Bible study rules for public schools proposed

Feb 10, 2010 Full story: The Courier-Journal 131,619

FRANKFORT, Ky. - The state would create rules for teaching about the Bible in public high schools under a bill filed Monday by three Democratic senators.

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“Speaker of Mountain Wisdom....”

Since: Jan 10

Somerset, KY

#99253 Apr 10, 2013
TruthIs wrote:
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Too bad for you-wrong again, worm. I did well enough in Physics, so there.
Great! But you do know that the Physics class was not the one with the lockers and group showers with your buds after running laps right?
Nothing makes nothing

Morehead, KY

#99254 Apr 10, 2013
Nothing makes nothing wrote:
Oh in case your answer is Science . Remember scientist now admit they are not certain on any theory. Did you read the preceding article by
Kaufmann, William J., III. Galaxies and Quasars. San Fransisco: W.H. Freeman and Company, 1979.
Silk, Joseph. A Short History of the Universe. New York: Scientific American Library,
Yiago
“Question, Explore, Discover”
Link to Article on Sciencist not sure of anything ,which I posted. Read for yourself http://www.umich.edu/~gs265/bigbang.htm
Nothing makes nothing

Morehead, KY

#99255 Apr 10, 2013
curious wrote:
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I am not equipped to explain why other religions believe as they do.
The only thing I am equipped to explain is my deeply held belief in the existence of God,Jesus Christ and my faith.
How someone else came by their faith,only they can explain.
The only ones who can explain MY faith is me, and God ,who made it grow
Your faith is an inspiration to those who believe:and very much needed in this world of so many turning from faith in God. Thank you so much for sharing especially on how God answered your prayer at a critical time. I can relate to this ,it brings back memories of a time when God answered my prayer when nothing or no one could help.Jesus did. Praise unto our Lord Jesus forever brother. Love & prayers Friend
Yes and Amen

Georgetown, KY

#99256 Apr 10, 2013
KittenKoder wrote:
<quoted text>
So you have not once opened a biology book above fifth grade.
Yes I have...
I also helped my Mother study for her RN exam 40 years ago..
before Roe v Wade! Murder is Murder!
The Great thing is...
God will forgive you... If you ask!
Yes and Amen

Georgetown, KY

#99258 Apr 10, 2013
ChromiuMan wrote:
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The Earth is 6,000 years old.
4300 +/- years ago the entire Earth was flooded to a depth that covered the mountains.
The Creator of all space-time impregnated a carpenter's wife - who just happened to still be a virgin...?
YOU are proud to believe all the crap you say?
Its amazing the lengths people will go to to preserve their God Given Right to remain blissfully unaware.
"Its amazing the lengths people will go to to preserve their God Given Right to remain blissfully unaware"
Yes you do!
LOL

“Breaking the spell ”

Since: Dec 10

of the puppet master

#99259 Apr 11, 2013
do whut wrote:
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Three reasons I think little was written until after His death.
1. There was little time. They traveled with Him and He taught constantly. They spent a lot of time figuring things out when He said it. His teachings were above most men.
2. His countenance was not that anyone should desire Him. He seemed a plain and simple man. He did not seem like the Son of God to most (at least what they assumed that would look like). They thought He was going to be a king and relieve them of Roman rule. They misunderstood His purpose was to save them in the next life, not this one.
3. They were afraid for their lives. They just watched their master killed and they knew He had the power to prevent it.
Not the best excuses. I say again, why did the Jesus not write the words if his ideas were so complex? Why leave it to those who were so confused as you claim?

“Breaking the spell ”

Since: Dec 10

of the puppet master

#99260 Apr 11, 2013
nothing makes something wrote:
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Open the bible to the New Testament ,everything written in red is a direct quote of Jesus . No one is asking or making you or your family,or your friends believe in God. so why care if others do. you can believe what you want ,but do not tell lies about the bible or God. You can chose any religion or no religion ,or worship the devil,or worship evolution. your choice . Blessings my friend.
What is in red is a claim of what Jesus said. "Claim" is the key word here. Some of the red words differ from one book to the next. One claims Jesus forgives them for they know not what they do, the other claims he asks god why he has been forsaken.

Since: Aug 10

Location hidden

#99261 Apr 11, 2013
curious wrote:
<quoted text>
The role of science is to understand and explain that which occurs in the Natural World. Faith is not based on that foundation
...
Therefore Faith can not be proven or tested by Scientific Methods.
Then why, for the love of sanity, do you keep trying to treat them as equals? They are not interchangeable, but your arguments are based on them being on equal footing.
curious wrote:
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...
I am going to repeat something I previously posted.
When I was an Agnostic,and had no faith,...
I decided to try and see if this God I did not believe in,could help me.
I prayed for a solution and during the time I was praying,unbeknownst to me,my prayer was answered,but not in the manner that I had requested. I found out about it 7 hours later
Now,I know the circumstances under which that prayer was answered,but,could not figure out logically,what caused those circumstances.
...

Over the years my faith was tested in many different ways.
Other Requests that I made to God,in prayer,for which I could find no solution,were answered,some,overnight,some within a few weeks,without any further effort on my part.
Each time a request was answered,my faith grew more and more.
So what you describe as strong feelings,is erroneous,I have a strong belief,based on the responses thay I have received.
...
If they had not been answered,would only have confirmed what I,then believed...There is no God.
Let me ask you a question,I know you are an Atheist and you would never pray to something you don't believe in
But,let us suppose,that,like myself,you found yourself in a grievious situation which you could not resolve and in desperation you decided to test God ,not that you believe in him,but,HOPINGN that there is a GOD and HOPING that he will respond, And to your joy and surprise,that prayer is answered Subsequent prayers,are also answered in like fashion....What would you conclude?
Thai is the basis for my belief in God and my faith...Not on emotions ,feelings or the opinion of others,but based on the FACT that I know my prayers were answered.
The evidence you are looking for WILLnot be found in a laboratory,as only God is capable of providing that evidence
Everything you just described exemplifies what I'm saying. It is not evidence. It's emotionally charged experiences. The fact that you don't understand everything that happens around you is no reason to inject magic. Good things happen sometimes, bad things happen sometimes, it's life. Sometimes things work out...sometimes they don't. We live in a very complex system. Even if you think you lead a simple life, you're exposed to enormous amount of external factors that can affect you (both positively and negatively) on a daily basis.
I also know that I can talk myself into things. It's relatively easy... especially over an extended period of time.(e.g., "I should buy a jet ski"). If it's something you want, your mind will find ways to reinforce the belief (e.g., "I'll feel younger if I owned a jet ski") sometimes to the point of absurdity. Couple this with our ability to pattern match (something that ensured our ancestor's survival) and you have a recipe for finding "proof" that really is just coincidence (or more complicated than you can process...which quickly goes into chaos vs. complexity theories that are way out of my mental grasp).
curious wrote:
<quoted text>
Insofar as your having no respect for me,If that is what you feel,so be it. If,in order to gain your respect,I have to deny what God has accomplished in my life,I can not and will not do it.
Not only for you,,Not for anybody ,including my parents,my wife ,my kids and everything I hold dear.
Quit playing the victim, that song is getting old. I said I'd have more respect for you if you just admitted that your faith was illogical / irrational. No one is persecuting you.

Since: Aug 10

Location hidden

#99263 Apr 11, 2013
curious wrote:
<quoted text>
The role of science is to understand and explain that which occurs in the Natural World. Faith is not based on that foundation
...
Therefore Faith can not be proven or tested by Scientific Methods.
Then why, for the love of sanity, do you keep trying to treat them as equals? They are not interchangeable, but your arguments are based on them being on equal footing.
curious wrote:
<quoted text>
...
I am going to repeat something I previously posted.
When I was an Agnostic,and had no faith,...
I decided to try and see if this God I did not believe in,could help me.
...
Over the years my faith was tested in many different ways.
Other Requests that I made to God,in prayer,for which I could find no solution,were answered,
...
If they had not been answered,would only have confirmed what I,then believed...There is no God.
Let me ask you a question,I know you are an Atheist and you would never pray to something you don't believe in But,let us suppose,that,like myself,you found yourself in a grievious situation which you could not resolve and in desperation you decided to test God ,not that you believe in...
Everything you just described exemplifies what I'm saying. It is not evidence. It's emotionally charged experiences. The fact that you don't understand everything that happens around you is no reason to inject magic. Good things happen sometimes, bad things happen sometimes, it's life. Sometimes things work out...sometimes they don't. We live in a very complex system. Even if you think you lead a simple life, you're exposed to enormous amount of external factors that can affect you (both positively and negatively) on a daily basis.
I also know that I can talk myself into things. It's relatively easy... especially over an extended period of time.(e.g., "I should buy a jet ski"). If it's something you want, your mind will find ways to reinforce the belief (e.g., "I'll feel younger if I owned a jet ski") sometimes to the point of absurdity. Couple this with our ability to pattern match (something that ensured our ancestor's survival) and you have a recipe for finding "proof" that really is just coincidence (or more complicated than you can process...which quickly goes into chaos vs. complexity theories that are way out of my mental grasp).
curious wrote:
<quoted text>
Insofar as your having no respect for me,If that is what you feel,so be it. If,in order to gain your respect,I have to deny what God has accomplished in my life,I can not and will not do it.
Not only for you,,Not for anybody ,including my parents,my wife ,my kids and everything I hold dear.
Quit playing the victim, that song is getting old. I said I'd have more respect for you if you just admitted that your faith was illogical / irrational. No one is persecuting you.

Since: Aug 10

Location hidden

#99264 Apr 11, 2013
Friggin' time - delayed Topix... sorry everyone

“There is no god”

Since: Jul 12

War, WV

#99265 Apr 11, 2013
curious wrote:
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Question,Where have I ever asked you to believe in what I believe?
Where have I ever stated that I want to impose my beliefs on your children?
When you are able to provide that evidence,then, and only then can you validate your misguided allegations
Are you here to argue that the bible should be taught in schools? You have argued that creation by god should be taught in schools haven't you?
The christian cult does this all of the time. I have told people that want to preach at me that I do not believe in the bible and do not want to be preached at so they nag and preach harder until I wear my sigle of Baphomet than they condemn me because I do not follow their cult
Yes and Amen

Georgetown, KY

#99266 Apr 11, 2013
OhWow wrote:
If you want your child taught your religion send them to a school based on it. Not everyone is Christian and not everyone believes what you believe. There's absolutely no reason to want to force it on those who do not want it.
Fact is... It's an "Elective"! No forcing anyone to go!
On a side note...
God is real, why would you want your kids not to know Him?
You get your kids helmets, and knee pads for their bikes, n skate boards... why not a Bible for their souls?

“See how you are?”

Since: Jul 12

Earth

#99267 Apr 11, 2013
TruthIs wrote:
and we were *quite* a diverse bunch of kids!
Meaning you had both tall and short Baptists and Pentecostals in your classes?

“There is no god”

Since: Jul 12

War, WV

#99268 Apr 11, 2013
Yes and Amen wrote:
<quoted text>Fact is... It's an "Elective"! No forcing anyone to go!
On a side note...
God is real, why would you want your kids not to know Him?
You get your kids helmets, and knee pads for their bikes, n skate boards... why not a Bible for their souls?
No, it is a smoke screen to allow preachers in to go around preaching to children and to pressure children. It is a stepping stone to teach the bible as fact.

“There is no god”

Since: Jul 12

War, WV

#99269 Apr 11, 2013
Yes and Amen wrote:
<quoted text>Fact is... It's an "Elective"! No forcing anyone to go!
On a side note...
God is real, why would you want your kids not to know Him?
You get your kids helmets, and knee pads for their bikes, n skate boards... why not a Bible for their souls?
Elective or not we still can not allow people like you to be around children.
Wrong again Sparky

Stanton, KY

#99270 Apr 11, 2013
Satanic Priest wrote:
<quoted text>No, it is a smoke screen to allow preachers in to go around preaching to children and to pressure children. It is a stepping stone to teach the bible as fact.
In the beginning... He made them male, and female!
Is not a vagina made for a penis?
That is a Biblical fact... even if you do not want to believe that!
Fact is fact!
Thanks again for
proving God, and the Bible to be true!
Good day:-)
TruthIS

London, KY

#99271 Apr 11, 2013
Quantummist wrote:
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Great! But you do know that the Physics class was not the one with the lockers and group showers with your buds after running laps right?
OHMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMM.... I think YOU must be confused?
Group PHYSICS classroooms-yes.
Group showers? NOT in my high school, dirtbag.
Wrong again Sparky

Stanton, KY

#99272 Apr 11, 2013
Y'all have a great day :-)
TruthIS

London, KY

#99273 Apr 11, 2013
ChromiuMan wrote:
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Meaning you had both tall and short Baptists and Pentecostals in your classes?
Hell if I'd know, we didn't drag labelduhmlabels into our classrooms.

Lot's of names you couldn't even pronounce I'd bet though!(HA lol)

“There is no god”

Since: Jul 12

War, WV

#99274 Apr 11, 2013
Wrong again Sparky wrote:
<quoted text>In the beginning... He made them male, and female!
Is not a vagina made for a penis?
That is a Biblical fact... even if you do not want to believe that!
Fact is fact!
Thanks again for
proving God, and the Bible to be true!
Good day:-)
What does that have to do with bible study in school? And no, since there is no god there was no Adam and Eve.
But yes, fact is fact and myth is...well your cult

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