Bible study rules for public schools proposed

Feb 10, 2010 Full story: The Courier-Journal 132,148

FRANKFORT, Ky. - The state would create rules for teaching about the Bible in public high schools under a bill filed Monday by three Democratic senators.

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“There is no god.”

Since: Jan 12

USA

#97586 Mar 28, 2013
Satanic Priest wrote:
<quoted text>When caught they say they are forgiven
Yep, god in a jesus suit loves a sinner.

“In God we trust”

Since: Dec 12

Cape Town, South Africa

#97587 Mar 28, 2013
LOL in a suit wrote:
<quoted text>
"I admit that I sometimes make mistakes, but I don't fear admitting it and owning up to them."
Yep, thats a big difference between Atheist and religies, religies will lie instead of admitting their actions are wrong.
It's actually very much the opposite way. Atheists make mistakes and then they try acting so smart.

“In God we trust”

Since: Dec 12

Cape Town, South Africa

#97588 Mar 28, 2013
Lilith_Satans_who_re wrote:
wow kentuckians want the bible a 2000 year old comic book taught in school.... hhhhmmmm no wonder they ain't thought of as very bright
Comics have pictures, which proves you atheists ignorant, because you don't bother to read it once in your lives.

“In God we trust”

Since: Dec 12

Cape Town, South Africa

#97589 Mar 28, 2013
LOL in a suit wrote:
<quoted text>Lol, religion is not humanity it's an idiot thing, you must be confused. Hypocrisy? Or maybe just thinking of a underage virgin spouse?
It can't be a idiot thing if there are 6billion followers and only 900million atheists.
What

Swampscott, MA

#97590 Mar 28, 2013
Gregg wrote:
What's the legislature doing this for? They are $1 billion + short on the budget.
Why does my vagina sometimes hurt when I have sex?
Talia

Swampscott, MA

#97591 Mar 28, 2013
LOL in a suit wrote:
<quoted text>Lol, religion is not humanity it's an idiot thing, you must be confused. Hypocrisy? Or maybe just thinking of a underage virgin spouse?
Do I look weird down there compared to other women?

“In God we trust”

Since: Dec 12

Cape Town, South Africa

#97592 Mar 28, 2013
do whut wrote:
<quoted text>
I was being sarcastic
All of a sudden.

“There is no god.”

Since: Jan 12

USA

#97593 Mar 28, 2013
Carchar king wrote:
<quoted text>
It's actually very much the opposite way. Atheists make mistakes and then they try acting so smart.
Can you give an example?

“There is no god.”

Since: Jan 12

USA

#97594 Mar 28, 2013
Carchar king wrote:
<quoted text>
It can't be a idiot thing if there are 6billion followers and only 900million atheists.
Could you give a reference for your numbers, I would like to see it myself?
Tacoma

Swampscott, MA

#97595 Mar 28, 2013
Richmond transplant wrote:
Give them a bible, a Koran (which is mostly new testament), a Torah, the Bhagaved Gita, Mao's little red book and Hubbard's Dianetics. If you're gonna feed your children ignorance, why not go ape sht.
Why I don't have vaginal orgasms. Can I change that?
Please answer!
pat

Mount Ida, AR

#97596 Mar 28, 2013
Satanic Priest wrote:
James Holmes, the Co. shooter has accepted jesus as his savior and asked god for forgiveness so he is now your brother (if you are a christian) ad will be in heaven with you i love
Bwahahahaha
...Hitler, your christian brother awaits your heaven also..lololololololololol...lo ve your bros!
Laura

Swampscott, MA

#97597 Mar 28, 2013
Carchar king wrote:
<quoted text>
All of a sudden.
Is the smell of my vagina okay?
Laura

Swampscott, MA

#97598 Mar 28, 2013
LOL in a suit wrote:
<quoted text>Can you give an example?
yeah, give an example. I will appreciated that very much

“Speaker of Mountain Wisdom....”

Since: Jan 10

East Bernstadt, KY

#97602 Mar 28, 2013
LOL in a suit wrote:
<quoted text>Could you give a reference for your numbers, I would like to see it myself?
Actual Numbers, not that made up crap he posted...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_religiou...
Laura

Swampscott, MA

#97603 Mar 28, 2013
Country Bumpkin2 wrote:
<quoted text>
So what did God have to say about the Amish school shootings?
I was on the table, legs spread, anticipating with feline delight the duck bill (as call de speculum), and I heard the doctor flipping through the labias of my pusssy. Then, out of nowhere, he mention that he'd noticed I'd gain weight. Really?! could you have said that before I was seated umcomfortably at the edge of the table, naked, Mothher ffucker. Really?! I told him I was there for him to examine my vagina, not my waistline I never went back to him again.
pat

Mount Ida, AR

#97604 Mar 28, 2013
-NEPHILIM- wrote:
<quoted text>
You guys can't even agree on basic bible teachings and you love to brag about your God's killing and torturing powers.
...I always enjoy how after a natural disaster occurs, such as a tornado/hurrican...half the town (that surives) goes public with their, "thanks to god" for sparing them...but yet they never bother to consider a "thankx to god" for bringing the damn disaster.....talk about brain washed, geeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee !@#%

“Speaker of Mountain Wisdom....”

Since: Jan 10

East Bernstadt, KY

#97605 Mar 28, 2013
pat wrote:
<quoted text>
...I always enjoy how after a natural disaster occurs, such as a tornado/hurrican...half the town (that surives) goes public with their, "thanks to god" for sparing them...but yet they never bother to consider a "thankx to god" for bringing the damn disaster.....talk about brain washed, geeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee !@#%
That reminds me of a time in Detroit where a guy tried to commit suicide by driving his car down a side street (Trinity) toward I-696 at 100mp... He crossed the service drive and jumped the freeway which is in a trench about 15 foot deep and landed 4 lanes over and landed on top of a Church Van full of follower.... On the New the preacher was in front of the hospital as they were performing surgeries on 7 people to save their lives and he Praised God that he had protected the followers and none had dies in the horrific crash... First thing I thought was If God was their protector why didn't the guy Miss....

Since: Aug 10

Location hidden

#97606 Mar 28, 2013
KittenKoder wrote:
<quoted text>Technically no. The chances would be that over half the people you know would at one time be incarcerated, but the distribution is actually less diverse, there are areas with high concentrations of criminal activity, they will have a 90% of knowing someone who was incarcerated while you would have about a 30% chance of it, simply because of that distribution.

Statistics are a messy business, and the devil is in the details, thus why just rattling off such numbers is always ... well ... fallacious, you need to see entire reports to understand them. However, the lump total is about 60% of all the people in the US have been incarcerated, that also includes illegal immigrants and other various activities. Not everyone incarcerated stays long either, an hour and you get counted, drunk tank to sober up ... then you're counted, taken in under suspicion of anything, and you're counted.

But at the same time, you demonstrated that you are lacking perspective. The world, even our country, is massive, huge. We could hear about mass killings in the news every day for a year and still not be directly effected by one, and the chances of a loved one being a victim would still be miniscule.
My point exactly. That statistic was irrelevant.

Since: Aug 10

Location hidden

#97607 Mar 28, 2013
Yiago wrote:
<quoted text>1) I don't expect video footage. But at the same time I am not going to reduce my requirement for evidence to the point of accepting wild claims based on eye witness testimonials. In this case, we have a crazy story that cannot have happened the way it was told based on the evidence we have available. Something did in fact happen, but it was not a man being led by Angels to find a hidden gospel of Jesus Christ or pre-Jesus peoples. It was a known fraud creating a new cult. Happens all the time. The fact that 19th century people believed him is not shocking.

2) Joseph Smith was a brilliant man. He was an exceptional con artist. And 6th grade was pretty advanced for the time. Neither of my own parents went past 5th grade. Smith was far more capable intellectually than the LDS wants to admit. It makes for a better narrative if they paint him as a yokel who was led by God. And really, if you have an inspiration and a good mind, it does not take very long to crank out a book. The BoM does not strike me as a particularly difficult book either.

3) There were wild horses in the Americas ten thousand years ago. I think, based on what I remember of this topic, they might have been hunted and killed off around the same time that we killed off the mega-fauna. That does not line up at all with BoM timelines. The idea you are referring to is championed by Mormon apologists but not accepted by mainstream science. If you can show me how this evidence is part of the scientific canon I will change my opinion on this part of the topic. Otherwise, it is a case of Smith assuming horses had just always been part of the human culture.
1. And 2. Are completely your opinion. What evidence would you like to see other than the witnesses?

3. You are asking me for apologist responses. I've already told you I don't believe we are supposed to have proof, so expect more things that seem to line up but could still be considered coincidence.

Since: Aug 10

Location hidden

#97608 Mar 28, 2013
Yiago wrote:
<quoted text>1) If you already believe something to be true, then you search for evidence to back it up you are embracing a strong bias. Science, or critical thinking, is designed to eliminate as much bias as possible. However, scientists do seek evidence to support their hypothesis, which is similar to what you describe here. But there is a powerful difference. When a hypothesis is presented to a crowd of peers and those peers do not find the evidence compelling it is rejected. A good scientist then modifies the idea or abandons it. They do not cling to it out of faith. Faith is what you have when you lack a reason. It hangs on nothing but a feeling.

2) If you accept science (particles and junk) then why tack on the added complication of a Designer? Back in Joseph Smith's day he would not have had any idea about particles. No mention of them in the BoM. No mention of quantum physics. Then along comes science and discovers these properties of the universe. Suddenly God takes on the role of being behind those properties. In fact, each time we discover some deeper fact about how the universe works you have to move God one step backward in the process. In Smith's day it would have been acceptable for an educated man to say that God keeps the planets moving and has a hand in every day life. Today we know so much more about that stuff that it makes no sense to say that. God has been pushed back to an even more remote position, always occupying that space of knowledge where humans have not yet penetrated.

The term for that is God of the Gaps. You put God into the unknown spaces. Those areas of the map that say "here be monsters".
I don't think God has to play a hand in day to day physics. I think God put these things in place and set laws that they obey, like instinct for example, or gravitational pull.

I see your point of view, I just can't agree that the complexities that we now are able to find prove that God doesn't exist. I see it the opposite. I don't think it could have happened by chance.

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