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Bible study rules for public schools proposed

There are 153864 comments on the The Courier-Journal story from Feb 10, 2010, titled Bible study rules for public schools proposed. In it, The Courier-Journal reports that:

FRANKFORT, Ky. - The state would create rules for teaching about the Bible in public high schools under a bill filed Monday by three Democratic senators.

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“I Am No One Else”

Since: Apr 12

Seattle

#96935 Mar 22, 2013
Known Fact wrote:
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I for one believe the Bible is indeed the inspired word of God, but I agree with you the public school system is not the place to teach the Bible. Nor is it a place to teach Religion including the THEORY of evolution. I think evolution should be stricken from the public school system and school books.
The Bible and Religion should be taught at home! Or at the religious gathering.
So you disagree with teaching children facts and science. Look, I know you think that being an idiot is good, but why do you want to force children to be idiots like you?

“There is no god.”

Since: Jan 12

USA

#96936 Mar 22, 2013
KittenKoder wrote:
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So where's the evidence that your particular god is real?
Why ask for something that does not exist.

“There is no god.”

Since: Jan 12

USA

#96937 Mar 22, 2013
Leaving the Light On wrote:
Proverbs 22:6
King James Version (KJV)
6 Train up a child in the way he should go: and when he is old, he will not depart from it.
Bible In Schools and Homes.
Deuteronomy 6:7
King James Version (KJV)
7 And thou shalt teach them diligently unto thy children, and shalt talk of them when thou sittest in thine house, and when thou walkest by the way, and when thou liest down, and when thou risest up.
Ahhhh, indoctrinate, iran does that to children also.

“I Am No One Else”

Since: Apr 12

Seattle

#96938 Mar 22, 2013
LOL in a suit wrote:
<quoted text>Why ask for something that does not exist.
Because I wish some evidence of some after life did exist.

“There is no god.”

Since: Jan 12

USA

#96939 Mar 22, 2013
KittenKoder wrote:
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So you disagree with teaching children facts and science. Look, I know you think that being an idiot is good, but why do you want to force children to be idiots like you?
Grreeeaaat post.

“There is no god.”

Since: Jan 12

USA

#96940 Mar 22, 2013
KittenKoder wrote:
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Because I wish some evidence of some after life did exist.
Good luck, none exists.
Known Fact

Cape Canaveral, FL

#96941 Mar 22, 2013
do whut wrote:
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As I've said, Christ said that there would be a falling away from His church before His return. An apostasy. He also said He had other sheep not of their fold to tend to. Could those other people not write what they witnessed when He visited?
You have a destorted view of the other sheep. WHO REALLY ARE THE OTHER SHEEP? Actually there are two groups of righteous people!
When I went to school it was told to me that you can get to the bottom of any subject (Police use it all of the time) if you can answer the who,what,when, where,how and why, about any matter you can solve it. So why dont we do that with the two groups of righteous people. There are two groups as indicated by Jesus at Matthew 5:3 says the kingdom of heaven belongs to them." That is one group. and 5:5 refers to the other group when it says, "Blessed are the meek for thay shall inherit the earth". The first group are referred to again at Luke 12:32 “Have no fear, little flock, because YOUR Father has approved of giving YOU the kingdom.
The other group is referred to at John 10:16 “And I have other sheep, which are not of this fold; those also I must bring, and they will listen to my voice, and they will become one flock, one shepherd.(This second group could not possible be the American Indians.)
Both groups have the one shepherd (Jesus) and are one flock. The major difference is one group goes to heaven to rule with Jesus Rev.5:10 and the orher group will inherit the earth. Pslam 37:29
The major difference is they have two different inheritances, one is Heavenly rulership, and the other is earthly inheritance.
Now if we can use the above system to help us to identify each group. It's late and I'm tired I'll have to pick this up at another time.
Have a goodnight,
"Known Fact"
Known Fact

Cape Canaveral, FL

#96942 Mar 22, 2013
KittenKoder wrote:
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So you disagree with teaching children facts and science. Look, I know you think that being an idiot is good, but why do you want to force children to be idiots like you?
There are two different ideas of what makes an idot! One is not the belief in scientific fact which is entirely different from the idiotic idea of some evolution THEORY WITH ABSOLUTELY NO EVIDENCE TO SUPPORT IT! Now who is the idiot?
happy

Louisville, KY

#96943 Mar 22, 2013
KittenKoder wrote:
<quoted text>So you have no evidence for any of your assertions. You just answered a request for evidence with just another assertion.
The Intersection of Science and Faith
Dr. Craig Hazen

The Case for a Creator
Dr. Lee Strobel

Darwin or Design
Paul A Nelson

How the Universe Points Toward a Creator
Dr. John Bloom

Why Historians Take the Gospel Serious
Dr. John Dickson

Top ten reasons we know the New Testament is true
Dr. Frank Turek

The Reliability of the New Testament
Sean McDowell

“Question, Explore, Discover”

Since: Dec 11

Location hidden

#96944 Mar 22, 2013
Known Fact wrote:
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Romans 1:20-22 20 For his (God's) invisible [qualities] are clearly seen from the world’s creation onward, because they are perceived by the things made, even his eternal power and Godship, so that they are inexcusable;
I have come to the same conclusion as the Apostle Paul.
Common sense will tell you anything left to it's own will deterioate instead of evolve.
Jehovah's Witnesses published a book "LIFE - How Did It Get Here? By Evolution Or By Creation?" You would do well to obtain a copy of that book (it is free) because it has been thoroughly researched on both sides of the issue. If after examining that book if you are not convienced that we were created then there is nothing I can say that will change your mind.
As you said to each his own.
This is why it is impossible to take you seriously. I'm aware of the book you mentioned. I don't know if you realize it or not, but that book is an absolute joke outside the Watchtower circles. By "thoroughly researched" you can only mean it was ripped to shreds a million times by scientists and skeptics and people who still have enough brain cells to rub together to recognize garbage when they see it.

I don't understand how you could possibly think that book is respected outside your church. I'm not even a scientist and I can tell you it is complete nonsense.

You would do better to simply have your faith and stop trying to paint it as rational. It is not rational, nor is it supported by evidence. But the last time I checked evidence was not an element of faith to begin with.

“Question, Explore, Discover”

Since: Dec 11

Location hidden

#96945 Mar 22, 2013
happy wrote:
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The Intersection of Science and Faith
Dr. Craig Hazen
The Case for a Creator
Dr. Lee Strobel
Darwin or Design
Paul A Nelson
How the Universe Points Toward a Creator
Dr. John Bloom
Why Historians Take the Gospel Serious
Dr. John Dickson
Top ten reasons we know the New Testament is true
Dr. Frank Turek
The Reliability of the New Testament
Sean McDowell
A who's who of crazy. I love how the Creationist Clowns love to put "Dr" in front of their names. Lee Strobel is a journalist. He got an honorary doctorate from a Christian school. So when he is presented as "Dr" Lee Strobel it sounds like he has real academic credentials. But nobody - and I mean NOBODY - takes this guy seriously outside the nuttiest of nutterburg.
aReader

United States

#96946 Mar 22, 2013
happy wrote:
<quoted text>
The Intersection of Science and Faith
Dr. Craig Hazen
The Case for a Creator
Dr. Lee Strobel
Darwin or Design
Paul A Nelson
How the Universe Points Toward a Creator
Dr. John Bloom
Why Historians Take the Gospel Serious
Dr. John Dickson
Top ten reasons we know the New Testament is true
Dr. Frank Turek
The Reliability of the New Testament
Sean McDowell
"Books,not Bombs"

Listen to the Wind: The Story of Dr. Greg & Three Cups of Tea

Age Range: 6 - 8 years
Hardcover: 32 pages
Publisher: Dial; First edition (January 22, 2009)
Language: English

“I Am No One Else”

Since: Apr 12

Seattle

#96947 Mar 22, 2013
Known Fact wrote:
<quoted text>
There are two different ideas of what makes an idot! One is not the belief in scientific fact which is entirely different from the idiotic idea of some evolution THEORY WITH ABSOLUTELY NO EVIDENCE TO SUPPORT IT! Now who is the idiot?
Well, us "idiots" who understand how science works make it possible for you idiots to even live now.

“I Am No One Else”

Since: Apr 12

Seattle

#96948 Mar 22, 2013
happy wrote:
<quoted text>
The Intersection of Science and Faith
Dr. Craig Hazen
The Case for a Creator
Dr. Lee Strobel
Darwin or Design
Paul A Nelson
How the Universe Points Toward a Creator
Dr. John Bloom
Why Historians Take the Gospel Serious
Dr. John Dickson
Top ten reasons we know the New Testament is true
Dr. Frank Turek
The Reliability of the New Testament
Sean McDowell
I asked for evidence, not more assertions. You have provided no evidence to your first assertion yet.

“In God we trust”

Since: Dec 12

Cape Town, South Africa

#96949 Mar 22, 2013
LOL in a suit wrote:
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Good luck, none exists.
There's plenty of evidence, you just don't bother to look it up.

“I Am No One Else”

Since: Apr 12

Seattle

#96950 Mar 22, 2013
Carchar king wrote:
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There's plenty of evidence, you just don't bother to look it up.
Where is this evidence?

“I'm Hillary's Deplorable”

Since: Dec 08

Home, sweet home.

#96951 Mar 23, 2013
Bible study rules because children need to learn morality as well as they need to learn the facts of life.

“I Am No One Else”

Since: Apr 12

Seattle

#96952 Mar 23, 2013
Brian_G wrote:
Bible study rules because children need to learn morality as well as they need to learn the facts of life.
Yep, the bible is a great example of how not to act.

“Question, Explore, Discover”

Since: Dec 11

Location hidden

#96953 Mar 23, 2013
If you use the Bible as a moral authority how do you decide which stories are teaching good morals and which are not? Obviously this is one of reasons we have so many different churches. Nobody can agree.

If the Bible was a clearly written, unified source of moral authority then we could easily figure out how to behave using the book and we wouldn't argue about it.

Yet what you really find are stories in which God tells his people to kill babies, stories about obeying your masters to the death, lessons on how to treat your slaves, condemnations of homosexuals, witches, and a general disdain for women.

Hidden in all that garbage are a few decent lines about being a good person. Even the beloved sermon on the mount includes language that is not morally sound, as well as a ton of contradictions.

(Iron Chariots Wiki has an excellent smackdown of the sermon on the mount: http://wiki.ironchariots.org/index.php... )

When you have a huge book full of varying ideas and you give them book moral authority you have created a way in which people can be subjugated. Then a charismatic leader will come along and dumb people will flock to him and you end up with with Jonestown, Westboro, or the Berean Baptist Church in Fayetteville, NC:

http://boingboing.net/2012/05/04/pastor-sean-...

Yeah. Its a great idea to give a**holes that that guy a book and call it divine moral authority.

“I'm Hillary's Deplorable”

Since: Dec 08

Home, sweet home.

#96954 Mar 23, 2013
Our new Pope chose the namesake of his order, "Saint Francis of Assisi, the 13th century Catholic friar and preacher who founded the beggar-monk movement through his Franciscan order. He emphasized a life of asceticism and humility, and created a powerful voice for the poor the church couldn't ignore."
http://www.spiegel.de/international/zeitgeist...

Same sex marriage is the opposite of the Franciscan ideal; hedonism over asceticism and lust for political power redefining marriage for everyone over humility.

Same sex marriage is wrong because its too much to ask and a violation of taboo.

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