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Bible study rules for public schools proposed

There are 147276 comments on the The Courier-Journal story from Feb 10, 2010, titled Bible study rules for public schools proposed. In it, The Courier-Journal reports that:

FRANKFORT, Ky. - The state would create rules for teaching about the Bible in public high schools under a bill filed Monday by three Democratic senators.

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“See how you are?”

Since: Jul 12

Earth

#98503 Apr 4, 2013
Big bang therory wrote:
<quoted text>
Like i said 1 of 2 choices:
!. God made everything.
2. N O T H IN G made everything.
True believing in God as "always being " is hard to grasp.
But N O T H I N G making everything is far more of a pie in the sky fairy tale.
But maybe you can enlighten our minds to the truth.
Answer if you can Which one do you believe of the 2? Neither?-Than how did the universe get here. or are you like all the rest of us mortals,you do not know "HOW" . Like I said God making everything seems more likely. But sin nce you seem to be far more knowledgeable on the subject ,please answer this. I wager you wont or can't .WAITING. God or NOTHING??(Your choice ).PS both take great faith.
I see your dilemma. You are trapped in the conceptual framework that there MUST be a cause and effect. Prior to the existence of time, cause and effect did not apply.(And then there are naked singularities - "things" that would even scare a supermassive black hole... but that's something else.)
Nothing made everything is hard for you to understand, just as there is infinitely less than nothing "outside" of the universe. Can I explain it to you? No, I'm not an astrophysicist and I wouldn't be able to follow the math even if one explained it to me - but I can conceptualize it.
On the other hand, the great spirit used magic is waaay easier. No math at all. That gives you forces, places, intelligence, direction, personage, etc. BEFORE "the beginning" - all the things that are environmentally comfortable and within your ideological / theological grasp without any strain. I suppose if I were you I'd go with option 2. Have a cookie. Brush your teeth before nap nap.
PREVIOUS PATIENT AT KDMC

Ashland, KY

#98504 Apr 4, 2013
that guy wrote:
Jesus' last words on the cross, "My God, my God, why hast thou forsaken me?" hardly seem like the words of a man who planned it that way. It doesn't take Sherlock Holmes to figure there is something wrong here.
WRONG! Jesus' last words were, "IT IS FINISHED"

“See how you are?”

Since: Jul 12

Earth

#98507 Apr 4, 2013
PREVIOUS PATIENT AT KDMC wrote:
<quoted text>
WRONG! Jesus' last words were, "IT IS FINISHED"
Seems that he was mistaken, doesn't it?
curious

Ocoee, FL

#98508 Apr 4, 2013
Satanic Priest wrote:
<quoted text>The flaw in your story is that there are more than one planet in our solar system think about it.
And the world is not perfect
The flaw in your response is that YOU did not respond to what Big Bang theory wrote;merely stating that there is more than one planet and that the world is not perfect,does not answer the question,
How did,absolutely nothing,manage to create the Universe?
Which includes the planets,stars and a superb and intricate machine known as the human species,among other forms of life.
The fact that the human species,with it's intelligence, is not able to create even the simplest forms of life based on their theory of evolution,is somewhat ironic.
In other words, Evolutionists believe that our intelligence was created by some unintelligent process,which they,with their intelligence ,are unable to explain or duplicate....
Which would lead one to conclude,that the unintelligent process that creared them is more intelligent than they are..
That is Scientific fiction,along with a mixture of convoluted logic.....

excuse me

Elkhorn City, KY

#98509 Apr 4, 2013
LOL in a suit wrote:
<quoted text>Why not just say, "Please wait a moment while I steal a quote and act like it's mine." at the very least.
What I am doing is developing a strong relationship with God by doing research, and studying the Bible and using references to cultivate that potential to best of MY ability.

Every post you have addressed to me I have answered with such research because I am not 2000 years old, so therefore I must rely on what I believe to be Truth~
Known Fact

Cocoa Beach, FL

#98510 Apr 4, 2013
do whut wrote:
<quoted text>
Yes and I think it interesting to wonder what their scriptures look like. They probably talk about our awful planet. The one that was evil enough to be the one that killed the Christ.
"As man is God was As God is man can become" Does that sound familar...What scripture says that?
"The King James Version Bible is a good translation as far as it is translated correctly" Is that a familar quote? Who decides what is translated correct and what is not?\

Are you surprised that I know some Mormon quotes?
Jasper

United States

#98511 Apr 4, 2013
PSALMS 72:9

Since: Aug 10

Location hidden

#98512 Apr 4, 2013
You are simply wrong wrote:
Oops....Sorry Brother Old, forgot to change the handle while you were cooking the eggs. The hazard of not having my own computer and you letting me use yours
Maybe when you've finished messing around in the kitchen you can get that mathematical proof you claimed to have. You know, the differential calculus that proves free will exists? I'm still waiting to see that.

Since: Aug 10

Location hidden

#98513 Apr 4, 2013
PREVIOUS PATIENT AT KDMC wrote:
<quoted text>
WRONG! Jesus' last words were, "IT IS FINISHED"
I thought it was "Hey, I can see my house from up here!"

Satanic Priest

“There is no god”

Since: Jul 12

War, WV

#98514 Apr 4, 2013
curious wrote:
<quoted text>
The flaw in your response is that YOU did not respond to what Big Bang theory wrote;merely stating that there is more than one planet and that the world is not perfect,does not answer the question,
How did,absolutely nothing,manage to create the Universe?
Which includes the planets,stars and a superb and intricate machine known as the human species,among other forms of life.
The fact that the human species,with it's intelligence, is not able to create even the simplest forms of life based on their theory of evolution,is somewhat ironic.
In other words, Evolutionists believe that our intelligence was created by some unintelligent process,which they,with their intelligence ,are unable to explain or duplicate....
Which would lead one to conclude,that the unintelligent process that creared them is more intelligent than they are..
That is Scientific fiction,along with a mixture of convoluted logic.....
It did not need to be created it has always been.(just like you say about your god)
This has been discussed many times in this thread, you keep beating it because that is the only response that you have.
It did not get "created" out of nothing. There has always been energy, there has always been life. PROVE that I am wrong

Satanic Priest

“There is no god”

Since: Jul 12

War, WV

#98515 Apr 4, 2013
Big bang therory wrote:
<quoted text>
Like i said 1 of 2 choices:
!. God made everything.
2. N O T H IN G made everything.
True believing in God as "always being " is hard to grasp.
But N O T H I N G making everything is far more of a pie in the sky fairy tale.
But maybe you can enlighten our minds to the truth.
Answer if you can Which one do you believe of the 2? Neither?-Than how did the universe get here. or are you like all the rest of us mortals,you do not know "HOW" . Like I said God making everything seems more likely. But sin nce you seem to be far more knowledgeable on the subject ,please answer this. I wager you wont or can't .WAITING. God or NOTHING??(Your choice ).PS both take great faith.
Who said that there are only two choses (of your picking)? Who said that YOU get to decide that we may only choose the two choses that you picked? Who says that there was nothing? There has ALWAYS been energy.
YOU do not get to tell me that I must pick from YOUR choses.
There was energy, there has always been life, you pick from those choses.

Satanic Priest

“There is no god”

Since: Jul 12

War, WV

#98516 Apr 4, 2013
curious wrote:
<quoted text>
The flaw in your response is that YOU did not respond to what Big Bang theory wrote;merely stating that there is more than one planet and that the world is not perfect,does not answer the question,
How did,absolutely nothing,manage to create the Universe?
Which includes the planets,stars and a superb and intricate machine known as the human species,among other forms of life.
The fact that the human species,with it's intelligence, is not able to create even the simplest forms of life based on their theory of evolution,is somewhat ironic.
In other words, Evolutionists believe that our intelligence was created by some unintelligent process,which they,with their intelligence ,are unable to explain or duplicate....
Which would lead one to conclude,that the unintelligent process that creared them is more intelligent than they are..
That is Scientific fiction,along with a mixture of convoluted logic.....
Yes, I did reply to "how was the earth made perfect for life by chance" because the earth is not the only planet it was not by chance, there are other planets in our solar system that do not have life on them. His question would only make sense if the earth was they only planet. And the earth is not perfect, it is not round, it does not stay in the same orbit but changes by hundreds of thousands of miles (so much for his statement that it is the exact orbit for life) and its orbit is not a circle but an ellipse

Satanic Priest

“There is no god”

Since: Jul 12

War, WV

#98517 Apr 4, 2013
Skeptical Spectacles wrote:
<quoted text>
I thought it was "Hey, I can see my house from up here!"
What he said was "I do not hear the voices any more, I am not a god after all"

“See how you are?”

Since: Jul 12

Earth

#98518 Apr 4, 2013
Big bang therory wrote:
<quoted text>
How was the universe made ? Waiting for answer. Please let us believers in God and unbelievers in God know. will you explain to us IF you can .
Your question is nonsensical. It's like asking "how many vowels are in a gallon of alarm clocks?" The very couching of your question betrays your bias. The universe was not "made."
You first make the assumption that there was a time before time, that energy was brought in from outside of time-space and organized with forethought, that "someone" had to exist before existence to "make" existence and so on.

“Speaker of Mountain Wisdom....”

Since: Jan 10

Heidrick, KY

#98519 Apr 4, 2013
Big bang therory wrote:
<quoted text>
Like i said 1 of 2 choices:
!. God made everything.
2. N O T H IN G made everything.
True believing in God as "always being " is hard to grasp.
But N O T H I N G making everything is far more of a pie in the sky fairy tale.
But maybe you can enlighten our minds to the truth.
Answer if you can Which one do you believe of the 2? Neither?-Than how did the universe get here. or are you like all the rest of us mortals,you do not know "HOW" . Like I said God making everything seems more likely. But sin nce you seem to be far more knowledgeable on the subject ,please answer this. I wager you wont or can't .WAITING. God or NOTHING??(Your choice ).PS both take great faith.
You start from a position of ignorance... You have No Idea of the concepts you speak of with absolutely no understanding of the concepts yet base your views on that ignorance... Let's start at a Very Simple mental construct.... E=Mc2 ... Energy equals Matter time the speed of light squared... Or .. Matter divided by the speed of light squared equals energy... You don't have to understand the math just the Concept that has been Experimentally Proven in every nuclear reactor running and atomic bomb ever detonated..

So If I have a 1" X 1" X 1" Cube of Matter and converted it Completely I have Pure Energy without Matter... You would call it "Nothing"... But that Nothing is just as Real as that 1" cube of matter... there is Energy between Everything.. Take Your Body.. Your Body is 99.99% Nothing... Between every sub-atomic particle is Space , that Space is Energy... If we compressed your body enough all the actual Physical Particles that makes you up would be smaller than a Single Hydrogen Atom... Because 99.999% of a Hydrogen Atom is Space/Energy....
Big bang therory

Morehead, KY

#98521 Apr 4, 2013
Satanic Priest wrote:
<quoted text>It did not need to be created it has always been.(just like you say about your god)
This has been discussed many times in this thread, you keep beating it because that is the only response that you have.
It did not get "created" out of nothing. There has always been energy, there has always been life. PROVE that I am wrong
You say the universe was not created out of nothing .But created out of energy -What or who made or used the energy to form the universe? Your fairy tale is so unbelievable.
Example:
Father tells this story to his child . "Son ,God does not exist so therefore he did not make our world or anything else . But billions or more years ago there was energy ,it over all those billions of years made the earth ,sun ,moon stars ,humans all fish, plants, animals and everything ".
Little boy,"Daddy who used that energy to make everything so perfect?.I have energy ,you have energy,but we must use it to make or do things."
father "No ,my little boy ,not that kind of energy,this is an energy ,chemical in nature ".
Little boy "Like electricity or gas ?"
dad " No my child this was an energy that has always been ".
Little boy " Dad ,I think maybe there is a God.
Maybe daddy you do not want to believe in him,but that story on energy just does not make any sense."

And you have the nerve to tell us that believing in God is wrong.
Look ,either the world as you say has always been (made by no one )
or God made it. You beat around the bush, at least I am honest enough to admit that it takes a higher power (I call Him God ). You call it energy - so whose story is more believable. Do you really think that your view should be taught in schools as science ?(that this perfect universe was just a rare accident )? Remember this younger generation ASK QUESTIONS ,you do not have a leg to stand on. Try writing fairy tells ,you are certainly gifted.
Conclusion is ,I believe God made everything ,you believe nothing used energy and made it. Both require great faith. Your main problem is your ego,you can not admit there is one greater than man .

Satanic Priest

“There is no god”

Since: Jul 12

War, WV

#98526 Apr 4, 2013
Big bang therory wrote:
<quoted text>
You say the universe was not created out of nothing .But created out of energy -What or who made or used the energy to form the universe? Your fairy tale is so unbelievable.
Example:
Father tells this story to his child . "Son ,God does not exist so therefore he did not make our world or anything else . But billions or more years ago there was energy ,it over all those billions of years made the earth ,sun ,moon stars ,humans all fish, plants, animals and everything ".
Little boy,"Daddy who used that energy to make everything so perfect?.I have energy ,you have energy,but we must use it to make or do things."
father "No ,my little boy ,not that kind of energy,this is an energy ,chemical in nature ".
Little boy "Like electricity or gas ?"
dad " No my child this was an energy that has always been ".
Little boy " Dad ,I think maybe there is a God.
Maybe daddy you do not want to believe in him,but that story on energy just does not make any sense."
And you have the nerve to tell us that believing in God is wrong.
Look ,either the world as you say has always been (made by no one )
or God made it. You beat around the bush, at least I am honest enough to admit that it takes a higher power (I call Him God ). You call it energy - so whose story is more believable. Do you really think that your view should be taught in schools as science ?(that this perfect universe was just a rare accident )? Remember this younger generation ASK QUESTIONS ,you do not have a leg to stand on. Try writing fairy tells ,you are certainly gifted.
Conclusion is ,I believe God made everything ,you believe nothing used energy and made it. Both require great faith. Your main problem is your ego,you can not admit there is one greater than man .
Nether, the world has not always been and no god made it.
Oh, I am sure that there is greater than man, I can not help but believe that if there is life on earth there may be life elsewhere in the vastness, billions of planets of space.
But to be plain, YOUR version of god, that which elevates you above others is not real.
If there was some divinity it would be the opposite of the evil of the god that you worship.
You do NOT get to make parameters that I must choose from or believe.
You can not accept that you are no better than any one, the homeless, a hooker, a killer, are the same as you are.

Satanic Priest

“There is no god”

Since: Jul 12

War, WV

#98527 Apr 4, 2013
Big bang therory wrote:
<quoted text>
You say the universe was not created out of nothing .But created out of energy -What or who made or used the energy to form the universe? Your fairy tale is so unbelievable.
Example:
Father tells this story to his child . "Son ,God does not exist so therefore he did not make our world or anything else . But billions or more years ago there was energy ,it over all those billions of years made the earth ,sun ,moon stars ,humans all fish, plants, animals and everything ".
Little boy,"Daddy who used that energy to make everything so perfect?.I have energy ,you have energy,but we must use it to make or do things."
father "No ,my little boy ,not that kind of energy,this is an energy ,chemical in nature ".
Little boy "Like electricity or gas ?"
dad " No my child this was an energy that has always been ".
Little boy " Dad ,I think maybe there is a God.
Maybe daddy you do not want to believe in him,but that story on energy just does not make any sense."
And you have the nerve to tell us that believing in God is wrong.
Look ,either the world as you say has always been (made by no one )
or God made it. You beat around the bush, at least I am honest enough to admit that it takes a higher power (I call Him God ). You call it energy - so whose story is more believable. Do you really think that your view should be taught in schools as science ?(that this perfect universe was just a rare accident )? Remember this younger generation ASK QUESTIONS ,you do not have a leg to stand on. Try writing fairy tells ,you are certainly gifted.
Conclusion is ,I believe God made everything ,you believe nothing used energy and made it. Both require great faith. Your main problem is your ego,you can not admit there is one greater than man .
See post 95819 and 95818
PREVIOUS PATIENT AT KDMC

Ashland, KY

#98528 Apr 4, 2013
Skeptical Spectacles wrote:
<quoted text>
I thought it was "Hey, I can see my house from up here!"
Very cruel statement, but, Jesus STILL LOVES U!

Satanic Priest

“There is no god”

Since: Jul 12

War, WV

#98530 Apr 4, 2013
#98519 and #98518, Dyslexic moment

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