Bible study rules for public schools proposed

Feb 10, 2010 | Posted by: roboblogger | Full story: The Courier-Journal

FRANKFORT, Ky. - The state would create rules for teaching about the Bible in public high schools under a bill filed Monday by three Democratic senators.

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Naw, I mentioned several things that are evidence to me.
"... to me." Yes, and your standards for evidence are insane, that is obvious from knowing you are a christian. Real evidence is not subjective, nor is it hearsay.

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Here's a little story, when I was young I fell from a tree, two stories high. I landed safely on the ground, no injuries save a few bruises. Is this a "miracle?"
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Dear Dr. Laura,
Thank you for doing so much to educate people regarding God's law. I have learned a great deal from you, and I try to share that knowledge with as many people as I can. When someone tries to defend homosexuality, for example, I will simply remind him or her that Leviticus 18:22 clearly states it to be an abomination. End of debate.
I do need some advice from you, however, regarding some of the other laws in Leviticus and Exodus and how to best follow them. To wit:
When I burn a bull on the altar as a sacrifice, I know it creates a pleasing odor for the Lord (Leviticus 1:9). The problem is my neighbors. They claim the odor is not pleasing to them. How should I deal with this?
I would like to sell my daughter into slavery, as stated in Exodus 21:7. In this day and age, what do you think would be a fair price for her?
I know that I am allowed no contact with a woman while she is in her period of menstrual uncleanliness (Leviticus 15:19-24). The problem is, how can I tell? I have tried asking, but most women take offense.
Leviticus 25:44 states that I may buy slaves from the nations that are around us. A friend of mine claims that this applies to Canadians, but not Mexicans. Can you clarify?
I have a neighbor who insists on working on the Sabbath. Exodus 35:2 clearly states he should be put to death. Am I morally obligated to kill him myself?
A friend of mine says that even though eating shellfish is an abomination (Leviticus 10:10), it is a lesser abomination than homosexuality. I don't agree. Can you settle this?
Leviticus 20:20 states that I may not approach the altar of God if I have a defect in my sight. I have to admit that I wear reading glasses. Does my vision have to be 20/20, or is there some wiggle room here?
I know you have studied these things extensively, so I am confident you can help.
Thank you again for reminding us that God's word is eternal and unchanging.
Sincerely,
A devoted listener
This is so fantastic! Very funny! Love, love it!
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Jesus is not the Father
So Jesus was a lesser God or a god as Jehovah's witness believe also.

This bible verse contradicts what you are saying. Why?

Isaiah 45:5

I am the LORD, and there is no other; apart from me there is no God.

Isaiah 44:6
"This is what the LORD says-- Israel's King and Redeemer, the LORD Almighty: I am the first and I am the last; apart from me there is no God.
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If I make my own ouija board out of a sheet of paper, will it automatically work and give me the answer?
I have come to believe,that,you ask questions,not in a search for knowledge,but for the sake of appesring to be ,wise in your own eyes.
Your questions and responses appear to confirm an old saying
"When a wise man speaks,he has something to say,when a fool speaks,
He has to say something

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curious wrote:
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I have come to believe,that,you ask questions,not in a search for knowledge,but for the sake of appesring to be ,wise in your own eyes.
Your questions and responses appear to confirm an old saying
"When a wise man speaks,he has something to say,when a fool speaks,
He has to say something
Does your mommy and daddy know you're on the computer?
GWB

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I have come to believe,that,you ask questions,not in a search for knowledge,but for the sake of appesring to be ,wise in your own eyes.
Your questions and responses appear to confirm an old saying
"When a wise man speaks,he has something to say,when a fool speaks,
He has to say something
Like I said to you before, you're the reason God made middle fingers.
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KittenKoder wrote:
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Does your mommy and daddy know you're on the computer?
Why do you ask? Is it because you have something to say or because You have to say something?

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At least I make sense. Your monkey chatter for the last several posts makes no sense.
Lets be truthful, you're an idiot and it's obvious.
Your holyhatebible should be no where near public schools........respect a religie.......not gonna happen........ Remember......
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Like I said to you before, you're the reason God made middle fingers.
Apparently you did not have something to say,so ,You had to say something.
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Dear Dr. Laura,
Thank you for doing so much to educate people regarding God's law. I have learned a great deal from you, and I try to share that knowledge with as many people as I can. When someone tries to defend homosexuality, for example, I will simply remind him or her that Leviticus 18:22 clearly states it to be an abomination. End of debate.
I do need some advice from you, however, regarding some of the other laws in Leviticus and Exodus and how to best follow them. To wit:
When I burn a bull on the altar as a sacrifice, I know it creates a pleasing odor for the Lord (Leviticus 1:9). The problem is my neighbors. They claim the odor is not pleasing to them. How should I deal with this?
I would like to sell my daughter into slavery, as stated in Exodus 21:7. In this day and age, what do you think would be a fair price for her?
I know that I am allowed no contact with a woman while she is in her period of menstrual uncleanliness (Leviticus 15:19-24). The problem is, how can I tell? I have tried asking, but most women take offense.
Leviticus 25:44 states that I may buy slaves from the nations that are around us. A friend of mine claims that this applies to Canadians, but not Mexicans. Can you clarify?
I have a neighbor who insists on working on the Sabbath. Exodus 35:2 clearly states he should be put to death. Am I morally obligated to kill him myself?
A friend of mine says that even though eating shellfish is an abomination (Leviticus 10:10), it is a lesser abomination than homosexuality. I don't agree. Can you settle this?
Leviticus 20:20 states that I may not approach the altar of God if I have a defect in my sight. I have to admit that I wear reading glasses. Does my vision have to be 20/20, or is there some wiggle room here?
I know you have studied these things extensively, so I am confident you can help.
Thank you again for reminding us that God's word is eternal and unchanging.
Sincerely,
A devoted listener
Without getting into an exposition of Scripture, the Bible is clear that the Mosaic Covenant (in which the laws you referenced are found) has been replaced by the New Covenant. While there are some similarities between the two covenants, this is not one of them. The Law of Moses was a contract between God and Israel to govern their life in the land of Canaan, both spiritually and politically (a theocratic kingdom). The New Covenant serves an entirely different purpose. The New Covenant governs our spirituality, not our politics. While the New Testament is clear that God has ordained human government to punish evil and commend the good (Romans 13:1-7) it does not speak to how that punishment ought to be carried out for particular moral crimes, or the degree of punishment. It would seem that those decisions are given to the state. It is clear, however, that under the New Covenant sins are not punished in the same way they were under the Mosaic Covenant because the New Covenant is a spiritual, not a political-social covenant.

It would be a mistake, then, to say that Christians are not obeying their own Scripture, or being arbitrary in what parts of the Bible they keep. Each passage of Scripture must be evaluated within its historical and covenantal context, and be applied appropriately. Not all commands in Scripture apply equally for all people and all times (but are specific to a covenant), whereas others do. For example, while I am not obligated to build an ark, I am obligated to abstain from murder.Christians are not ignoring those Old Testament passages, but are properly interpreting them within their context and applying them appropriately.

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No beating around the burning bush there.

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Without getting into an exposition of Scripture, the Bible is clear that the Mosaic Covenant (in which the laws you referenced are found) has been replaced by the New Covenant. While there are some similarities between the two covenants, this is not one of them. The Law of Moses was a contract between God and Israel to govern their life in the land of Canaan, both spiritually and politically (a theocratic kingdom). The New Covenant serves an entirely different purpose. The New Covenant governs our spirituality, not our politics. While the New Testament is clear that God has ordained human government to punish evil and commend the good (Romans 13:1-7) it does not speak to how that punishment ought to be carried out for particular moral crimes, or the degree of punishment. It would seem that those decisions are given to the state. It is clear, however, that under the New Covenant sins are not punished in the same way they were under the Mosaic Covenant because the New Covenant is a spiritual, not a political-social covenant.
It would be a mistake, then, to say that Christians are not obeying their own Scripture, or being arbitrary in what parts of the Bible they keep. Each passage of Scripture must be evaluated within its historical and covenantal context, and be applied appropriately. Not all commands in Scripture apply equally for all people and all times (but are specific to a covenant), whereas others do. For example, while I am not obligated to build an ark, I am obligated to abstain from murder.Christians are not ignoring those Old Testament passages, but are properly interpreting them within their context and applying them appropriately.
So then morality is not absolute and your god is not unchanging.
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Godís character never changes, nor does He ever act in any way that is inconsistent with His character. What we have to realize is that part of Godís character is that when people repent, He stays His wrath, but when they turn from good and do evil, He brings judgement. This was especially evident in the Old Testament when divine justice was often swift and apparent to all. People change, not God's standards or God's nature, and as they change, He varies in His dealings with them. This is how it has always been and always will be with God.

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<quoted text>"... to me." Yes, and your standards for evidence are insane, that is obvious from knowing you are a christian. Real evidence is not subjective, nor is it hearsay.
Scar and blood that wasn't there 2 days prior doesn't seem subjective to me.

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<quoted text>So Jesus was a lesser God or a god as Jehovah's witness believe also.

This bible verse contradicts what you are saying. Why?

Isaiah 45:5

I am the LORD, and there is no other; apart from me there is no God.

Isaiah 44:6
"This is what the LORD says-- Israel's King and Redeemer, the LORD Almighty: I am the first and I am the last; apart from me there is no God.
To us, He is our God and mediator with the Father.
Psalms 82:6
I have said, Ye are gods; and all of you are children of the most High.

John 10:34
Jesus answered them, Is it not written in your law, I said, Ye are gods?

Notice Jesus said that He said what was in their law. Jesus is the God of the Old Testament.
And Jesus made it very clear that He was subject to the Father. He prayed to the Father. He told us that He could do nothing that He didn't see the Father do. But to us, He is everything.

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<quoted text>Lets be truthful, you're an idiot and it's obvious.
Your holyhatebible should be no where near public schools........respect a religie.......not gonna happen........ Remember......
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<quoted text>Without getting into an exposition of Scripture, the Bible is clear that the Mosaic Covenant (in which the laws you referenced are found) has been replaced by the New Covenant. While there are some similarities between the two covenants, this is not one of them. The Law of Moses was a contract between God and Israel to govern their life in the land of Canaan, both spiritually and politically (a theocratic kingdom). The New Covenant serves an entirely different purpose. The New Covenant governs our spirituality, not our politics. While the New Testament is clear that God has ordained human government to punish evil and commend the good (Romans 13:1-7) it does not speak to how that punishment ought to be carried out for particular moral crimes, or the degree of punishment. It would seem that those decisions are given to the state. It is clear, however, that under the New Covenant sins are not punished in the same way they were under the Mosaic Covenant because the New Covenant is a spiritual, not a political-social covenant.

It would be a mistake, then, to say that Christians are not obeying their own Scripture, or being arbitrary in what parts of the Bible they keep. Each passage of Scripture must be evaluated within its historical and covenantal context, and be applied appropriately. Not all commands in Scripture apply equally for all people and all times (but are specific to a covenant), whereas others do. For example, while I am not obligated to build an ark, I am obligated to abstain from murder.Christians are not ignoring those Old Testament passages, but are properly interpreting them within their context and applying them appropriately.
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<quoted text>All religions do. The JWs don't allow premarital sex at all, masturbation is a no no and oral will get you in trouble.

There's a Mormon on TV for murder, if one will do that then I'm sure another one will show her temple garments. I goofed around with a girl one time that had a sweet German accent and soon after we met she told me she was Amish and her conscience wouldn't allow her to see me anymore. Usually the stricter the parents, the more reason for them to rebel the first chance they get. That's my experience on it anyway.

Sex is a powerful thing. Kind of makes you wonder about free will when some of us have a sex drive of a bull elephant and everything we want to do is a sin. Doesn't seem fair to burden people with a sex drive if you punish them for using it.
Just because you CAN do something, doesn't mean you should though.
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aWitchintheWoods wrote:
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This stupid remark is almost older than you are.
You need to get some new material for your rants.
They are getting repetitious and monotonous.
The fact that most of the time you simply laugh like a lunatic shows that, well.... you are a lunatic.
Jumping up and down shouting "god is real, he talks to me" convinces no one.
YOU convince no one.
Whatever you want to believe,
but you do seem to respond to my posts....
What does that make you?

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