Bible study rules for public schools proposed

Feb 10, 2010 Full story: The Courier-Journal 131,593

FRANKFORT, Ky. - The state would create rules for teaching about the Bible in public high schools under a bill filed Monday by three Democratic senators.

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“There is no god”

Since: Jul 12

War, WV

#100958 Apr 25, 2013
John F Dillenger wrote:
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Show a post where I mentioned Religon ass wipe! You are a sniveling coward with a big mouth! Just like the wolves in your pack! You try to shock everyone with "Satanic Priest". You are a pathetic, lowlife, halfwit SOB! You may have graduated High School at best! Do you hate God so much because you are gay?
This is what sick freaks like you get off on
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Sure

United States

#100959 Apr 25, 2013
Satanic Priest wrote:
<quoted text>Hmmm, since the christian cult is losing followers daily and as education and information is easier to obtain less people believe that crap I would say that the world is sharing the wisdom.
Hard for you con artist to just make stuff up when there is Google huh?
Jesus will never lose! People lose. And we have allowed the lord to be taken out of almost everything in this world and look what it has created! More killing, more evil, more hurt and shame and corruption and hate. When the people of the world prayed to jesus and we included him in all we did you didn't see much of this thats going on now. Kids killing kids, parents killing kids, on and on and on. He is the alpha and omega. He will not force you to love n worship him. He's not that kind of god. But how sweet the peace is he gives you in your mind and soul when you do accept him as your savior. Nothing better.

“There is no god”

Since: Jul 12

War, WV

#100960 Apr 25, 2013
So johhny boy, where at in Jonesborough, TN?
In case I am driving through and want to give you the chance to bit ch up like a little girl
GWB

Roseville, CA

#100961 Apr 25, 2013
-NEPHILIM- wrote:
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Please don't make me agree with that idiot. Couldn't you of picked someone else? They also use the Torah if I'm not mistaken. Give me a minute and I'll do a little research and try to explain it.
President Bush's infatuation with universalism is tied to his commitment to universal (or global) government. You see, Bush is part of an elitist cabal that is attempting to carve out an international New World Order. And in order for global (or even regional) government to take shape, there must be an acceptance of global religion.

In other words, universalism is the religion of the New World Order, the United Nations, and all those who desire global government.

By Pastor Chuck Baldwin

October 23, 2007

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United States

#100962 Apr 25, 2013
concerned wrote:
The danger in teaching the Bible is that this book has the power to create faith even in an atheist. If it is allowed to be taught there is a strong possibility someone could be converted to Jesus Christ. Under the current world views is it possible to allow such a powerful tool for good to be taught in public schools and that before the young minds of the future?
. Sorry but we have something called separation of church and state keeps you from pushing your ideology on our children.
curious

Ocoee, FL

#100963 Apr 25, 2013
TO UMMMMMM
Appreciate your response,couple of points I want to make
UMMM WROTE
1) Time is irrelevant here. If you are trying to give it relevance, you are being tricked by an outdated part of your brain. What's relevant is that the woman knew about the lost dog. Whether she was consciously thinking about the dog or not, she was certainly aware of it.
I disagree that time is not relevant here and that if I am trying to give it relevance, it's because I am being tricked by an outdated part of my brain,whatever that might mean, That sounds absurd
These events took place on the same day,the same date and the same time 8;30 to 9;00 and it had never occurred to the lady in question, to look in the lost pet section previous to that particular day .
So,the fact that both occurences happened on the same day and date,at the same time,makes time very relevant AND can not be dismissed by stating that I was somehow tricked
BUT,could it have been a coincident,,,Yes
UMMM wrote
2)The woman was reading the paper. Many people skim the paper front to back, and only focus on things that catch their attention. This is normal human behavior and allows for maximum efficiency in gathering information that you care about and not wasting time on other information (a pretty amazing trait, actually). She remembers the dog as she's skimming the lost and found. She then focuses on the individual ads.

You are making an assumption that seeks to justify your views,problem with that,as I see it is,most people that hear that their neighbor found a dog and gave it away are seldom concerned about trying to find it's owner..On their list of worries and concerns,that concern would be way at the bottom of the list,if,at all
..BUT,could this be a consecutive coincident,related to the first coincident.......YES

3)She initially doesn't think that the descriptions match the dog she remembers, but the human mind has evolved to be capable of making very quick decisions that may not be the most accurate, but are accurate enough overall to ensure survival. This is a case where the initial decision was flawed. The human mind also tends to double check itself in cases of low confidence (usually once danger has passed, in nature). This is often labeled "doubt". She had a doubt about rejecting your ad, so rather than chance a pet owner being separated from their pet, she called you. Simple risk/benefit analysis. It hurts nothing to call you, but has more severe consequences to not call you.

Again,you are making assumptions in order to justify your opinion,This has nothing to do with survival.
Moreover,to me,if for some reason that I can not explain,I turn to the lost pets section of the paper,something I had never had a reason to do previously,then I read through the ads and find that none of the descriptions in the ad seem to fit the dog in question, I would go on to read something else.That to me,would seem logical.
But ,you base your conclusions on risk/benefit analysis that the overwhelming majority of the people would never apply
You seem to be implying that your explanation,is,in effect,the way most people would react under the same circumstances.....To me ,that is an exceptionally long stretch.
But,could this be the third consecutive coincident in this chain of events.....YES
curious

Ocoee, FL

#100964 Apr 25, 2013
Now,can I LOGICALLY conclude,based on your explanation,that these events have no other explanation,other than the one you gave. Logically means-According to logical reasoning?
Now ,here was the dilemna I faced, These events could all be a coincident,which I could not logically explain
However,the events that took place,wether by coincidence or design,led to my finding my dog..
And one of those events included my praying to a GOD that I did not believe in.
Now,the question arises,were the results based on a coincidence,or,If God really existed,was he somehow responsible for the results,

Something or someone caused this lady to act the way she did, Now I was very curious as to how or whom had caused this series of events.
Given the possibility that God existed,I started reading the Bible and asking questions.
As I read the Bible ,I found these verses,among others, If you diligently seek me,you will find me
Seek and ye shall find,Ask and you will receive,He who comes to me ,I will in no way cast out.
So,I put those teachings to the test.

Since that time,I have faced a number of situations,as probably most people have,where you can not find a solution to a very pressing problem, wether it be financial,a marrriage problem,family problem or whatever.
You attempt to resolve it on your own,You wish it would go away,you wait for it to go away and the problem still remains..
So,I again turned to God. Within 1 day my problem was resolved.
Subsequent problems have been solved only when I pray to God.
Therefore,either God is responding,or,when I seek his help,,some unknown benevolent power seems to respond to my request or,my prayer causes a series of conincidences to take place,which in turn,provide the results I requested..
I believe,that he who answers my prayers is God,That is whom I pray to and it is he who responds.
That is the basis for my faith...I have tested his teachings,and he has responded as he said he would.
ursostupid

Monticello, KY

#100965 Apr 25, 2013
Satanic Priest wrote:
<quoted text>Yep, a true christian.
You elevate yourself because you know that you are worthless.
I do not shock any one, And there is no god to hate dummy.
You are a troll, an attention junky that is looking for a fix.
I bet you jerk off to gay porn and little boys dont you.
I read on your little pic that you live in Hell. I bet you do. Your own self made hell. For what reason do you want to be there? Are you so ignorant as to think Satan is your friend somehow? HAHAHA!! You expect people to not believe in God yet you say "hail Satan"? Funny . I will be so glad when the Truth comes down (literally). I want to see the look on you peoples' faces. You ignorant hilljacks.
John F Dillenger

Johnson City, TN

#100968 Apr 26, 2013
Satanic Priest wrote:
So johhny boy, where at in Jonesborough, TN?
In case I am driving through and want to give you the chance to bit ch up like a little girl
8690 107 cutoff, Greeneville TN! ANY GODDAMN TIME! However you won't be driving home Gaytanic Priest!
John F Dillenger

Johnson City, TN

#100969 Apr 26, 2013
Satanic Priest wrote:
<quoted text>Yep, a true christian.
You elevate yourself because you know that you are worthless.
I do not shock any one, And there is no god to hate dummy.
You are a troll, an attention junky that is looking for a fix.
I bet you jerk off to gay porn and little boys dont you.
You described yourself to a tee, Gaytanic Priest!

“Question, Explore, Discover”

Since: Dec 11

Location hidden

#100970 Apr 26, 2013
do whut wrote:
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The cool thing to me is that neither of us know what happens after death. Science is useless in this question and belief can never show proof. I think the first 10 seconds after we die will be very cool if believers are right.
Why is it so hard to believe that people can have faith in something they don't fully understand? You have not tested every theory that scientists put forth. You have faith in humans that their tests were done properly.
Others have already addressed this. Nice to see this thread is getting a lot of action.

Science is certainly not useless in this question. It has just as much use as in any other question. We evaluate questions based on evidence and reason. If there is a lot of evidence for a certain idea and none for a different idea, and if reason leads to think the former idea seems more plausible then it is not only realistic to lend trust to that idea, it is IRRATIONAL and unrealistic not to.

In other words, if science indicates that we probably simply die and do not go on then it makes sense to accept that as a conditionally true fact.

There is always room for a little doubt. But what you are suggesting is that you not only doubt it, you actively believe in an entirely different idea. An idea that is rich in detail, full of dovetailing ideas, and true for everyone. It makes no sense to believe that way, except that it probably makes you feel better to do so. I understand that desire.

It would make me feel better to think that in ten years I'll be a rich man with the powers of a superhero and dozens of hot wives. But guess what? I would be insane to actually believe it. And you would agree with me on that, right?

“Question, Explore, Discover”

Since: Dec 11

Location hidden

#100971 Apr 26, 2013
do whut wrote:
<quoted text>
I think you misunderstood me and are trying to ride that pony in the ground. Let me clarify. Not everything a prophet speaks is inspired or is direct revelation from The Lord. They speak words from their own minds much more frequently than they declare revelation.
How do you know the difference?

Since: Aug 10

Location hidden

#100972 Apr 26, 2013
curious wrote:
TO UMMMMMM
Appreciate your response...
I disagree that time is not relevant here and that if I am trying to give it relevance, it's because I am being tricked by an outdated part of my brain,whatever that might mean, That sounds absurd...
I think we've discovered the crux of the problem here.
curious wrote:
whatever that might mean, That sounds absurd
Pearls before swine...

“Question, Explore, Discover”

Since: Dec 11

Location hidden

#100973 Apr 26, 2013
Mike Duquette wrote:
<quoted text>Any critical minded person does not live their lives based on a claim that does not have much evidence. This would be one of those cases.
It is pretty clear their are links between dinosaurs and birds, but that does not mean all claims about each one is true.
But most atheist science followers are not denying people rights due to what science is saying about ostrich eggs. But Christians do try and deny rights to homosexuals due to what the bible claims about them. You have absolutely zero evidence a god approved of condemning homosexuals.
Excellent point.

The Bible rarely mentions homosexuality at all, and often in unclear terms. According to the way people used to interpret the Bible, you could easily interpret those passages in different ways. Christians do this ALL THE TIME. It is how they dodge the tricky parts of the Bible such as the story of Abraham going to sacrifice Isaac. They interpret it in a way that makes it sound good.

Yet they fixate on their negative interpretation of the gay bits. They fixate on it in a big way. Why? Why this one little thing? Is it because this is a small minority and an easy target?

Since: Aug 10

Location hidden

#100974 Apr 26, 2013
Yiago wrote:
<quoted text>
...

It would make me feel better to think that in ten years I'll be a rich man with the powers of a superhero and dozens of hot wives. But guess what? I would be insane to actually believe it. And you would agree with me on that, right?
That might not have been the best way to illustrate delusional thinking to a guy who's religion/sect has a history of polygamy, wealth attainment, and magic underwear.

“Question, Explore, Discover”

Since: Dec 11

Location hidden

#100975 Apr 26, 2013
curious wrote:
TO UMMMMMM

I disagree that time is not relevant here and that if I am trying to give it relevance, it's because I am being tricked by an outdated part of my brain,whatever that might mean, That sounds absurd
These events took place on the same day,the same date and the same time 8;30 to 9;00 and it had never occurred to the lady in question, to look in the lost pet section previous to that particular day .
I addressed this already. People read the paper in the morning, so the time of day is not really shocking. Also, this all takes place in a few weeks, right? From the time the dog was found by the other person to the time the lady saw the ad is only a few weeks, correct? So right off the bat there is roughly a 1/14 chance she would call on that day. Actually, even better odds than that.

You are looking for reasons to justify an irrational belief.
Libertarian

London, UK

#100977 Apr 26, 2013
I was bought up by christians.

Reading the bible made me an atheist. The character in the book called God is one of the most horiffic I've ever read about.
I find most christians listen to the soundbites of the bible. When they actually read it cover to cover many are shocked.

Even if he did exist I would certainly not worship such a deity with such obvious contempt for the well being of his creations.

Several hundred religion? There are 38,000 different types of christianity alone. Look up Godlist on tinternet, there are thousands.

If you can explain why your god (with no evidence) is more likely than all those other gods (again with no evidence) then maybe I'd listen.

You numptys only choose that god because of the time and place of your birth. Your faith is an accident of geography and timing. If you'd been born in Cairo for instance you'd probably be just the same but talking about a differnt religion.

We should educate our children of these heinous parts of life but NOT AS SCIENCE as guess what is is NOT SCIENCE or even history.
Reading

Harrodsburg, KY

#100978 Apr 26, 2013
concerned wrote:
The danger in teaching the Bible is that this book has the power to create faith even in an atheist. If it is allowed to be taught there is a strong possibility someone could be converted to Jesus Christ. Under the current world views is it possible to allow such a powerful tool for good to be taught in public schools and that before the young minds of the future?
You guys crack me up...The Bible was in teaching our children to read in public schools. The American people are the most miss guyed people about our education. From the Bible to our type of government. Yes our young people needs to be effected by Jesus Christ teachings. May be they'll learn some thing like to love each and respect life.

Concern, I'm sure you're the American that thinks America is a democracy form of government. WE are a Republic form of government.
Yes, we where founded up on the 10 Commandment of the Bible. Why did our for fathers quote so many biblical scriptures in their writing. Please go to Thomas Jefferson Monument in DC... Were the Bible scripture is in scripted in the dome.

?????????? If readying and teach the Bible in a public school happens to our young minds of mush in America, our country in good shape!!!!!!!!!!

God Bless America!!!
Yes and Amen

Richmond, KY

#100979 Apr 26, 2013
-NEPHILIM- wrote:
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I thought they both served the God of Abraham?
One was hijacked by satan... LOL
John 3:16 says God Loves us...
Islam says... Blow everybody up!
Go figure!
Reading

Harrodsburg, KY

#100980 Apr 26, 2013
Yiago wrote:
<quoted text>
Excellent point.
The Bible rarely mentions homosexuality at all, and often in unclear terms. According to the way people used to interpret the Bible, you could easily interpret those passages in different ways. Christians do this ALL THE TIME. It is how they dodge the tricky parts of the Bible such as the story of Abraham going to sacrifice Isaac. They interpret it in a way that makes it sound good.
Yet they fixate on their negative interpretation of the gay bits. They fixate on it in a big way. Why? Why this one little thing? Is it because this is a small minority and an easy target?
THE Bibles very clear on the subject of Homosexuality. Just read Romans Chapter one!!! LOL...you've never read the Bible through so you really don't understand the Bible or know what it truly says.

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