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Bible study rules for public schools proposed

There are 141467 comments on the The Courier-Journal story from Feb 10, 2010, titled Bible study rules for public schools proposed. In it, The Courier-Journal reports that:

FRANKFORT, Ky. - The state would create rules for teaching about the Bible in public high schools under a bill filed Monday by three Democratic senators.

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harpocrates

Williamsburg, KY

#101440 Apr 28, 2013
Yiago wrote:
<quoted text>
I'm enjoying your posts. Keep it up!
The magician analogy is very good. We already know that a ton of faith healers, psychics, and other frauds are essentially doing stage magic to fool people into believing in magic powers.
The idea that someone could pray and have a miracle take place is magical thinking. And insulting, IMHO. It suggests that people who suffer, pray, and still suffer are not doing it as well. Or that God just likes them better.
Then they say "well we can't understand God's plan". Really? Then how exactly can you claim to have seen a miracle? Once you state that you can't understand God's sense of morality or justice then how can you ever look at any situation and make a claim about what God is doing?
It's just dumb.
science knows from the placebo effect that modern scientific remedies can be ineffectual based on the patients belief/unbelief.

this isn't rocket science. a persons willingness to participate in a regimen is going to make the success more probable only through participation and the belief that it will work.

u can lead a horse to water but no matter how much you believe he needs to drink, the horse isn't going to take a sup until it wants to do so.

common sense
Wrong again Sparky

Richmond, KY

#101441 Apr 28, 2013
harpocrates wrote:
<quoted text>jesus isn't the ABSOLUTE. you are a liar.
Whatever you WANT to believe....
I'll stick with the truth!

“There is no god”

Since: Jul 12

War, WV

#101442 Apr 28, 2013
I am waiting wrote:
<quoted text>
So now, since you have Googled my address ' that DON'T exist'' you now want to meet me elsewhere? What if that address don't exist eiher? And You are gay!
The address you posted is a acant lot, Nice try coward

Since: Aug 10

Location hidden

#101443 Apr 28, 2013
curious wrote:
<quoted text>
This "Imaginary Friend ,as you call him,is my Best Friend.
This Imaginary Friend has helped me resolve some Real life problems
that I've had to face when no one else was able to help me
But ,that is what Best Frieds are for..
This Imaginary Friend has also made me become very aware of the many faults I posses,has helped me deal with them and has given me a Peace of mind that I had never experienced before.
As he said" My Peace I leave with You,not as the world knows it"
He has been my Friend and advisor.
The only payment he requires is that I be obedient to his teachings,which have proven themselves to be excellent.
let me ask you ;
Do you have a friend that you can compare to my "Imaginary Friend"?
Ever see Fight Club?
Wrong again Sparky

Richmond, KY

#101444 Apr 28, 2013
ChromiuMan wrote:
<quoted text>
Whoosh
Little Boy Blue, go blow your horn -
off key and off topic.
The reference wasn't to electronics, but to your obsessive fascination with primitive fishmongers and sheep herders.
Are you trying to impress me that you might have fiddled around with a trash 80? I was writing programs on a Telex terminal in the 70's, so you guess wrong - as usual.
Hmmmm!
I did guess wrong!
I traded my Atari for the TRS 80, I went from Commodore 64 to an IBM 36-37 programming for an Ins. co. After that I owned my own business selling computers to cities, and schools!
Now I re-mod homes...
Those "fishmongers and sheep herders" had it way better that we do today!
They "Lived" their lives free from the Garbage we have today!
Ye of lil Understanding

Richmond, KY

#101445 Apr 28, 2013
ChromiuMan wrote:
<quoted text>
A guy dies from his 4th heart attack...IT'S A MIRACLE!
No!
Over yer head...
God's Grace let him live to find him, as you live...
Make yourself right with the Lord... OUR end comes soon!

“There is no god”

Since: Jul 12

War, WV

#101446 Apr 28, 2013
harpocrates wrote:
<quoted text>mysteries = occult knowledge
occult terms in the nt
Romans 8:38
For I am persuaded, that neither death, nor life, nor angels, nor principalities, nor powers, nor things present, nor things to come,
Ephesians 3:10
To the intent that now unto the principalities and powers in heavenly places might be known by the church the manifold wisdom of God,
Ephesians 6:12
For we wrestle not against flesh and blood, but against principalities, against powers, against the rulers of the darkness of this world, against spiritual wickedness in high places.
Colossians 1:16
For by him were all things created, that are in heaven, and that are in earth, visible and invisible, whether they be thrones, or dominions, or principalities, or powers: all things were created by him, and for him:
Colossians 2:15
And having spoiled principalities and powers, he made a shew of them openly, triumphing over them in it.
Titus 3:1
Put them in mind to be subject to principalities and powers, to obey magistrates, to be ready to every good work,
he wasn't the only one either
jude uses the terms dominion and power too
[3].
john the revelator was an occultist/kabbalist.
john the revelator was also a kabbalist given his inferences to terms in kabbalah
666 = base mind
1000 = conqueror
crown = kether is mentioned 9 times in revelation = fiery heavens remember they will burn with fervent heat
wisdom = chochmah is mentioned 4 times in revelation = twelve tribes or a complete revolution
glory = hod is mentioned 18 times in revelation = mercury
understanding = binah is mentioned in 13:18 = saturn the scythe bearer = satan the gatherer/harvester with the fan
Luke 3:17 Whose fan is in his hand, and he will throughly purge his floor, and will gather the wheat into his garner; but the chaff he will burn with fire unquenchable.
abyss(bottomless pit)= ein sof is mentioned 9 times. fyi 9 is perfection of the spirit and the abyss is first mentioned in ch. 9 vers 1. the UNCREATED CREATOR or FORMLESS ONE
The Zohar explains the term "Ein Sof" as follows:
Before He gave any shape to the world, before He produced any form, He was alone, without form and without resemblance to anything else. Who then can comprehend how He was before the Creation? Hence it is forbidden to lend Him any form or similitude, or even to call Him by His sacred name, or to indicate Him by a single letter or a single point.... But after He created the form of the Heavenly Man, He used him as a chariot wherein to descend, and He wishes to be called after His form, which is the sacred name 'YHWH'.
foundation = jesod is mentioned 4 times in revelation = moon
victory = netsah is mentioned in rev 15:2 = venus
kingdom = malchuth is mentioned 6 times in revelations = elements
twelve tribes = zodiac is mentioned 10 times in revelation
You can not prove anything to some one who does not believe in your cult by quoting your cults bible
Ye of lil Understanding

Richmond, KY

#101447 Apr 28, 2013
Quantummist wrote:
<quoted text>
"So you say but cannot demonstrate" - Q
You will not find it... unless you SEEK it!
But... even Moses stumbled across a burning bush...
PLACED on his path!
LOL
Ye of lil Understanding

Richmond, KY

#101448 Apr 28, 2013
Mike Duquette wrote:
<quoted text>What if your lusting for knowledge? Do you know what the word "lust" means? It means intense emotional desire. But I can see how your dirty mind works.
Proverbs
1:7 The fear of the LORD [is] the beginning of knowledge:[but]
fools despise wisdom and instruction.
Ye of lil Understanding

Richmond, KY

#101449 Apr 28, 2013
Mike Duquette wrote:
<quoted text>The reports of Obama supporters jumping ship have been grossly exaggerated. Note the claim was before the election,yet Obama still beat Mitt by a long shot.
Sure...
That's why he can't even get a budget passed in the senate!
He needs to be Impeached!

“See how you are?”

Since: Jul 12

Earth

#101450 Apr 28, 2013
Wrong again Sparky wrote:
<quoted text>Hmmmm!
I did guess wrong!
I traded my Atari for the TRS 80, I went from Commodore 64 to an IBM 36-37 programming for an Ins. co. After that I owned my own business selling computers to cities, and schools!
Now I re-mod homes...
Those "fishmongers and sheep herders" had it way better that we do today!
They "Lived" their lives free from the Garbage we have today!
The "good ol' days" never existed. As far as debasing yourself before sheets of dried reed pulp, you know what they say... GIGO.

Since: Aug 10

Location hidden

#101451 Apr 28, 2013
KittenKoder wrote:
<quoted text>
...
Even wounds we saw happen are often misrepresented in the memory, many events are, actually. As time goes on, the longer you live, the less likely you are to remember any specific event and the greater the chances of you remembering them incorrectly....
Radiolab had a great show (which ones aren't great?) on memory a few years back.
http://www.radiolab.org/2007/jun/07/

to download the podcast:
http://www.podtrac.com/pts/redirect.mp3/audio...

Fascinating stuff.
Ye of lil Understanding

Richmond, KY

#101452 Apr 28, 2013
I am waiting wrote:
<quoted text>
And everyones right to thought, freedom of expression, and opinion end, when you post your stupidity?
Now, now...
He has the right to post all the "Stupid" stuff he wants to!
Post on SP... Prove to us, just how stupid you are!
Wrong again Sparky

Richmond, KY

#101453 Apr 28, 2013
Satanic Priest wrote:
The christian cult's morals are that they do not kill or steal because their god is watching but they rape children because the bible does not say they can not do that
You are the nastiest poster on topix... that is no doubt!
And you say we have no morals?
Keep on posting...
You prove God, and the Bible to be true with EVERY post!
Thanks again!
Yes and Amen

Richmond, KY

#101454 Apr 28, 2013
curious wrote:
<quoted text>
This "Imaginary Friend ,as you call him,is my Best Friend.
This Imaginary Friend has helped me resolve some Real life problems
that I've had to face when no one else was able to help me
But ,that is what Best Frieds are for..
This Imaginary Friend has also made me become very aware of the many faults I posses,has helped me deal with them and has given me a Peace of mind that I had never experienced before.
As he said" My Peace I leave with You,not as the world knows it"
He has been my Friend and advisor.
The only payment he requires is that I be obedient to his teachings,which have proven themselves to be excellent.
let me ask you ;
Do you have a friend that you can compare to my "Imaginary Friend"?
Amen! Thank you Jesus!
You are Far from imaginary!

“See how you are?”

Since: Jul 12

Earth

#101456 Apr 28, 2013
Ye of lil Understanding wrote:
<quoted text>No!
Over yer head...
God's Grace let him live to find him, as you live...
Make yourself right with the Lord... OUR end comes soon!
Not over my head. You make the claim that a guy was spared by God for a few months so that he could make peace with God. People live and they die - what their religious status is at the time makes no difference whatsoever. Your fantasy fails. It was not worth acknowledging then, and is only worth a mention now to illuminate the glaring fallacy in your (loosely called) "train of thought".
Yes and Amen

Richmond, KY

#101457 Apr 28, 2013
Yiago wrote:
<quoted text>
You know, most Christians are not gay bashers. Its just that the ones who do it are loud and stupid.
According to Gallup, the acceptance of homosexual relationships as normal is over 54% now. Among the younger generation, born in 2000 or after, it is way over 70% or 80%.
If Christianity is going to survive it is going to have to ditch some of these hateful old ideas about human sexuality. Do you remember that insane preacher last year that said we should put gay men behind a fence and lesbians behind another fence? What an idiot. Then there was another pastor who said the government should kill homosexuals, according to the Bible.
Knuckle dragging goofheads like that need to go away. And they will, in time. I'm sure we'll always have some minority of total a**hats but on the whole it is getting better.
It is good that you think this way. It is good that you are not one of the nutters calling for gays to be killed or imprisoned.
"According to Gallup, the acceptance of homosexual relationships as normal is over 54% now. Among the younger generation, born in 2000 or after, it is way over 70% or 80%."
Now That's "Indoctrination"!

Since: Aug 10

Location hidden

#101458 Apr 28, 2013
KittenKoder wrote:
<quoted text>Wow, you really didn't even pay attention anything I explained at all, you just want this to be a miracle so much you are willing to avoid all possible answers just so you can still tell yourself it is a miracle. Here are a few facts that should shed some light onto things, but I doubt you will even understand why they happen:

99% of all wounds are unknown to the person, even scratches and cuts will often never be noticed by the living organism, including humans. Even cuts in areas we commonly look at go unnoticed, such as on the hands. Often they heal, even scar, without us ever noticing until one day we notice a small scar of one and can't recall ever getting hurt there.

Most wounds that are "stitched" up by doctors do not actually require stitches, it's a precaution actually, to help reduce the risk of infection ... at least that's what they once thought. Turns out stitches are responsible for more infections than without, thus now doctors prefer to use the medical tape in place of stitches today, or staples if the wound is unable to remain closed with tape.

Even wounds we saw happen are often misrepresented in the memory, many events are, actually. As time goes on, the longer you live, the less likely you are to remember any specific event and the greater the chances of you remembering them incorrectly. This is a compression algorithm employed by the brain itself, so everyone will have this happen. When an event matches another close enough, instead of recording the new event, the brain simply alters some details with the old event to blend the two. A very well known, and understood, phenomenon. Technically, most senility is caused by boredom.

..... that's just a small portion of the facts your "miracle" ignores, a very small portion.
No you're right, I don't understand the relevance of this to the story I relayed.
Stitches or no stitches, wounds that bad do not heal that quickly.
And you're talking about the human brain forgetting the details over a long period of time. I'm talking 18 hours.

It isn't that I just want it to be a miracle so bad. It is that you cannot accept what happened and are trying to convince me that it didn't.

Since: Aug 10

Location hidden

#101459 Apr 28, 2013
KittenKoder wrote:
<quoted text>A child's story based on their memory of the event, assuming they are even being honest and not trying to get attention from adults since I know the Mormons hate actually listening to them ... ironically a crayon drawing from a child would be more reliable, but I gave you a small increase in the quality of the evidence you presented. Then you just ran with assumptions without ever actually looking into it or simply doing what any rational mind would. You considered it a miracle just because you wanted it to be.
Mormons hate listening to children? Please justify this absurd comment.

And no, I am not just going off of the child's story. I am looking at all the evidence. The father's story, the mother's story, the blood on the carpet and clothes of the father and son, the scar on the ear that still has a blood stain around it, the EMT that arrived at the scene minutes later, and the child's story of what happened all tell the story in harmony with each other. Where are my assumptions?

Since: Aug 10

Location hidden

#101460 Apr 28, 2013
Quantummist wrote:
<quoted text>They have never stopped evolving... even human have Never stopped evolving... Just a few hundred years ago the Average human was several inches shorter than the Average human today... Our genetic makeup has been altered by our own technological advancements and ability to mix with previously separated populations.. But we as a species have lived in a fairly stable eco system for 1000's of years so change is very slow because environmental pressures do not force faster adaptations.. But placed in a Drastically different environment that rate of change speeds up Dramatically.. For example when humans are placed in space under zero G our bodies drop calcium very fast and muscle mass deteriorates.. Not that's not a problem except that you have to come back to earth and such adaptation could kill you if allowed to continue.. but place a small group of humans in space for several generations and the offspring might not even be recognizable as Human Being...
What is the purpose of us growing taller today? Basketball? To reach things on the tallest shelf?

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