Bible study rules for public schools proposed

Feb 10, 2010 Full story: The Courier-Journal 132,232

FRANKFORT, Ky. - The state would create rules for teaching about the Bible in public high schools under a bill filed Monday by three Democratic senators.

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“There is no god.”

Since: Jan 12

USA

#97893 Mar 31, 2013
do whut wrote:
<quoted text>
Nah, I'm popping popcorn. It's fun watching you
She that young? Or just reliving glory days?

Just watching me, the religie whisperer. Good ole mick said it best "under my spell", Lmao.

“There is no god.”

Since: Jan 12

USA

#97894 Mar 31, 2013
do whut wrote:
<quoted text>
Remember this? Chester?
And this proves what, I said that I hate, and?

Let me dumb it down for ya, you still won't get it, because your "special religie/topix understanding" will get in the way.
Yes, I hate.
I hate -15 degree mornings and the fire is out.
I hate colonoscopies, very much so.(I guess you love them?)
I hate when peoples lives and feedom are crushed because of ridiculous religious beliefs.
I hate what your friend the sozi stands for, ignorance.

And I really hate sunshine on my pillow, that is why I close my drapes.

Where do I say, I hate people or religie fungus, did god tell you? Full of hate, lol. Do I respect religie fungus, a big fat NO is the answer, deal with it, and stop bearing false witness.
Respect, I have zero for you, religies, religion and your kwisatz haderach, if you consider that hate, well blame your own ignorance.

Lmao, you're truly delusional and your understanding sucks.
And by your non response to the religie hate posts on here, I would also say you're a hypocrite.

See no hate just FUN, you watching?

I also hate to make long posts, grammar nazi lurks.

Since: Aug 10

Location hidden

#97895 Mar 31, 2013
Yiago wrote:
<quoted text>How is the spirit world better? We know this world exists, we do not know any spirit world. Seems like this world would be better by virtue of being REAL.

Also, this idea that the physical world is a place to wipe your feet before entering some other world seems like a ridiculous notion. I heard someone say it sounds like a "cosmic practical joke". We're "put" here with no evidence to suggest a god, then we're expected to simply believe in one. And we aren't even given good information about which one is the real one.

You need to take the Outsider Test for Faith.

http://debunkingchristianity.blogspot.com/201...

Later, dude. At least you're a nice person to debate. Though I don't' believe you think very deeply on these topics.
I don't mean to deceive. I have thought very deeply for years about matters of faith. Sometimes I don't go into enough detail on here, maybe.
This isn't a place to just wipe your feet. This earthly experience was the next step in our progression to become more like our Father in Heaven.
Ever notice how kids don't really seem to grow up until they leave home and are free to make their own choices? Then they learn to deal with the consequences from those actions. It is very similar to this experience.

The Spirit world is where we go to await judgment day. Those that have not accepted Christ go to one part called prison. This is where the New Testament says Jesus went to teach the souls that had already passed that did not believe in Him (or have the opportunity).
Paradise is the other part of the Spirit world where Jesus told one of the thieves hanging next to Him he would go because he had believed in Christ.
As Jesus demonstrated, those that never had the chance to hear the gospel and accept it, will hear it and be given that chance. This is because God is a just God.

The reason it will be better is because Satan will not be present to lead souls astray.

Since: Aug 10

Location hidden

#97896 Mar 31, 2013
ChromiuMan wrote:
do whut wrote, "<quoted text>
I'm not talking about ordinances or cultures, or even traditions. I mean communication with God"

With the proper indoctrination and peer support someone could have the conviction that they hear "the Force" and that the Cylons are battling Buck Rogers and the Power Rangers in the Horsehead Nebula for control of the Monoliths.
There is no more evidence to believe so than there is for the Garden of Eden, the Noahic flood, the Tower of Babel, walking on water, loaves and fishes, talking animals, golden plates, Jonah's fish... yet those things are real? I dismiss them as highly, totally, extremely, thoroughly, profoundly improbable not because of a religious bias, but because THAT'S WHAT THEY ARE.

If you could be objective and display any self-honesty, you would concede that your argument for feelings = reality is fostered by testimony of religious authority, emotional investment, insecurities and fervent desires - the same things employed as tools of manipulation by Jim Jones, David Koresh and Marshall Applewhite.
I never said any of the stories of God are easy to believe. Just the opposite. It requires faith and a testimony of Jesus Christ to believe the stories of the Bible. I believe that if a God was powerful enough to create all that you are looking at, then He is powerful enough to perform everything in the scriptures. And these abnormal events are what these people experienced and passed down. I'm sure there were thousands of days where totally uninteresting things occurred too. But why write about these things?
Who would think it necessary to write "Abraham arose from his slumber and caught 6 fishes. He then cleaned them and his family ate. Then they made some clothes out of animal skins, then went back to sleep."
We are told more about the interactions with God that were out of the ordinary and the things that are necessary for salvation. Also, quite a bit about their way of life.
It absolutely takes faith to believe it. Then again, if there were no ancient ruins of an advanced civilization that built complex structures and figured out how to preserve their bodies for thousands of years, we would have a hard time believing that too. It's our nature. That's why Christ said blessed was Thomas because he saw and then believed, but more blessed are those who believe but have not seen.

Since: Aug 10

Location hidden

#97897 Mar 31, 2013
LOL in a suit wrote:
<quoted text>And just because you believe it.......

Lmao, I noticed someone said you were a nice enough person to debate. I would disagree, I see another "haven't forgot" so much arrogance, covered with a fine coating of smugness and wanting respect, a ridiculous peacock.
Happy Easter

Since: Aug 10

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#97898 Mar 31, 2013
LOL in a suit wrote:
<quoted text>No need to look far to find another lie of yours, 98%? 2600+ posts I've made and you have read each one? Another wrong belief? False witness? I would say typical religie thing. Your friend the sozi is proof enough of that. Heres a fact 98% of all u.s. prison inmates are religies. Hate?
No I haven't read them all, but all that I have seen say the same thing.

Since: Aug 10

Location hidden

#97899 Mar 31, 2013
LOL in a suit wrote:
<quoted text>She that young? Or just reliving glory days?

Just watching me, the religie whisperer. Good ole mick said it best "under my spell", Lmao.
I must say I didn't miss you while you were gone

Since: Aug 10

Location hidden

#97900 Mar 31, 2013
LOL in a suit wrote:
<quoted text>And this proves what, I said that I hate, and?

Let me dumb it down for ya, you still won't get it, because your "special religie/topix understanding" will get in the way.
Yes, I hate.
I hate -15 degree mornings and the fire is out.
I hate colonoscopies, very much so.(I guess you love them?)
I hate when peoples lives and feedom are crushed because of ridiculous religious beliefs.
I hate what your friend the sozi stands for, ignorance.

And I really hate sunshine on my pillow, that is why I close my drapes.

Where do I say, I hate people or religie fungus, did god tell you? Full of hate, lol. Do I respect religie fungus, a big fat NO is the answer, deal with it, and stop bearing false witness.
Respect, I have zero for you, religies, religion and your kwisatz haderach, if you consider that hate, well blame your own ignorance.

Lmao, you're truly delusional and your understanding sucks.
And by your non response to the religie hate posts on here, I would also say you're a hypocrite.

See no hate just FUN, you watching?

I also hate to make long posts, grammar nazi lurks.
Walk me through how you conclude that I'm a hypocrite. I had trouble understanding your jabber.

Explain to us all again how you don't hate those with faith too. We all missed that too. I guess you call the filth you spew, love?

“Question, Explore, Discover”

Since: Dec 11

Location hidden

#97901 Mar 31, 2013
Carchar king wrote:
Here's an atheist most feared question.
what evidence is there behind atheism, I mean you guys always ask chritians for evidence, but let me ask you you're evidence.
There is plenty of evidence for Christ, since they found noah's ark, scientists found it the exact size of the ark in the bible. Also look up scientific evidence and you'll get a lot.
So now where is you're evidence. There is almost as much evidence as there is as evolution, but you atheists acted like you never heard of it.
so give you're evidence.
Wow. Reading this post did a lot of physical damage to my brain.

I won't re-tread. Other posters have already pointed out your phenomenal fallacy. But I just have to stand back in wondrous awe at your claim that "they found noah's ark".

You couldn't have said "they found Santa Claus" and made me laugh any harder.

“There is no god”

Since: Jul 12

War, WV

#97902 Mar 31, 2013
do whut wrote:
<quoted text>
I never said any of the stories of God are easy to believe. Just the opposite. It requires faith and a testimony of Jesus Christ to believe the stories of the Bible. I believe that if a God was powerful enough to create all that you are looking at, then He is powerful enough to perform everything in the scriptures. And these abnormal events are what these people experienced and passed down. I'm sure there were thousands of days where totally uninteresting things occurred too. But why write about these things?
Who would think it necessary to write "Abraham arose from his slumber and caught 6 fishes. He then cleaned them and his family ate. Then they made some clothes out of animal skins, then went back to sleep."
We are told more about the interactions with God that were out of the ordinary and the things that are necessary for salvation. Also, quite a bit about their way of life.
It absolutely takes faith to believe it. Then again, if there were no ancient ruins of an advanced civilization that built complex structures and figured out how to preserve their bodies for thousands of years, we would have a hard time believing that too. It's our nature. That's why Christ said blessed was Thomas because he saw and then believed, but more blessed are those who believe but have not seen.
I call bull. The bible is not hard to read and is not hard to understand. What is hard about " Do not spare him, but kill men and women, children and infants, oxen and sheep, camels and asses.'(1 Samuel 15:2-3 NAB)"?
When confronted with the bible christians prove that the bible is fake by going "you dont understand the bible" (yes, I do grasp what I read) or "you can not understand the bible with out the holy spirit" BULLCRAP!
How hard is this to understand, you may purchase male or female slaves from among the foreigners who live among you. You may also purchase the children of such resident foreigners, including those who have been born in your land. You may treat them as your property, passing them on to your children as a permanent inheritance. You may treat your slaves like this, but the people of Israel, your relatives, must never be treated this way.(Leviticus 25:44-46 ???(oh? Things where different back then? Slavery was good then but now that WE PAGANS will not LET you own slaves it is bad?)
Come on, we are not stupid so stop trying to bullshit us.

“There is no god”

Since: Jul 12

War, WV

#97903 Mar 31, 2013
Yiago wrote:
<quoted text>
Wow. Reading this post did a lot of physical damage to my brain.
I won't re-tread. Other posters have already pointed out your phenomenal fallacy. But I just have to stand back in wondrous awe at your claim that "they found noah's ark".
You couldn't have said "they found Santa Claus" and made me laugh any harder.
The cult resorting to lies and fraud (hoaxes) is further proof that they know that their cult is based on lies and that they themselves are liars. How low is it that you lie to push an evil cult on to some one?

“Question, Explore, Discover”

Since: Dec 11

Location hidden

#97904 Mar 31, 2013
do whut wrote:
<quoted text>
I don't mean to deceive. I have thought very deeply for years about matters of faith. Sometimes I don't go into enough detail on here, maybe.
This isn't a place to just wipe your feet. This earthly experience was the next step in our progression to become more like our Father in Heaven.
Ever notice how kids don't really seem to grow up until they leave home and are free to make their own choices? Then they learn to deal with the consequences from those actions. It is very similar to this experience.
The Spirit world is where we go to await judgment day. Those that have not accepted Christ go to one part called prison. This is where the New Testament says Jesus went to teach the souls that had already passed that did not believe in Him (or have the opportunity).
Paradise is the other part of the Spirit world where Jesus told one of the thieves hanging next to Him he would go because he had believed in Christ.
As Jesus demonstrated, those that never had the chance to hear the gospel and accept it, will hear it and be given that chance. This is because God is a just God.
The reason it will be better is because Satan will not be present to lead souls astray.
I'm familiar with Mormon theology.

Everything you said here is either a common truism of life or an assertion about something you cannot possibly know.

That is why faith and reason are oil and water. Respectfully, I find your worldview to be limiting and dangerous. And, frankly, kind of silly. Like I said a few dozen pages ago.

“There is no god”

Since: Jul 12

War, WV

#97905 Mar 31, 2013
Yiago wrote:
<quoted text>
I'm familiar with Mormon theology.
Everything you said here is either a common truism of life or an assertion about something you cannot possibly know.
That is why faith and reason are oil and water. Respectfully, I find your worldview to be limiting and dangerous. And, frankly, kind of silly. Like I said a few dozen pages ago.
But, but they have the magic book and the garden of eden is in Minnesota and it is non of the governments business how many wives they have or how old the wives are because god said so, the prophet heard him

“There is no god.”

Since: Jan 12

USA

#97906 Mar 31, 2013
do whut wrote:
<quoted text>
I had trouble understanding
I know dim wit, and that was the dumbed down religie version, but the holyhatebible never said god gave you intelligence. After all god did bitch slap his first clay religie dummies for seeking knowledge. It's not your fault that you're an idiot, god did it.

Since: Aug 10

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#97907 Mar 31, 2013
Satanic Priest wrote:
<quoted text>I call bull. The bible is not hard to read and is not hard to understand. What is hard about " Do not spare him, but kill men and women, children and infants, oxen and sheep, camels and asses.'(1 Samuel 15:2-3 NAB)"?
When confronted with the bible christians prove that the bible is fake by going "you dont understand the bible" (yes, I do grasp what I read) or "you can not understand the bible with out the holy spirit" BULLCRAP!
How hard is this to understand, you may purchase male or female slaves from among the foreigners who live among you. You may also purchase the children of such resident foreigners, including those who have been born in your land. You may treat them as your property, passing them on to your children as a permanent inheritance. You may treat your slaves like this, but the people of Israel, your relatives, must never be treated this way.(Leviticus 25:44-46 ???(oh? Things where different back then? Slavery was good then but now that WE PAGANS will not LET you own slaves it is bad?)
Come on, we are not stupid so stop trying to bullshit us.
I didn't say the Bible was hard to understand. Nor did I mention any of what you are talking about.

But since you brought it up, slavery was different then. Slavery happened when someone owed a man a debt. They were not treated like slaves that resemble the terrible stories that we have heard on our own soil (most of the time).
As far as the killing of women and children, are you talking about king Saul?

Since: Aug 10

Location hidden

#97908 Mar 31, 2013
Yiago wrote:
<quoted text>I'm familiar with Mormon theology.

Everything you said here is either a common truism of life or an assertion about something you cannot possibly know.

That is why faith and reason are oil and water. Respectfully, I find your worldview to be limiting and dangerous. And, frankly, kind of silly. Like I said a few dozen pages ago.
I'm just telling you what I believe to be true. I don't find it silly.
My worldview stretches much further, I assure you. Why do you think me a simpleton?

Since: Aug 10

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#97909 Mar 31, 2013
Satanic Priest wrote:
<quoted text>But, but they have the magic book and the garden of eden is in Minnesota and it is non of the governments business how many wives they have or how old the wives are because god said so, the prophet heard him
None of what you just said resembles Mormonism

Since: Aug 10

Location hidden

#97910 Mar 31, 2013
LOL in a suit wrote:
<quoted text>I know dim wit, and that was the dumbed down religie version, but the holyhatebible never said god gave you intelligence. After all god did bitch slap his first clay religie dummies for seeking knowledge. It's not your fault that you're an idiot, god did it.
Thank you for enlightening me. You must be talking on a higher level that I just can't comprehend.

I hope you picked up on the sarcasm. I basted it on pretty thick.

“There is no god.”

Since: Jan 12

USA

#97911 Mar 31, 2013
do whut wrote:
<quoted text>But since you brought it up, slavery was different then. Slavery happened when someone owed a man a debt.


Sooooo, the myth should be, the israelites owed egypt a debt and became their slaves and god told them to not pay their debt and run, lmao, you may be a GenuineChristian†.

“There is no god.”

Since: Jan 12

USA

#97912 Mar 31, 2013
do whut wrote:
<quoted text> Why do you think me a simpleton?
Hmmm, religie.

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