Open and intense debate is the basis of science and yes we have disagreed on the issue of consensus on the whole global warming thing but here is a little dig to show why consensus on issues are the bane of good science.... https://plus.google.com/photos/11043992667178...<quoted text>
No doubt we agree on this. Science is the *best* tool we have to navigate this universe. I'd argue it is the only one that can do the trick. And I'd argue that science is the inevitable toolkit that comes out of the application of reason.
Here's something interesting, Q. You and I have some pretty big disagreements on certain ideas, such as the value of scientific consensus. Right? Now, we can discuss this disagreement rationally and make excellent points about it. We can have a reasoned debate and offer evidence to support our positions.
But if we were Christians of different faiths what would we argue about? The nature of sin? Once saved, always saved? Meaningless mental masturbation. I could just make up my own church, interpret the Bible how I wanted to, and I'd be on pretty much the same intellectual ground as anyone else when it comes down to pure faith.
I mean, what evidence can you possibly provide to support the argument that you are going to live forever when you die?
And must I add... told ya so, told ya so, told ya so.....