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Bible study rules for public schools proposed

There are 143146 comments on the The Courier-Journal story from Feb 10, 2010, titled Bible study rules for public schools proposed. In it, The Courier-Journal reports that:

FRANKFORT, Ky. - The state would create rules for teaching about the Bible in public high schools under a bill filed Monday by three Democratic senators.

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curious

Ocoee, FL

#101330 Apr 27, 2013
Satanic Priest wrote:
<quoted text>Hmmm, what is written in the bible or what some self serving christian says, what to believe? Nether because they are both made up to promote you over every one else
I do not need,nor want,to promote myself over every one else.
That is not the issue.
You and others who consider themselves,wise in their own eyes,
try to use verses contained in Scriptures,which they do not understand,in an effort to discredit that which is written in Scrptures.
Unfortunately for them,their supposed wisdom,is turned into foolishness,as confirmed by the very Scriptures,that they are attemting to invalidate....
I do not rejoice at their being proved foolish,
I do rejoice that their futile attempts only serve to validate ,that, which they are trying to discredit
GWB

Roseville, CA

#101331 Apr 27, 2013
Why I generally distrust Mormon scholars

When I was growing up in the Mormon Church, I liked the Church but didn’t really have a testimony of it. I wanted to really know if the Church was true. I prayed about it after reading the BofM and didn’t receive any confirmation either way.

I went to the LDS bookstore and bought several books written by Mormon scholars. One that had a profound impact on me was the book The Book of Mormon on Trial by Jack West.

It gave some pretty convincing evidence that the BofM was true. It showed all these big statues in Central and South America that were Egyptian as evidence that people had come across the ocean like the BofM said. It recounted conversations with Native Americans ,who when asked what the name of a local mountain was, they said “Nephihah” and when asked what the name of a river was, they said “Moronihah”.

That was proof to me as these are the very names given as cities and lands in the BofM. There was no way Joseph could have known that. Books like this one really helped give me a testimony that the Church was true. Why would I even think to question that a book I bought at the Church Bookstore, written by a Mormon scholar would be anything less than truthful?

In wasn’t until many years later that I tried to verify the claims of the book to find out that the author, Jack West, made this stuff up. There are no Native Americans that knew those places as Nephihah and Moronihah.

Those pictures of ancient statues that he said were Egyptian were actually Aztec. I was pretty unnerved to find out I had bolstered my testimony on lies made up by a Mormon scholar that seemed to believe that ‘the ends justifies the means’.

Get people to believe any way you can seemed to be his philosophy. Or maybe he just wanted to sell books and made up stuff to make his case for the BofM stronger than it really was. Current LDS apologists like Kerry Shirts candidly admit Jack West and other zealous LDS authors made stuff up in their books.

http://www.exmormonscholarstestify.org/stephe...
GWB

Roseville, CA

#101332 Apr 27, 2013
Book of Mormon

The Book of Mormon is basically about two groups of peoples that lived in the Americas some 1,000 years apart. They were steel-smelting, chariot-driving, temple-building people that grew so numerous that 2 Million people died in a single battle. Yet there is absolutely no evidence that any of these people ever existed.

The BofM is not backed up by any archeological, anthropological or linguistic evidence. There is no evidence of any Hebrew culture in the Americas as you would expect from descendants of Israel as is the premise of the BofM.

DNA evidence indicate that the natives of the Americas originated from Siberia, and probably came across the Bering Strait, just as scientists have thought for decades and not from the Middle East.

Isn’t it strange that we have found much evidence of many other cultures that existed in the Americas like the Aztecs, Mayans,Toltecs, etc. yet not a single Nephite coin, steel sword, armor, or ‘Reformed Egyptian‘ writing has ever been found which is unbelievable considering the span of Jaredites, Nephites & Lamanites which numbered in the millions over the almost 3,000 years that these various peoples reportedly flourished.

http://www.exmormonscholarstestify.org/stephe...

Since: Aug 10

Location hidden

#101333 Apr 27, 2013
GWB wrote:
<quoted text>If Jehovah had a father who was the mother? Does it say her name in the BOM.
No. We believe there is a Heavenly Mother, but the Father has so much respect for Her, that He did not want Her to be blasphemed.

Since: Aug 10

Location hidden

#101334 Apr 27, 2013
GWB wrote:
<quoted text>If Jehovah had a father who was the mother? Does it say her name in the BOM.
I'm speaking of the mother of our spirits. Jesus' earthly mother was Mary.

“I Am No One Else”

Since: Apr 12

Seattle

#101335 Apr 27, 2013
do whut wrote:
<quoted text>
Scar and blood that wasn't there 2 days prior doesn't seem subjective to me.
Wounds do not scar over night, takes weeks for the scar to be fully realized, and months for it to be fully formed. Blood, did you have a lab test it? It could be cow's blood, or any of the animal flesh you find in your fridge. If so, it's a waste of good blood, that's where the flavor is. But I digress, the point being, you don't know the details, just what you were fed, and you swallowed without questioning it because you wanted it to be a miracle. Answer this riddle:

A man lies dead on the ground, surrounded by water and blood. How did he die?

Since: Aug 10

Location hidden

#101336 Apr 27, 2013
GWB wrote:
<quoted text>What are the names of the resurrected apostles and can anyone meet them?
Peter, James, and John appeared to Joseph Smith and Oliver Cowdery and bestowed the Holy Priesthood upon them by the laying on of hands, just as they received it from Jesus.

“There is no god”

Since: Jul 12

War, WV

#101337 Apr 27, 2013
Satanic Priest wrote:
<quoted text>The christian cult REARS organized opposition as much as they fear facts.
By making it sound bad for atheist to organize they push people away from fighting them
Fears, not rears (even though they like little boys for that)

“There is no god”

Since: Jul 12

War, WV

#101338 Apr 27, 2013
curious wrote:
<quoted text>
I do not need,nor want,to promote myself over every one else.
That is not the issue.
You and others who consider themselves,wise in their own eyes,
try to use verses contained in Scriptures,which they do not understand,in an effort to discredit that which is written in Scrptures.
Unfortunately for them,their supposed wisdom,is turned into foolishness,as confirmed by the very Scriptures,that they are attemting to invalidate....
I do not rejoice at their being proved foolish,
I do rejoice that their futile attempts only serve to validate ,that, which they are trying to discredit
I post whole paragraphs with the book, chapter and verse so you can look it up yourself. So do you want to try another angle?

“There is no god”

Since: Jul 12

War, WV

#101339 Apr 27, 2013
Again, the bottom line is that you do not have the right to push or force your beliefs on to other people. If you do not like the world than form your own communities and stop taking from every one elses work.
Otherwise your rights end where every one elses rights begin.
A Thought

Frankfort, KY

#101340 Apr 27, 2013
Satanic Priest wrote:
Again, the bottom line is that you do not have the right to push or force your beliefs on to other people. If you do not like the world than form your own communities and stop taking from every one elses work.
Otherwise your rights end where every one elses rights begin.
You, your girlfriend Indecent Woman and Flat Chested Freda are flowers of the family, Blooming Idiots! Please quit posting because I'm tired of your crap.

“Question, Explore, Discover”

Since: Dec 11

Location hidden

#101341 Apr 27, 2013
LEGIONS wrote:
<quoted text>
Without getting into an exposition of Scripture, the Bible is clear that the Mosaic Covenant (in which the laws you referenced are found) has been replaced by the New Covenant. While there are some similarities between the two covenants, this is not one of them. The Law of Moses was a contract between God and Israel to govern their life in the land of Canaan, both spiritually and politically (a theocratic kingdom). The New Covenant serves an entirely different purpose. The New Covenant governs our spirituality, not our politics. While the New Testament is clear that God has ordained human government to punish evil and commend the good (Romans 13:1-7) it does not speak to how that punishment ought to be carried out for particular moral crimes, or the degree of punishment. It would seem that those decisions are given to the state. It is clear, however, that under the New Covenant sins are not punished in the same way they were under the Mosaic Covenant because the New Covenant is a spiritual, not a political-social covenant.
It would be a mistake, then, to say that Christians are not obeying their own Scripture, or being arbitrary in what parts of the Bible they keep. Each passage of Scripture must be evaluated within its historical and covenantal context, and be applied appropriately. Not all commands in Scripture apply equally for all people and all times (but are specific to a covenant), whereas others do. For example, while I am not obligated to build an ark, I am obligated to abstain from murder.Christians are not ignoring those Old Testament passages, but are properly interpreting them within their context and applying them appropriately.
Though I find the entire affair absolutely ludicrous, I do agree with this logic. I oppose Christianity at every turn not because they aren't applying their own scriptures evenly but because their scriptures are abhorrent. When Christians bash gays it is not because of Leviticus, but also because of Paul (a raging bigot himself).

Yet you do find tons of modern Christians who do in fact quote the Old Testament, especially Leviticus, when it comes to moral questions. That would be the last book I'd look to for moral guidance which is why we give such idiots absolute hell when they do it.
I am waiting

Johnson City, TN

#101342 Apr 27, 2013
Satanic Priest wrote:
Again, the bottom line is that you do not have the right to push or force your beliefs on to other people. If you do not like the world than form your own communities and stop taking from every one elses work.
Otherwise your rights end where every one elses rights begin.
And everyones right to thought, freedom of expression, and opinion end, when you post your stupidity?

“There is no god”

Since: Jul 12

War, WV

#101343 Apr 27, 2013
I am waiting wrote:
<quoted text>
And everyones right to thought, freedom of expression, and opinion end, when you post your stupidity?
When you try to force your religion on to some one after they tell you they do not believe in your god than you are not expressing yourself troll

“There is no god”

Since: Jul 12

War, WV

#101344 Apr 27, 2013
A Thought wrote:
<quoted text>You, your girlfriend Indecent Woman and Flat Chested Freda are flowers of the family, Blooming Idiots! Please quit posting because I'm tired of your crap.
Tired of my crap? Then go fu ck yourself.
The other user names that you posted are posted from Frankfort, so is your post, are you all of those users?
Here is an idea, dont read my post if you do not like them.
May Satan visit you in the night

“I Am No One Else”

Since: Apr 12

Seattle

#101345 Apr 27, 2013
I am waiting wrote:
<quoted text>
And everyones right to thought, freedom of expression, and opinion end, when you post your stupidity?
No, jut those with delusions that their imaginary friend controls the universe and world, even if they call it a god, it's still a delusion, and delusions do not have rights.

Since: Aug 10

Location hidden

#101346 Apr 27, 2013
LOL in a suit wrote:
<quoted text>Lets be truthful, you're an idiot and it's obvious.
Your holyhatebible should be no where near public schools........respect a religie.......not gonna happen........ Remember......
Thanks
GWB

Roseville, CA

#101347 Apr 27, 2013
do whut wrote:
<quoted text>
No. We believe there is a Heavenly Mother, but the Father has so much respect for Her, that He did not want Her to be blasphemed.
Why then was Mary ,the mother of Jehovah, not giving the same respect. Is the Father partial or was Mary just another vagina to be used and thrown to the dogs.
I am waiting

Johnson City, TN

#101348 Apr 27, 2013
Satanic Priest wrote:
<quoted text>When you try to force your religion on to some one after they tell you they do not believe in your god than you are not expressing yourself troll
I don't try to force anything on you! However I gave you an offer, when you wanted to know where I lived! I am waiting, queer!
I am waiting

Johnson City, TN

#101349 Apr 27, 2013
KittenKoder wrote:
<quoted text>
No, jut those with delusions that their imaginary friend controls the universe and world, even if they call it a god, it's still a delusion, and delusions do not have rights.
I really don't give a damn what you think!

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