Bible study rules for public schools proposed

Feb 10, 2010 Full story: The Courier-Journal 131,393

FRANKFORT, Ky. - The state would create rules for teaching about the Bible in public high schools under a bill filed Monday by three Democratic senators.

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curious

Ocoee, FL

#99306 Apr 11, 2013
Skeptical Spectacles wrote:
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You'd like to think that wouldn't you? The problem with your post here...well, one problem with your post here is the fact that almost every "unbeliever" is a former "believer". So, we're very well qualified to opine on this subject.
No you are not,and let me tell you why;
When I use the word believer,I mean one who not only believes,but also trusts in God and Christ.
If belief in God were the sole criteria for being a Chritian,then the devil would be a Christian,for he also believes and knows that God exists,but refuses to yield to his authority.
I have known many so called Christians who believed in God,but when asked,do you trust in God,and if they adhere to Gog's word and follow his teachings,they begin to stammer.
So,yes,you may have previously beliewved in God,but,obviously did not adhere to his teachings.
since you did not adhere to his teachings,nor tested their validity,that makes you totally unqualified to voice an opinion on something you know nothing about.

“There is no god”

Since: Jul 12

War, WV

#99307 Apr 11, 2013
curious wrote:
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Nice try.You made 3 allegations about me Which you can not substantiate,as evidenced by your inability to provide supporting evidence to said allegations.
Thereby, that does not make you stupid,but it does make you devious and conniving.. You not only are unable to provide any evidence to support your invalid allegations,but have gotten off the beaten track.
Your response is based on emotional anger,unable to prove your point,you attempt to get me into a match of insults by calling me stupid.
I will forgive your ignorance....
Ohhh because you say some thing it must be true. I have made no untrue statements about you. My reply was to the point and was correct.
Again, if you are not arguing for pushing your cult on children in school than what is your point of posting here?
You are just trolling for jesus?

“There is no god”

Since: Jul 12

War, WV

#99308 Apr 11, 2013
curious wrote:
<quoted text>
No you are not,and let me tell you why;
When I use the word believer,I mean one who not only believes,but also trusts in God and Christ.
If belief in God were the sole criteria for being a Chritian,then the devil would be a Christian,for he also believes and knows that God exists,but refuses to yield to his authority.
I have known many so called Christians who believed in God,but when asked,do you trust in God,and if they adhere to Gog's word and follow his teachings,they begin to stammer.
So,yes,you may have previously beliewved in God,but,obviously did not adhere to his teachings.
since you did not adhere to his teachings,nor tested their validity,that makes you totally unqualified to voice an opinion on something you know nothing about.
Side stepping the bible? You twist the bible around to suit your own agenda but the bible is still just a fairy tale. No more real than Santa Claus (how is YOUR faith any more real than a 4 year olds faith in Santa?)

“There is no god”

Since: Jul 12

War, WV

#99309 Apr 11, 2013
curious wrote:
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I never asked you ,or anyone to follow me.You follow whom you believe in.
I never said I heard voices in my head,or tingles in my legs and claimed that to be the basis for my faith.
That version was created in your unreliable Evolutionist mind.
Neither do I believe,as you do,that nonintelligent and nonliving matter ,was able to convert itself,as if by magic, into living intelligent matter.
Since you know where that building is,you better call and make reservations for a room,before the guys in white jackets with nets hunt you down...
PS to those who post gibberish and nonsesnse,one must reply in kind
You do know that your mommy lied to you about Santa Claus right? She also lied about jesus and god.
Sant/jesus about the same really
Do you think superman is real too? But Marval comics number 132 says he is real. It is written that superman will return (or was that batman?)
TruthIS

London, KY

#99310 Apr 11, 2013
ChromiuMan wrote:
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I notice this God fearing Christian has a real affinity for calling people names. "Worm," "dirtbag," et al. Yeah, this is the sort of individual I would want teaching MY kids about the Bible - someone who claims they are tolerant and intelligent, yet is vicious and doesn't even comprehend the common usage of Anno Domini in the Gregorian calendar.
I wouldn't EVEN begin to hold myself(!) out to do such a task! Nor would I want any old anyone attempting to "teach" MY kids (with out my consent) any such thing even resembling, as well.

Why? Of my own expectations, and being of legal adult age, I would only wish to attend such a course, as taught by an actually accredited scholar, in the area of Theology. And I would expect nothing less tha n for my children as well.

(and once again, I did not write the Constitution, I just READ it, including the line that references the signing date as "in the year of our Lord....." etc etc., as the Founding Fathers saw fit to writ!)

Vicious?
Those are mild :-).
However, What you will NOT "hear/read" much of out of myself personally, are the rather blasphemous ignorants of disrespect of others "beliefs".
That's just beyond rude and ignorant, down the rungs to the bottom, at crude, lewd and socially unacceptable.
TruthIS

London, KY

#99311 Apr 11, 2013
Satanic Priest wrote:
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Most colleges have world religion classes, Maybe college aged boys and girls are too old for them?
Where'd you learn that? People are never too old to learn, now are they.
TruthIS

London, KY

#99312 Apr 11, 2013
Satanic Priest wrote:
<quoted text>This country was built on industry and personal rights/individual freedom. In no way was this country built on religion, in fact just the opposite as our fore fathers saw fit to protect us from the christian cult.
Actually, they saw fit to not let government interfere with religion.

Read Thomas Jeffersons letter to the Danbury Baptists.

Had the FF been as almighty wisdom filled as we sometimes speculate them to have been, they'd've implemented an income surtax right then and there.

The American budget DEFICIT might not be HALF as horrible as what it is right now.
TruthIS

London, KY

#99313 Apr 11, 2013
Quantummist wrote:
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Better yet why didn't an all knowing, all powerful God write all his rules down on some light weight indestructible non erasable or editable note pads....
Add sorry azz to my list of vicious names lol.

“There is no god”

Since: Jul 12

War, WV

#99314 Apr 11, 2013
TruthIS wrote:
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Where'd you learn that? People are never too old to learn, now are they.
I mean that the christian cult likes young boys and girls. As we see in the news every day

“Speaker of Mountain Wisdom....”

Since: Jan 10

http://www.panoramio.com/user/

#99315 Apr 11, 2013
curious wrote:
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I never asked you ,or anyone to follow me.You follow whom you believe in.
I never said I heard voices in my head,or tingles in my legs and claimed that to be the basis for my faith.
That version was created in your unreliable Evolutionist mind.
Neither do I believe,as you do,that nonintelligent and nonliving matter ,was able to convert itself,as if by magic, into living intelligent matter.
Since you know where that building is,you better call and make reservations for a room,before the guys in white jackets with nets hunt you down...
PS to those who post gibberish and nonsesnse,one must reply in kind
here's the difference... I understand what you say and can rationally, logically call it for what it is Delusional Mind Set... You on the other hand do not understand the concepts presented due to that same delusional mind set so it seems gibberish and nonsensical... It's part of the delusional process that they design medications for....

“There is no god”

Since: Jul 12

War, WV

#99316 Apr 11, 2013
TruthIS wrote:
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Actually, they saw fit to not let government interfere with religion.
Read Thomas Jeffersons letter to the Danbury Baptists.
Had the FF been as almighty wisdom filled as we sometimes speculate them to have been, they'd've implemented an income surtax right then and there.
The American budget DEFICIT might not be HALF as horrible as what it is right now.
Before labor unions the only people who could afford to pay tax where the wealthy and they owned the politicians even back then.
The FF did a good job with the idea that every one has equal rights and every one is entitled to freedom. There are some who try to say that only the rich land owners had rights but that is refuted by the words "We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal"

“Speaker of Mountain Wisdom....”

Since: Jan 10

http://www.panoramio.com/user/

#99317 Apr 11, 2013
Satanic Priest wrote:
<quoted text>You do know that your mommy lied to you about Santa Claus right? She also lied about jesus and god.
Sant/jesus about the same really
Do you think superman is real too? But Marval comics number 132 says he is real. It is written that superman will return (or was that batman?)
Arnold...
TruthIS

London, KY

#99318 Apr 11, 2013
Satanic Priest wrote:
<quoted text>Before labor unions the only people who could afford to pay tax where the wealthy and they owned the politicians even back then.
The FF did a good job with the idea that every one has equal rights and every one is entitled to freedom. There are some who try to say that only the rich land owners had rights but that is refuted by the words "We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal"
Is supper ready yet?

Meh-en.

(the DEFICIT would not be near what it is, had they had any inkling!!)

“There is no god”

Since: Jul 12

War, WV

#99320 Apr 11, 2013
'OO EE OO AH AH TING TANG WALLA WALLA BING BANG'..

“See how you are?”

Since: Jul 12

Earth

#99321 Apr 11, 2013
curious wrote:
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PS to those who post gibberish and nonsesnse,one must reply in kind
I was wondering about that. Beneath the facade of cultured reasonable acceptance, you could be the same ilk of egocentric holy roller that has tainted religious organizations since the second shaman picked up a rattle. I had thought that it might just be from living in a hick redneck berg, but I now see that your hubris defies granting that others have the ability to grasp your beliefs and faith while you simultaneously boast an inability of grasping others' concepts and credentials.

"Well, there's your problem..." - J. Hyneman

“See how you are?”

Since: Jul 12

Earth

#99322 Apr 11, 2013
TruthIS wrote:
<quoted text>
I wouldn't EVEN begin to hold myself(!) out to do such a task! Nor would I want any old anyone attempting to "teach" MY kids (with out my consent) any such thing even resembling, as well.
Why? Of my own expectations, and being of legal adult age, I would only wish to attend such a course, as taught by an actually accredited scholar, in the area of Theology. And I would expect nothing less tha n for my children as well.
(and once again, I did not write the Constitution, I just READ it, including the line that references the signing date as "in the year of our Lord....." etc etc., as the Founding Fathers saw fit to writ!)
Vicious?
Those are mild :-).
However, What you will NOT "hear/read" much of out of myself personally, are the rather blasphemous ignorants of disrespect of others "beliefs".
That's just beyond rude and ignorant, down the rungs to the bottom, at crude, lewd and socially unacceptable.
Reading and understanding are worlds apart. Your "TruthIS" is a glaring example of that.
"In the year of our lord" is merely the long form English translation of A.D. That would be obvious to one who is not blinded by faith.
There is absolutely NO REASON to have a theologian teaching scripture in a public school.
The proposed legislation was not for religious Bible study, it was to use excerpts of the Bible for secondary school humanities. Things like how and why the Sistine Chapel was painted, the house arrest of Galileo Galilei, how Charlemagne became Emperor and the creation of his laws, the Catholic and Protestant Reformations, the writings of Dante and Voltaire, the European Witch and the Scopes trials, etc. are a few of the thousands of ways that the Bible is interwoven with western culture and history - THAT HAVE ABSOLUTELY NOTHING TO DO WITH SALVATION OF SOULS.
CURIOUS

Ocoee, FL

#99323 Apr 11, 2013
ChromiuMan wrote:
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As has previously attested to, you are unqualified to determine my qualifications in such personal arenas as faith and belief. You are NOT as unique - or Special - as you would like to Believe. "On the other hand," specific observations can be and have been made of brain chemistry, physiology and activity in cases and feelings of religious experiences.
"You know nothing about the process,you understand nothing about the process,thereby you are totally unqualified to opine on something you knw nothing about"
That is a statement known as "false witnessing."
As always, I find myself needing to remind the Christian, MIND YOUR 9TH COMMANDMENT.
By the same token,observations have been made that prayer has cured illnesses.
But let us talk about your observations and to how they would apply to my situation.
Let us satrt out with the Facts,as only I know them
I prayed to have a SPECIFIC problem resolved,Said problem was resolved amd I know that to be a fact...
If My brain chemistry,physiology and activity are tested,what do the results prove or indicate.
Would it indicate that I had an illusion,that what I know happened ,did not really occur. In that case ,I'd probably tell whoever was conducting this observation,what he could do with his report.
Now,since he would not be able to refute the fact that my prayer was amswered,What else could he do? how would he explain it?
That some activity in my brain,of which I am unaware,was able to create the circumstances which resulted in the answer to my prayer?
Since you brought up the subject of this observation process,then I will leave it up yo you,to explain to me how that relates to my situation?

MIND MY FIRST COMMANDMENT; Never post irrational solutions to issues WITH which you are totally unfamil;iar aND are BEYOND YOUR COMPREHENSION

“Question, Explore, Discover”

Since: Dec 11

Location hidden

#99324 Apr 11, 2013
CURIOUS wrote:
<quoted text>
By the same token,observations have been made that prayer has cured illnesses.
But let us talk about your observations and to how they would apply to my situation.
Let us satrt out with the Facts,as only I know them
I prayed to have a SPECIFIC problem resolved,Said problem was resolved amd I know that to be a fact...
If My brain chemistry,physiology and activity are tested,what do the results prove or indicate.
Would it indicate that I had an illusion,that what I know happened ,did not really occur. In that case ,I'd probably tell whoever was conducting this observation,what he could do with his report.
Now,since he would not be able to refute the fact that my prayer was amswered,What else could he do? how would he explain it?
That some activity in my brain,of which I am unaware,was able to create the circumstances which resulted in the answer to my prayer?
Since you brought up the subject of this observation process,then I will leave it up yo you,to explain to me how that relates to my situation?
MIND MY FIRST COMMANDMENT; Never post irrational solutions to issues WITH which you are totally unfamil;iar aND are BEYOND YOUR COMPREHENSION
No one has ever observed a prayer cause an illness to be cured. People pray constantly for things to be cured. The rate of things being cured or just going away is consistent with chance or with the rate we expect them to go away.

The fact that one time out of a million someone says a prayer and then shortly after they actually get better is NOT evidence that prayer works. It's called a Post Hoc Fallacy. I eat ice cream, then lightning strikes my house. Did the ice cream cause the lightning?

Intercessory prayer (praying for other people) has been studied many times. The biggest and most well controlled studies find no evidence that this type of prayer does anything at all.

Now, just praying to yourself has a slim positive affect on how people feel. This is the placebo affect. It is the same kind of thing you get from a massage, meditation, or taking certain drugs like X or something.
CURIOUS

Ocoee, FL

#99325 Apr 11, 2013
Quantummist wrote:
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here's the difference... I understand what you say and can rationally, logically call it for what it is Delusional Mind Set... You on the other hand do not understand the concepts presented due to that same delusional mind set so it seems gibberish and nonsensical... It's part of the delusional process that they design medications for....
Wrong again,you see,God can not be proven to exist,neither by rationalizing or logically, something that YOU are unable to grasp,because you do not believe,Nor can he be proved to be nonexistent by rationalizing and logically.
That my friend Is,A delusional mindset and for that mindset no medication has been designed
Wrong again,you see,God can not be proven to exist,neither by rationalizing or logically, something that YOU are unable to grasp,because you do not believe,Nor can he be proved to be nonexistent by rationalizing and logically.

That my friend Is,A delusional mindset and for that mindset no medication has been designed
Carl Sagan was an agnostic and when asked why he was not an Atheist,responded
"An atheist has to know a lot more than I know. An atheist is someone who knows there is no god. By some definitions atheism is very stupid."

“There is no god”

Since: Jul 12

War, WV

#99326 Apr 11, 2013
CURIOUS wrote:
<quoted text>
Wrong again,you see,God can not be proven to exist,neither by rationalizing or logically, something that YOU are unable to grasp,because you do not believe,Nor can he be proved to be nonexistent by rationalizing and logically.
That my friend Is,A delusional mindset and for that mindset no medication has been designed
Wrong again,you see,God can not be proven to exist,neither by rationalizing or logically, something that YOU are unable to grasp,because you do not believe,Nor can he be proved to be nonexistent by rationalizing and logically.
That my friend Is,A delusional mindset and for that mindset no medication has been designed
Carl Sagan was an agnostic and when asked why he was not an Atheist,responded
"An atheist has to know a lot more than I know. An atheist is someone who knows there is no god. By some definitions atheism is very stupid."
You are going to spend all of eternity in Mordor.

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