Bible study rules for public schools proposed

Feb 10, 2010 Full story: The Courier-Journal 131,006

FRANKFORT, Ky. - The state would create rules for teaching about the Bible in public high schools under a bill filed Monday by three Democratic senators.

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#98011 Apr 1, 2013
Satanic Priest wrote:
Hearing about how mormons believe that they are the master race because they are direct descendent's of the jewish people and how a girl should get married as soon as she has a menstrual cycle from a mormon and then having some one here say "oh we dont do that" I have to decide whom to believe.
Since the mormons I know both have 14 year old daughters that had a wedding in the LDS church here and their husbands live with them and her family..........
What is the actual name of their church? What are the surrounding circumstances? Did they get pregnant and decide to marry instead of give up the child? Provide more details please. This is nowhere near common in the LDS church
happy

United States

#98012 Apr 1, 2013
Satanic Priest wrote:
<quoted text>Then all of the christians should want to die. Dont go to a Doctor just be happy as you die.
Most Christians probably have common sense, that's what Dr's are for.. Healing

“There is no god”

Since: Jul 12

War, WV

#98014 Apr 1, 2013
happy wrote:
<quoted text>
Most Christians probably have common sense, that's what Dr's are for.. Healing
So it is common sense to cling to life in this world than to naturaly die and be with your god?
GWB

Roseville, CA

#98018 Apr 1, 2013
do whut wrote:
<quoted text>
Being as innocent as little children, I'm not sure they would have known how to multiply. If they hadn't eaten of the tree, man may have never been. It would have been those two in Eden for eternity.
I do not think we are meant to go around naked. Not sure where you are going with that
What would be the point of having Adam and Eve with sexual organs on planet earth for all eternity? Being naked was God's idea, having sex was also God's idea. Why would God place souls in a mothers womb otherwise, just because Satan misled them?

If you were pure in heart in the Garden of Eden God would want you innocent and naked. He even says so, ""Truly I tell you, unless you change and become like little children, you will never enter the kingdom of heaven. Matt 18:3

Then again if you were embarrassed by that you would show shame and not be as a innocent little child. I think that would be a programed function to indicate your conscious has born witness against you.

I think that Satan's plan was to change God's plan which he did, not only that, had a third of the stars"angels in heaven to help desecrate God's plan by producing hybrids called the NEPHILIM . Now Satan is the God of this world by God's own admission. I think we now all have the DNA of Satan and the fallen angels.
NO no brain washing

Wooton, KY

#98020 Apr 1, 2013
You ppl are so brain washed with religious bull crap .PPL should be allowed to make their own minds up about religion .Not be force brain washed at school .For you fools that think it will help stop the shootings .Look at how well religion has worked in keeping world peace.I do not want my child infected with primitive beliefs of an invisible man .We came from apes get over it

Since: Aug 10

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#98021 Apr 1, 2013
Satanic Priest wrote:
<quoted text>Punishment? What punishment? They "accept jesus as their lord" and there is no more sin, just like eating pork and shell fish. Rape a child and god forgives you, they are not under the old law they are under grace.
And if your god CAN stop some one from beating a helpless child but does not he is evil.
When a group of christian boys beat a homeless man and set him on fire god did not stop it so again, evil.
You can spout love and god is good all you want but the ACTIONS say hate and evil
Read Matthew 18

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#98022 Apr 1, 2013
Really wrote:
I can't believe in todays day and age, that people still think there is some ultimate being controlling us.
Come on and start thinking America.
To believe in a "god" is the same as saying, you are just a sheep that cant do anything for yourself.
I own a buissness and the first rule is, no bible talk, I'm open xmas easter, and if you tell me you cant work then you don't have a job.
I don't care what "god" you pray to, just not on my time.
Haha. So you discriminate based on religion. You know that's illegal?

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#98023 Apr 1, 2013
-NEPHILIM- wrote:
<quoted text>I'm sure they weren't smooth like Ken dolls down there. I just thought it was interesting that the very first thing Adam and Eve did was put clothes on. For eating a fruit with magic powers for intelligence the first smart thing they did was cover up.

If the "sons of God" were angels and were able to take human women as their wives then that starts the bible out like a cheap porn movie. Do a little research on Genesis 6, it's interesting what you might come up with.
I will when I have a minute, promise.

Since: Aug 10

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#98024 Apr 1, 2013
-NEPHILIM- wrote:
<quoted text>If God has all this power then why the flood? He could of just killed all the evil people with a snap of his finger but instead he kills the animals as well. Drowning and knowing that you are going to drown has to be horrible, especially for the children and even the animals. God took his sweet time to kill everything slow and for what reason?

Why didn't God start over then and just go ahead and get rid of Satan? The KJV says "Noah was a just man and perfect in his generations, and Noah walked with God." Why didn't God just get rid of evil then instead of building the population up so he could put most of them in hell?

Anyway, the point to my rambling is if God is so powerful then why the over kill with everything he does. Seems cruel to me. Sounds like when Satan told Adam and Eve they didn't need God then that was good advice. Satan does sound like the better person. Hes only killed like ten kids when he had a bet with God, God has killed untold billions.
God thinks on a more eternal scale. I'm not convinced all those you speak of that were killed will spend eternity in hell. As I said, I believe they have the opportunity to hear the full gospel and choose to accept it or not.

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#98025 Apr 1, 2013
GWB wrote:
<quoted text>What would be the point of having Adam and Eve with sexual organs on planet earth for all eternity? Being naked was God's idea, having sex was also God's idea. Why would God place souls in a mothers womb otherwise, just because Satan misled them?

If you were pure in heart in the Garden of Eden God would want you innocent and naked. He even says so, ""Truly I tell you, unless you change and become like little children, you will never enter the kingdom of heaven. Matt 18:3

Then again if you were embarrassed by that you would show shame and not be as a innocent little child. I think that would be a programed function to indicate your conscious has born witness against you.

I think that Satan's plan was to change God's plan which he did, not only that, had a third of the stars"angels in heaven to help desecrate God's plan by producing hybrids called the NEPHILIM . Now Satan is the God of this world by God's own admission. I think we now all have the DNA of Satan and the fallen angels.
I think it was God's plan for Adam and Eve to be misled by Satan. Since the plan was for us all to come here, they would have to be able to reproduce, and they could not be immortal. So Lucifer played out God's plan and didn't even realize it.

Satan is the god of this world only because God no longer walks the earth with man. Since He can't be around sin, Satan abounds. But He doesn't have full control.
GWB

Roseville, CA

#98027 Apr 1, 2013
do whut wrote:
<quoted text>
I think it was God's plan for Adam and Eve to be misled by Satan. Since the plan was for us all to come here, they would have to be able to reproduce, and they could not be immortal. So Lucifer played out God's plan and didn't even realize it.
Satan is the god of this world only because God no longer walks the earth with man. Since He can't be around sin, Satan abounds. But He doesn't have full control.
That from the BOM or how all LDS believe or scriptures that led you to think that way?

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#98028 Apr 1, 2013
do whut wrote:
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I think it was God's plan for Adam and Eve to be misled by Satan. Since the plan was for us all to come here, they would have to be able to reproduce, and they could not be immortal. So Lucifer played out God's plan and didn't even realize it.
Satan is the god of this world only because God no longer walks the earth with man. Since He can't be around sin, Satan abounds. But He doesn't have full control.
I haven't been following this thread closely the last few days, but I'm having trouble getting the logic here (maybe it's just because I'm coming in late...)

If it was your god's intent for Adam and Eve to do exactly as they did in the Garden of Eden...then what were they guilty of?
It's the problem of evil.
Is your god omnipotent (and omniscient)? If so, he not only knew what would happen, be created everything in order for it to happen. So, he must not be benevolent.
pat

Mount Ida, AR

#98029 Apr 1, 2013
Don't pray in my school, and I won't think in your church
pat

Mount Ida, AR

#98030 Apr 1, 2013
With or without religion, you would have good people doing good things and evil people doing evil things. But for good people to do evil things, that takes religion.
pat

Mount Ida, AR

#98031 Apr 1, 2013
Religion does three things quite effectively: Divides people, Controls people, Deludes people.
pat

Mount Ida, AR

#98032 Apr 1, 2013
The sailor does not pray for wind, he learns to sail
GWB

Roseville, CA

#98033 Apr 1, 2013
Satanic Priest wrote:
<quoted text>So you are saying that the christian cult's god wanted them ignorant servants and Satan talked them in to having free will by eating of the fruit of knowledge?
We should all thank Satan for that gift and see the christian cult's god as the evil people who worship hate, violence and blood
That's the rub, some of them were not ingnorant, servants or slaves, yes indeed. Satan wanted to be king and dethrone the reigning God. One third of the angels in heaven wanted to have sex with humans on earth and they did. So God conceded and Satan became the God of this world. Yes, we have satanic dna by the fallen angels that produced hybrids , if you believe that the bible is real and not a myth.

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#98034 Apr 1, 2013
TruthIs wrote:
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That's why I like books, and a good geology one could certainly be considered a "sacred text", for referencing the subject matter of your post (namely tsunamis), but of course LOGIC and rationality, knows BETTER, and would apply the appropritate catagory of what it IS (earth sciences) NOT what one would merely choose it to be.
I...you....what??

You do understand I was making a point about suffering, right? Not geology. Why not address the actual content of my post rather than sidestepping it and tossing big fat Red Herring into the room.

“See how you are?”

Since: Jul 12

Earth

#98035 Apr 1, 2013
do whut wrote:
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Most of the time it just says angels. No mention of gender.
I doubt we will be naked in heaven. All mention of angels or Christ always indicates robes.
Adam and Eve were naked for the same reason babies are born naked.
Pffft. All of the angels mentioned by name were dudes and the concept of heavenly messengers almost certainly predates the writing of the Torah. Adam and Eve weren't born. They were naked because God wanted them naked. In the earliest biblical mention of an angel, Satan was naked too, unless you think serpents wear robes.
Hey, when you're done with discussing the Bible can ya discuss Dune or the Silmarillion? If a "stone burner" was a nuke based on the China syndrome, wouldn't using one violate the terms of use of family atomics? Was Tom Bombadil a valar or a maiar? That would make him older than ents, wouldn't it?

“See how you are?”

Since: Jul 12

Earth

#98036 Apr 1, 2013
do whut wrote:
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We differ here. I believe that a God powerful enough to create the universe and all that is in it, could easily produce rain, make Balaam's donkey speak, part the Red Sea, keep a bush from being consumed by fire, etc.
We differ more than here. A God that is able to create all of time and space could create rain and erase every single trace that it ever happened. He could be the universe's best ventriloquist. He could have simply had the Jews run across the tops of the waves instead of trudge through the silt of a sea bed - or simply have teleported them to the other side. We can apply fire retardant to a tree or create the illusion of speech and fire from one.
My question is not whether or not something might or could have happened. It is WTF is WRonG with people who defend those fabrications without any shred of critical thought, conscience or honesty.

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