Bible study rules for public schools proposed

Feb 10, 2010 Full story: The Courier-Journal 131,073

FRANKFORT, Ky. - The state would create rules for teaching about the Bible in public high schools under a bill filed Monday by three Democratic senators.

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curious

Ocoee, FL

#99156 Apr 9, 2013
Satanic Priest wrote:
<quoted text>The same fantasy that has refuted evolution?
By me. By every thinking human that does not blindly follow.
Hey, if you can just make stuff up so can I.
But I can back up what I say, The Hubble telescope has not seen heaven or god or angels, Voyager 1 has left the solar system with no pictures of your fantasy, the earth is round not flat, germs cause illness not unclean spirits, your cult faked the shroud or Torrin, and so on and so on and scooby dooby doo
Let me start by apologizing for the sarcastic comments I have made about you.There is nothing in the teachings of Christ that permits that type of behaviour.
What he did teach is,If you feel someone offended you, forgive them,I,instead,erred in responding in a sarcastic manner,which only served to exacerbate the situation and I SHOULD HAVE KNOWN BETTER.Therefore the basis for my apology.

I have never refuted the Scienticic theory of how life came into existence ,nor have I refuted the theory of evolution.
I have rejected them because;
Science is unable to prove how life came into being,they have theories as to how it may have happened,based on suppositions.
Neither can Evolution explain how life came into being,it can on ly theorize as to how life evolved.
If I accept that life evolved from something previously created,then I have to believe in an infinitesimal process that is logically impossible.
If the egg came before the chicken,then who created the egg.If the egg evolved from some previous existing matter,who created that matter.It is apparent ,to me,that,if I follow that process I can go on and on to infinity,,,Or conclude that at some point in time nothing existed and somehow,nothing was able to create itself into some type of existing matter. That is truly difficult for me to comprehend.It is logically impossible for NOTHING to transform itself into some type of matter,out of it's own accord.
There is no known way to test that process.
curious

Ocoee, FL

#99157 Apr 9, 2013
But,If,someone devised a method by which I could test that process, no matter how absurd I may believe that process to be and I had the wherewithal with which to test it,I would.
Then,I would be able to draw my conclusions ,based on actual results,whether positive or negative.
Nowhere does it say in the Bible,that if you want to find God,you can do so by sending a spaceship into outer space.
But ,it does say ; If you diligently seek me,you will find me;
And what does diligently imply=Putting his instructions to the test, many of which you can find in Matt 5;1 to 25
In those verses you will find the answer to some of your legitimate complaints against some of those who claim to be Christians and are not.
Then go to Romans 1;28 to 32 and Rom2;1.
It will take you about 5 minutes.
If ,after reading these,you consider them nonsense ,I will understand. I used to be an Agnostic and initially felt the same way.

On the other hand,you may discard them as nonsense without reading them at all

But,I reached a point in my life ,where I put them to the test and found them to be valid.
If ,I had found them to be INVALID, THEN my faith would be based on wishful thinking

“There is no god”

Since: Jul 12

War, WV

#99158 Apr 9, 2013
curious wrote:
<quoted text>
Let me start by apologizing for the sarcastic comments I have made about you.There is nothing in the teachings of Christ that permits that type of behaviour.
What he did teach is,If you feel someone offended you, forgive them,I,instead,erred in responding in a sarcastic manner,which only served to exacerbate the situation and I SHOULD HAVE KNOWN BETTER.Therefore the basis for my apology.
I have never refuted the Scienticic theory of how life came into existence ,nor have I refuted the theory of evolution.
I have rejected them because;
Science is unable to prove how life came into being,they have theories as to how it may have happened,based on suppositions.
Neither can Evolution explain how life came into being,it can on ly theorize as to how life evolved.
If I accept that life evolved from something previously created,then I have to believe in an infinitesimal process that is logically impossible.
If the egg came before the chicken,then who created the egg.If the egg evolved from some previous existing matter,who created that matter.It is apparent ,to me,that,if I follow that process I can go on and on to infinity,,,Or conclude that at some point in time nothing existed and somehow,nothing was able to create itself into some type of existing matter. That is truly difficult for me to comprehend.It is logically impossible for NOTHING to transform itself into some type of matter,out of it's own accord.
There is no known way to test that process.
Fair and honest, I will refrain my negitive comments towards you now.
Keep in mind, most of my comments are aimed towards the people who go to church to be seen, look down at others, judge others, and have no clue.
If you really believe than my comments are not meant for you.
nothing makes something

Morehead, KY

#99159 Apr 9, 2013
Satanic Priest wrote:
<quoted text>The thread has evolved.
I am in favor of teaching the Satanic bible in schools. What? Oh you mean ONLY the christian cults bible, nope never
As you can read Satanic Priest believes in satanic worship. So no one is judging him wrongly. He admits he believes in devil worship. And santanic priests said ,that the bible said rape the women. Wrong . Give us the scripture . God is love,people kill,Jesus said and so does the ten commandments thy shall not kill.(war? God does not want people to kill ,but he certainly does not want for us to let evil people make us slaves and kill our families. It would be good that there never was a war ,but our soldiers today (christian and nonbelievers alike ) fight wars to protect us. Would you rather that they didn't? I would say some of you may get off your lazy butts and stop someone from killing you or your family! And I wager that most of those who oppose the bible because of killing,have stocked piled guns and uphold the NRA! Give-up your insane theory that nothing made everything. Get a life you nonbelievers. Christians are not cowards ,but prefer not to have wars .Keep on posting ,you crack us up with your big NOTHING pile of poo making everything out of nothing !I get a big laugh everytime I read these pposts. makes my day. humor and laughter helps us to lighhten up and relax. Can't wait for your next posts .:)

“There is no god”

Since: Jul 12

War, WV

#99160 Apr 9, 2013
nothing makes something wrote:
<quoted text>
As you can read Satanic Priest believes in satanic worship. So no one is judging him wrongly. He admits he believes in devil worship. And santanic priests said ,that the bible said rape the women. Wrong . Give us the scripture . God is love,people kill,Jesus said and so does the ten commandments thy shall not kill.(war? God does not want people to kill ,but he certainly does not want for us to let evil people make us slaves and kill our families. It would be good that there never was a war ,but our soldiers today (christian and nonbelievers alike ) fight wars to protect us. Would you rather that they didn't? I would say some of you may get off your lazy butts and stop someone from killing you or your family! And I wager that most of those who oppose the bible because of killing,have stocked piled guns and uphold the NRA! Give-up your insane theory that nothing made everything. Get a life you nonbelievers. Christians are not cowards ,but prefer not to have wars .Keep on posting ,you crack us up with your big NOTHING pile of poo making everything out of nothing !I get a big laugh everytime I read these pposts. makes my day. humor and laughter helps us to lighhten up and relax. Can't wait for your next posts .:)
Ther has not been a war fought to PROTECT us since WW2. And christians love war. proven over and over. jehovah is the devil and your jesus said that you can not come to him unless you HATE your father, mother, brother, etc
Luke 14:26 If any man come to me, and hate not his father, and mother, and wife, and children, and brethren, and sisters, yea, and his own life also, he cannot be my disciple.
nothing makes something

Morehead, KY

#99161 Apr 9, 2013
Mike Duquette wrote:
<quoted text>Their is not a word written in the days Jesus was claimed to be on earth that exists today. People wrote about the supposed Jesus after the fact.
I say again, if reading and writing made a being superior, then why did Jesus not leave us his writings?
Why am I to believe someones claims of what the supposed Jesus said? If it was so damn important, I think a god could write it himself so no one could screw it up. As it is now, we have many various interpretations of what Jesus wanted due to lack of confirmed and consistent written words by what you claim were his scribes.
Open the bible to the New Testament ,everything written in red is a direct quote of Jesus . No one is asking or making you or your family,or your friends believe in God. so why care if others do. you can believe what you want ,but do not tell lies about the bible or God. You can chose any religion or no religion ,or worship the devil,or worship evolution. your choice . Blessings my friend.
Nothing makes nothing

Morehead, KY

#99162 Apr 9, 2013
Satanic Priest wrote:
<quoted text>Ther has not been a war fought to PROTECT us since WW2. And christians love war. proven over and over. jehovah is the devil and your jesus said that you can not come to him unless you HATE your father, mother, brother, etc
Luke 14:26 If any man come to me, and hate not his father, and mother, and wife, and children, and brethren, and sisters, yea, and his own life also, he cannot be my disciple.
I apologize for anything offensive i said. Sorry

First of all as a christian ,I do not claim to know every answer .
But the Bible says to rightly divide the word of God (so everything I read can not be just taken in context . As this says :
Study to show thyself approved to God, a workman that needed not to be ashamed, rightly dividing the word of truth.( 2nd Timothy -2:15.
First of all we know that Jesus taught love ,Love and to honor thy parents,Love thy neighbor. So sometimes even i and other christians can not fully understand everything. Love & prayers
GWB

Roseville, CA

#99164 Apr 9, 2013
really wrote:
<quoted text>people needs to read
Will it convert you to Catholic? Videos on youtube say the pope is the anti-christ.

What do you think?

“I Am No One Else”

Since: Apr 12

Seattle

#99165 Apr 9, 2013
Yes and Amen wrote:
<quoted text>Not trying to hurt anyone's feelings!
Just want you to open your eyes to the truth!
If sperm hits an egg, and goes un-interrupted... it
becomes a Baby!
Killing one before it comes out... it's still a baby...
A Dead Baby!
What do you believe?
So you have not once opened a biology book above fifth grade.

“I Am No One Else”

Since: Apr 12

Seattle

#99166 Apr 9, 2013
nothing makes something wrote:
<quoted text>
Open the bible to the New Testament ,everything written in red is a direct quote of Jesus . No one is asking or making you or your family,or your friends believe in God. so why care if others do. you can believe what you want ,but do not tell lies about the bible or God. You can chose any religion or no religion ,or worship the devil,or worship evolution. your choice . Blessings my friend.
.... and you know this because ....?

If you say "faith" then you don't know what knowledge is.

“There is no god”

Since: Jul 12

War, WV

#99167 Apr 9, 2013
nothing makes something wrote:
<quoted text>
Open the bible to the New Testament ,everything written in red is a direct quote of Jesus . No one is asking or making you or your family,or your friends believe in God. so why care if others do. you can believe what you want ,but do not tell lies about the bible or God. You can chose any religion or no religion ,or worship the devil,or worship evolution. your choice . Blessings my friend.

Any time I say something about the bible I post the verse so you can read it so do not call me a liar when I post the whole verse.
As for worshiping the devil, do you think that people who kill animals for blood ritual sacrifice, rejoice as they are killing babies, slaughter whole towns but keep the women to rape are devil worshipers?
Than you think that christians are devil worshipers because that is what YOUR god demanded.
kill every man in the town. But you may keep for yourselves all the women, children, livestock, and other plunder. You may enjoy the spoils of your enemies that the LORD your God has given you.
Deuteronomy 20:14
Anyone who is captured will be run through with a sword. Their little children will be dashed to death right before their eyes. Their homes will be sacked and their wives raped by the attacking hordes. For I will stir up the Medes against Babylon, and no amount of silver or gold will buy them off. The attacking armies will shoot down the young people with arrows. They will have no mercy on helpless babies and will show no compassion for the children.(Isaiah 13:15-18
Psalm 137:9
King James Version (KJV)
9 Happy shall he be, that taketh and dasheth thy little ones against the stones.
YOUR god is the evil devil, YOU are the devil worshiper.
You can say that you are good all that you want but your bible proves that you worship evil.
Actions tell the truth
curious

Ocoee, FL

#99169 Apr 9, 2013
Satanic Priest wrote:
<quoted text>Ther has not been a war fought to PROTECT us since WW2. And christians love war. proven over and over. jehovah is the devil and your jesus said that you can not come to him unless you HATE your father, mother, brother, etc
Luke 14:26 If any man come to me, and hate not his father, and mother, and wife, and children, and brethren, and sisters, yea, and his own life also, he cannot be my disciple.
It is true,Jesus said those words and on the surface they appear as shocking and a total contradiction to his teachings.
Let us put things into perspective and see if there is information in the Bible that will clear up this contradiction.
Jesus taught in parables and at the time, he was teaching a crowd that had gathered to hear his teachings,
the key lies in the wording of"hate his own LIFE also. He did not say ,Hate yourself also
I can hate my life,due to the reason that,based on the fact that I lead my life according to my human nature,my life is not fullfilled.
Human nature has many bad components,Wecheat,we lie,we are envious,we steal,we are disrespectful of others,insolent,proud,boasters ,unmerciful,full of anger,unforgiving." Apostle Paul in Romans 3;28.32
In closing he states" He can not be my disciple,
In other words,those who live according to their human nature can not please God and cannot be Jesus's disciples. So neither Christ nor God hate the individual,they hate the manner in which they conduct their lives.

Now if we go to
Matthew 12:47-50
New King James Version (NKJV)

47 Then one said to Him,“Look, Your mother and Your brothers are standing outside, seeking to speak with You.”

48 But He answered and said to the one who told Him,
“Who is My mother and who are My brothers?” 49 And He stretched out His hand toward His disciples and said,“Here are My mother and My brothers! 50
For whoever does the will of My Father in heaven is My brother and sister and mother
By the way, Thanks for accepting my apology.
curious

Ocoee, FL

#99170 Apr 9, 2013
correction,Paragraph before" NOw if we goto mathew 12;47.50 should read
In other words,those who live according to their human nature can not please God and cannot be Jesus's disciples. So neither Christ nor God hate the individual,they hate the manner in which we conduct our lives.

“Speaker of Mountain Wisdom....”

Since: Jan 10

http://www.panoramio.com/user/

#99171 Apr 9, 2013
A Moment of Zen and Bug Porn....

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Nothing makes nothing

Morehead, KY

#99172 Apr 9, 2013
Satanic Priest wrote:
nothing makes something wrote:
<quoted text>
Open the bible to the New Testament ,everything written in red is a direct quote of Jesus . No one is asking or making you or your family,or your friends believe in God. so why care if others do. you can believe what you want ,but do not tell lies about the bible or God. You can chose any religion or no religion ,or worship the devil,or worship evolution. your choice . Blessings my friend.
Any time I say something about the bible I post the verse so you can read it so do not call me a liar when I post the whole verse.
As for worshiping the devil, do you think that people who kill animals for blood ritual sacrifice, rejoice as they are killing babies, slaughter whole towns but keep the women to rape are devil worshipers?
Than you think that christians are devil worshipers because that is what YOUR god demanded.
kill every man in the town. But you may keep for yourselves all the women, children, livestock, and other plunder. You may enjoy the spoils of your enemies that the LORD your God has given you.
Deuteronomy 20:14
Anyone who is captured will be run through with a sword. Their little children will be dashed to death right before their eyes. Their homes will be sacked and their wives raped by the attacking hordes. For I will stir up the Medes against Babylon, and no amount of silver or gold will buy them off. The attacking armies will shoot down the young people with arrows. They will have no mercy on helpless babies and will show no compassion for the children.(Isaiah 13:15-18
Psalm 137:9
King James Version (KJV)
9 Happy shall he be, that taketh and dasheth thy little ones against the stones.
YOUR god is the evil devil, YOU are the devil worshiper.
You can say that you are good all that you want but your bible proves that you worship evil.
Actions tell the truth
Clearly everything that Moses and others done was not always God's will. For Ex: "Jesus replied, "Moses permitted divorce only as a concession to your hard hearts, but it was not what God had originally intended."( If Moses allowed this ,even though it was against God's law ,he could have allowed many things not of God.
The ten commandments ,tell us not to kill. Jesus through out the new Testament criticizes and condemns many of the things the jews did.
The very reason Jesus came to earth was to help the Jews to stop a of the things they were doing. EX: The people wanted to stone the woman caught in adultery,but Jesus would not allow them to do it . John Chapter 8 verses 3-12 I love the book of Psalms and the new testament .Jesus is the true image of a loving God.
Question

Morehead, KY

#99173 Apr 9, 2013
I have a question why do you guys spend so much time reading bible verses ,just to argue? Why does it trouble you what another's belief is ? Evolution is something I do not believe ,but I care less if you want & do. I do not want to stop you,nor do I bother writing example after example on the foolish of it.
Why ,have you all asked yourself ??
Question

Morehead, KY

#99176 Apr 9, 2013
-NEPHILIM- wrote:
<quoted text>
My childhood sucked growing up in a religious cult. Why wouldn't I want to try and help some other kid going through the same thing I had too? Thinking God was going to kill me because I didn't want to serve him is not a good feeling.
If Christians quit shoving their beliefs down everyone's throats then I'm sure a lot of us would stop complaining about it.
I feel sorry for you then;I went to Sunday school and church and I loved it ! I knew that God was good,and he loved me. We had youht group which taught us to be kind to everyone ,do not cuss,do not smoke,do not get drunk,do not take drugs,do not kill,do not lie,do not steal-All which helped me live a good and happy life. Never been in trouble,never been in jail. 65 and still loving church,love singing praise and worship songs,having dinners at church,playing ball games and having friends -What is wrong with all this?
kay

London, KY

#99177 Apr 9, 2013
they should teach it in school
GWB

Roseville, CA

#99179 Apr 9, 2013
Question wrote:
<quoted text>
I feel sorry for you then;I went to Sunday school and church and I loved it ! I knew that God was good,and he loved me. We had youht group which taught us to be kind to everyone ,do not cuss,do not smoke,do not get drunk,do not take drugs,do not kill,do not lie,do not steal-All which helped me live a good and happy life. Never been in trouble,never been in jail. 65 and still loving church,love singing praise and worship songs,having dinners at church,playing ball games and having friends -What is wrong with all this?
That's interesting, any christian cults I should stay away from? Can you list them?
GWB

Roseville, CA

#99180 Apr 9, 2013
kay wrote:
they should teach it in school
Brother Micah teaches at a university.

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