Bible study rules for public schools proposed

There are 20 comments on the The Courier-Journal story from Feb 10, 2010, titled Bible study rules for public schools proposed. In it, The Courier-Journal reports that:

FRANKFORT, Ky. - The state would create rules for teaching about the Bible in public high schools under a bill filed Monday by three Democratic senators.

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“In God we trust”

Since: Dec 12

Cape Town, South Africa

#97589 Mar 28, 2013
LOL in a suit wrote:
<quoted text>Lol, religion is not humanity it's an idiot thing, you must be confused. Hypocrisy? Or maybe just thinking of a underage virgin spouse?
It can't be a idiot thing if there are 6billion followers and only 900million atheists.
What

Swampscott, MA

#97590 Mar 28, 2013
Gregg wrote:
What's the legislature doing this for? They are $1 billion + short on the budget.
Why does my vagina sometimes hurt when I have sex?
Talia

Swampscott, MA

#97591 Mar 28, 2013
LOL in a suit wrote:
<quoted text>Lol, religion is not humanity it's an idiot thing, you must be confused. Hypocrisy? Or maybe just thinking of a underage virgin spouse?
Do I look weird down there compared to other women?

“In God we trust”

Since: Dec 12

Cape Town, South Africa

#97592 Mar 28, 2013
do whut wrote:
<quoted text>
I was being sarcastic
All of a sudden.

“There is no god.”

Since: Jan 12

USA

#97593 Mar 28, 2013
Carchar king wrote:
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It's actually very much the opposite way. Atheists make mistakes and then they try acting so smart.
Can you give an example?

“There is no god.”

Since: Jan 12

USA

#97594 Mar 28, 2013
Carchar king wrote:
<quoted text>
It can't be a idiot thing if there are 6billion followers and only 900million atheists.
Could you give a reference for your numbers, I would like to see it myself?
Tacoma

Swampscott, MA

#97595 Mar 28, 2013
Richmond transplant wrote:
Give them a bible, a Koran (which is mostly new testament), a Torah, the Bhagaved Gita, Mao's little red book and Hubbard's Dianetics. If you're gonna feed your children ignorance, why not go ape sht.
Why I don't have vaginal orgasms. Can I change that?
Please answer!
pat

Mount Ida, AR

#97596 Mar 28, 2013
Satanic Priest wrote:
James Holmes, the Co. shooter has accepted jesus as his savior and asked god for forgiveness so he is now your brother (if you are a christian) ad will be in heaven with you i love
Bwahahahaha
...Hitler, your christian brother awaits your heaven also..lololololololololol...lo ve your bros!
Laura

Swampscott, MA

#97597 Mar 28, 2013
Carchar king wrote:
<quoted text>
All of a sudden.
Is the smell of my vagina okay?
Laura

Swampscott, MA

#97598 Mar 28, 2013
LOL in a suit wrote:
<quoted text>Can you give an example?
yeah, give an example. I will appreciated that very much

“Speaker of Mountain Wisdom....”

Since: Jan 10

East Bernstadt, KY

#97602 Mar 28, 2013
LOL in a suit wrote:
<quoted text>Could you give a reference for your numbers, I would like to see it myself?
Actual Numbers, not that made up crap he posted...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_religiou...
Laura

Swampscott, MA

#97603 Mar 28, 2013
Country Bumpkin2 wrote:
<quoted text>
So what did God have to say about the Amish school shootings?
I was on the table, legs spread, anticipating with feline delight the duck bill (as call de speculum), and I heard the doctor flipping through the labias of my pusssy. Then, out of nowhere, he mention that he'd noticed I'd gain weight. Really?! could you have said that before I was seated umcomfortably at the edge of the table, naked, Mothher ffucker. Really?! I told him I was there for him to examine my vagina, not my waistline I never went back to him again.
pat

Mount Ida, AR

#97604 Mar 28, 2013
-NEPHILIM- wrote:
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You guys can't even agree on basic bible teachings and you love to brag about your God's killing and torturing powers.
...I always enjoy how after a natural disaster occurs, such as a tornado/hurrican...half the town (that surives) goes public with their, "thanks to god" for sparing them...but yet they never bother to consider a "thankx to god" for bringing the damn disaster.....talk about brain washed, geeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee !@#%

“Speaker of Mountain Wisdom....”

Since: Jan 10

East Bernstadt, KY

#97605 Mar 28, 2013
pat wrote:
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...I always enjoy how after a natural disaster occurs, such as a tornado/hurrican...half the town (that surives) goes public with their, "thanks to god" for sparing them...but yet they never bother to consider a "thankx to god" for bringing the damn disaster.....talk about brain washed, geeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee !@#%
That reminds me of a time in Detroit where a guy tried to commit suicide by driving his car down a side street (Trinity) toward I-696 at 100mp... He crossed the service drive and jumped the freeway which is in a trench about 15 foot deep and landed 4 lanes over and landed on top of a Church Van full of follower.... On the New the preacher was in front of the hospital as they were performing surgeries on 7 people to save their lives and he Praised God that he had protected the followers and none had dies in the horrific crash... First thing I thought was If God was their protector why didn't the guy Miss....

Since: Aug 10

Location hidden

#97606 Mar 28, 2013
KittenKoder wrote:
<quoted text>Technically no. The chances would be that over half the people you know would at one time be incarcerated, but the distribution is actually less diverse, there are areas with high concentrations of criminal activity, they will have a 90% of knowing someone who was incarcerated while you would have about a 30% chance of it, simply because of that distribution.

Statistics are a messy business, and the devil is in the details, thus why just rattling off such numbers is always ... well ... fallacious, you need to see entire reports to understand them. However, the lump total is about 60% of all the people in the US have been incarcerated, that also includes illegal immigrants and other various activities. Not everyone incarcerated stays long either, an hour and you get counted, drunk tank to sober up ... then you're counted, taken in under suspicion of anything, and you're counted.

But at the same time, you demonstrated that you are lacking perspective. The world, even our country, is massive, huge. We could hear about mass killings in the news every day for a year and still not be directly effected by one, and the chances of a loved one being a victim would still be miniscule.
My point exactly. That statistic was irrelevant.

Since: Aug 10

Location hidden

#97607 Mar 28, 2013
Yiago wrote:
<quoted text>1) I don't expect video footage. But at the same time I am not going to reduce my requirement for evidence to the point of accepting wild claims based on eye witness testimonials. In this case, we have a crazy story that cannot have happened the way it was told based on the evidence we have available. Something did in fact happen, but it was not a man being led by Angels to find a hidden gospel of Jesus Christ or pre-Jesus peoples. It was a known fraud creating a new cult. Happens all the time. The fact that 19th century people believed him is not shocking.

2) Joseph Smith was a brilliant man. He was an exceptional con artist. And 6th grade was pretty advanced for the time. Neither of my own parents went past 5th grade. Smith was far more capable intellectually than the LDS wants to admit. It makes for a better narrative if they paint him as a yokel who was led by God. And really, if you have an inspiration and a good mind, it does not take very long to crank out a book. The BoM does not strike me as a particularly difficult book either.

3) There were wild horses in the Americas ten thousand years ago. I think, based on what I remember of this topic, they might have been hunted and killed off around the same time that we killed off the mega-fauna. That does not line up at all with BoM timelines. The idea you are referring to is championed by Mormon apologists but not accepted by mainstream science. If you can show me how this evidence is part of the scientific canon I will change my opinion on this part of the topic. Otherwise, it is a case of Smith assuming horses had just always been part of the human culture.
1. And 2. Are completely your opinion. What evidence would you like to see other than the witnesses?

3. You are asking me for apologist responses. I've already told you I don't believe we are supposed to have proof, so expect more things that seem to line up but could still be considered coincidence.

Since: Aug 10

Location hidden

#97608 Mar 28, 2013
Yiago wrote:
<quoted text>1) If you already believe something to be true, then you search for evidence to back it up you are embracing a strong bias. Science, or critical thinking, is designed to eliminate as much bias as possible. However, scientists do seek evidence to support their hypothesis, which is similar to what you describe here. But there is a powerful difference. When a hypothesis is presented to a crowd of peers and those peers do not find the evidence compelling it is rejected. A good scientist then modifies the idea or abandons it. They do not cling to it out of faith. Faith is what you have when you lack a reason. It hangs on nothing but a feeling.

2) If you accept science (particles and junk) then why tack on the added complication of a Designer? Back in Joseph Smith's day he would not have had any idea about particles. No mention of them in the BoM. No mention of quantum physics. Then along comes science and discovers these properties of the universe. Suddenly God takes on the role of being behind those properties. In fact, each time we discover some deeper fact about how the universe works you have to move God one step backward in the process. In Smith's day it would have been acceptable for an educated man to say that God keeps the planets moving and has a hand in every day life. Today we know so much more about that stuff that it makes no sense to say that. God has been pushed back to an even more remote position, always occupying that space of knowledge where humans have not yet penetrated.

The term for that is God of the Gaps. You put God into the unknown spaces. Those areas of the map that say "here be monsters".
I don't think God has to play a hand in day to day physics. I think God put these things in place and set laws that they obey, like instinct for example, or gravitational pull.

I see your point of view, I just can't agree that the complexities that we now are able to find prove that God doesn't exist. I see it the opposite. I don't think it could have happened by chance.

Since: Aug 10

Location hidden

#97609 Mar 28, 2013
ChromiuMan wrote:
<quoted text>It sounded awfully high to me, too. I'd typed 'How many Americans have been in prison' in Google. WikiAnswers short description came back 63%. When I just now went back and clicked the link, it comes back 3%. That answer doesn't sound correct, either - not for the percentage of living people in the country who are or have ever been incarcerated.

Reuters, 2006:
A U.S. Justice Department report released on November 30 showed that a record 7 million people -- or one in every 32 American adults -- were behind bars, on probation or on parole at the end of last year. Of the total, 2.2 million were in prison or jail.

According to the International Centre for Prison Studies at King's College in London, more people are behind bars in the United States than in any other country. China ranks second with 1.5 million prisoners, followed by Russia with 870,000.

The U.S. incarceration rate of 737 per 100,000 people in the highest, followed by 611 in Russia and 547 for St. Kitts and Nevis. In contrast, the incarceration rates in many Western industrial nations range around 100 per 100,000 people.

Groups advocating reform of U.S. sentencing laws seized on the latest U.S. prison population figures showing admissions of inmates have been rising even faster than the numbers of prisoners who have been released.

"The United States has 5 percent of the world's population and 25 percent of the world's incarcerated population. We rank first in the world in locking up our fellow citizens," said Ethan Nadelmann of the Drug Policy Alliance, which supports alternatives in the war on drugs.
It's just sad that it's that high. Geez

Since: Aug 10

Location hidden

#97610 Mar 28, 2013
-NEPHILIM- wrote:
<quoted text>I have one child but that sure doesn't mean I had sex one time with on woman. I'm not gay, it was never a choice for me either but I am a big fan of oral and anal so even tho they can't create a child, they are capable of satisfying each other sexually. Gratification to me is way more important than procreating.

I think not letting gays get married makes it seem like those that can are better people than those that aren't allowed. That's my opinion on it anyways. Since most religions think gay is a choice, was it a choice for you? Could you be gay for a month to try it out and see if you liked it? I couldn't so I believe they were born that way, or on the religious side, God made them that way.
I don't think it's choice. I think it has a lot to do with what you are exposed to. A product of experiences and surroundings. These things shape how we think and we don't notice it.

Gratification like you suggest could be had with animals, vacuum cleaners, apple pie, the list goes on. Just because it fits doesn't mean you should stick it in there.

Since: Aug 10

Location hidden

#97611 Mar 28, 2013
-NEPHILIM- wrote:
<quoted text>I think this is a perfect example of picking and choosing what people want to out of the bible. If the OT says taking more than one wife is ok then you should stone children and own slaves as well. Do you guys still practice the old law or do you believe it was done away with when Jesus popped into the scene?

I've always felt sorry for the Mormon kids that knocked on my door. I knew what it was like to get doors slammed in my face so they were always welcomed in, offered anything in the kitchen and could sit around and cool off/warm up or whatever. I found it interesting how they thought they would end up in one of the higher levels of heaven. They would explain it like taking an exam at school. If I didn't study and they did then they deserve a better grade than me.

How long is their door to door work required, is it two years and then they're done with the bike rides? Whats up with the red ties, is that a requirement as well?
The harsher laws you speak of in the OT were because the people at the time had proved that they could not live the higher laws. Jesus fulfilled the laws of Moses.

Red ties are not required. Just common. White shirt and dress pants are required. Clean haircut and no facial hair is required as well. It's all about being presentable and respectable. 2 years for males, 18 months for females. Usually between the ages of 18 and 25, and couples can serve missions once older. And bikes are only required in certain areas. Cars are common in many places, but they limit miles.

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