwashing that told you to blindly believe.They are called thoughts.
It isn't propaganda that tells me this. I told you what God's plan was for why we were here, and why there is no proof.
Lets see if you listened. Can you tell me what I said about why we are here?

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#102052 May 2, 2013
Mike Duquette wrote:
<quoted text>If suffering is the only way to be a better person, then I suppose we should start torturing people. Or maybe, just maybe, you are wrong. Do you have the humility to think you just might be wrong?

If god is not causing the miracles, then who or what is causing them? I have asked this several times yet you keep skipping it. Is it the devil?
Sure I can admit I may be wrong. I don't have all the answers. I'm sharing my beliefs.

Well, I believe that God does cause miracles, so if you require a different source, why would you ask me to provide it?

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#102053 May 2, 2013
Mike Duquette wrote:
<quoted text>Seems no one is at that point in their life for the holy ghost to answer, because I have asked many and no one has answers.
If your god does not have good answers, I am inclined to not look to him for answers.
Well, let me look up what the prophets have said on this matter. I'll get back with you.

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