Bible study rules for public schools proposed

There are 20 comments on the Feb 10, 2010, The Courier-Journal story titled Bible study rules for public schools proposed. In it, The Courier-Journal reports that:

FRANKFORT, Ky. - The state would create rules for teaching about the Bible in public high schools under a bill filed Monday by three Democratic senators.

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The EaterBunny

London, KY

#97834 Mar 30, 2013
Yiago wrote:
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Really? If one of my kids was about to be...oh....I don't know...raped and murdered and tossed down a well, and I had the power to stop it, guess what I would do?
I'd stop it.
The god-as-parent argument is, to me, ridiculous. Unless god is just as fallible and weak as a human parent. But that's not the God you believe in. Your God can create universes and orchestrate the entire human condition.
He could stop a rape and murder.
Why doesn't he?
That's why people are just people, NOT any sort of "God(s)".
TruthIs

London, KY

#97835 Mar 30, 2013
ChromiuMan wrote:
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Many times there is no difference between "peoples harmless personal beliefs and psycho-socioIllogical behaviors." I do not advocate validating and protecting disorders beneath the robes of religion.
I don't advocate validating or protecting disorders that are harmful to others beneath the robes/rubes/guises of ANYTHING.
Including IGNORANCE.
TruthIs

London, KY

#97836 Mar 30, 2013
Satanic Priest wrote:
<quoted text>One of our gardenias just bloomed and it is beautiful and smells so good, will not find that in a "church"
WOuld if someone picked a peck of them, put them in a bowl with water, and placed them in a church, where others could enjoy the fragrance as well.
Just saying :-).
GWB

Roseville, CA

#97837 Mar 30, 2013
Yiago wrote:
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Man I hope that pans out to something useful!
I second that thought. Here is another interesting one of a girl that does not age.

http://abcnews.go.com/2020/Health/girl-age-br...
GWB

Roseville, CA

#97838 Mar 30, 2013
I wonder what atheist and Christians think about this group?

Army of God.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Army_of_God_%28U...

Since: Nov 12

Location hidden

#97839 Mar 30, 2013
Irish Blessing

May the road rise to meet you,
May the wind be always at your back.
May the sun shine warm upon your face,
The rains fall soft upon your fields.
May God hold you in the palm HIS HAND.

HAPPY EASTER!

Since: Aug 10

Location hidden

#97840 Mar 30, 2013
KittenKoder wrote:
<quoted text>Leprechauns ... some people had even swore to catching them. There is more evidence supporting leprechauns than any of the proposed gods, any of them. There's more evidence of Zeus than the christian god even. Just consider your sources for a moment, then consider who has the greater incentive to lie ...

Religious leaders:
1. Money comes from the followers.
2. Their influence over the followers garners them political power.
3. They have more rights in the area with the same religious belief.

Atheist/Agnostic:
1. No followers, therefore no money.
2. Must stand on your own demonstrated value and worth for opinions.
3. Act right without the threat of punishment or reward.
4. Risk not only losing rights but also risk bodily harm by admitting to it.

Who has the reasons to lie?
Not every Christian church. Our church leaders do not get paid. None of them. Sorry to debunk you.
One of the reasons I left the Protestant church I grew up in.

What evidence is there for Zeus?

Since: Aug 10

Location hidden

#97841 Mar 30, 2013
-NEPHILIM- wrote:
<quoted text>I think the Mormons bring in over 7 billion a year in tax free tithing, I'm sure others religions do even better.
Yes , and isn't it nice that this money doesn't go in someone's pocket? It goes to building buildings and assistance for natural disasters, etc

Since: Aug 10

Location hidden

#97842 Mar 30, 2013
Yiago wrote:
<quoted text>Really? If one of my kids was about to be...oh....I don't know...raped and murdered and tossed down a well, and I had the power to stop it, guess what I would do?

I'd stop it.

The god-as-parent argument is, to me, ridiculous. Unless god is just as fallible and weak as a human parent. But that's not the God you believe in. Your God can create universes and orchestrate the entire human condition.

He could stop a rape and murder.

Why doesn't he?
I don't know. Sometimes He does. Sometimes He does not. We all have different challenges. Sometimes we or a loved one go through things so we learn something, or to prepare us for something in the future. As I said, God doesn't get involved in every human act. We all wish bad things didn't happen, such as accidents, but rapes and murders are not God's fault. The only fault here are the monsters that orchestrate the act.

Since: Aug 10

Location hidden

#97843 Mar 30, 2013
ChromiuMan wrote:
<quoted text>TruthIs wrote, "<quoted text>
See now that is where there seems to be a problem for some (including those that wish to lump and label ANY sector of society with same ignorant broad brush strokes) in differentiating between peoples harmless personal beliefs, and psycho-socioIllogical behaviors.
That type of brandishing is either
A. Outright Ignorance (willful or otherwise)
or
B. Psycho-Socio ILLogical.
Because, many times, there IS a difference."

Many times there is no difference between "peoples harmless personal beliefs and psycho-socioIllogical behaviors." I do not advocate validating and protecting disorders beneath the robes of religion.
Your opinion. Sorry you feel it's a "disorder".
Consider the word "fun". It's a word that's hard to explain to someone that has never experienced it. It doesn't mean that the one observing someone having fun is correct by saying they must have a mental disorder.

“See how you are?”

Since: Jul 12

Earth

#97844 Mar 30, 2013
TruthIs wrote:
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I don't advocate validating or protecting disorders that are harmful to others beneath the robes/rubes/guises of ANYTHING.
Including IGNORANCE.
There are many who advocate validating and protecting what you might deem "harmless" disorders. Including ignorance and in some cases, ESPECIALLY ignorance.
TruthIs

London, KY

#97845 Mar 30, 2013
ChromiuMan wrote:
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There are many who advocate validating and protecting what you might deem "harmless" disorders. Including ignorance and in some cases, ESPECIALLY ignorance.
Obviously.

Just look at all the hateful posts on this thread directed at others, who simply see things differently.

There IS a difference between disagreeing and having differences in opinion from others, and merely attacking others with out having justifiable, rational or ethical cause.
One is logical, the other is just Wrong.

“See how you are?”

Since: Jul 12

Earth

#97846 Mar 30, 2013
do whut wrote:
<quoted text>
Your opinion. Sorry you feel it's a "disorder".
Consider the word "fun". It's a word that's hard to explain to someone that has never experienced it. It doesn't mean that the one observing someone having fun is correct by saying they must have a mental disorder.
Charles Manson's idea of "fun" is probably alien to you and me both.
My wife has no idea why I find Topix entertaining, and I don't share her appreciation and enthusiasm for scrapbooking.
It isn't unlikely that an outside observer might evaluate that both of us displays a little OCD. That's fair - the psyche is a spaghetti bowl of subtle quirks and eccentricities only discerned from "disorders" by amounts and direction.
But then there is religion - a construct that in many cases actually encourages breaks from reality. A case in point.
Would you feel some form of positive emotion in observing a bris? I wouldn't. To some degree, one might argue that those experiencing pride, fulfillment or happiness at a mutilation ceremony might be irrational at best and deranged at worst. Oh, but what is a foreskin, anyway - right? Some doctors even dismiss it as a hygienic preemptive strike - one of God's little mistakes?. Then what about female circumcisions as performed in some Muslim cultures?

“See how you are?”

Since: Jul 12

Earth

#97847 Mar 30, 2013
TruthIs wrote:
<quoted text>
Obviously.
Just look at all the hateful posts on this thread directed at others, who simply see things differently.
There IS a difference between disagreeing and having differences in opinion from others, and merely attacking others with out having justifiable, rational or ethical cause.
One is logical, the other is just Wrong.
Simply not comprehending others' opinions do not make them unjustified. Denying ignorance of a subject does not make one learned. Basing decisions exclusively on emotional investments and religious vestments does not indicate one is either rational or ethical.

Since: Aug 10

Location hidden

#97848 Mar 30, 2013
ChromiuMan wrote:
<quoted text>Charles Manson's idea of "fun" is probably alien to you and me both.
My wife has no idea why I find Topix entertaining, and I don't share her appreciation and enthusiasm for scrapbooking.
It isn't unlikely that an outside observer might evaluate that both of us displays a little OCD. That's fair - the psyche is a spaghetti bowl of subtle quirks and eccentricities only discerned from "disorders" by amounts and direction.
But then there is religion - a construct that in many cases actually encourages breaks from reality. A case in point.
Would you feel some form of positive emotion in observing a bris? I wouldn't. To some degree, one might argue that those experiencing pride, fulfillment or happiness at a mutilation ceremony might be irrational at best and deranged at worst. Oh, but what is a foreskin, anyway - right? Some doctors even dismiss it as a hygienic preemptive strike - one of God's little mistakes?. Then what about female circumcisions as performed in some Muslim cultures?
I'm not talking about ordinances or cultures, or even traditions. I mean communication with God

Since: Aug 10

Location hidden

#97849 Mar 30, 2013
ChromiuMan wrote:
<quoted text>Simply not comprehending others' opinions do not make them unjustified. Denying ignorance of a subject does not make one learned. Basing decisions exclusively on emotional investments and religious vestments does not indicate one is either rational or ethical.
Haha. The exact same could be said of the religious opinions shared on here that you completely dismiss as impossible. Just because you haven't experienced it doesn't mean it's unjustified.

“There is no god”

Since: Jul 12

War, WV

#97850 Mar 30, 2013
TruthIs wrote:
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WOuld if someone picked a peck of them, put them in a bowl with water, and placed them in a church, where others could enjoy the fragrance as well.
Just saying :-).
And kill the flower? No, I would rather let nature take its course than kill for people who would not appreciate the beauty

“I'll think about it.”

Since: Nov 07

central Florida

#97851 Mar 30, 2013
The EaterBunny wrote:
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Please do not ever try to sort books in a public library. Based upon your nothing-of your own interpretation, you'd FAIL miserably trying to do so, as it's obviously OUT of your realm of comprehension and tolerance.
I have volunteered at the local library. I can Dewey just fine.
You might have noticed I said *MY* bookshelves if you got your head out of your a$$ once in a while.

You are so amusing. You love to critisize people that you percieve to be critisizing others.
If critisizing offends you, why are you doing it?
Why aren't you being understanding and tolerant like you keep yammering about?

You are just another troll begging for attention.

Yep, I just critisized YOU.

“I'll think about it.”

Since: Nov 07

central Florida

#97852 Mar 30, 2013
Satanic Priest wrote:
The Dallas Morning News reported that many were angry about how little was done.
Gilyard's next stop was Victory Baptist Church in Richardson, Texas, where “at least 4 women” made accusations against him. As reported in the Dallas Morning News, one woman said she was “raped.”
Gilyard was allowed to resign from Victory Baptist after confessing to “several adulterous relationships.” That was the description Paige Patterson gave to Gilyard’s conduct, as quoted in the Dallas Morning News. It was "the fourth time in four years" that Gilyard had been "forced to walk away from a congregation."
The morning after Gilyard’s resignation, Paige Patterson also described Gilyard as one of the “most brilliant men in the pulpit.”
Just two weeks later, Darrell Gilyard was preaching in the pulpit of another church.
In 1993, Darrell Gilyard became pastor of Shiloh Metropolitan Baptist Church in Jacksonville, Florida. Gilyard was encouraged by former Southern Baptist president Jerry Vines, who “agreed to forgive” Gilyard for his “out-of-state troubles.” Reportedly, Vines also gave credence to Gilyard by speaking from the pulpit of Gilyard’s church.
Now, finally, Gilyard faces trial in Florida on criminal charges of child molestation and lewd conduct.
Consider how many have likely been hurt. Based on published news accounts, 42 women made accusations against Gilyard. Some of them were mere college students.Now 2 underage teen girls have reported Gilyard. That’s a total of 44.
And that’s just the ones we know about. How many more were so traumatized that they stayed silent?
Yet, even in the face of so many published accusations,“Gilyard is said to be preaching and teaching at another church in Jacksonville.”
So where are the voices of Paige Patterson and Jerry Vines now? These two former Southern Baptist presidents were plenty willing to use their powerful voices to promoteGilyard. Why aren’t they now willing to use their powerful voices to get Gilyard out of the pulpit?
Why aren’t there other Southern Baptist leaders who are speaking up?
Why isn’t anyone in Southern Baptist leadership willing to take a stand and say how wrong it is to allow Gilyard in the pulpit?
Why isn’t anyone in Southern Baptist leadership willing to take a stand on behalf of the 44 known wounded women and girls? Aren’t 44 enough?
How many does it take?
Come on, SP. You know the answer to that one.
"Christians aren't perfect. They are forgiven."

“There is no god”

Since: Jul 12

War, WV

#97853 Mar 30, 2013
Here is the bottom line, christians do not want to let others be free in their religion. They condemn other religions and try to deny others the same rights they have.
Then when people fight back they cry about how we are treating them even though it is the same way they treat others.
So you believe you have to tell others about jesus? Well when they tell you they are not interested or do not believe DROP IT and RESPECT their right to not belong to your cult.
So many christians are crying that their cult is being attacked when people are just fighting fire with fire, how about how you freaks attack every one else? HUH?
Stop crying about being treated as you have treated others. What is the golden rule? HUH? WHAT IS THE GOLDEN RULE!

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