Bible study rules for public schools proposed

Feb 10, 2010 Full story: The Courier-Journal 132,251

FRANKFORT, Ky. - The state would create rules for teaching about the Bible in public high schools under a bill filed Monday by three Democratic senators.

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#98023 Apr 1, 2013
-NEPHILIM- wrote:
<quoted text>I'm sure they weren't smooth like Ken dolls down there. I just thought it was interesting that the very first thing Adam and Eve did was put clothes on. For eating a fruit with magic powers for intelligence the first smart thing they did was cover up.

If the "sons of God" were angels and were able to take human women as their wives then that starts the bible out like a cheap porn movie. Do a little research on Genesis 6, it's interesting what you might come up with.
I will when I have a minute, promise.

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#98024 Apr 1, 2013
-NEPHILIM- wrote:
<quoted text>If God has all this power then why the flood? He could of just killed all the evil people with a snap of his finger but instead he kills the animals as well. Drowning and knowing that you are going to drown has to be horrible, especially for the children and even the animals. God took his sweet time to kill everything slow and for what reason?

Why didn't God start over then and just go ahead and get rid of Satan? The KJV says "Noah was a just man and perfect in his generations, and Noah walked with God." Why didn't God just get rid of evil then instead of building the population up so he could put most of them in hell?

Anyway, the point to my rambling is if God is so powerful then why the over kill with everything he does. Seems cruel to me. Sounds like when Satan told Adam and Eve they didn't need God then that was good advice. Satan does sound like the better person. Hes only killed like ten kids when he had a bet with God, God has killed untold billions.
God thinks on a more eternal scale. I'm not convinced all those you speak of that were killed will spend eternity in hell. As I said, I believe they have the opportunity to hear the full gospel and choose to accept it or not.

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#98025 Apr 1, 2013
GWB wrote:
<quoted text>What would be the point of having Adam and Eve with sexual organs on planet earth for all eternity? Being naked was God's idea, having sex was also God's idea. Why would God place souls in a mothers womb otherwise, just because Satan misled them?

If you were pure in heart in the Garden of Eden God would want you innocent and naked. He even says so, ""Truly I tell you, unless you change and become like little children, you will never enter the kingdom of heaven. Matt 18:3

Then again if you were embarrassed by that you would show shame and not be as a innocent little child. I think that would be a programed function to indicate your conscious has born witness against you.

I think that Satan's plan was to change God's plan which he did, not only that, had a third of the stars"angels in heaven to help desecrate God's plan by producing hybrids called the NEPHILIM . Now Satan is the God of this world by God's own admission. I think we now all have the DNA of Satan and the fallen angels.
I think it was God's plan for Adam and Eve to be misled by Satan. Since the plan was for us all to come here, they would have to be able to reproduce, and they could not be immortal. So Lucifer played out God's plan and didn't even realize it.

Satan is the god of this world only because God no longer walks the earth with man. Since He can't be around sin, Satan abounds. But He doesn't have full control.
GWB

Roseville, CA

#98027 Apr 1, 2013
do whut wrote:
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I think it was God's plan for Adam and Eve to be misled by Satan. Since the plan was for us all to come here, they would have to be able to reproduce, and they could not be immortal. So Lucifer played out God's plan and didn't even realize it.
Satan is the god of this world only because God no longer walks the earth with man. Since He can't be around sin, Satan abounds. But He doesn't have full control.
That from the BOM or how all LDS believe or scriptures that led you to think that way?

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#98028 Apr 1, 2013
do whut wrote:
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I think it was God's plan for Adam and Eve to be misled by Satan. Since the plan was for us all to come here, they would have to be able to reproduce, and they could not be immortal. So Lucifer played out God's plan and didn't even realize it.
Satan is the god of this world only because God no longer walks the earth with man. Since He can't be around sin, Satan abounds. But He doesn't have full control.
I haven't been following this thread closely the last few days, but I'm having trouble getting the logic here (maybe it's just because I'm coming in late...)

If it was your god's intent for Adam and Eve to do exactly as they did in the Garden of Eden...then what were they guilty of?
It's the problem of evil.
Is your god omnipotent (and omniscient)? If so, he not only knew what would happen, be created everything in order for it to happen. So, he must not be benevolent.
pat

Mount Ida, AR

#98029 Apr 1, 2013
Don't pray in my school, and I won't think in your church
pat

Mount Ida, AR

#98030 Apr 1, 2013
With or without religion, you would have good people doing good things and evil people doing evil things. But for good people to do evil things, that takes religion.
pat

Mount Ida, AR

#98031 Apr 1, 2013
Religion does three things quite effectively: Divides people, Controls people, Deludes people.
pat

Mount Ida, AR

#98032 Apr 1, 2013
The sailor does not pray for wind, he learns to sail
GWB

Roseville, CA

#98033 Apr 1, 2013
Satanic Priest wrote:
<quoted text>So you are saying that the christian cult's god wanted them ignorant servants and Satan talked them in to having free will by eating of the fruit of knowledge?
We should all thank Satan for that gift and see the christian cult's god as the evil people who worship hate, violence and blood
That's the rub, some of them were not ingnorant, servants or slaves, yes indeed. Satan wanted to be king and dethrone the reigning God. One third of the angels in heaven wanted to have sex with humans on earth and they did. So God conceded and Satan became the God of this world. Yes, we have satanic dna by the fallen angels that produced hybrids , if you believe that the bible is real and not a myth.

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#98034 Apr 1, 2013
TruthIs wrote:
<quoted text>
That's why I like books, and a good geology one could certainly be considered a "sacred text", for referencing the subject matter of your post (namely tsunamis), but of course LOGIC and rationality, knows BETTER, and would apply the appropritate catagory of what it IS (earth sciences) NOT what one would merely choose it to be.
I...you....what??

You do understand I was making a point about suffering, right? Not geology. Why not address the actual content of my post rather than sidestepping it and tossing big fat Red Herring into the room.

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#98035 Apr 1, 2013
do whut wrote:
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Most of the time it just says angels. No mention of gender.
I doubt we will be naked in heaven. All mention of angels or Christ always indicates robes.
Adam and Eve were naked for the same reason babies are born naked.
Pffft. All of the angels mentioned by name were dudes and the concept of heavenly messengers almost certainly predates the writing of the Torah. Adam and Eve weren't born. They were naked because God wanted them naked. In the earliest biblical mention of an angel, Satan was naked too, unless you think serpents wear robes.
Hey, when you're done with discussing the Bible can ya discuss Dune or the Silmarillion? If a "stone burner" was a nuke based on the China syndrome, wouldn't using one violate the terms of use of family atomics? Was Tom Bombadil a valar or a maiar? That would make him older than ents, wouldn't it?

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#98036 Apr 1, 2013
do whut wrote:
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We differ here. I believe that a God powerful enough to create the universe and all that is in it, could easily produce rain, make Balaam's donkey speak, part the Red Sea, keep a bush from being consumed by fire, etc.
We differ more than here. A God that is able to create all of time and space could create rain and erase every single trace that it ever happened. He could be the universe's best ventriloquist. He could have simply had the Jews run across the tops of the waves instead of trudge through the silt of a sea bed - or simply have teleported them to the other side. We can apply fire retardant to a tree or create the illusion of speech and fire from one.
My question is not whether or not something might or could have happened. It is WTF is WRonG with people who defend those fabrications without any shred of critical thought, conscience or honesty.

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#98037 Apr 1, 2013
do whut wrote:
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I agree. I believe God has a body of flesh and bone. A glorified body similar to what we will have once resurrected.
Not sure what guffaw means.
guffaw means belly laugh.

You think the creator of the Universe, a hypothetical being that exists outside of time and is all pervasive in "creation" looks like you? A hypothetical being that is untold billions of years old, knows every single iota of datum in the entire cosmos and who will live far beyond the time that the last mote dissolves into the sea of photos exists in a corporeal body?

Guffaw!

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#98040 Apr 1, 2013
do whut wrote:
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Being as innocent as little children, I'm not sure they would have known how to multiply. If they hadn't eaten of the tree, man may have never been. It would have been those two in Eden for eternity.
I do not think we are meant to go around naked. Not sure where you are going with that
Genesis doesn't say that they were ignorant or stupid. It infers that the first humans were amoral - not comprehending the difference between right and wrong. I think religious folk have been pleading that insanity defense ever since.
Take for example:
Of course A&E were meant to go around naked.("God" still wants "Eve" to stay barefoot and pregnant, doesn't "he?") God got ticked when he found them covering their nakedness. And then you have the holy rollers drooling and spitting over the idea of a nude beach or nudist colony. What the heck? If some 68 year old retiree wants to sit around in their alltogethers and have a beer, why should anyone care? That was God's dress code in the year one.
GWB

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#98041 Apr 1, 2013
-NEPHILIM- wrote:
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Kind of makes you think tho. The angels were with God the whole time, saw him create the Earth, the humans and knew his power and yet, one out of three angels thought God sucked. That's not very good odds when you claim to be the God of love.
Yes, I agree.

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#98042 Apr 1, 2013
-NEPHILIM- wrote:
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Kind of makes you think tho. The angels were with God the whole time, saw him create the Earth, the humans and knew his power and yet, one out of three angels thought God sucked. That's not very good odds when you claim to be the God of love.
Do you mean that following do whut's rationale that God and the angels have human like forms and personalities, God shouldn't have been at all surprised at mankind's independent streak.
Consider Genesis 1:26 "And God said, Let us make man in our image, after our likeness:"
Doesn't that indicate that He was talking about creating a race exactly in form and temperament as the heavenly Host, and that the Heavenly Host in fact took an active part in the creation process?(Sabotage, or a job done TOO well for His liking?) If he was angry enough at humans to obliterate all but 6, why has he spared the one third who were the instigators and source of disobedience?

All absolutely speculative, of course. We know the OBVIOUS (and best) answer. Man created God and the angels in his own image.
I don't care about a rebuttal from the serious religies any more than I care of the significance when Samantha Stevens twitched her nose LRL vs. RLR or whether Mortimer Mouse was Mickey's father or older brother.

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#98043 Apr 1, 2013
GWB wrote:
<quoted text>That from the BOM or how all LDS believe or scriptures that led you to think that way?
The LDS do believe that, but I did before joining as well. Not sure when I figured that out

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#98044 Apr 1, 2013
Skeptical Spectacles wrote:
<quoted text>I haven't been following this thread closely the last few days, but I'm having trouble getting the logic here (maybe it's just because I'm coming in late...)

If it was your god's intent for Adam and Eve to do exactly as they did in the Garden of Eden...then what were they guilty of?
It's the problem of evil.
Is your god omnipotent (and omniscient)? If so, he not only knew what would happen, be created everything in order for it to happen. So, he must not be benevolent.
Actions still have consequences. He gave them 2 commandments. They could only follow one.
If they didn't eat of the tree, they would have lived forever, but alone. Because they wouldn't know how to procreate. Eve was tricked into eating of the fruit, so she would be cast out. In order to fulfill the second commandment of multiplying, Adam had to go with her. So he ate the fruit. That means the consequence if death and living outside the garden was in effect.
I don't know if God is omnipotent. I think He has to abide by some eternal laws or He loses His status as God. So to us He is, but what if God is subject to His Father? Something to think about
TruthIs

Glenpool, OK

#98045 Apr 1, 2013
NO no brain washing wrote:
You ppl are so brain washed with religious bull crap .PPL should be allowed to make their own minds up about religion .Not be force brain washed at school .For you fools that think it will help stop the shootings .Look at how well religion has worked in keeping world peace.I do not want my child infected with primitive beliefs of an invisible man .We came from apes get over it
No-- we did not originate from apes. Please to NOT DUHMdown science and show that most ignorant ape pictograph as any sort of explanation of origin to my children.

Apes did NOT just magically appear OR rain out of the sky.

See how derwooDUHMism lowers the level of intellience, right off the bat.

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