Bible study rules for public schools proposed

Feb 10, 2010 Full story: The Courier-Journal 132,260

FRANKFORT, Ky. - The state would create rules for teaching about the Bible in public high schools under a bill filed Monday by three Democratic senators.

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“I Am No One Else”

Since: Apr 12

Seattle

#100356 Apr 20, 2013
Brian_G wrote:
....
<quoted text>Morality is constant, murder is wrong and God said so in the Bible. Face facts, murder has been wrong since the myth of Cain and Abel. Not a fashion like manners, courtesy or diversity; right and wrong are basic moral facts. Ancient Greeks proposed utilitarian and idealistic moral codes thousands of years ago. There've been improvements...
....
It's so "constant" that murder is wrong unless:

1. They're children, they are your property .... but wait, you don't follow that now.

2. They're a witch, even though real witches don't actually exist, a wash.

3. They work on the "sabbath," of course you don't follow that now either.

4. Your god commands it, which is told to you by .... whoever you choose to believe is it's "speaker," that's really smart.

....

I'm too lazy to add the rest.
curious

Ocoee, FL

#100357 Apr 20, 2013
dont fall for it wrote:
I would like to thank all of the jesus freaks who post here for reminding me why I do not like jesus freaks
I,would like to take this opportunity to thank all the unbelievers,who in their attempts to discredit our faith and belief in God, has only served to further strengthen our faith and belief in God by confirming the teachings of Jesus and those contained in the Scriptures
. Those on this website,who do not believe in God,are totally unable to understand the basis for our Sacred beliefs.and in their inability to do so,consider our beliefs to be foolishness.
This should not surprise us,the Apostle Paul spoke plainly on this subject 1 corinthians1;18 to 25
We,who believe in Jesus,do so ,by believing his teachings,and this is part of what he taught
10 And the disciples came and said to Him,“Why do You speak to them in parables?” 11 He answered and said to them,“Because it has been given to you to know the mysteries of the kingdom of heaven, but to them it has not been given. 12 For whoever has, to him more will be given, and he will have abundance; but whoever does not have, even what he has will be taken away from him. 13 Therefore I speak to them in parables, because seeing they do not see, and hearing they do not hear, nor do they understand. 14 And in them the prophecy of Isaiah is fulfilled, which says:
‘Hearing you will hear and shall not understand,
And seeing you will see and not perceive;
15 For the hearts of this people have grown dull.
Their ears are hard of hearing,
And their eyes they have closed,
Lest they should see with their eyes and hear with their ears,
Lest they should understand with their hearts and turn,
So that I should heal them
Therefore the Parable,taught by Jesus
""Do not give what is holy to dogs, and do not throw your pearls before swine, or they will trample them under their feet, and turn and attack you"
is found to be truthful and accurate.
According to Jesus's teachings,in order to interpret his parables,you have to believe in him.
The Atheists claim they understand Jesus's parable,but do not believe in him.
Their false claim,that they understand the parable,is confirmed to be a false claim,since they have been unable to provide the answer as to it's meaning...They can not explain what Jesus meant when he said
"""Do not give what is holy to dogs" nor can they explain,what he meant when he says"and do not throw your pearls before swine, or they will trample them under their feet, and turn and attack you"
Thereby fullfilling Isaiah's prophecy"‘Hearing you will hear and shall not understand,
And seeing you will see and not perceive;"

“Speaker of Mountain Wisdom....”

Since: Jan 10

Somerset, KY

#100358 Apr 20, 2013
TruthIS wrote:
<quoted text>
I wasn't describing any cult, but since you see need to twist and distort words-here's MY opinion. Please try and act like a sane and logical adult-and do NOT try and alter it in anyway.
That's just the nature of the beast known as humanity-no matter WHAT label you wish you could stick on the foreheads of in the lame kindergarten herd pack blame sandbox game.
"Allah Akbar"...defined.
"Literal: There is no god but Allah and Muhammad is the messenger of Allah.
'Allah' is not simply the Arabic word for 'God,' but the name of Islam's chosen deity (i.e. the pre-Islamic moon god located in the Ka'aba.) and 'Akbar' does not mean 'great,' but 'greater.' Greater than what? The answer is - Allah is greater...than whatever god you happen to believe in. "
Really? I opine else wise.
I refuse to believe in any "diety or attached beliefs or NON beliefs", be it a vapor of gases, the smallest scientific particle known, a worm, a group, a building, or anything, tangible or intangible, that REFUSES to acknowledge the RIGHTS of ALL people to live and let live PEACEFULLY, and to believe in what they so choose to, so long is it is NOT offending, insulting, critisizing, harming or hurting others in any way shape, fashion or form.
Because such is belief (or LACK of belief) that refuses to acknowledge the RIGHTS og these basic humane components, is NOT worthy, and knows NOT the ways of TRUE PEACE.
That is MY opinion.
State your own-but do not try and alter mine to suit yours, or to suit what YOU think, because that's just imbecilic, infantile, ignorant.
I personally do NOT have a problem with "Christians" (or any other faiths!!!) based on Individuality--providing are HARMLESS (being the KEY word) to others.
If you do-that's YOUR problem, do NOT project it as anything else but.
A Cult is a Cult whether it's Your Cult or their Cult... A Cult is a Cult....

“I Luv Carbon Dioxide”

Since: Dec 08

Location hidden

#100359 Apr 20, 2013
KittenKoder wrote:
It's so "constant" that murder is wrong unless:
Some people draw the wrong conclusion from bible study; this is why they need guidance in public schools.

.
KittenKoder wrote:
1. They're children, they are your property .... but wait, you don't follow that now.
The parents need permit ion from the community in that case; the permission to kill a child was taken from the parents. And K.K. is correct, it was never followed. There's no record of the execution of a child based on a charge from a parent.

.
KittenKoder wrote:
2. They're a witch, even though real witches don't actually exist, a wash.
So K.K. admits, this exception to the murder prohibition is problematic, not real?

.
KittenKoder wrote:
3. They work on the "sabbath," of course you don't follow that now either.
The rule was never applied to Gentiles. Another problematic issue.

.
KittenKoder wrote:
4. Your god commands it, which is told to you by .... whoever you choose to believe is it's "speaker," that's really smart.
I don't hear God's voice in my head, do you? Sometimes, I think I can figure out the right way, to not hurt people and act right. I don't listen to people commanding murder.

.
KittenKoder wrote:
.... I'm too lazy to add the rest.
A good thing for us, please reread and try to learn the real lessons, not PC baloney.
TruthIS

Hazard, KY

#100360 Apr 20, 2013
Quantummist wrote:
<quoted text>
A Cult is a Cult whether it's Your Cult or their Cult... A Cult is a Cult....
Don't you have a cult for photography cwub meeting to attend to?

After tbis week, youz guyz should have plenty to review!

“I Am No One Else”

Since: Apr 12

Seattle

#100361 Apr 20, 2013
Brian_G wrote:
<quoted text>Some people draw the wrong conclusion from bible study; this is why they need guidance in public schools.
.
<quoted text>The parents need permit ion from the community in that case; the permission to kill a child was taken from the parents. And K.K. is correct, it was never followed. There's no record of the execution of a child based on a charge from a parent.
.
<quoted text>So K.K. admits, this exception to the murder prohibition is problematic, not real?
.
<quoted text>The rule was never applied to Gentiles. Another problematic issue.
.
<quoted text>I don't hear God's voice in my head, do you? Sometimes, I think I can figure out the right way, to not hurt people and act right. I don't listen to people commanding murder.
.
<quoted text>A good thing for us, please reread and try to learn the real lessons, not PC baloney.
So then your morals are just as subjective as everyone else, thank you for admitting that.

“There is no god”

Since: Jul 12

War, WV

#100362 Apr 20, 2013
curious wrote:
<quoted text>
I,would like to take this opportunity to thank all the unbelievers,who in their attempts to discredit our faith and belief in God, has only served to further strengthen our faith and belief in God by confirming the teachings of Jesus and those contained in the Scriptures
. Those on this website,who do not believe in God,are totally unable to understand the basis for our Sacred beliefs.and in their inability to do so,consider our beliefs to be foolishness.
This should not surprise us,the Apostle Paul spoke plainly on this subject 1 corinthians1;18 to 25
We,who believe in Jesus,do so ,by believing his teachings,and this is part of what he taught
10 And the disciples came and said to Him,“Why do You speak to them in parables?” 11 He answered and said to them,“Because it has been given to you to know the mysteries of the kingdom of heaven, but to them it has not been given. 12 For whoever has, to him more will be given, and he will have abundance; but whoever does not have, even what he has will be taken away from him. 13 Therefore I speak to them in parables, because seeing they do not see, and hearing they do not hear, nor do they understand. 14 And in them the prophecy of Isaiah is fulfilled, which says:
‘Hearing you will hear and shall not understand,
And seeing you will see and not perceive;
15 For the hearts of this people have grown dull.
Their ears are hard of hearing,
And their eyes they have closed,
Lest they should see with their eyes and hear with their ears,
Lest they should understand with their hearts and turn,
So that I should heal them
Therefore the Parable,taught by Jesus
""Do not give what is holy to dogs, and do not throw your pearls before swine, or they will trample them under their feet, and turn and attack you"
is found to be truthful and accurate.
According to Jesus's teachings,in order to interpret his parables,you have to believe in him.
The Atheists claim they understand Jesus's parable,but do not believe in him.
Their false claim,that they understand the parable,is confirmed to be a false claim,since they have been unable to provide the answer as to it's meaning...They can not explain what Jesus meant when he said
"""Do not give what is holy to dogs" nor can they explain,what he meant when he says"and do not throw your pearls before swine, or they will trample them under their feet, and turn and attack you"
Thereby fullfilling Isaiah's prophecy"‘Hearing you will hear and shall not understand,
And seeing you will see and not perceive;"
No one is trying to change you are your belief. We do tell you to keep it to yourself and no you will not force it on us our children our community.
Nothing in your belief is real so it has no basis on our society
I find it sad that we can not burn you at the stake like you did us
Praying for the rapture

Athens, OH

#100363 Apr 20, 2013
What is God waiting on?
religion freedom

Canton, OH

#100364 Apr 20, 2013
Jesus never force anyone to be His if they do not want that.
Religion have to be freedom of choice not force of human systems or religion tradition.
If we put Bible teach in school who will teach and how present Bible in big diversity of Christian Churches today.
Believer

Grayson, KY

#100365 Apr 20, 2013
I believe the class should be offered but only with a parents signiture.

“There is no god”

Since: Jul 12

War, WV

#100366 Apr 20, 2013
Praying for the rapture wrote:
What is God waiting on?
And you will get exactly what the people who prayed that Romney would win the election got
religion freedom

Canton, OH

#100367 Apr 20, 2013
I believe in Christian education, and we as a parents we got big responsibility how educate our kids about God.
Bible teaching is not a class,it is LIFE style 24/7
Mix Spiritual teaching with public school system teaching can come to conflict

“See how you are?”

Since: Jul 12

Earth

#100368 Apr 20, 2013
TruthIS wrote:
<quoted text>
Oh good, and thank you-my decency, compassion, ethics and sense of wanting to treat others with humane-ness, finds abhorrent, depraved behavior unworthy of self application!
Like many others, you seem to gauge people's "decency, compassion, ethics" based on how closely their practiced faith mirrors your own. And if someone professes no faith in a deity they are filled with inhumane-ness, abhorrence and depravity?
http://www.topix.com/forum/city/campbellsvill...
How insightful, special and droll of you.

“There is no god”

Since: Jul 12

War, WV

#100369 Apr 20, 2013
You can have all the faith you want, that still does not give you rights over others. Your "faith" does not give you the right to violate the rights of other people
Proteus

Columbus, OH

#100370 Apr 20, 2013
If the school receives Federal Funding it would be Illegal for them to teach the Bible. Goes against freedom of religion. Unless they create and facilitate classes on all religions. So, it's all or none. Your choice.

“There is no god”

Since: Jul 12

War, WV

#100371 Apr 20, 2013
Proteus wrote:
If the school receives Federal Funding it would be Illegal for them to teach the Bible. Goes against freedom of religion. Unless they create and facilitate classes on all religions. So, it's all or none. Your choice.
I do think that Satanism should be taught if the bible is taught

“There is no god”

Since: Jul 12

War, WV

#100372 Apr 20, 2013
The government is denying me my faiths right to burn christians alive
Believer

Grayson, KY

#100373 Apr 20, 2013
I'm really sick of others Rights taking away from god fearing Americans. We can not live as our parents did because of others rights. We can't hang our gods pics, can't spank our children. Most are so busy we can't even be friends or neighbors. It's a sad world.
Known Fact

Kissimmee, FL

#100374 Apr 20, 2013
Proteus wrote:
If the school receives Federal Funding it would be Illegal for them to teach the Bible. Goes against freedom of religion. Unless they create and facilitate classes on all religions. So, it's all or none. Your choice.
I suppose thar eliminates the Religion of evolution! Good riddance!
gary

Los Angeles, CA

#100375 Apr 20, 2013
Im just glad they didn't when I was in school. That would suck.If you could choose to be in a class like that but didn't have to. It would be ok.

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