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Bible study rules for public schools proposed

There are 142409 comments on the The Courier-Journal story from Feb 10, 2010, titled Bible study rules for public schools proposed. In it, The Courier-Journal reports that:

FRANKFORT, Ky. - The state would create rules for teaching about the Bible in public high schools under a bill filed Monday by three Democratic senators.

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#101627 Apr 28, 2013
Spaceship earth wrote:
<quoted text>One can then just believe without joining any church according to your answer. Christians that commit horrendous crimes will then be with God too. That may cause some Christians to think crime is no big deal.
Oh no. You apparently have not been reading. One must do more than just believe. Faith without works is dead.

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#101628 Apr 28, 2013
LEGIONS wrote:
<quoted text>I must say I have to admire your patience!
LOL

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#101629 Apr 28, 2013
Yiago wrote:
<quoted text>This is an aside, but proving that Jesus lived and was influential does not offer any support for the claim that he was divine or rose from the dead.

I'm sort of agnostic on the historicity of Jesus personally. I don't see much compelling reason to believe or disbelieve that such a person lived.

Its the magic parts that I find unbelievable.
Too many references about Him from different sources for me to not believe He lived. But I believe He is the Son of God because I asked in prayer and received an answer from the Holy Ghost. Other than that, I have no proof. Only faith.

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#101630 Apr 28, 2013
Spaceship earth wrote:
<quoted text>I like the way you debate without resorting to tons of scripture to support your views. You are among the few Christians who debate well and defend your faith without coming unglued.

Do you train members of your church to prepare them for their two year ministry?
Well besides normal Sunday and Wednesday activities that they don't really pay attention to, we try to have a family night once a week.
Then if they decide to go on a mission, they go off to the Missionary Training Center (MTC) to learn what to do and what not to do, as well as start learning the foreign language they will be using if they go somewhere non-native for them. So it could be 2 weeks to 6 weeks depending on the language.

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#101631 Apr 28, 2013
Known Fact wrote:
<quoted text>I'm still waiting for you to tell us---who decides what is translated correctly and what is not! As far as the trinitarian belief it started with Roman Emporer Constintine in about 300 AD and cannot be supported by the Bible.
Would you like to list the books that have been taken out of what should be included in the canon? And please don't tell me one of them is the book of Moses---I've already been there!
Have you ever googled the books that are mentioned in the Bible that we no longer have access to? It's a shame we don't have all those.
I think it's like 31

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#101632 Apr 28, 2013
Quantummist wrote:
<quoted text>Oh, like Donkey Gong?
Not exactly.

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#101633 Apr 28, 2013
Known Fact wrote:
<quoted text>I'm still waiting for you to tell us---who decides what is translated correctly and what is not! As far as the trinitarian belief it started with Roman Emporer Constintine in about 300 AD and cannot be supported by the Bible.
Would you like to list the books that have been taken out of what should be included in the canon? And please don't tell me one of them is the book of Moses---I've already been there!
Oh and I agree with you about the Trinity.

Only the Holy Ghost can tell us what had been translated correctly. And yes I believe a prophet would have the ability to correct the errors. Joseph Smith began this work but did not finish it.
Taking a poll

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#101634 Apr 28, 2013
Are we still on target for the rapture???

“I Luv Carbon Dioxide”

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#101635 Apr 29, 2013
KittenKoder wrote:
Yes, so they can see what kind of smut you all worship and avoid your religion like the plague.
So they can understand their culture and literature.

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#101637 Apr 29, 2013
do whut wrote:
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I disagree that faith and reason are mutually exclusive.
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But I have never denied that I have faith rather than proof of anything.
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That pretty much defines why faith and reason are mutually exclusive.
Accepting something as factual despite there being no evidence in support of it is unreasonable.
Dismustmean

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#101638 Apr 29, 2013
LOL in a suit wrote:
Yes nothing as far as we know lasts forever, interesting subject black holes are. Thank you for your time. If you don't mind answering one more question. I would like to ask, do you think the big bang was a singular event?
“You could buy an island and call it ‘Nobama’ for that money. Sheldon would have been better off offering me $100 million to drop out of the race,” Obama laughed.“I probably wouldn’t have taken it, but I’d have thought about it.”

As for how the past four years had aged him at 51, Obama joked,“I’m not the strapping young Muslim Socialist I used to be.”....

"Love, hate and jokes: Obama ribs media at correspondents' dinner" NBCNews. Web. 5/29/2013

According to duh ghetto level Mentality, this gotter mean Opotus isn't one pof them there hatefurl Cwistians?
Dismustmean

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#101639 Apr 29, 2013
Satanic Priest wrote:
<quoted text>I know the bible better than you do, hence my bible verse posting showing you to be a liar.
Your con job to say "you dont understand" is bullshit, I understand and post the truth which catches your lies.
If this is not so than why do you push your poison so hard?
Extremism is what propagates terrorism-and you're assumption that you know the Bible "better" than anyone else, is bordering on it.

In Pakistan, a courageous and noble man, Shahbaz Bhatti, is gunned down by Islamic zealots who cry out "Allah akbar!" He was Pakistan's sole Christian member of parliament. His crime: speaking his mind about a blasphemy law that is an affront to human dignity.

In newly "liberated" Egypt, a mob of Muslims attacked a Christian Coptic church and set it on fire. The parish priest and three deacons may have died in the blaze. The perpetrators yelled "Allah akbar!"

In Iraq, Christians are being terrorized and pressured to leave by Islamic zealots. This ethnic cleansing is done to the chorus of "Allah akbar!"
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Let's breakdown the thougght process of RADICAL(ization)
Islamic claim:

'Allah' is simply the Arab word for 'God.'

Reality:

'God' in Arabic is translated 'ilah,' not 'Allah.'
Akbar. Allah is not the generic word for 'god' in Arabic, but the name of Islam's deity

Islamic claim:

'Akbar' means 'great.'

Reality:

'Akbar' in English is translated 'greater,' not 'great.'

&#1603;&#1576;&#16 10;&#1585; (kebir)= Great

&#1571;&#1603;&#15 76;&#1585; (Akbar)= Greater

Therefore, the correct translation is "Islam is "greater".

Therefore, since "Extremism is what propagates terrorism-and you're assumming that you know the Bible "better" than anyone else"...you are walking a fine line of bordering on it.
TruthIs

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#101640 Apr 29, 2013
Satanic Priest wrote:
<quoted text>I had an open mind for decades, decades of seeing con men collect money, seeing con men say the bible says blah blah blah to collect money, seeing the members of every church look down their nose at other people and worship social status and wealth, seeing youth ministers getting 14 year old girls pregnant and leaving town seeing preachers driving expensive cars and telling others to give their money away, seeing the same preachers leaving town in the middle of the night because the father of the 12 year old he was raping had a gun, decades of seeing what the christian cult is really about.
So you elevate yourself, defame others, spew lies, and watch as your cult loses members every day, watch as educated people flee your poisoned cult and beg to force your cult on to innocent children.
Soon your cult will be no more, we already out number you and we will protect our children from you.
You SHALL NOT come near our children
The realty of some of the "funding funneling" in this world that you DON'T see, would really pop your noggin' then!
TruthIs

London, KY

#101641 Apr 29, 2013
do whut wrote:
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Thank you
You think allowing for duhming down resulting in rampant blind ignorance is better?

“Breaking the spell ”

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#101642 Apr 29, 2013
do whut wrote:
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You mention AIDS. How did it begin to afflict man? And how did it spread rapidly?
I spread rapidly in part due to president Reagan ignoring it due to the false idea it was a homosexual only problem.
Also if homosexuals were allowed to marry they would be more likely to be in monogamous relationships. Thus it would be spread less quickly.
Either way, let god off the hook for doing nothing is akin to watching a drowning baby and doing nothing. If you have the power to do something and you do nothing, then you are part of the problem, not part of the solution.
So what of malaria, MS and cancer? The list is long and help from god is short. You claim he helped some kid with an ear, yet billions suffer of these incurable afflictions. Sorry but that just does not sound fair. So if god is not fair, it stands to reason the god is not even real as god is claimed to be so darn good.
This is how my logic works, and I cannot just forgo that.
TruthIs

London, KY

#101643 Apr 29, 2013
Skeptical Spectacles wrote:
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That pretty much defines why faith and reason are mutually exclusive.
Accepting something as factual despite there being no evidence in support of it is unreasonable.
Are you saying just because we might not see something, doesn't mean it isn't happening?

That doesn't make any reasonable sense at all.

CONtrary much?
TruthIs

London, KY

#101644 Apr 29, 2013
Skeptical Spectacles wrote:
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That pretty much defines why faith and reason are mutually exclusive.
Accepting something as factual despite there being no evidence in support of it is unreasonable.
But then again-I guess that's what you saying too (after reading the REST of storweepost lol)

Edit--Anything else would be CONtrary!
TruthIs

London, KY

#101645 Apr 29, 2013
Brian_G wrote:
<quoted text>So they can understand their culture and literature.
BINGO.

Nail right on the nailhead.

Enlightenment is a FAR better state, than the ignorance of intellectual bankruptsy.

“Breaking the spell ”

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#101646 Apr 29, 2013
do whut wrote:
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I gave you my opinion on that topic. Was it not clear?
On that, you were pretty clear.
But again my problem is, I cannot forgo my logic. I think prophets for over a hundred years ignoring the black question is not a reasonable, plausible possibility. It seems to me no holy ghost is speaking to anyone.
As I keep asking you have yet to answer, just what plausible reason have you to explain why so many Christians are getting different ideas from this holy ghost? Is this ghost that poor at consistency?
You see how my logic does not get past this? It is not about pride, unless you think logic is pride.

“Breaking the spell ”

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#101647 Apr 29, 2013
do whut wrote:
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As He said it to people in person that did believe. Yeah that makes sense.
Not sure why it matters who he said it to? Fact is, this is what someone needs to say in order for the masses to believe things that are fake. Note all the religions that you think are fake. They use the same sort of propaganda techniques. Coincidence?

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