Bible study rules for public schools proposed

There are 136727 comments on the The Courier-Journal story from Feb 10, 2010, titled Bible study rules for public schools proposed. In it, The Courier-Journal reports that:

FRANKFORT, Ky. - The state would create rules for teaching about the Bible in public high schools under a bill filed Monday by three Democratic senators.

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“pervinco per logica”

Since: Feb 12

Eradicate willful ignorance.

#101993 May 1, 2013
If you nutbags would kindly answer my question instead of posting more scripture nobody cares about, it would be great.
curious

Ocoee, FL

#101994 May 1, 2013
_Ummm_ wrote:
If you nutbags would kindly answer my question instead of posting more scripture nobody cares about, it would be great.
I will attempt to answer your question,,,

A wise man can learn more from a fool's question,than a fool will learn from a wise man's answer
curious

Ocoee, FL

#101995 May 1, 2013
_Ummm_ wrote:
You know what... this is just stupid. Completely stupid. I think it's time to clarify positions here. So, please, tell me which of these matches you:
1. Believes there is sufficient evidence to prove God's existence.
2. Does not believe that there is (or does not know if there is) sufficient evidence to prove God's existence, but has absolute faith in God's existence regardless.
3. Does not believe that there is (or does not know if there is) sufficient evidence to prove God's existence.
4. Believes that there is sufficient evidence to disprove God's existence.
These are all encompassing, so there is no need for discussion yet. Please, just give a number.
I am 3.
We have dealt with that question and I have given you the answer
based on what is clearly stated in Scriptures.
You and many others say that you want evidence of God's existence,
and God has provided you a way by which you can attain that evidence, if you really want to know him
God says" If you diligently seek me,you will find me"
God does not say,If you diligently seek me, others will find me.
There is evidence of God"s existence in the natural world,evidence that you refuse to accept.
You are not looking for evidence,you are looking for signs, signs that you will readily dismiss.
If you really wanted to know God,you would not hesitate to put him to the test, so he could reveal himself to you.
When you really want something,you make every effort possible to get it....
You need ask yourselves,When have you ever made an honest effort to seek God?
The fact is,you don't want to know,and,when you claim you do,you are deceiving yourselves,
As I understand it,that is called Spiritual blindness
Known Fact

Kissimmee, FL

#101996 May 1, 2013
curious wrote:
<quoted text>
Let us look at what Jesus claimed about himself,,,,Which no one else ever has claimed about themselves
"Do not think that I have come to abolish the Law or the Prophets; I have not come to abolish them but to fulfill them.
"You search the Scriptures because you think they give you eternal life.... you think that in them you have eternal life; and it is they that bear witness about me,...
If You Believed Moses, You Would Believe Me, for He Wrote of Me
18 The Spirit of the Lord is upon me, because he hath anointed me to preach the gospel to the poor; he hath sent me to heal the brokenhearted, to preach deliverance to the captives, and recovering of sight to the blind, to set at liberty them that are bruised,
19 To preach the acceptable year of the Lord.
20 And he closed the book, and he gave it again to the minister, and sat down. And the eyes of all them that were in the synagogue were fastened on him.
21 And he began to say unto them, THIS DAY,THIS SCRIPTURE IS FULFILLED BEFORE YOUR EYES
The claims he made,were made in the presence of the Pharisees,Saducees, Scribes and Lawyers
At no time,did anyone make any effort to dispute or challenge his claims .
In the Old testament there are over 40 prophecies that point to and were fulfilled by
Christ,regarding his birthplace,his birth,his ministry,that he would be betrayed,crucified and his resurrection,among others.
Not one person,other than Christ,has made the claim to be The Messiah and claim that the Scriptures testify to that fact.
Can you explain how this method of,Ancient Interpretation, when applied to all the prophecies that were fulfilled in Christ, invalidates them, and on what basis are they invalidated.?
"curious",
I just wanted to add to your statement---there are over 360 prophecies in the Hebrew Scriptures(Old Testament) that point forward to Jesus and he fulfilled every one of them.
curious

Ocoee, FL

#101997 May 1, 2013
Skeptical Spectacles wrote:
<quoted text>
You know, you're right. I think my recent exchanges with "curious" have pushed me over an edge.
To the user "ScienceProves", I apologize for repeatedly calling you an idiot. It's not your fault you are the way you are.
I refuse to take credit for pushing you over the edge. You have no one to blame for that,other than yourself.
Your inane reasoning has befuddled your mind.
Therefore,you have chosen the right name for your postings.
A Spectacle you are and rightfully so.
You have made a Spectacle of yourself.......
Wonder if that means making a fool of yourself.....
Could be.
I see you stopped posting under the name LOL in a suit.
One can hide behind a name,ignorance can not be hidden
curious

Ocoee, FL

#101998 May 1, 2013
Known Fact wrote:
<quoted text>
"curious",
I just wanted to add to your statement---there are over 360 prophecies in the Hebrew Scriptures(Old Testament) that point forward to Jesus and he fulfilled every one of them.
Thanks for the information,I knew there were at least 40.
Glad you corrected me
God bless you...
At least,some of us,instead of asking for a sign,have diligently sought God.
In the process,he has revealed to us,his Presence and therefore we believe that Jesus Christ is Lord
gary

Los Angeles, CA

#101999 May 1, 2013
I have not found God yet

“I'll think about it.”

Since: Nov 07

central Florida

#102000 May 1, 2013
gary wrote:
I have not found God yet
I hate to be cliche' but have you looked behind the sofa?
Known Fact

Kissimmee, FL

#102001 May 1, 2013
gary wrote:
I have not found God yet
He is not really lost! Tee Hee :)

“pervinco per logica”

Since: Feb 12

Eradicate willful ignorance.

#102002 May 1, 2013
curious wrote:
<quoted text>
We have dealt with that question and I have given you the answer
based on what is clearly stated in Scriptures.
No, moron. No. I've already told you that this isn't something that requires discussion, and you quoted it. The only valid answer is a number. Otherwise, shut up and don't even pretend like you're answering anything I've asked. You are not.
Known Fact

Kissimmee, FL

#102003 May 1, 2013
There ate two ways to prove God exists:
1. The Bible
2. Creation Romans 1:20
Known Fact

Kissimmee, FL

#102004 May 1, 2013
curious wrote:
<quoted text>
Thanks for the information,I knew there were at least 40.
Glad you corrected me
God bless you...
At least,some of us,instead of asking for a sign,have diligently sought God.
In the process,he has revealed to us,his Presence and therefore we believe that Jesus Christ is Lord
I am sorry I didn't intend to correct you I only added to what you said.
curious

Ocoee, FL

#102005 May 1, 2013
Known Fact wrote:
<quoted text>
I am sorry I didn't intend to correct you I only added to what you said.
Hey,you gave a more detailed answer that that which I gave AND I am glad you did,Therefore,there is no need for an apology,nor was I seeking one.
The fact is that,because of the information you provided me with,
I am now,better informed.
Again,I thank you

Since: Aug 10

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#102006 May 1, 2013
Yiago wrote:
<quoted text>Of course it is not a coincidence. Religion is a result of a pattern-seeking, self-aware animal trying to understand a big scary world in such a was as to keep the herd together and identify enemies.

There are going to be similarities in such schemes.
We aren't talking about the same similarities.

Since: Aug 10

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#102007 May 1, 2013
Yiago wrote:
<quoted text>What you describe as a miracle is called statistics. If 100 people have cancer and 50 of the pray for help while 50 do not then guess what will probably happen? They will die at a rate consistent with statistical data. You will not see a big spike in the survival rate of the people who pray. Yet if you asked any single person who DID pray and who DID survive longer they will probably say that God answered their prayers.

Yet that is like being the one guy who smokes 50 years and does not get cancer waling around saying "Smoking doesn't cause cancer. Look at me!"

It is a misunderstanding of statistics and reality.
Sorry but I disagree

Since: Aug 10

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#102008 May 1, 2013
ScienceProves wrote:
<quoted text>I've heard it said in general, by more than a few before.

I kind of find a lot of error with the statement too though. No one should seriously think they should have that much "control" over another human individual.

A thought at having any parental figure like that, would be cause to recoil!!

(but the Mr Cosby character no doubt, said it tongue and cheek, with best intentions for whom ever it was directed at no doubt, rather than some sort of personal fulfillment of ego)
Right. Which is why it was funny.
Just as his bottom lip wasn't really on the floor (if you remember that reference from his stand up).

Since: Aug 10

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#102009 May 1, 2013
Mike Duquette wrote:
<quoted text>You have no idea what I have tried or not, so quit jumping to conclusions. Sounds like you just are parroting propaganda.
I am asking questions here and you have poor answers. So many are like, well god has his own logic or justice. Sorry, but if you think I must try to forgo the logic in my mind, you are making no sense.
Your god refuses to present himself. It is not logical I should believe in a being that has zero evidence of existence. I have looked for evidence, but none ever comes, yet you claim I do not look for god. Well I say he is not showing himself for me to see.
So you say Muslim doctrine is why you do not believe in Mohammed? Well same goes for me and the bible. It is an unbelievable story with no evidence and concepts that are not moral or logical to me. Same goes for the book of Mormon.
It is not justice to punish someone for not believing in something that has zero evidence. Why would I believe in an unjust god?
God tells us how to find Him. He does not tell us to dig up fossils to find Him. He does not tell us to analyze patterns to find Him. He does not tell us to search for Him in the clouds. He tells us to pray to Him and listen for the still small voice. This must be done with humility and a full intent to act on the answer that you receive.

Since: Aug 10

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#102010 May 1, 2013
Mike Duquette wrote:
<quoted text>So you are telling me the answered prayers are not of gods doings? If it is of gods doings, then you contradicted yourself. If it is not of gods doings, then is it of the devil? Who are you requesting help from?
No one needs someone to die of cancer to be stronger. Sorry, but your excuses are just not cutting it.
No I didn't say answered prayers are not God's going. What? How did you get that?

And no, maybe someone else learned or grew stronger from someone passing. The person that passed is in a better place anyway if they were a believer. And it could be argued that the non-believer is in a better place too.

Since: Aug 10

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#102011 May 1, 2013
Mike Duquette wrote:
<quoted text>You claim to get answers from some holy ghost, yet seem to be short on answers quite a lot.
I think bad things happen to good people because no god is out their who cares or can do a thing about it. You see, that is a square, logical answer. You fail to have them, so why should I believe some magical ghost is helping you answer questions? Maybe you fail to ask the hard questions?
Maybe I'm not at a point in my life where I am ready to receive that answer. I have prayed about this type thing before and felt the peace that the HG brings. He is also called the Comforter. I felt peace knowing the person was in a better place.
However, Jesus told us we can know the mysteries of the kingdom of God, so I continue to better myself and prepare myself so I may learn more. So far, this has proved successful. So if I learn God's purposes in this case, I will share with anyone that will listen or is prepared to listen.

Since: Aug 10

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#102012 May 1, 2013
Mike Duquette wrote:
<quoted text>I have been listing my reasons, but for some reason you cannot understand them. Are you blind to my list?

So now you have a new reason for suffering? So now it is Satan's fault? Guess you believe we are being punished for the crime of Adam and Eve?
Why did your friends kid not suffer the loss of an ear then? Your story has contradictions. Either god can help us not suffer, or he cannot. Either he is unfairly helping some and ignoring others, or he is not.

I agreed to nothing with a god.
Your reasons are that you want proof. I have told you that you won't get it. And I have told you how you can learn for yourself. We can banter forever, but you won't learn anything from me. You have to reach out to God yourself and receive your own answer.

And if I'm right, you did agree to come here. You accepted God's plan.

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