Bible study rules for public schools proposed

Feb 10, 2010 Full story: The Courier-Journal 131,467

FRANKFORT, Ky. - The state would create rules for teaching about the Bible in public high schools under a bill filed Monday by three Democratic senators.

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“See how you are?”

Since: Jul 12

Earth

#101450 Apr 28, 2013
Wrong again Sparky wrote:
<quoted text>Hmmmm!
I did guess wrong!
I traded my Atari for the TRS 80, I went from Commodore 64 to an IBM 36-37 programming for an Ins. co. After that I owned my own business selling computers to cities, and schools!
Now I re-mod homes...
Those "fishmongers and sheep herders" had it way better that we do today!
They "Lived" their lives free from the Garbage we have today!
The "good ol' days" never existed. As far as debasing yourself before sheets of dried reed pulp, you know what they say... GIGO.

Since: Aug 10

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#101451 Apr 28, 2013
KittenKoder wrote:
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...
Even wounds we saw happen are often misrepresented in the memory, many events are, actually. As time goes on, the longer you live, the less likely you are to remember any specific event and the greater the chances of you remembering them incorrectly....
Radiolab had a great show (which ones aren't great?) on memory a few years back.
http://www.radiolab.org/2007/jun/07/

to download the podcast:
http://www.podtrac.com/pts/redirect.mp3/audio...

Fascinating stuff.
Ye of lil Understanding

Richmond, KY

#101452 Apr 28, 2013
I am waiting wrote:
<quoted text>
And everyones right to thought, freedom of expression, and opinion end, when you post your stupidity?
Now, now...
He has the right to post all the "Stupid" stuff he wants to!
Post on SP... Prove to us, just how stupid you are!
Wrong again Sparky

Richmond, KY

#101453 Apr 28, 2013
Satanic Priest wrote:
The christian cult's morals are that they do not kill or steal because their god is watching but they rape children because the bible does not say they can not do that
You are the nastiest poster on topix... that is no doubt!
And you say we have no morals?
Keep on posting...
You prove God, and the Bible to be true with EVERY post!
Thanks again!
Yes and Amen

Richmond, KY

#101454 Apr 28, 2013
curious wrote:
<quoted text>
This "Imaginary Friend ,as you call him,is my Best Friend.
This Imaginary Friend has helped me resolve some Real life problems
that I've had to face when no one else was able to help me
But ,that is what Best Frieds are for..
This Imaginary Friend has also made me become very aware of the many faults I posses,has helped me deal with them and has given me a Peace of mind that I had never experienced before.
As he said" My Peace I leave with You,not as the world knows it"
He has been my Friend and advisor.
The only payment he requires is that I be obedient to his teachings,which have proven themselves to be excellent.
let me ask you ;
Do you have a friend that you can compare to my "Imaginary Friend"?
Amen! Thank you Jesus!
You are Far from imaginary!
Yes and Amen

Richmond, KY

#101455 Apr 28, 2013
Quantummist wrote:
Awwwe! So cute!
Love those eyes!

“See how you are?”

Since: Jul 12

Earth

#101456 Apr 28, 2013
Ye of lil Understanding wrote:
<quoted text>No!
Over yer head...
God's Grace let him live to find him, as you live...
Make yourself right with the Lord... OUR end comes soon!
Not over my head. You make the claim that a guy was spared by God for a few months so that he could make peace with God. People live and they die - what their religious status is at the time makes no difference whatsoever. Your fantasy fails. It was not worth acknowledging then, and is only worth a mention now to illuminate the glaring fallacy in your (loosely called) "train of thought".
Yes and Amen

Richmond, KY

#101457 Apr 28, 2013
Yiago wrote:
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You know, most Christians are not gay bashers. Its just that the ones who do it are loud and stupid.
According to Gallup, the acceptance of homosexual relationships as normal is over 54% now. Among the younger generation, born in 2000 or after, it is way over 70% or 80%.
If Christianity is going to survive it is going to have to ditch some of these hateful old ideas about human sexuality. Do you remember that insane preacher last year that said we should put gay men behind a fence and lesbians behind another fence? What an idiot. Then there was another pastor who said the government should kill homosexuals, according to the Bible.
Knuckle dragging goofheads like that need to go away. And they will, in time. I'm sure we'll always have some minority of total a**hats but on the whole it is getting better.
It is good that you think this way. It is good that you are not one of the nutters calling for gays to be killed or imprisoned.
"According to Gallup, the acceptance of homosexual relationships as normal is over 54% now. Among the younger generation, born in 2000 or after, it is way over 70% or 80%."
Now That's "Indoctrination"!

Since: Aug 10

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#101458 Apr 28, 2013
KittenKoder wrote:
<quoted text>Wow, you really didn't even pay attention anything I explained at all, you just want this to be a miracle so much you are willing to avoid all possible answers just so you can still tell yourself it is a miracle. Here are a few facts that should shed some light onto things, but I doubt you will even understand why they happen:

99% of all wounds are unknown to the person, even scratches and cuts will often never be noticed by the living organism, including humans. Even cuts in areas we commonly look at go unnoticed, such as on the hands. Often they heal, even scar, without us ever noticing until one day we notice a small scar of one and can't recall ever getting hurt there.

Most wounds that are "stitched" up by doctors do not actually require stitches, it's a precaution actually, to help reduce the risk of infection ... at least that's what they once thought. Turns out stitches are responsible for more infections than without, thus now doctors prefer to use the medical tape in place of stitches today, or staples if the wound is unable to remain closed with tape.

Even wounds we saw happen are often misrepresented in the memory, many events are, actually. As time goes on, the longer you live, the less likely you are to remember any specific event and the greater the chances of you remembering them incorrectly. This is a compression algorithm employed by the brain itself, so everyone will have this happen. When an event matches another close enough, instead of recording the new event, the brain simply alters some details with the old event to blend the two. A very well known, and understood, phenomenon. Technically, most senility is caused by boredom.

..... that's just a small portion of the facts your "miracle" ignores, a very small portion.
No you're right, I don't understand the relevance of this to the story I relayed.
Stitches or no stitches, wounds that bad do not heal that quickly.
And you're talking about the human brain forgetting the details over a long period of time. I'm talking 18 hours.

It isn't that I just want it to be a miracle so bad. It is that you cannot accept what happened and are trying to convince me that it didn't.

Since: Aug 10

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#101459 Apr 28, 2013
KittenKoder wrote:
<quoted text>A child's story based on their memory of the event, assuming they are even being honest and not trying to get attention from adults since I know the Mormons hate actually listening to them ... ironically a crayon drawing from a child would be more reliable, but I gave you a small increase in the quality of the evidence you presented. Then you just ran with assumptions without ever actually looking into it or simply doing what any rational mind would. You considered it a miracle just because you wanted it to be.
Mormons hate listening to children? Please justify this absurd comment.

And no, I am not just going off of the child's story. I am looking at all the evidence. The father's story, the mother's story, the blood on the carpet and clothes of the father and son, the scar on the ear that still has a blood stain around it, the EMT that arrived at the scene minutes later, and the child's story of what happened all tell the story in harmony with each other. Where are my assumptions?

Since: Aug 10

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#101460 Apr 28, 2013
Quantummist wrote:
<quoted text>They have never stopped evolving... even human have Never stopped evolving... Just a few hundred years ago the Average human was several inches shorter than the Average human today... Our genetic makeup has been altered by our own technological advancements and ability to mix with previously separated populations.. But we as a species have lived in a fairly stable eco system for 1000's of years so change is very slow because environmental pressures do not force faster adaptations.. But placed in a Drastically different environment that rate of change speeds up Dramatically.. For example when humans are placed in space under zero G our bodies drop calcium very fast and muscle mass deteriorates.. Not that's not a problem except that you have to come back to earth and such adaptation could kill you if allowed to continue.. but place a small group of humans in space for several generations and the offspring might not even be recognizable as Human Being...
What is the purpose of us growing taller today? Basketball? To reach things on the tallest shelf?

Since: Aug 10

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#101461 Apr 28, 2013
Yiago wrote:
<quoted text>Oh man, that's great! And it is SOOO in keeping with the way the LDS works in the first place. Hide the bits you don't want to look at, focus on the stuff you do want to look at, and pretend it is something that it clearly is not!

Ladies and gentlemen, I give you Joseph Smith and his Amazing Hat Trick. For 10% of everything you earn we will teach it to you.
Tithing is a concept older that Abraham. You can't pin that one on Smith.

Since: Aug 10

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#101462 Apr 28, 2013
Yiago wrote:
<quoted text>Dude, my kid FREAKS OUT over a bug bite. If he sees blood he goes into fits. Why is it impossible to you that this was a case of a much less significant wound that bled a lot and a whole lot of people freaked out by it?

In retrospect we can paint events in just about any light we want. In controlled studies people show that they have terrible memories or that their ability to notice things is not very good. Check this one out:

http://bigthink.com/videos/missing-the-200-po...

If people can miss the gorilla in the video or the woman with the umbrella then why do you think the ear situation was reported accurately? Our brains are amazing machines but we have a much higher opinion of our memory and ability to evaluate situations than we should have.

We reject your miracle because all evidence and reason screams that it is not what you think it is. Why would I ignore this fact and put faith in your idea? If my best friend told me a similar story I would not think it was a miracle. I would think he misread the whole event.
The kid didn't freak over the ear dangling. He couldn't see that. He freaked over all the blood. The father and the mother both saw the condition of the ear in plain daylight. The ear was held on by the part closest to the lobe. The top of the ear was dangling upside down below the lobe. No way to see that incorrectly and say it isn't as bad as it seems. The wound was significant as it was near complete amputation.
TruthIs

London, KY

#101463 Apr 28, 2013
Quantummist wrote:
<quoted text>
If Chihuahua's evolved from Wolves why do we still have Wolves?
Good question. Why have some wolves "evolved" to chihuahua's while others have not. Chinese bonsai methods would not be applicable, as human intervention would not constitute natural evolution.

So your answer is?
TruthIs

London, KY

#101464 Apr 28, 2013
-NEPHILIM- wrote:
<quoted text>
I've smoked Hindu Kush before. One of the better Indica strains out there. It's an amazing plant.
Short growing season at exceptional southern regional elevations, in the lands perhaps.
TruthIs

London, KY

#101465 Apr 28, 2013
Prefers the sons going to schools, where there's some actual beneficial educational diversity in instruction happening, for future societal well being.

It helps when it comes to reading books, like the Bible, and whatever other books may be essential in future developement of intelligence and characters of decency.

“pervinco per logica”

Since: Feb 12

Eradicate willful ignorance.

#101466 Apr 28, 2013
do whut wrote:
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Right, because the boy screaming in pain and freaking at the sight of blood could have been an illusion. All of that pain equates to his dad fooling him like pulling a penny out of his ear.
Haha. Whatever. You say 1 witness is enough, then try your best to discount 3 witnesses.
Proof, evidence, whatever you want to call it, it is convincing enough to me, as it would be to any one of you that had this happen to a close friend of yours that you have always trusted as an honest person, as well as their spouse.
You all claim that miracles aren't possible because they are always a coincidence. I give you a good example of one that could not be coincidence, and you all treat me as if I am a fool. Thanks for fulfilling scripture.
Thanks for allowing my "penny in the ear" analogy to gracefully whoosh over your head. I wasn't making comparisons to the kid in the story. Maybe you'll figure it out now.

Also, it's highly insulting to act as though others would have the same low standard of proof as you do. There is literally no way that I would believe such garbage. Believe me, I have been told more than one thing that is of this magnitude, and I believed none of it. I totally believed that the other person believed what they were telling me, though.

I will note that it must be convenient to be able to say "thanks for fulfilling scripture" and think you "got" somebody. Too bad you apparently don't realize that much of scripture was written to combat skepticism and logic.
Brian_G wrote:
Being educated means understanding the bible too.
Understanding the Bible means not believing it.
Yiago wrote:
<quoted text>
I'm enjoying your posts. Keep it up!
Thank you.
harpocrates wrote:
<quoted text>an apologist is anyone who defends something. try being honest in the future.
They are being totally honest in this context. It should be VERY clear to you that nobody is talking about science here.
Yes and Amen wrote:
<quoted text>"According to Gallup, the acceptance of homosexual relationships as normal is over 54% now. Among the younger generation, born in 2000 or after, it is way over 70% or 80%."
Now That's "Indoctrination"!
What a pile of trash you are. That is the product of FEWER being "indoctrinated" into your hateful religion, and others like it, and MORE being allowed to see that all people should be afforded the same rights. Now that's progress and an improvement to our society.
do whut wrote:
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What is the purpose of us growing taller today? Basketball? To reach things on the tallest shelf?
Why don't you understand evolution? And why don't you understand the difference between evolution and diet/medicine/environmental contaminants.
TruthIs wrote:
<quoted text>
Good question. Why have some wolves "evolved" to chihuahua's while others have not. Chinese bonsai methods would not be applicable, as human intervention would not constitute natural evolution.
So your answer is?
Yours is not a good question. The process is NO different. The only difference is what causes more frequent transmittal of certain traits. In natural selection it is the environment. Here it is people. Not difficult.
TruthIs wrote:
Prefers the sons going to schools, where there's some actual beneficial educational diversity in instruction happening, for future societal well being.
It helps when it comes to reading books, like the Bible, and whatever other books may be essential in future developement of intelligence and characters of decency.
I can't tell if you're trolling. Really.
TruthIs

London, KY

#101467 Apr 28, 2013
Yiago wrote:
<quoted text>
My wife.
Also my best friend.
Also a few other good friends.
And they are all real. I watched a movie with one of them the other day. We drank some terrible beer.
That'll make the pores of your skin emit stinky stenches....
TruthIs

London, KY

#101468 Apr 28, 2013
do whut wrote:
<quoted text>
Tithing is a concept older that Abraham. You can't pin that one on Smith.
It's probably how the Boston bomber got a visa to "visit" Russia in 012 too, after being put on a terrorist watch list in 011.
TruthIs

London, KY

#101470 Apr 28, 2013
_Ummm_ wrote:
<quoted text>
I can't tell if you're trolling. Really.
I'm not posting from a fishing boat.

Is that better?

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