Bible study rules for public schools proposed

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FRANKFORT, Ky. - The state would create rules for teaching about the Bible in public high schools under a bill filed Monday by three Democratic senators.

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Big bang therory

Morehead, KY

#98497 Apr 4, 2013
ChromiuMan wrote:
<quoted text>
You're analogy is a typical example of the flawed and tedious ignorance creationists generally have of the theory. Haven't you been resting on that long enough?
How was the universe made ? Waiting for answer. Please let us believers in God and unbelievers in God know. will you explain to us IF you can .
Big bang therory

Morehead, KY

#98498 Apr 4, 2013
Satanic Priest wrote:
<quoted text>The flaw in your story is that there are more than one planet in our solar system think about it.
And the world is not perfect
Like i said 1 of 2 choices:
!. God made everything.
2. N O T H IN G made everything.
True believing in God as "always being " is hard to grasp.
But N O T H I N G making everything is far more of a pie in the sky fairy tale.
But maybe you can enlighten our minds to the truth.
Answer if you can Which one do you believe of the 2? Neither?-Than how did the universe get here. or are you like all the rest of us mortals,you do not know "HOW" . Like I said God making everything seems more likely. But sin nce you seem to be far more knowledgeable on the subject ,please answer this. I wager you wont or can't .WAITING. God or NOTHING??(Your choice ).PS both take great faith.

“There is no god.”

Since: Jan 12

USA

#98499 Apr 4, 2013
excuse me wrote:
<quoted text> Again I state: a mere difference does not a contradiction make! Truth is not negotiable. Historical statements of fact are not open to question. When we read, for example, that George Washington and his men spent the winter of 1777 enduring wretched conditions at Valley Forge, we are obligated to believe it. Although none of us observed their long, deadly winter, what we know about it is supported by the written testimony of those who were there and by the scholarship of later inquirers who studied the Revolutionary War. The written accounts may differ on a few minor details, but we know that we can trust the record of the historians.
In a historical sense, the resurrection stands on ground that is just as solid as the story of George Washington's winter at Valley Forge. Reliable witnesses wrote about meeting and talking with Jesus after His death. Skeptical enemies noticed His disappearance from the tomb. Extrabiblical, historical reports were given of His resurrection. Eyewitnesses of Jesus' post-death appearances died defending their belief in it.
In order for an honest historian to be convinced that something actually happened, he needs to see two specific criteria met:(1) The event in question must be supported by the testimony of believable, trustworthy witnesses. And (2) the circumstantial evidence must be authentic. When both of these demands are clearly supported by the evidence at hand, the inquirer is compelled by logic to believe that the event actually took place. We will see that each of these criteria is met by the things we know about the resurrection.
Even so, some still don't believe. To make that refusal, a person must not only reject the eyewitness accounts and the circumstantial evidence, but he must make an even greater leap. The person who thinks that the resurrection is a fraud or a hoax must reject the entire New Testament. There can be no picking and choosing. If the resurrection is a hoax, then so is the New Testament and everything Jesus said or did. Claiming that Christ was a great teacher or a prophet--as even most unbelievers attest--while rejecting His resurrection is an impossible position. Consider what Jesus said during His ministry--before the crucifixion:
The Son of Man must suffer many things, and be rejected by the elders and chief priests and scribes, and be killed, and be raised the third day (Lk. 9:22).
For as Jonah was three days and three nights in the belly of the great fish, so will the Son of Man be three days and three nights in the heart of the earth (Mt. 12:40).
Remarkably, Matthew, Mark, and Luke each recorded a simultaneous event that occurred some distance from Calvary. They wrote that as Jesus died, "the veil of the temple was torn in two from top to bottom" (Mk. 15:38). This miraculous event signaled the end of the Old Testament era of animal sacrifice and limited access to God. But that's not all it meant. It also verified Jesus' death, because it demonstrated that His complete sacrifice had satisfied God's demands. For centuries, God had required the death of an unblemished lamb as an atonement for sin. Now Jesus, the sinless Lamb of God, had become the new sacrifice. The veil was no longer needed, for access to God had been opened to all who would believe in Christ.
I normally don,t respond to unregistered religie posters, it's to easy when they are caught in lies to say it was someone else, in this case, well,
Lmfao,
add a sentence and it's yours?

"Again I state: a mere difference does not a contradiction make!"

The rest is this guys.

Let's Get Logical
By
William Lyon Phelps, Yale

http://www.believersweb.org/view.cfm...

What a religie will do, tell me, did the old testicle or the new testicle teach you that?

“There is no god.”

Since: Jan 12

USA

#98500 Apr 4, 2013
excuse me wrote:
<quoted text>
God, being the Author of life, has the absolute right to take life away whenever He wants to. Simply put, He gives life, He takes it away. Life is His to do with what He wants. He can give it, as the Author, and as the Author, He can take it away again.
In the same way, life is God's possession so God may do with life as He pleases. Now it may sound like I'm simply reducing God's morality to His power. He can do what He wants because He is God. That's not what I am saying because I don't think taking innocent life is patently, on the face of it, immoral. It is immoral when it is done by certain people, and not immoral when it is done by others--or Another.
I am merely stating that there are certain things which are clearly God's prerogative. Can God create something and then destroy what He's created? Yes, He can do as He wishes, though His wishes are constrained by His character so He can't wish something that is immoral or inconsistent with His character. And there is nothing patently immoral about the Creator of life taking away life. It's immoral for us because when we take life, usually we are exercising a prerogative reserved for God alone.
Lol, here is another of donny fischer's quotes,

"Holy cow Nathan, another 34 words and you would have met the 1500 word requirement for a bonus prize from Toys-R-Us."

What is it with you religies and children? Keep the holyhatebible out of public schools and away from our kids, it's simple.

“There is no god.”

Since: Jan 12

USA

#98501 Apr 4, 2013
excuse me wrote:
<quoted text>
That just goes beyond Scripture and I am not going to speculate!
Why not just say, "Please wait a moment while I steal a quote and act like it's mine." at the very least.
curious

Ocoee, FL

#98502 Apr 4, 2013
Satanic Priest wrote:
<quoted text>I would like you to tell me about your god but you would not be able to support your explanation with factual evidence.
Your explanation would be comprised solely of your opinion,for which you can provide no evidence...
My explanation is not based on my opinion;which you may already have read in another thread on this website; Let me explain ; As stated in the Bible,God has always existed and is a Spiritual(supernatural being).That being the case,then God can not be proven to exist by employing natural means,which is what Science attempts to do.Therefore if God's existence can only be proven by Supernatural means,then the only one who can prove his existence is God Himself.How then,does God prove his existence to man?

The bible gives us clear instructions as to how this happens;
Matthew 6;33 But seek FIRSTt his kingdom and his righteousness, and all these things will be given to you as well.
Luke 11;9 Jesus said,"So I say to you: Ask and it will be given to you; seek and you will find; knock and the door will be opened to you.
John 14:13-14
Whatever you ask in my name, this I will do, that the Father may be glorified in the Son. If you ask me in my name, I will do it.
1 John 5:14
And this is the confidence that we have toward him, that if we ask anything according to his wil he hears us.
1Corinthians 2;
10For to us God revealed them through the Spirit; for the Spirit searches all things, even the depths of God. 11For who among men knows the thoughts of a man except the spirit of the man which is in him? Even so the thoughts of God no one knows except the Spirit of God. 12Now we have received, not the spirit of the world, but the Spirit who is from God, so that we may know the things freely given to us by God, 13which things we also speak, not in words taught by human wisdom, but in those taught by the Spirit, combining spiritual thoughts with spiritual words.

14But a natural man does not accept the things of the Spirit of God, for they are foolishness to him; and he cannot understand them, because they are spiritually appraised.
I have put those teachings to the test and have found them to be true,personal problems"plural" that I have faced for months and years and was unable to solve ,were resolved when I prayed to God for a solution.

Therefore,if I was unable to find an answer to very serious and complicated problems that I've had to confront and these problems were resolved,in ways that I couild never have imagined, when I prayed to Christ and God,then I must conclude that this entity known as GOD responded to my request,,,,,,,,Or,that by some coincidence unbeknownst to me,for which I have no explanation,somehow,some way,this coincidence was able to identify my problems and provide me with solutions
That I ,or anyone other person I knew,could not provide me with a solution,is a FACT
That my problems were resolved only after I prayed to Christ and God is also a fact.
Therefore,the reasons for my faith,

“See how you are?”

Since: Jul 12

Earth

#98503 Apr 4, 2013
Big bang therory wrote:
<quoted text>
Like i said 1 of 2 choices:
!. God made everything.
2. N O T H IN G made everything.
True believing in God as "always being " is hard to grasp.
But N O T H I N G making everything is far more of a pie in the sky fairy tale.
But maybe you can enlighten our minds to the truth.
Answer if you can Which one do you believe of the 2? Neither?-Than how did the universe get here. or are you like all the rest of us mortals,you do not know "HOW" . Like I said God making everything seems more likely. But sin nce you seem to be far more knowledgeable on the subject ,please answer this. I wager you wont or can't .WAITING. God or NOTHING??(Your choice ).PS both take great faith.
I see your dilemma. You are trapped in the conceptual framework that there MUST be a cause and effect. Prior to the existence of time, cause and effect did not apply.(And then there are naked singularities - "things" that would even scare a supermassive black hole... but that's something else.)
Nothing made everything is hard for you to understand, just as there is infinitely less than nothing "outside" of the universe. Can I explain it to you? No, I'm not an astrophysicist and I wouldn't be able to follow the math even if one explained it to me - but I can conceptualize it.
On the other hand, the great spirit used magic is waaay easier. No math at all. That gives you forces, places, intelligence, direction, personage, etc. BEFORE "the beginning" - all the things that are environmentally comfortable and within your ideological / theological grasp without any strain. I suppose if I were you I'd go with option 2. Have a cookie. Brush your teeth before nap nap.
PREVIOUS PATIENT AT KDMC

Ashland, KY

#98504 Apr 4, 2013
that guy wrote:
Jesus' last words on the cross, "My God, my God, why hast thou forsaken me?" hardly seem like the words of a man who planned it that way. It doesn't take Sherlock Holmes to figure there is something wrong here.
WRONG! Jesus' last words were, "IT IS FINISHED"

“See how you are?”

Since: Jul 12

Earth

#98507 Apr 4, 2013
PREVIOUS PATIENT AT KDMC wrote:
<quoted text>
WRONG! Jesus' last words were, "IT IS FINISHED"
Seems that he was mistaken, doesn't it?
curious

Ocoee, FL

#98508 Apr 4, 2013
Satanic Priest wrote:
<quoted text>The flaw in your story is that there are more than one planet in our solar system think about it.
And the world is not perfect
The flaw in your response is that YOU did not respond to what Big Bang theory wrote;merely stating that there is more than one planet and that the world is not perfect,does not answer the question,
How did,absolutely nothing,manage to create the Universe?
Which includes the planets,stars and a superb and intricate machine known as the human species,among other forms of life.
The fact that the human species,with it's intelligence, is not able to create even the simplest forms of life based on their theory of evolution,is somewhat ironic.
In other words, Evolutionists believe that our intelligence was created by some unintelligent process,which they,with their intelligence ,are unable to explain or duplicate....
Which would lead one to conclude,that the unintelligent process that creared them is more intelligent than they are..
That is Scientific fiction,along with a mixture of convoluted logic.....

excuse me

Elkhorn City, KY

#98509 Apr 4, 2013
LOL in a suit wrote:
<quoted text>Why not just say, "Please wait a moment while I steal a quote and act like it's mine." at the very least.
What I am doing is developing a strong relationship with God by doing research, and studying the Bible and using references to cultivate that potential to best of MY ability.

Every post you have addressed to me I have answered with such research because I am not 2000 years old, so therefore I must rely on what I believe to be Truth~
Known Fact

Cocoa Beach, FL

#98510 Apr 4, 2013
do whut wrote:
<quoted text>
Yes and I think it interesting to wonder what their scriptures look like. They probably talk about our awful planet. The one that was evil enough to be the one that killed the Christ.
"As man is God was As God is man can become" Does that sound familar...What scripture says that?
"The King James Version Bible is a good translation as far as it is translated correctly" Is that a familar quote? Who decides what is translated correct and what is not?\

Are you surprised that I know some Mormon quotes?
Jasper

United States

#98511 Apr 4, 2013
PSALMS 72:9

Since: Aug 10

Location hidden

#98512 Apr 4, 2013
You are simply wrong wrote:
Oops....Sorry Brother Old, forgot to change the handle while you were cooking the eggs. The hazard of not having my own computer and you letting me use yours
Maybe when you've finished messing around in the kitchen you can get that mathematical proof you claimed to have. You know, the differential calculus that proves free will exists? I'm still waiting to see that.

Since: Aug 10

Location hidden

#98513 Apr 4, 2013
PREVIOUS PATIENT AT KDMC wrote:
<quoted text>
WRONG! Jesus' last words were, "IT IS FINISHED"
I thought it was "Hey, I can see my house from up here!"

“There is no god”

Since: Jul 12

War, WV

#98514 Apr 4, 2013
curious wrote:
<quoted text>
The flaw in your response is that YOU did not respond to what Big Bang theory wrote;merely stating that there is more than one planet and that the world is not perfect,does not answer the question,
How did,absolutely nothing,manage to create the Universe?
Which includes the planets,stars and a superb and intricate machine known as the human species,among other forms of life.
The fact that the human species,with it's intelligence, is not able to create even the simplest forms of life based on their theory of evolution,is somewhat ironic.
In other words, Evolutionists believe that our intelligence was created by some unintelligent process,which they,with their intelligence ,are unable to explain or duplicate....
Which would lead one to conclude,that the unintelligent process that creared them is more intelligent than they are..
That is Scientific fiction,along with a mixture of convoluted logic.....
It did not need to be created it has always been.(just like you say about your god)
This has been discussed many times in this thread, you keep beating it because that is the only response that you have.
It did not get "created" out of nothing. There has always been energy, there has always been life. PROVE that I am wrong

“There is no god”

Since: Jul 12

War, WV

#98515 Apr 4, 2013
Big bang therory wrote:
<quoted text>
Like i said 1 of 2 choices:
!. God made everything.
2. N O T H IN G made everything.
True believing in God as "always being " is hard to grasp.
But N O T H I N G making everything is far more of a pie in the sky fairy tale.
But maybe you can enlighten our minds to the truth.
Answer if you can Which one do you believe of the 2? Neither?-Than how did the universe get here. or are you like all the rest of us mortals,you do not know "HOW" . Like I said God making everything seems more likely. But sin nce you seem to be far more knowledgeable on the subject ,please answer this. I wager you wont or can't .WAITING. God or NOTHING??(Your choice ).PS both take great faith.
Who said that there are only two choses (of your picking)? Who said that YOU get to decide that we may only choose the two choses that you picked? Who says that there was nothing? There has ALWAYS been energy.
YOU do not get to tell me that I must pick from YOUR choses.
There was energy, there has always been life, you pick from those choses.

“There is no god”

Since: Jul 12

War, WV

#98516 Apr 4, 2013
curious wrote:
<quoted text>
The flaw in your response is that YOU did not respond to what Big Bang theory wrote;merely stating that there is more than one planet and that the world is not perfect,does not answer the question,
How did,absolutely nothing,manage to create the Universe?
Which includes the planets,stars and a superb and intricate machine known as the human species,among other forms of life.
The fact that the human species,with it's intelligence, is not able to create even the simplest forms of life based on their theory of evolution,is somewhat ironic.
In other words, Evolutionists believe that our intelligence was created by some unintelligent process,which they,with their intelligence ,are unable to explain or duplicate....
Which would lead one to conclude,that the unintelligent process that creared them is more intelligent than they are..
That is Scientific fiction,along with a mixture of convoluted logic.....
Yes, I did reply to "how was the earth made perfect for life by chance" because the earth is not the only planet it was not by chance, there are other planets in our solar system that do not have life on them. His question would only make sense if the earth was they only planet. And the earth is not perfect, it is not round, it does not stay in the same orbit but changes by hundreds of thousands of miles (so much for his statement that it is the exact orbit for life) and its orbit is not a circle but an ellipse

“There is no god”

Since: Jul 12

War, WV

#98517 Apr 4, 2013
Skeptical Spectacles wrote:
<quoted text>
I thought it was "Hey, I can see my house from up here!"
What he said was "I do not hear the voices any more, I am not a god after all"

“See how you are?”

Since: Jul 12

Earth

#98518 Apr 4, 2013
Big bang therory wrote:
<quoted text>
How was the universe made ? Waiting for answer. Please let us believers in God and unbelievers in God know. will you explain to us IF you can .
Your question is nonsensical. It's like asking "how many vowels are in a gallon of alarm clocks?" The very couching of your question betrays your bias. The universe was not "made."
You first make the assumption that there was a time before time, that energy was brought in from outside of time-space and organized with forethought, that "someone" had to exist before existence to "make" existence and so on.

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