Bible study rules for public schools proposed

Feb 10, 2010 | Posted by: roboblogger | Full story: The Courier-Journal

FRANKFORT, Ky. - The state would create rules for teaching about the Bible in public high schools under a bill filed Monday by three Democratic senators.

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So your god has a "plan" and that plan includes priest raping children, starvation, children being beaten, disease, poor people not getting needed medical treatment, war
Than I say fu ck your god's plan and fu ck your god.
Such evil should not be worshiped, such evil is not love
You can brow beat a Christian all day long with the Problem of Evil but it won't stick. They usually go with Free Will as their escape plan. Then you point out that a baby dying of a horrible disease does not involve Free Will. So they go for the "God's plan is too big for us to see."

If they go for that, ask them if they can't fathom God's moral thinking then how on earth do they claim ANY knowledge about anything God says at all? If God can watch a baby raped and murdered and somehow it's all part of his plan...then can't God also be telling massive lies in the Bible as part of that same plan?

And if that's the case, how do they know which parts of the Bible are the lies and which the truths, if any?

Ah....logic is not the domain of faith.

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<quoted text>I was asking about god not jesus.
If jesus is god than why does the bible claim he cried out "my god my god why have you forsaken me?"
Depends on which of the Gospels you read. The first one, Mark, doesn't refer to Jesus as God. I think as you read the other Gospels they speak more and more of Jesus being divine. The myth grows in the telling.
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My comment was in response to you belittling an idea you obviously do not really understand. You linked to a website with a flashing test at the top...not a good sign. Usually indicates amateur or kooksville authorship. I don't know, I didn't bother to read it. Looks like maybe a student's website? The bibliography had no books written after the mid 90s. Do a casual Google on astronomy in the past decade and you'll see that this has been the most exciting, rapidly changing time for astronomy in many decades. In other words, the article is way out of date.
If I could tell you how the universe started there would be a name for me: famous.
I have no idea how it started. The theory we have is based on observation and evidence. It could easily be wrong. The universe is a really big place, you know. But guess what? Science is all about finding truth. Unlike religion, which starts out with an answer and works its way out from there, science starts with questions. Sometimes the answers change. But always they are the best we have at the moment.
Beautiful, isn't it?
I am a believer in God. WHY? answer , "Because I am smart enough to know that I am not wise enough to figure out the universe". Beautiful ,isn't it ?So I do not even think about how everything was made. Remember Einstein ,he became so involved in scientific research ,he forgot how to tie his shoes. We need science to study ways to improve our health,do research to invent new more modern inventions and etc. But man can not figure out the mystery of how or why we are all here. So friend ,I hope you find peace and enjoy this life ,not worrying over trivial things which matter less. PS - In my family we have doctors,nurses,psychologist,an d a radiologist. So yes we know something about science.

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That's 143,000 tons *relative to* Earth. In space it certainly does not weight 143,000 tons. Different worlds have different atmospheres, different gravity.
That's the point Q was making. Weight is relative to the world on which something is being weighed.
You know that is too much information for a fundie to grasp.
You are just messing with his/her little mind huh? Because the christian cult hates information and facts. Truth is their greatest fear

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You can brow beat a Christian all day long with the Problem of Evil but it won't stick. They usually go with Free Will as their escape plan. Then you point out that a baby dying of a horrible disease does not involve Free Will. So they go for the "God's plan is too big for us to see."
If they go for that, ask them if they can't fathom God's moral thinking then how on earth do they claim ANY knowledge about anything God says at all? If God can watch a baby raped and murdered and somehow it's all part of his plan...then can't God also be telling massive lies in the Bible as part of that same plan?
And if that's the case, how do they know which parts of the Bible are the lies and which the truths, if any?
Ah....logic is not the domain of faith.
I am stealing this to post on Alva Satanic churches FB page. I will give you credit

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I am a believer in God. WHY? answer , "Because I am smart enough to know that I am not wise enough to figure out the universe". Beautiful ,isn't it ?So I do not even think about how everything was made. Remember Einstein ,he became so involved in scientific research ,he forgot how to tie his shoes. We need science to study ways to improve our health,do research to invent new more modern inventions and etc. But man can not figure out the mystery of how or why we are all here. So friend ,I hope you find peace and enjoy this life ,not worrying over trivial things which matter less. PS - In my family we have doctors,nurses,psychologist,an d a radiologist. So yes we know something about science.
No, you are a believer in god because you are not smart enough to look for answers so you fall back on superstition and myth

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Depends on which of the Gospels you read. The first one, Mark, doesn't refer to Jesus as God. I think as you read the other Gospels they speak more and more of Jesus being divine. The myth grows in the telling.
Until jesus becomes a white American republican that loves every one except the poor and believes war is good because America blah blah blah

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@ ever consider
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Have you ever considered that you worship a god that Arabs invented to justify their murder, rape, theft and promote themselves?
Have you ever considered that your god and your jesus are towel head Arabs not white Americans?
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<quoted text>No, you are a believer in god because you are not smart enough to look for answers so you fall back on superstition and myth
I feel so sorry for all you "haters ". I pray that whether you believe in God or not that you stop hating. Just relax ,who cares. I do not waste my time hating those who believe in evolution,you have that right. No one cares .I am going to watch a movie ,and enjoy a snack.Goodnight .No actually goodbye,I like Topix but this subject has been discussed over ,over and over.:)

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Fair is fair. I'll read the article and give you my honest opinion. Will you be willing to read an article I pick and give me your honest opinion? Or even something a little more simple since I know how you feel about sites labeled as Apostate. How about just answering a question or two without the using copy/paste?
It is against the christian belief to be honest and tell the truth
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Where is the part that can't be explained logically? I must have missed it.
My good man
I t is there,very plain to see.Go back and read SLOWLY,what I posted. If you still can not understand it,that is not my fault.
That you may understand it,and are unable to adequately respond is another matter altogether
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Here's a link to the article.
http://www.jw.org/en/publications/magazines/w...
I'm glad you know how to axcess the jw website. If you ever want help you know where to turn.
Well at least I tried.

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I am a believer in God. WHY? answer , "Because I am smart enough to know that I am not wise enough to figure out the universe". Beautiful ,isn't it ?So I do not even think about how everything was made. Remember Einstein ,he became so involved in scientific research ,he forgot how to tie his shoes. We need science to study ways to improve our health,do research to invent new more modern inventions and etc. But man can not figure out the mystery of how or why we are all here. So friend ,I hope you find peace and enjoy this life ,not worrying over trivial things which matter less. PS - In my family we have doctors,nurses,psychologist,an d a radiologist. So yes we know something about science.
I think that is a terrible way to view the world. You don't know everything......therefore God? That's a logical fallacy right off the bat. Argument from Ignorance, I think.

Also, it sounds like you are saying that science is only useful insofar as it does not dive into questions you feel are answered only by God. But science does not actually have such a boundary.

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I am a believer in God. WHY? answer , "Because I am smart enough to know that I am not wise enough to figure out the universe". Beautiful ,isn't it ?So I do not even think about how everything was made. Remember Einstein ,he became so involved in scientific research ,he forgot how to tie his shoes. We need science to study ways to improve our health,do research to invent new more modern inventions and etc. But man can not figure out the mystery of how or why we are all here. So friend ,I hope you find peace and enjoy this life ,not worrying over trivial things which matter less. PS - In my family we have doctors,nurses,psychologist,an d a radiologist. So yes we know something about science.
You left out that your family also had a Goofy Guy in it...

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I think that is a terrible way to view the world. You don't know everything......therefore God? That's a logical fallacy right off the bat. Argument from Ignorance, I think.
Also, it sounds like you are saying that science is only useful insofar as it does not dive into questions you feel are answered only by God. But science does not actually have such a boundary.
A good movie to watch....
http://youtu.be/xAWf3F8_zQk

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I feel so sorry for all you "haters ". I pray that whether you believe in God or not that you stop hating. Just relax ,who cares. I do not waste my time hating those who believe in evolution,you have that right. No one cares .I am going to watch a movie ,and enjoy a snack.Goodnight .No actually goodbye,I like Topix but this subject has been discussed over ,over and over.:)
You have a different name, but your posting style is just like CURIOUS (I think). You tend to incorrectly space your words or leave spaces out. Maybe you are a totally different person, I don't know.

Anyway, I don't hate. But I do love a good debate. When a person puts his beliefs out in public and makes a claim about reality then the game is on. Defend your beliefs with reason or don't put them on the line.

Also, as I said in another post, I actually care what people believe because they vote. I don't want to live in a country dominated by stupidity. Right now in our Federal Government there are dozens of old farts who are either extremely stupid or completely lacking a moral backbone. They claim to reject evolution, blame rape victims for being raped, and reject critical thinking as a tool of Satan.

I don't want those people voted into any office, not even dogcatcher.

So I care about what people believe.

Michele f*cking Bachmann has a job in government because some yokels refuse to get an education. That should terrify you.

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You have a different name, but your posting style is just like CURIOUS (I think). You tend to incorrectly space your words or leave spaces out. Maybe you are a totally different person, I don't know.
Anyway, I don't hate. But I do love a good debate. When a person puts his beliefs out in public and makes a claim about reality then the game is on. Defend your beliefs with reason or don't put them on the line.
Also, as I said in another post, I actually care what people believe because they vote. I don't want to live in a country dominated by stupidity. Right now in our Federal Government there are dozens of old farts who are either extremely stupid or completely lacking a moral backbone. They claim to reject evolution, blame rape victims for being raped, and reject critical thinking as a tool of Satan.
I don't want those people voted into any office, not even dogcatcher.
So I care about what people believe.
Michele f*cking Bachmann has a job in government because some yokels refuse to get an education. That should terrify you.
No, I think "CURIOUS" has some balls for a religie, "consider" said bye back at post 99402 just wants attention, kinda like a bad cold just when you think its gone it keeps coming back....

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In john 1 it states,

In the beginning was the word, and the word was with god, and the word was god.......

And the Word was made flesh, and dwelt among us

God in a jesus suit.

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Summon your god against me, let him do his worst, try his best against me. For I am strong and stand on my own two feet.(Plus I have a chariot of iron)
You sound like Lt. Dan

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This event did not lead to my having full faith and trust in God and Jesus Christ,but it did provide me with a semblance of faith,,,,Subsequent events that were also resolved as a result of praying to Go in the name of Jesus have resulted in receiving a positive response to my prayers,building my faith gradually,step by step.
So yes,My God is alive and responds to prayer,not because one is good,wealthy,famous or powerful,
But because one DILIGENTLY seeks him,as he has instructed..
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