Bible study rules for public schools proposed

Feb 10, 2010 Full story: The Courier-Journal 131,867

FRANKFORT, Ky. - The state would create rules for teaching about the Bible in public high schools under a bill filed Monday by three Democratic senators.

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#97347 Mar 26, 2013
Yiago wrote:
<quoted text>I can think of a few reasons.

1) We know it was written by Joseph Smith. There is no reason or evidence to suggest it came from any other source.

2) Scripture does not mean fact. There is no reason to assume anything the Bible says is true. To operate from the view that it is true means you start with your answer and rationalize your way from there. And that is not how we do history, science, or any other truth seeking endeavor.
Both 1 and 2 involve faith. I fully admit that. I have said before I believe that's one of the main reasons we are on this earth, to have our faith tested. With proof, there is no room for faith.

How about this: for those that have faith in God, and believe the Bible to be the word of God, why can't there be other records from other groups of people that Jesus visited when He told us he was leaving to tend to other sheep?

And as for 1. That was the purpose of the witnesses of the Book of Mormon. If you read the testimonies of the people that wrote what they saw, they did so to say that they saw and handled the gold plates and witnessed the angel Moroni that brought it forth.

Again I realize faith is required because one could argue that these men were all in cahoots. Though it isn't plausible to me that these men would risk their lives to do all of this, lose everything they had and still die poor.
Some of them even got mad at Joseph at some point and turned away from him but never denounced the BOM and what they said they witnessed.

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#97348 Mar 26, 2013
Wrong again Sparky wrote:
<quoted text>I'm writing them!
He showed up and saved me!
Me too, but I think He meant a more literal presence.

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#97349 Mar 26, 2013
Yes and Amen wrote:
<quoted text> http://www.exmormon.org/stories.htm

also type in "ex-mormons becoming Christians"
into your search engine!
How is that a response to my comment?

You don't think I went through all this before I converted?

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#97350 Mar 26, 2013
Yes and Amen wrote:
<quoted text>Great post!
When my Dad converted from mormonism....
He received the Lord with such happiness, and tears!
He was ashamed of his time with the Mormons, and repented
everyday!
I was glad to help him find Jesus!
My catholic friend, when he converted said...
"I never heard God's voice before in the catholic church..."
I thank Jesus that their eyes were opened!
Amen!
I had a similar experience when joining the LDS church and leaving my old one behind.

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#97351 Mar 26, 2013
Satanic Priest wrote:
<quoted text>Just so you get it right Satan is God and the Lord and jehovah is the devil
What drives you to that conclusion if I may ask?

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#97352 Mar 26, 2013
LOL in a suit wrote:
To maintain a religie, the church just feeds it bull excrement and keeps it in the dark kinda like a theological fungus.
How old are you?

“There is no god.”

Since: Jan 12

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#97353 Mar 26, 2013
do whut wrote:
<quoted text>
How old are you?
Lol, good one, religies never let ya down.
You looking for an alter boy? Lmao, that was a good one also.

“See how you are?”

Since: Jul 12

Earth

#97354 Mar 26, 2013
WTF wrote:
<quoted text> what the heck is wrong with people these days? this country was built on IN GOD WE TRUST. hello? are u all nuts, or what? seriously, wtf. without the knowledge of the power of GOD we will not prosper. thanks for being one of those who suck and will send this country straight to hell. yes, hell's a real place, as so is heaven.
No. It wasn't built on "In God We Trust." That was a kneejerk that came later. WTF? Did you flunk out of American History 102?

“See how you are?”

Since: Jul 12

Earth

#97355 Mar 26, 2013
WTF wrote:
<quoted text>hey cro?! i can absolutely tell u I HAVE TRIED ALL OF THEM and also GOD/JESUS/HOLY SPIRIT. and the chick is correct. only GOD IS THE HIGH OF ALL HIGHS. and yes, i can also prove it medically of every single type of drug there is, i have done. so poop on u. GOD -there is no high like the highest of all highs. and than is ^GOD^
You say that I've tried all of them (drugs)?
Why is it that I CONSTANTLY have to tell Christians not to bear false witness? Is it because they think all they have to do is say "I'm sorry. Forgive me." and their sins are POOF! All Gone.
?

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Earth

#97356 Mar 26, 2013
happy wrote:
<quoted text>
Chro when you KNOW JESUS no drug could ever compare. You are on a natural high. U should try Him. AMAZING
I'm well familiar with your emotionally charged thought processes.
I understand a little more about Jesus than you think I do, and I know a lot more about a lot of things than you seem to.

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Since: Jul 12

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#97357 Mar 26, 2013
WTF wrote:
<quoted text>hey cro?! i can absolutely tell u I HAVE TRIED ALL OF THEM and also GOD/JESUS/HOLY SPIRIT. and the chick is correct. only GOD IS THE HIGH OF ALL HIGHS. and yes, i can also prove it medically of every single type of drug there is, i have done. so poop on u. GOD -there is no high like the highest of all highs. and than is ^GOD^
Oh, sorry. i thought u said U thought i'D tried all of tHem. u R you sing BaBytalK weird use of KEYboard no caps ALL CAPS jive threw me off. L8r

“There is no god”

Since: Jul 12

War, WV

#97358 Mar 26, 2013
WTF wrote:
<quoted text> what the heck is wrong with people these days? this country was built on IN GOD WE TRUST. hello? are u all nuts, or what? seriously, wtf. without the knowledge of the power of GOD we will not prosper. thanks for being one of those who suck and will send this country straight to hell. yes, hell's a real place, as so is heaven.
Nope, sorry but "in god we trust" was added to money over a century after this country was founde.
In fact our forefathers where AGAINST the christian cult.
Nice try with your lie

“There is no god”

Since: Jul 12

War, WV

#97359 Mar 26, 2013
happy wrote:
<quoted text>
U get funnier and funnier. But the scripture does say and I'm paraphrasing,(I gave the actual verse on this post somewhere) that if you don't KNOW the FATHER YOU WILL NOT UNDERSTAND the SCRIPTURES.. I guess that's the why behind you sounding so CRAZY! Lol. Well , maybe
Psalm 137:9

King James Version (KJV)


9 Happy shall he be, that taketh and dasheth thy little ones against the stones.
That is plain to see
When a man sells his daughter as a slave, she will not be freed at the end of six years as the men are. If she does not please the man who bought her, he may allow her to be bought back again. But he is not allowed to sell her to foreigners, since he is the one who broke the contract with her. And if the slave girl's owner arranges for her to marry his son, he may no longer treat her as a slave girl, but he must treat her as his daughter. If he himself marries her and then takes another wife, he may not reduce her food or clothing or fail to sleep with her as his wife. If he fails in any of these three ways, she may leave as a free woman without making any payment.(Exodus 21:7-11 NLT)
Do you have trouble understanding this one?
Leviticus 1 (New International Version)

The Burnt Offering

1 The LORD called to Moses and spoke to him from the Tent of Meeting. He said, 2 “Speak to the Israelites and say to them:‘When any of you brings an offering to the LORD, bring as your offering an animal from either the herd or the flock.
3 ”‘If the offering is a burnt offering from the herd, he is to offer a male without defect. He must present it at the entrance to the Tent of Meeting so that it will be acceptable to the LORD. 4 He is to lay his hand on the head of the burnt offering, and it will be accepted on his behalf to make atonement for him. 5 He is to slaughter the young bull before the LORD, and then Aaron’s sons the priests shall bring the blood and sprinkle it against the altar on all sides at the entrance to the Tent of Meeting. 6 He is to skin the burnt offering and cut it into pieces. 7 The sons of Aaron the priest are to put fire on the altar and arrange wood on the fire. 8 Then Aaron’s sons the priests shall arrange the pieces, including the head and the fat, on the burning wood that is on the altar. 9 He is to wash the inner parts and the legs with water, and the priest is to burn all of it on the altar. It is a burnt offering, an offering made by fire, an aroma pleasing to the LORD.

10 ”‘If the offering is a burnt offering from the flock, from either the sheep or the goats, he is to offer a male without defect. 11 He is to slaughter it at the north side of the altar before the LORD, and Aaron’s sons the priests shall sprinkle its blood against the altar on all sides. 12 He is to cut it into pieces, and the priest shall arrange them, including the head and the fat, on the burning wood that is on the altar. 13 He is to wash the inner parts and the legs with water, and the priest is to bring all of it and burn it on the altar. It is a burnt offering, an offering made by fire, an aroma pleasing to the LORD.

14 ”‘If the offering to the LORD is a burnt offering of birds, he is to offer a dove or a young pigeon. 15 The priest shall bring it to the altar, wring off the head and burn it on the altar; its blood shall be drained out on the side of the altar. 16 He is to remove the crop with its contents and throw it to the east side of the altar, where the ashes are. 17 He shall tear it open by the wings, not severing it completely, and then the priest shall burn it on the wood that is on the fire on the altar. It is a burnt offering, an offering made by fire, an aroma pleasing to the LORD.
Spin this!

“There is no god”

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#97360 Mar 26, 2013
happy wrote:
<quoted text>
I guess you don't understand my answer
You have never given an answer, you dodge questions make vague unrelated comments and say "its in the bible" But you never answer a question. I think it is because you know that the bible is not real

“There is no god”

Since: Jul 12

War, WV

#97361 Mar 26, 2013
I do not understand how any rational modern person who can read would believe in a god some desert goat herders in the middle east made up a few thousand years ago.
The fundies here act like the christian cult is an American religion. News flash, you are a part of a religion made up in the middle east, just like musims
TruthIs

London, KY

#97362 Mar 26, 2013
Carchar king wrote:
Bible is the world's best book in the world in my opinion. You can't change my opinion, eh, deranged little Atheists
Kind of pathetic to watch some of 'em squirm in their own derangement sometimes (not all, because any RATIONAL, logocal SANE person would realize, not ALL atheists are patheTic) isn't it.
Just wish the (same) wouldn't spread their plague of blackened misery onto others!!
happy

United States

#97363 Mar 26, 2013
ChromiuMan wrote:
<quoted text>I'm well familiar with your emotionally charged thought processes.
I understand a little more about Jesus than you think I do, and I know a lot more about a lot of things than you seem to.
Well I'm happy for you. Light is far better than darkness.
TruthIs

London, KY

#97364 Mar 26, 2013
Satanic Priest wrote:
<quoted text>You tell them. Damed christian cult always condemning us good Satanist, always trying to bully us and burn us alive.
Good telling them evil christians!
It's a personal "Constitutional freedom OF" thing... NOT an ego tripping, power questing "control-freakish" thing, no matter which denominational rail post, or fence side, anyone sits upon.

'Cause I don't believe ALL "Christians" are "evil" either...because in MY opinion, to think such would be representative of T-total ignorance.
Kinda like nothing more than low level, animalisTic "herd pack" MENTALity.
That's the kind of stuff that a lot of the darker moments of many of the "histronics and hysteria" times of history are comprised of.

Did you know...before Science correctly identified tuberculosis, people used to think that people afflicted with it were possessed by vampires?
Unbelievable what (non) remedies were practiced in efforts to "cure" the afflicted of such,(non)cures that often just made the spread of the disease even worse.
Classic example of "ignorance 101"...tuberculosis (aka "consumption")in the 1700's.
TruthIs

London, KY

#97366 Mar 26, 2013
ChromiuMan wrote:
<quoted text>
Like Oxy or like the side effects of the other latest and greatest drugs? "If you show symptoms of a heart attack dial 911 right away and if you experience thoughts of suicide you might want to discontinue use." I was trying to find a decent station while travelling last week and scanned past an xtian station - there was a commercial "save up to $500 on Viagra." Be fruitful and multiply?
Like ANY sector doesn't weaken under the delusions of dolluhs makes everything just perfectee.
Why, let's look at PolTICS, for the perfectee example of some of THAT kinda stuff.

Now get your dolluh dangling fishing pole outer muh face lol.
TruthIs

London, KY

#97367 Mar 26, 2013
ChromiuMan wrote:
<quoted text>
Like Oxy or like the side effects of the other latest and greatest drugs? "If you show symptoms of a heart attack dial 911 right away and if you experience thoughts of suicide you might want to discontinue use." I was trying to find a decent station while travelling last week and scanned past an xtian station - there was a commercial "save up to $500 on Viagra." Be fruitful and multiply?
but if you're saying people were often better off with just plain old aspirin and some common, realistic horse sense sometimes, than what the choices they have thrown in their faces now a days by the consumptive, coniving, care-less-at-times market sof big pharma carnical barkers and snake oil hawkers, I would (ugh) have to agree with you..a little anyway.

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