Bible study rules for public schools proposed

Feb 10, 2010 Full story: The Courier-Journal 132,254

FRANKFORT, Ky. - The state would create rules for teaching about the Bible in public high schools under a bill filed Monday by three Democratic senators.

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#101526 Apr 28, 2013
Mike Duquette wrote:
<quoted text>Well I did ask before and you answered that it was not a ghost putting thoughts in your head. Now you tell me it is essentially a ghost putting thoughts in your head.
But thanks for answering a bit more clearly this time, even though you do not get very detailed, like telling us just what sort of physical touch you felt. Seems to me if you really felt something, you should be able to describe just what it felt like. The fact you omit this information makes me think it was not real.

In general, I think what you think and feel is due to your emotional state at the moment. Your brain can come up with ideas with no help from ghosts. So as you explain this, I feel you must not understand how the human brain works on its own. The fact you deny science makes me conclude this assumption.
I do not deny science in general, just in the case of miracles.
I omit some of these details because it wouldn't matter in most cases if I described to you what the touch felt like (for example). So I don't waste the time to type it.
You can attribute these things to my emotional state if you want, but since I experienced these things, I know better. You will never believe me unless you experience it for yourself. The nice thing is, you can experience these things. But I cannot take the necessary steps for you to prepare for them. It is up to you. If you spent half of the time that you spend trying to explain away the experiences of others, and apply it to trying to find out for yourself, you'd have already experienced it.

And I do not recall your question or my answer in how I experience the Holy Ghost, or Holy Spirit.

“pervinco per logica”

Since: Feb 12

Eradicate willful ignorance.

#101527 Apr 28, 2013
Quantummist wrote:
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No... I think that the Majority of what we observe as matter is not real physical matter but simple EM waves that we being connected to that which we observe is perceived as real physical matter... So as the universe expands the UGC (Universal Gravitational Constant) is decreased and the effect of gravity locally causes dissolution of structure to the point that in the end the universe would consist of SPP's (Smallest Physical Particles) that have stopped ringing and are so widely spaced as to be considered non existent from any point of reference... we would be back at where we were at the time of the BB with a Zero frame of reference indefinable unified energy quantum..
I don't see any correlation between a change in G over time and the relative worth of strong and weak force interactions. Matter won't simply fly apart into an apparent nothing of subatomic particles even if gravity ceased to exist at this moment. Would not bode well for existence as we know it, but there would certainly still be observable matter in abundance.

I also don't think that anywhere near a majority of what we observe and declare to be matter consists of only EM. We know far too much about the photon and its source (across a great many orders of magnitude of energy) for me to believe that. I'd say that there would indeed be some amount of observed EM that may not have a material source, so I agree on some level, but certainly nowhere near a majority of our observations.

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#101528 Apr 28, 2013
Mike Duquette wrote:
<quoted text>Calling us all gods kind of makes the word meaningless. Strange you make it seem I am not capable of understanding this idea when "god" applies to billions of beings?
And to think we humans are not subject to each other is a serious problem. We are subject to each other. Our laws should be a testament to that. We have common curtsies we use to get along with each other, thus we are subject to each other.
Maybe you use the word "subject" as you do "god", in a meaningless fashion.
By subject, I mean answer to (eternally) and worship. No I am not subject to another human in this manner. I am subject to laws created by men, yes. Sorry, I should have clarified this.

I believe that if we follow all the commandments of God, our Father, we can be as He is. He told us we can inherit all things. To know the mysteries of the Kingdom of Heaven will be as we understand the word god.

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#101529 Apr 28, 2013
Mike Duquette wrote:
<quoted text>So earth is not of gods kingdom? We have been told no human can follow all the rules as we are flawed beings, so is it not futile to aspire to be perfect? Do we really have to be so perfect to get to the supposed gods kingdom?

And I must again point out, if we are all gods, then what is gods kingdom?
Jesus told us His kingdom is not of this earth.
And the atonement is how we become perfect. It is not futile to try to be perfect. We must strive to fill the glass of perfection as best we can. The atonement of Christ fills the rest of the cup for us.

God's Kingdom is in Heaven. Not on earth. And yes, you must prepare to achieve it. It is not handed to you.

“pervinco per logica”

Since: Feb 12

Eradicate willful ignorance.

#101530 Apr 28, 2013
do whut wrote:
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I wasn't criticizing. Don't assume my motives. I just asked a question.
Even if your intent wasn't as interpreted, my point stands. There is really no excuse to be uneducated in even the basics of evolution and then enter a debate concerning it. What do you expect people to think?
The vast majority of people who are anti-evolution suffer from the same problem as you. Lack of knowledge. At least you're apparently asking, though, so I'll give you credit there. I still recommend doing research, instead, and then ask questions to clarify any small points you may not understand instead of asking questions that display major conceptual errors.

“Breaking the spell ”

Since: Dec 10

of the puppet master

#101531 Apr 28, 2013
do whut wrote:
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Jesus was more than a prophet. He is the Son of God and the messiah. Since I have received a testimony that Jesus is the Christ and the Son of God, any book that says otherwise, will be discounted. There are some wise words in there, but they are not scripture.
So everyone that prays and feels Jesus is just a prophet must not be getting memos from a holy ghost?
Can you not see how your claims lacks plausibility due to this? Again I feel you are just affirming what you already believe with claims of a holy ghost.

“pervinco per logica”

Since: Feb 12

Eradicate willful ignorance.

#101532 Apr 28, 2013
curious wrote:
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That happens when you post something about which ,you have no knowledge. That is your "Bullshit meter going off.
I've been trying to tell you that.
I just have not used the crude words which you have used to describe what ails you....
A wise man speaks,when he has something to say,A fool speaks,when he has to say somerhing
It's pretty disgusting that you use that name. It's an insult to every curious person on the planet. Please change to "blind follower" ,"eyes closed","never questions", or any other name more fitting of your character.
LEGIONS

Elkhorn City, KY

#101533 Apr 28, 2013
Satanic Priest wrote:
<quoted text>My bullshit meter is going off


LOL okay you didn't read that post that I told you to try and understand? It's funny that when someone does research and finds passages that refute what you are trying to say , you still cannot acknowledge that perhaps your thoughts and opinions don't hold water.
LEGIONS

Elkhorn City, KY

#101534 Apr 28, 2013
It stands to reason that you, Satanic Priest have a closed mind and refuse to listen to reason

“Breaking the spell ”

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of the puppet master

#101535 Apr 28, 2013
do whut wrote:
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I do not deny science in general, just in the case of miracles.
I omit some of these details because it wouldn't matter in most cases if I described to you what the touch felt like (for example). So I don't waste the time to type it.
You can attribute these things to my emotional state if you want, but since I experienced these things, I know better. You will never believe me unless you experience it for yourself. The nice thing is, you can experience these things. But I cannot take the necessary steps for you to prepare for them. It is up to you. If you spent half of the time that you spend trying to explain away the experiences of others, and apply it to trying to find out for yourself, you'd have already experienced it.
And I do not recall your question or my answer in how I experience the Holy Ghost, or Holy Spirit.
I do not believe your answer due to the fact all religions make the same sort of claim, yet have very different answers. So either your claim of being spoken to is wrong, or their claim is wrong, or they both are wrong.
My point is, why should I believe your claim is not wrong when you fail to even describe the process and have no evidence?
This is the reason I keep pointing to the Koran for comparison.

“Breaking the spell ”

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of the puppet master

#101536 Apr 28, 2013
do whut wrote:
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I do not deny science in general, just in the case of miracles.
You have denied more science than what disputes miracles.

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#101537 Apr 28, 2013
_Ummm_ wrote:
<quoted text>Even if your intent wasn't as interpreted, my point stands. There is really no excuse to be uneducated in even the basics of evolution and then enter a debate concerning it. What do you expect people to think?
The vast majority of people who are anti-evolution suffer from the same problem as you. Lack of knowledge. At least you're apparently asking, though, so I'll give you credit there. I still recommend doing research, instead, and then ask questions to clarify any small points you may not understand instead of asking questions that display major conceptual errors.
Not everything is a debate dude. I just asked a question. I wasn't "entering" anything other than a conversation.
TruthIs

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#101538 Apr 28, 2013
do whut wrote:
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That doesn't even make sense with my comment.
Tithing is how he got a visa?
International airline travel is rather expensive, especially for the unemployed.
TruthIs

London, KY

#101539 Apr 28, 2013
ChromiuMan wrote:
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Rutroh. TruthIsn't will now pronounce that bloodletting is a sure cure for karkinos, vapours and consumption - just like it was in the Good Ol' Days.
On DNA data sequencing, the Science of microbiome studies AND faith.

In regard to the DNA sequencing testing of D. Relemn (Infectious diseases/Stamford U circa 1990) as quoted from the Body Electric (Connif, R, Smithsonian 5/2013)

"These samples typically look like nothing at all ("You have to have alot of faith in the invisable")...."

Which quite logically could interpret to "just because one doesn't see "it" doesn't mean "it" isn't there.

Peas: Drink your milk, Vit d deficiency is now thought to contribute to MS.
TruthIs

London, KY

#101540 Apr 28, 2013
Skeptical Spectacles wrote:
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Correct, I have no interest or role in theology. What, in Zeus's beard, does that have to do with evolution?
Even then, science and philosophy were considered as categories each to their own realms.

Duh.
TruthIs

London, KY

#101541 Apr 28, 2013
Skeptical Spectacles wrote:
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I'm not following you. No one said short men weren't reproducing. It's about rates and averages. The average height of the human population is several inches taller now than it was several centuries ago. I'm attempting (albeit unsuccessfully) to explain how that can be explained by evolution. And it's due (at least in part) to reproduction rates. The rate of reproduction for taller men is greater than the reproduction rate of shorter men...on average. Does that make sense?
Do you think it's because bananas might be placed at higher shelf levels in grocery stores these days?
TruthIs

London, KY

#101542 Apr 28, 2013
Mike Duquette wrote:
<quoted text>Calling us all gods kind of makes the word meaningless. Strange you make it seem I am not capable of understanding this idea when "god" applies to billions of beings?
And to think we humans are not subject to each other is a serious problem. We are subject to each other. Our laws should be a testament to that. We have common curtsies we use to get along with each other, thus we are subject to each other.
Maybe you use the word "subject" as you do "god", in a meaningless fashion.
lol

G'day sir, don't let your petticoats show lol

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#101543 Apr 28, 2013
Mike Duquette wrote:
<quoted text>So everyone that prays and feels Jesus is just a prophet must not be getting memos from a holy ghost?
Can you not see how your claims lacks plausibility due to this? Again I feel you are just affirming what you already believe with claims of a holy ghost.
No you have it backwards. I believe BECAUSE of the Holy Ghost.
If your point is that people in other religions have the same conviction as I do, I understand this already. But understand that not everyone can be completely right. Everyone can have pieces of the truth, but if there is a creator, then there would only be His way. It is up to us to search it out.

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#101544 Apr 28, 2013
TruthIs wrote:
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Do you think it's because bananas might be placed at higher shelf levels in grocery stores these days?
No, I don't.

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#101545 Apr 28, 2013
_Ummm_ wrote:
<quoted text>It's pretty disgusting that you use that name. It's an insult to every curious person on the planet. Please change to "blind follower" ,"eyes closed","never questions", or any other name more fitting of your character.
HAhahaha. If you are going to suggest what people should be called on here based off of the character that they display, this should be really fun. We should invite all your favorite combatants. I'd love to see what they have to say. Hahaha

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