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Bible study rules for public schools proposed

There are 153901 comments on the The Courier-Journal story from Feb 10, 2010, titled Bible study rules for public schools proposed. In it, The Courier-Journal reports that:

FRANKFORT, Ky. - The state would create rules for teaching about the Bible in public high schools under a bill filed Monday by three Democratic senators.

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that guy

Harrison, AR

#98469 Apr 4, 2013
Jesus' last words on the cross, "My God, my God, why hast thou forsaken me?" hardly seem like the words of a man who planned it that way. It doesn't take Sherlock Holmes to figure there is something wrong here.
that guy

Harrison, AR

#98470 Apr 4, 2013
Prayer has no place in the public schools, just like facts have no place in organized religion
curious

Winter Garden, FL

#98472 Apr 4, 2013
Satanic Priest wrote:
<quoted text>Life is chemical reaction and electron flow. Nothing more than that
That may be the case,but your simplistic response,does not answer the very complex question as to how nonliving,non intelligent matter,was able to transform itself,of it's own accord, into living ,intelligent matter,thus creating the human and other species.
Evolutionists are unable to explain it,neither can they duplicate the process that took place for this transformation to occur.
Can you explain that process?

“See how you are?”

Since: Jul 12

Earth

#98473 Apr 4, 2013
Re: Post # 98461
excuse me wrote:
<quoted text>
"I Don't Have Enough Faith to be an Atheist"
Norman L. Geisler and Frank Turek
Page 244
I took the liberty of replacing your cut and paste. It would be nice if you could have credited the REAL authors. OF COURSE you cannot see how you have ironically perpetuated the case against your case.

While one might reasonably hold Saul as the author of his books and letters, that does not lend itself as evidence or conclusion that the books named after the other apostles were either written or transcribed by them, or of the veracity and/or embellishment of (or lack of, if you prefer) their contents.
30 years and 300 years represent no insignificant gap, and you have yet to reconcile or defuse the likelihood that the Councils of Constantinople collaborated, cherry-picked and edited materials for canonization. Do you somehow contend that 2,000 years ago the middle east had a higher literacy rate and more accurate recording than modern day? It is true that the ROMANS kept meticulous records - and it is also true that their records do not corroborate the apologetics' claims.
Geisler, Turek and Craig should mind the 9th commandment, as should you.

“See how you are?”

Since: Jul 12

Earth

#98474 Apr 4, 2013
curious wrote:
<quoted text>
That may be the case,but your simplistic response,does not answer the very complex question as to how nonliving,non intelligent matter,was able to transform itself,of it's own accord, into living ,intelligent matter,thus creating the human and other species.
Evolutionists are unable to explain it,neither can they duplicate the process that took place for this transformation to occur.
Can you explain that process?
Not in any way you are willing to understand.
curious

Winter Garden, FL

#98475 Apr 4, 2013
that guy wrote:
Jesus' last words on the cross, "My God, my God, why hast thou forsaken me?" hardly seem like the words of a man who planned it that way. It doesn't take Sherlock Holmes to figure there is something wrong here.
I did some research and found this answer to your statement;
In Matthew 27:45-46, it says, "Now from the sixth hour darkness fell upon all the land until the ninth hour. 46And about the ninth hour Jesus cried out with a loud voice, saying, "Eli, Eli, lama sabachthani?" that is, "My God, My God, why hast Thou forsaken Me?" If Jesus is God, why would He say this?

First of all, Jesus quoted Psalm 22:1 which begins with, "My God, My God, why hast Thou forsaken Me?". Jesus quoted this Psalm in order to draw attention to it and the fact that He was fulfilling it there on the cross. Consider verses 11-18 in Psalm 22:

Be not far from me, for trouble is near; For there is none to help.12 Many bulls have surrounded me; Strong bulls of Bashan have encircled me. 13 They open wide their mouth at me, As a ravening and a roaring lion. 14 I am poured out like water, And all my bones are out of joint; My heart is like wax; It is melted within me. 15 My strength is dried up like a potsherd, And my tongue cleaves to my jaws; And Thou dost lay me in the dust of death. 16 For dogs have surrounded me; A band of evildoers has encompassed me; They pierced my hands and my feet. 17 I can count all my bones. They look, they stare at me; 18 They divide my garments among them, And for my clothing they cast lots.

The term 'dogs' was used by the Jews to refer to Gentiles (cf. Matt. 15:21-28). His heart has melted within Him (v. 14). During the crucifixion process, the blood loss causes the heart to beat harder and harder and become extremely fatigued. Dehydration occurs (v. 15). Verses 16b-18 speak of piercing His hands and feet and dividing his clothing by casting lots. This is exactly what happen as described in Matt. 27:35.

Psalm 22 was written about 1000 years before Christ was born. At that time, crucifixion had not yet been invented. Actually, the Phoenicians developed it and Rome borrowed the agonizing means of execution from them. So, when Rome ruled over Israel, it became the Roman means of capital punishment imposed upon the Jews whose biblical means of execution was stoning. Nevertheless, Jesus is pointing to the scriptures to substantiate His messianic mission.

Since: Aug 10

Location hidden

#98476 Apr 4, 2013
You are simply wrong wrote:
<quoted text>You are simply wrong. That is merely an ad hominem. Go back and read about symbolic logic.
You were the one who said it could be proven with differential calculus. Or are you denying that now?

“See how you are?”

Since: Jul 12

Earth

#98477 Apr 4, 2013
curious wrote:
<quoted text>
It would appear that,you either misunderstood what I posted,or did not take the time to read it.
Evolutionists DO NOT attribute the creation of the human or any other species,to GOD.They claim that unliving matter,which has no intelligence,was able to evolve,over a period of Billions of years into a living human being and other forms of life ,capable of reproducing itself after it's own kind.But,they are unable to explain how it is possible that unliving matter is able to accomplish this feat.They can neither explain it or duplicate it,as neither can those on this thread,who deny the existence of GOD.
Unliving matter can not bring itself to life of it's own volition,but,it can be brought to life by a supernatural
( SPIRITUAL BEING) being.
That is precisely what the BIBLE states in Genesis.
I am copying what I wrote previously,in the following post
Genesis 1:1 "In the beginning, God created the laws of physics."
Revelation 1:1 "Amen"

TA - DA! God exists, Evolution is real, and you can print a hundred Bibles on one page. Win-win.

Since: Aug 10

Location hidden

#98478 Apr 4, 2013
You are simply wrong wrote:
<quoted text>That is called a strawman argument and is a fallacy because you are attributing to me what someone else said.
My apologies, I confused your post with something "I am Blessed" posted.
curious

Winter Garden, FL

#98479 Apr 4, 2013
ChromiuMan wrote:
<quoted text>
Not in any way you are willing to understand.
Pardon me for being sarcastic,but,your response,or lack of,still does not explain how this event took place...
Fact is that SCIENCE HAS BEEN UNABLE TO RECREATE this process and have admitted their inability to do so.
I am assuming that the reason you can not explain it in any way that I am willing to understand,is due to the fact that you would not be able to support your explanation with factual evidence.
Your explanation would be comprised solely of your opinion,for which you can provide no evidence...
If you can,then,do so

Since: Aug 10

Location hidden

#98480 Apr 4, 2013
curious wrote:
<quoted text>
Pardon me for being sarcastic,but,your response,or lack of,still does not explain how this event took place...
Fact is that SCIENCE HAS BEEN UNABLE TO RECREATE this process and have admitted their inability to do so.
I am assuming that the reason you can not explain it in any way that I am willing to understand,is due to the fact that you would not be able to support your explanation with factual evidence.
Your explanation would be comprised solely of your opinion,for which you can provide no evidence...
If you can,then,do so
This is hilarious. You reject all of the evidence because it's not complete and replace it with something that has no evidence.
How is that a logical decision?
Old

Racine, OH

#98481 Apr 4, 2013
TruthIs wrote:
<quoted text>
That's what I said,(@your level now)imbecile.
Sorry YOU could NOT comprehend it.
Try a reading comprehension class for lilcommieTics. Maybe you'll feewl bettuh, dolt.
Now you show yourself to be either a retard or a liar or both since I quote you,
“Just because I translate it in a different way (FAR from "literal") does NOT mean I have not read it.”
You said that you translate it and then later you admit that you do not possess the skill to translate it.

You are a proven liar and your insults are meaningless
Old

Racine, OH

#98482 Apr 4, 2013
curious wrote:
<quoted text>
It would appear that,you either misunderstood what I posted,or did not take the time to read it.
Evolutionists DO NOT attribute the creation of the human or any other species,to GOD.They claim that unliving matter,which has no intelligence,was able to evolve,over a period of Billions of years into a living human being and other forms of life ,capable of reproducing itself after it's own kind.But,they are unable to explain how it is possible that unliving matter is able to accomplish this feat.They can neither explain it or duplicate it,as neither can those on this thread,who deny the existence of GOD.
Unliving matter can not bring itself to life of it's own volition,but,it can be brought to life by a supernatural
( SPIRITUAL BEING) being.
That is precisely what the BIBLE states in Genesis.
I am copying what I wrote previously,in the following post
You have fallen into the trap of the part not representing the whole."

Some people who believe in evolution is not the same as all people who do
Old

Racine, OH

#98483 Apr 4, 2013
TruthIs wrote:
<quoted text>
To "Sorry "BUT" YOU are wrong"
Heyuh-now try reading it again!
I disagree with YOUR interpretation.
My translation of Bible for modern day world living (versus the wickedness of ways as found within the OT) says we are to LOVE and respect, and be kind one to another. NOT hate, maim, torture, taunt, bully, push, shove, connive, manipulate and whatever other negative dredges of negative negatives.
I feel sorry for you, if you think life should be lived so negatively, because it shouldn't.
Notice the emphasis on MY this time-for that speshull impactive effect.
MY translation of--as in MY interprative opinion.
NOT Yours-or anyone elses.
MY opinion.
Is THAT simple enough for YOU'RE WRONGness?
Hope so, can't make it much simpler than that.
Have a nice day.
Now you are just being a crybaby. Instead of just saying,“Whatever, I wrote translate but meant interpret,” you dig in your heels and insist that someone else’s work,(the translation that you like) is your work. That’s plagiarism
Old

Racine, OH

#98484 Apr 4, 2013
curious wrote:
Evolution is nothing more that Extreme Science Fiction
Those who do not believe in God and believe in the scientific theory of evolution would believe that,
Unliving and unintelligent matter can ,over a period of billions of years,evolve into a living intelligent being,able to reproduce after it's own kind.
Let us analyze that procedure and apply it to the human species;
According to evolution,certain elements came together,devoid of intelligence or life and were somehow,able to assemble themselves ,over a period of billions of years,into a living being,previously non existent.
Without any guidance or blueprint to follow,this process called evolution,was able to create an amazingly sophisticated and complex machine,hereto fore unknown.
Question,How did that happen?How did this process know what was needed in order to create a living human,that this human would need a heart,a brain,a liver etc. and create within itself HALF of the necessary elements needed in order to continue the survival of the human species.We call this,MAN.
Now,apart and Independent of this MAN,we would have to have,these same identical elements,over a period of billions of years,create an almost identical being called woman,which would have most of the same characteristics of man,a heart,a brain,liver etc,and create within itself the other HALF of necessary elements needed to create additional human beings of both sexes,But,how did this unintelligent process know to create separate beings of different sexes and provide them with the necessary parts so there would be a continuation of the species.
Science CAN NOT explain that process,has no idea how it occurred,but yet,insists that their theory is accurate. That is not Science,that is Science Fiction of the highest degree.
Thereby my belief that a far superior intelligence than we possess, created us,that superior intelligence is what I refer to as GOD.
Meanwhile,those who do not believe in this superior intelligence,attempt to disprove God's Existence,
the foundation of their argument,that unintelligent and unliving matter,was somehow,able to transform itself into living intelligent matter,in the form of a human being,a process they can neither explain,provide any evidence that this event happened,nor have any idea as to how it occurred,
Therefore,they are willimg to believe that we were not created by a Supernatural being with a far superior intellect than humans possess,but were instead created by an unintelligent,unliving source that evolved over billions of years..
Go to school instead of your preacher to learn about science. That is so ridiculously wrong it's not worth the time
Old

Racine, OH

#98485 Apr 4, 2013
that guy wrote:
Jesus' last words on the cross, "My God, my God, why hast thou forsaken me?" hardly seem like the words of a man who planned it that way. It doesn't take Sherlock Holmes to figure there is something wrong here.
Or just somebody finally succumbing to the torture and pain, that's human
Old

Racine, OH

#98486 Apr 4, 2013
Dude! Fix that!
Big bang therory

Flemingsburg, KY

#98487 Apr 4, 2013
Satanic Priest wrote:
Is that enough contridictions in the bible or shall I keep copying and pasting?
Add this :
Bible VersionsJohnJohn 10John 10:10Compare Translations
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John 10:10 NIV
New International Version
The thief comes only to steal and kill and destroy; I have come that they may have life, and have it to the full.
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John 10:10 ASV
American Standard Version
The thief cometh not, but that he may steal, and kill, and destroy: I came that they may have life, and may have [it] abundantly.
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John 10:10 BBE
Bible in Basic English
The thief comes only to take the sheep and to put them to death: he comes for their destruction: I have come so that they may have life and have it in greater measure.
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John 10:10 CEB
Common English Bible
The thief enters only to steal, kill, and destroy. I came so that they could have life—indeed, so that they could live life to the fullest.
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John 10:10 CJB
Complete Jewish Bible
The thief comes only in order to steal, kill and destroy; I have come so that they may have life, life in its fullest measure.
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John 10:10 RHE
Douay-Rheims
The thief cometh not, but for to steal and to kill and to destroy. I am come that they may have life and may have it more abundantly.
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John 10:10 ESV
English Standard Version
The thief comes only to steal and kill and destroy. I came that they may have life and have it abundantly.
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John 10:10 GW
GOD'S WORD Translation
A thief comes to steal, kill, and destroy. But I came so that my sheep will have life and so that they will have everything they need.
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John 10:10 GNT
Good News Translation
The thief comes only in order to steal, kill, and destroy. I have come in order that you might have life - life in all its fullness.
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John 10:10 HNV
Hebrew Names Version
The thief only comes to steal, kill, and destroy. I came that they may have life, and may have it abundantly.
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John 10:10 CSB
Holman Christian Standard
A thief comes only to steal and to kill and to destroy. I have come that they may have life and have it in abundance.
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John 10:10 KJV
King James Version
The thief cometh not, but for to steal , and to kill , and to destroy : I am come that they might have life, and that they might have it more abundantly.
You are simply wrong

Racine, OH

#98488 Apr 4, 2013
Oops....Sorry Brother Old, forgot to change the handle while you were cooking the eggs. The hazard of not having my own computer and you letting me use yours
Old

Racine, OH

#98489 Apr 4, 2013
Leave me out of this and eat your friggin eggs

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