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Bible study rules for public schools proposed

There are 153777 comments on the The Courier-Journal story from Feb 10, 2010, titled Bible study rules for public schools proposed. In it, The Courier-Journal reports that:

FRANKFORT, Ky. - The state would create rules for teaching about the Bible in public high schools under a bill filed Monday by three Democratic senators.

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#101786 Apr 30, 2013
Yiago wrote:
<quoted text>1) You have some shred of reason. Many people do not. If you go around telling people that prayers can cure cancer there are going to be foolish people who will shun medicine and just trust in God. Those people will die. Therefore it is dangerous to make those claims. I have no tolerance for that kind of reckless bullsh*t.

2) You have a title as a magic man. You say words, and sometimes the laws of nature are bent as a result. That is called magic. Name it what you like, rationalize it all day long, but you are calling yourself a wizard who can cast spells.
The difference is magic and spells come from the Satan. Miracles come from God. Magic and spells seem to benefit more of the first person not others.

I believe that God helps those who help themselves. I would never discourage someone from going to a doctor, even with a blessing or prayers. It is still up to us to do everything that we can do within our own power, and then God makes up the difference according to our faith.

“See how you are?”

Since: Jul 12

Earth

#101787 Apr 30, 2013
ScienceProves wrote:
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Beats the ell out of cheezy, velveteenage type wall posters and other media spewed random spooge images!!!
Would you be referring to the >thousand years of artwork that depicts Jesus as a European?

Since: Aug 10

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#101788 Apr 30, 2013
Yiago wrote:
<quoted text>There are certainly no documents describing Jesus Christ from 400 years before the man was born. Come on, that was a typo right?
The entire Old Testament foretells the coming of Jesus Christ. This is also the case of the Dead Sea Scrolls, as most of the books of the Old Testament are found in the Dead Sea Scrolls as well. They go into great detail about what He will be like, what His name shall be called, and the things that He will do. Of course I believe the book of Mormon also foretells of His coming

“See how you are?”

Since: Jul 12

Earth

#101789 Apr 30, 2013
do whut wrote:
<quoted text>There wouldn't have been a Utah, or a Salt Lake City as we know it without Brigham. Like it or not
I haven't stated an opinion on whether I "like it or not." I haven't even stated any opinion on the church of the LDS - except that you have to take their genealogical records with a grain of salt and double check them thoroughly.(No Pilgrims were born in 1612 in Massachusetts.)
do whut wrote:
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It really doesn't matter if he was governor, he as prophet, dictated the focus of most of the efforts of church members at that time. They were incredibly hard working. They turned a desert into a farmland in a short amount of time and made Utah a nice area to live. They helped settle Idaho, Utah, and New Mexico, all under the direction of Brigham.
No need to be defensive about it.
I don't poo-poo the arduous accomplishments of Young or of any of the pioneers. Because of persecution and violence, the early Mormons LEFT the U.S. Perfectly understandable. I SAID that the LDS was Young's church and that Deseret was his country.

You say Brigham, I say Young....
I'm not on a first name familiarity with someone I've never met. I haven't seen you refer to the founding fathers as Benjamin, George, Thomas, John, Samuel, Paul... Is that your bias I see peeking through?(OK, now you can be defensive.)

“See how you are?”

Since: Jul 12

Earth

#101790 Apr 30, 2013
do whut wrote:
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The entire Old Testament foretells the coming of Jesus Christ. This is also the case of the Dead Sea Scrolls, as most of the books of the Old Testament are found in the Dead Sea Scrolls as well. They go into great detail about what He will be like, what His name shall be called, and the things that He will do. Of course I believe the book of Mormon also foretells of His coming
And the Old Testament relays an entire speech that Jonah gave to God from the inside of a fish. No scribes, no film crews. Les Stroud, Bear Grills - eat yer hearts out.

“See how you are?”

Since: Jul 12

Earth

#101792 Apr 30, 2013
KittenKoder wrote:
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So you're basically saying that there wouldn't be a Washington state if there was no chief Seattle.
No, he's basically saying that Utah wouldn't have been the same without Brigham Young in the same manner as Pennsylvania wouldn't have been the same without William Penn and Rhode Island wouldn't have been the same without Roger Williams. It's a horn blowing non-issue.
curious

Winter Garden, FL

#101793 Apr 30, 2013
Mike Duquette wrote:
<quoted text>Wheather you say it or not makes it no less true. Their is zero evidence a god exists, a holy ghost speaks to people, that Jesus was a deity, that Moses or Brigham was a prophet, or that most of the claims of the bible ever occurred.
That is your opinion,based on a lack of information.
Those of us who believe,did not do so,because we wanted to believe.

We tested the teachings contained in the Bible and found them to be accurate and truthful.
That is how we came by our faith.
Obviously,you have not done so.

By not having done so,makes you illequipped to pass judgement on something you do not understand.
If you want evidence of God's existence,then follow his instructions as to how you may come to know him.
If you want evidence that there is a Holy Spirit,and how God uses the Holy Spirit to communicate with those who believe in him,read the scriptures and apply it's teachings.
The blueprint for achieving those objectives is clearly laid out...
Don't blame the One who made the blueprint,for not giving you the results that you claim are non existent,blame yourself,for not following the instructions contained in the blueprint

“See how you are?”

Since: Jul 12

Earth

#101794 Apr 30, 2013
curious wrote:
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That is your opinion,based on a lack of information.
Those of us who believe,did not do so,because we wanted to believe.
We tested the teachings contained in the Bible and found them to be accurate and truthful.
That is how we came by our faith.
Obviously,you have not done so.
By not having done so,makes you illequipped to pass judgement on something you do not understand.
If you want evidence of God's existence,then follow his instructions as to how you may come to know him.
If you want evidence that there is a Holy Spirit,and how God uses the Holy Spirit to communicate with those who believe in him,read the scriptures and apply it's teachings.
The blueprint for achieving those objectives is clearly laid out...
Don't blame the One who made the blueprint,for not giving you the results that you claim are non existent,blame yourself,for not following the instructions contained in the blueprint
You've looked over the top third of the tires and have convinced yourself beyond a doubt that the True definitive conclusion is that you can faithfully believe that they are not flat on the bottom. Hallelujahgonnadriveforeternit ywithJesusandtheBibleAmen.
Carry on, curious.
lumpwhump lumpwhump lumpwhump....

“There is no god.”

Since: Jan 12

USA

#101795 Apr 30, 2013
Brain(lump) holyhatebible(whump), a truth has been revealed.

“There is no god.”

Since: Jan 12

USA

#101796 Apr 30, 2013
do whut wrote:
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Thanks again for reminding me I'm nothing like you
Lets be truthful, you're an idiot and it's obvious.
Your holyhatebible should be no where near public schools........respect a religie.......not gonna happen........ Remember......
curious

Winter Garden, FL

#101797 Apr 30, 2013
ChromiuMan wrote:
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You've looked over the top third of the tires and have convinced yourself beyond a doubt that the True definitive conclusion is that you can faithfully believe that they are not flat on the bottom. Hallelujahgonnadriveforeternit ywithJesusandtheBibleAmen.
Carry on, curious.
lumpwhump lumpwhump lumpwhump....
Well,I imagine that,when one uses facts to buttress his beliefs,
those who do not agree with those beliefs, unable to refute those facts,would have to say something,like blaming it on flat tires.

When a wise man speaks,it is because he has something to say,When a fool speaks,it is because he has to say something

“There is no god.”

Since: Jan 12

USA

#101798 Apr 30, 2013
"1. If Hell is expanding at a slower rate than the rate at which souls enter Hell, then the temperature and pressure in Hell will increase untill all Hell breaks loose.

2. If Hell is expanding at a rate faster than the increase of souls in Hell, then the temperature and pressure will drop untill Hell freezes over."

Since: Aug 10

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#101799 Apr 30, 2013
curious wrote:
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That is your opinion,based on a lack of information.
For once, I agree with you. It is based on a lack of information. And by information I mean evidence.
curious wrote:
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...
We tested the teachings contained in the Bible and found them to be accurate and truthful.
Your "tests" were not objective. You've dismissed other logical explanations for the results of your "tests" in favor of what you desired. You deny it, but anyone with an ounce of reason in their tool box can see your arguments for what they are.
curious wrote:
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...
Obviously,you have not done so.
That's a pretty bold statement. How did you arrive at that conclusion?
curious wrote:
<quoted text>
By not having done so,makes you illequipped to pass judgement on something you do not understand.
I've told you this before. Just because people don't agree with you doesn't mean they don't understand your position. Why is that so hard for you to get?
curious

Winter Garden, FL

#101800 Apr 30, 2013
LOL in a suit wrote:
Brain(lump) holyhatebible(whump), a truth has been revealed.
When a wise man speaks,it is because he has something to say,

When a fool speaks,it is because he has to say something

When an idiot speaks,it is because he has to say something and expresses himself based on his very limited vocabulay,,,,Gibberish and baby talk.
As they used to say in the old days;
When I want any S-ht from you,I'll squeeze your head

“There is no god.”

Since: Jan 12

USA

#101801 Apr 30, 2013
Poor little religies, pray to god for me to stop, it will not work, there is no super head nut, just little clueless religie ones.

Why do religies keep reading my post, easy, their idiots that hate the truth. I state a fact and they, well, they thank me. Lmao.

“There is no god.”

Since: Jan 12

USA

#101802 Apr 30, 2013
"Like all religions, the Holy Religion of the Invisible Pink Unicorn is based upon both Logic and Faith. We have Faith that She is Pink; and we Logically know that She is Invisible, because we can't see Her."

“I'll think about it.”

Since: Nov 07

central Florida

#101803 Apr 30, 2013
do whut wrote:
<quoted text>
The difference is magic and spells come from the Satan. Miracles come from God. Magic and spells seem to benefit more of the first person not others.
I believe that God helps those who help themselves. I would never discourage someone from going to a doctor, even with a blessing or prayers. It is still up to us to do everything that we can do within our own power, and then God makes up the difference according to our faith.
Yahweh is a mathematician?
Personal power < sufficient + Yahweh power (- insufficient personal power)= miracle?
(Please forgive me, all you real mathematicians)

Magic spells bend the laws of reality.
Miracles bend the laws of reality.
There is no difference and both are imaginary.

"Magic and spells seem to benefit more of the first person not others."
So you are saying a "miracle" benefits only those NOT asking for one?
Come on... Religious people pray for miracles for themselves constantly.

You know, if those who "helps themselves" actually help themselves, there is no need for a god's help.
Religion requires a person to believe they are weak and helpless.
It preys on the insecure, the needy, the frightened.
But instead of encouraging confidence and courage, it offers a crutch.
Religion poisons everything.

“I'll think about it.”

Since: Nov 07

central Florida

#101804 Apr 30, 2013
LOL in a suit wrote:
"Like all religions, the Holy Religion of the Invisible Pink Unicorn is based upon both Logic and Faith. We have Faith that She is Pink; and we Logically know that She is Invisible, because we can't see Her."
I adore the IPU. She is watching over my shoulder as I am typing.
She says that later today we are going to fly to Mars where She will leave a pile of glittered poop for scientists to eventually find to confirm Her existance.
And they will declare "It's a miracle! She IS real!"

IPU believers everywhere will smile, nod and whisper "I told you so."
;)

“See how you are?”

Since: Jul 12

Earth

#101805 Apr 30, 2013
curious wrote:
<quoted text>
Well,I imagine that,when one uses facts to buttress his beliefs,
those who do not agree with those beliefs, unable to refute those facts,would have to say something,like blaming it on flat tires.
When a wise man speaks,it is because he has something to say,When a fool speaks,it is because he has to say something
And we are still waiting for you to have something to say.
Imagine this: The Earth is over 4 billion years old. It is a small planet circling a medium sized middle aged 3rd generation star in an obscure part of a medium sized galaxy that contains 300,000,000,000 other stars. In the observable universe alone, there are probably 100,000,000,000 other galaxies.
Now, you wish us to have faith (that is to imagine and believe) that a deity who created all of this and vastly, vastly more over 13 billion years ago, recently created humans in 'his' image and has spent the last 6,000 years doting over a family of sheep herders (which is STILL basically all we are) and that he speaks to you through characters printed on sheets of pulverized plant fibers and possibly a sort of psychic connection that is indistinguishable from a psychiatric disorder.
Oh, I'm sorry - were you saying something I needed to take seriously?
curious

Winter Garden, FL

#101806 Apr 30, 2013
Skeptical Spectacles wrote:
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For once, I agree with you. It is based on a lack of information. And by information I mean evidence.
<quoted text>
Your "tests" were not objective. You've dismissed other logical explanations for the results of your "tests" in favor of what you desired. You deny it, but anyone with an ounce of reason in their tool box can see your arguments for what they are.
<quoted text>
That's a pretty bold statement. How did you arrive at that conclusion?
<quoted text>
I've told you this before. Just because people don't agree with you doesn't mean they don't understand your position. Why is that so hard for you to get?
You wrote
For once, I agree with you. It is based on a lack of information. And by information I mean evidence.
curious wrote:
<quoted text>
...
We tested the teachings contained in the Bible and found them to be accurate and truthful.

B)Your "tests" were not objective. You've dismissed other logical explanations for the results of your "tests" in favor of what you desired. You deny it, but anyone with an ounce of reason in their tool box can see your arguments for what they are.

A)That you do not understand is very evident in your responses.
I tested the teachings that I read.Did as they instructed me to do.
I received the desired results,exactly as the teachings said that I would.

This did not happen just once,it happened on a number of occassions, extended over a period of time.
Thereby,I came to believe and trust in God and Jesus Christ.
The evidence was plain for me to see.

The reasons why I dismissed your so called logical explanations,were plainly addressed in what I posted...

If you have a problem with the reasons I gave, and that they are not valid,THEN,address them and explain why,in your view they are valid.

Address each specific point,based on facts,not on your still misguided opinion.

Prove to me,based on facts,how,by using your Scientific based techniques,I would have been able to acquire the same results as I received based on following the teachings of Scriptures.

I do not believe ,that either you,or Science,can duplicate the results.
I already mentioned that in what I posted.
THAT,again,is the REASON why I dismissed your illogical explanatios

curious wrote:
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Obviously,you have not done so.

YOU WROTE
That's a pretty bold statement. How did you arrive at that conclusion?

C)) I arrived at that conclusion,based on the fact,that,even though,you had the opportunity to do so, none of you have stated that you have put into practice the teachings of the Bible and that they failed you..

You might state that now,as a way of covering your behinds,but when it was relevant,the thought never occurred to you,because there was no basis for you to think that way .

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