Bible study rules for public schools ...

Bible study rules for public schools proposed

There are 156587 comments on the The Courier-Journal story from Feb 10, 2010, titled Bible study rules for public schools proposed. In it, The Courier-Journal reports that:

FRANKFORT, Ky. - The state would create rules for teaching about the Bible in public high schools under a bill filed Monday by three Democratic senators.

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Pikeville, KY

#96792 Mar 21, 2013
i get a laugh out of john 3:13 myself. jesus himself said no one has ever ascended in to heaven except he that came from heaven. but i do have a good question about it...i wonder why jesus never knew of enoch or elijah. the OT states that god took them both up to heaven. kinda funny your prophet and the son of god didnt even know what the old testament had already claimed of those 2 guys. honestly, how can u all really believe such stupidity that is written all through the bible? the divine inspiration cant even match its own stories up from one testament to the other. do any of u know what the bible says of false prophets? and dont any of u all see just how false jesus' prophecies have came to be? u all really should ask yourselves some real questions about your beliefs instead of just believing blindly. if u are gullible about one thing u are gullible about any is what ive always heard so u might wanna watch out about what ppl u allow in to your lives b4 u get taken for everything u got.

“In God we trust”

Since: Dec 12

Cape Town, South Africa

#96793 Mar 21, 2013
what wrote:
and i challenge any single christian here to tell me the scripture that says u will go to heaven. im not sayin a scripture that says u will be saved becuz saved does not mean heaven no matter how hard u try to make it be. not one single verse in the bible says we can go to heaven but on the flip side there are many that says no man shall ever enter the gates of heaven. so when u find the scripture that says we are gonna go to heaven let me know which one it is cuz id like to read it myself.
Let me be first, Jews don't believe that Jesus was born yet, but as long as they stick to the laws of the Bible, there's a very Good chance they'll make into heaven. If you're a Christian and you have accepted Jesus into your life, you will be guaranteed into the Gates of Heaven. I don't know about Catholics but certainly if your any other religion and stick to the wrong laws, you won't make it into heaven.

“In God we trust”

Since: Dec 12

Cape Town, South Africa

#96794 Mar 21, 2013
what wrote:
i get a laugh out of john 3:13 myself. jesus himself said no one has ever ascended in to heaven except he that came from heaven. but i do have a good question about it...i wonder why jesus never knew of enoch or elijah. the OT states that god took them both up to heaven. kinda funny your prophet and the son of god didnt even know what the old testament had already claimed of those 2 guys. honestly, how can u all really believe such stupidity that is written all through the bible? the divine inspiration cant even match its own stories up from one testament to the other. do any of u know what the bible says of false prophets? and dont any of u all see just how false jesus' prophecies have came to be? u all really should ask yourselves some real questions about your beliefs instead of just believing blindly. if u are gullible about one thing u are gullible about any is what ive always heard so u might wanna watch out about what ppl u allow in to your lives b4 u get taken for everything u got.
I haven't read the whole Bible, but looks like you seem to notice everything?
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Pikeville, KY

#96795 Mar 21, 2013
Carchar king wrote:
<quoted text>
Let me be first, Jews don't believe that Jesus was born yet, but as long as they stick to the laws of the Bible, there's a very Good chance they'll make into heaven. If you're a Christian and you have accepted Jesus into your life, you will be guaranteed into the Gates of Heaven. I don't know about Catholics but certainly if your any other religion and stick to the wrong laws, you won't make it into heaven.
i still dont see the verse that says u will make it to heaven. u cant just say u are goin to go to heaven u know. tell me the verse and then we can talk cuz from what u just said here u dont know that much about it all. if the new testament is real then the jews will not have any chance at all if they are living right becuz just to be saved u have to accept jesus as the savior and the jews do not do that. the bible does not say good deeds get u in to heaven, it says u have to accept jesus first and foremost if u are a believer of the new testament. u could be the best morally sound person to ever live but if u say u dont believe in jesus then guess what, u my friend shall be tortured for eternity, no matter what deeds u did on earth.
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Pikeville, KY

#96796 Mar 21, 2013
Carchar king wrote:
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I haven't read the whole Bible, but looks like you seem to notice everything?
if u havent read it all i reccomend u do. once u are done just drop by and tell us about how it inspired u to not believe it. the problem is most ppl that believe dont even know what they are required to do to get in to heaven but i actually wanted to be a preacher at one time but then i did the worst thing i could possible do....i read the bible. almost instantly became atheist, i did make it almost to the new testament b4 i completely let go of my invisible friend in heaven for a more concrete and factual belief system.
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Nicholasville, KY

#96797 Mar 21, 2013
what wrote:
<quoted text>
well why are u not killin ppl workin on the sabboth or killin the gay ppl? why do u ignore these commandments of the Father? are u so in tune with them that u can just choose which ones u want to use and which ones u can say well jesus done away with those? its either all or none whether u like it or not and if its not all then u my friend are a hypocrit and u shall join us heathens in hell. if u beat me there save me a spot and vice versa.
Will you SHOW me the Commandment that tells us to KILL? Is it 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, or 10? MY Bible tells me, "Thou Shalt Not Kill".(Exodus, Chapter 20)
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Nicholasville, KY

#96798 Mar 21, 2013
what wrote:
<quoted text>
i still dont see the verse that says u will make it to heaven. u cant just say u are goin to go to heaven u know. tell me the verse and then we can talk cuz from what u just said here u dont know that much about it all. if the new testament is real then the jews will not have any chance at all if they are living right becuz just to be saved u have to accept jesus as the savior and the jews do not do that. the bible does not say good deeds get u in to heaven, it says u have to accept jesus first and foremost if u are a believer of the new testament. u could be the best morally sound person to ever live but if u say u dont believe in jesus then guess what, u my friend shall be tortured for eternity, no matter what deeds u did on earth.
Luke 13:29
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Pikeville, KY

#96799 Mar 21, 2013
there are alot more than 10 laws god gives u in the old testament....go open your bible sometime and u might see them. if u wanna act like they arent in there cuz u wanna live a life of sin u just do that. u are gonna regret it in the end when u see i am right and u are wrong. a little of the same tactics u all use here, if u dont u will go to hell...lol and since u mention exodus 20, just scan on over to verse 13 and then tell me what it says u are to do in it...in fact just read all the way thru chapter 20-23 and take note of how many times god himself tells us to put someone to death (kill). its bad that u quote your book and chapter and the very verse that says to kill is in the same chapter as the verse that says that shall not kill....cant u see the stupidity of it all yet?
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Pikeville, KY

#96800 Mar 21, 2013
oh yea, read deuteronomy and leviticus as well cuz they have some nice things about killing as well. ill be waiting for u to spin some BS out of it on how we dont live by those old laws even tho u yourself say we do by quoting exodus. make up your mind, are we in the old law or the new cuz one way or the other u cant have the good out of the old and leave the bad out if the good still counts for anything.
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Pikeville, KY

#96801 Mar 21, 2013
PREVIOUS PATIENT AT KDMC wrote:
<quoted text>
Luke 13:29
kingdom of god does not equal heaven just as being saved does not equal heaven. the fact is only 144,000 jews are goin to heaven and unless u are a jew then u are not allowed in to that elite club formed by your racist god. do u really not know anything about the scriptures?
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Nicholasville, KY

#96803 Mar 21, 2013
Has ANYONE read the full story of this discussion & not just the TITLE? Well I hadn't! Just did! I'm ashamed of myself for joining a discussion I didn't know the FULL extent of! This Topic has become a trash slinging, rude, disrespectful, name calling discussion! The full story behind this discussion is offering an Elective Course of Bible Study to High School students in KY Public Schools! The State is not trying to ENFORCE Christianity or the Bible on ANY child! The Topic IS NOT who is Right or Wrong, just giving the STUDENTS the right to CHOOSE for themselves. I personally, see nothing wrong with giving the students the RIGHT to make their OWN CHOICE! That's why it is called an Elective Course, not FORCED. I see only one good thing with my participation in this discussion, I got to SHARE MY GODLY Morals & Values with you. So, I respectfully thank you for listening & responding to my comments & I now bow out graciously. And for those who may doubt my CHRISTIANITY, yes, I strive daily to be more Christ like!, and IF I DO FALL, I do repent & ask forgiveness & MY GOD is Just to FORGIVE! May God Bless ALL & Shine His Face Upon You!!!
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Pikeville, KY

#96804 Mar 22, 2013
guess u dont have the verse for me so u got to run now. ill just tell u real quick tho, it is not possible for anyone that isnt a jew to get to heaven then its like a lottery if u are a jew. im sorry u got to go but best of wishes to u and yours, i dont try to make enemies here, just try to show u things u prob dont know cuz no smart preacher would ever point this out to u cuz it would cut in to his profits. but if u have questions or can find an answer to any i have asked on this forum just drop a line here cuz unlike one side of this conversation, the side im talkin for does give real answers that arent twisted, require special circumstances or require anyone to accept something as truth when in reality it just is absurd. i do encourage u to atleast question your preacher on things, like when he says we will be in heaven ask him to show u the scripture cuz i will bet u he cant either. so if your church preaches u will go to heaven u should at the least look for a new church that does teach what the bible actually says instead of one that just boosts your feel good emotions so that u feel even better givin that money to them at the end of service. nothing is worse than reading plain black and white then havin someone say, well it says that but let me tell u what it really means....lol...if u can read then u dont need someone else to explain what something means to u, read it and if u dont know a word look it up and then u will have what it means. it cant say do not kill then turn around say kill this and this and this and then turn around again and say if u kill u will go to hell but if u dont follow my laws u go to hell. the bible is one of those special books that gives power to anyone for anything they want to use it for. thats why every thing u could imagine that is horrible prob has a loop hole for it in the bible. the translators werent stupid, they made a book that has given them power and wealth for centuries while the ppl that want it to be true suffer and go hungry becuz they wrote that the righteous will suffer and get crucifed and all that so it keep us poor from gathering force and tellin the rich its time for a change and if u dont want it to change we will just kill u and change it ourselves becuz if we kill we go to hell unless ofcourse it is gays, or mean kids, or ppl that work on the sabboth, or everyone of the enemy, including kids, except the virgin girls which we get to keep for ourselves to toy with, or anyone in general as long as it dont impose on those few rich and religious ppl that control the world now. maybe when religion dies humans will finally get equal rights and treatment and no one will have billions of dollars in the bank while children starve and die. i just love the christians that are rich that think they have a chance to live forever....how can they explain havin all that money to god and being greedy when they know ppl are starving everyday. they are def moral arent they? biggest oxymoron every, republican christian...lol...it just is not possible
haha

Hyden, KY

#96806 Mar 22, 2013
PREVIOUS PATIENT AT KDMC wrote:
Has ANYONE read the full story of this discussion & not just the TITLE? Well I hadn't! Just did! I'm ashamed of myself for joining a discussion I didn't know the FULL extent of! This Topic has become a trash slinging, rude, disrespectful, name calling discussion! The full story behind this discussion is offering an Elective Course of Bible Study to High School students in KY Public Schools! The State is not trying to ENFORCE Christianity or the Bible on ANY child! The Topic IS NOT who is Right or Wrong, just giving the STUDENTS the right to CHOOSE for themselves. I personally, see nothing wrong with giving the students the RIGHT to make their OWN CHOICE! That's why it is called an Elective Course, not FORCED. I see only one good thing with my participation in this discussion, I got to SHARE MY GODLY Morals & Values with you. So, I respectfully thank you for listening & responding to my comments & I now bow out graciously. And for those who may doubt my CHRISTIANITY, yes, I strive daily to be more Christ like!, and IF I DO FALL, I do repent & ask forgiveness & MY GOD is Just to FORGIVE! May God Bless ALL & Shine His Face Upon You!!!
Giving students a right to choose... By offering a class on one religion and not the rest.
Yes and Amen

Richmond, KY

#96807 Mar 22, 2013
do whut wrote:
<quoted text>
Do whut?
I didn't speak a word about his beliefs. What are you talking about? Or who are you speaking of?
They clothe their darkness in .50 cent words to make them sound more
intelligent, and right...
on Judgement day, they'll use the right words in vain...
If they can speak at all!
Too late then!
Sman

Lexington, KY

#96808 Mar 22, 2013
what wrote:
guess u dont have the verse for me so u got to run now. ill just tell u real quick tho, it is not possible for anyone that isnt a jew to get to heaven then its like a lottery if u are a jew. im sorry u got to go but best of wishes to u and yours, i dont try to make enemies here, just try to show u things u prob dont know cuz no smart preacher would ever point this out to u cuz it would cut in to his profits. but if u have questions or can find an answer to any i have asked on this forum just drop a line here cuz unlike one side of this conversation, the side im talkin for does give real answers that arent twisted, require special circumstances or require anyone to accept something as truth when in reality it just is absurd. i do encourage u to atleast question your preacher on things, like when he says we will be in heaven ask him to show u the scripture cuz i will bet u he cant either. so if your church preaches u will go to heaven u should at the least look for a new church that does teach what the bible actually says instead of one that just boosts your feel good emotions so that u feel even better givin that money to them at the end of service. nothing is worse than reading plain black and white then havin someone say, well it says that but let me tell u what it really means....lol...if u can read then u dont need someone else to explain what something means to u, read it and if u dont know a word look it up and then u will have what it means. it cant say do not kill then turn around say kill this and this and this and then turn around again and say if u kill u will go to hell but if u dont follow my laws u go to hell. the bible is one of those special books that gives power to anyone for anything they want to use it for. thats why every thing u could imagine that is horrible prob has a loop hole for it in the bible. the translators werent stupid, they made a book that has given them power and wealth for centuries while the ppl that want it to be true suffer and go hungry becuz they wrote that the righteous will suffer and get crucifed and all that so it keep us poor from gathering force and tellin the rich its time for a change and if u dont want it to change we will just kill u and change it ourselves becuz if we kill we go to hell unless ofcourse it is gays, or mean kids, or ppl that work on the sabboth, or everyone of the enemy, including kids, except the virgin girls which we get to keep for ourselves to toy with, or anyone in general as long as it dont impose on those few rich and religious ppl that control the world now. maybe when religion dies humans will finally get equal rights and treatment and no one will have billions of dollars in the bank while children starve and die. i just love the christians that are rich that think they have a chance to live forever....how can they explain havin all that money to god and being greedy when they know ppl are starving everyday. they are def moral arent they? biggest oxymoron every, republican christian...lol...it just is not possible
Your wall of text? I didn't read.
Sman

Lexington, KY

#96809 Mar 22, 2013
Walls of text from Jesus phaghats... I don't read that shat!
Wrong again Sparky

Richmond, KY

#96810 Mar 22, 2013
Satanic Priest wrote:
<quoted text>You missed the part about unless some one is violating us. The christian cult has; by pushing their beliefs as if they are the truth, by judging and condemning us with out knowing what we believe, by threats of violence, by murder, by violent physical attacks.
If we turned around and treated you as you have treated us ....... yea well that is what I now do
No!
What you do, is what you do with every post...
You Prove the Bible true!
It's funny that you cannot see that!
Keep up the good work!
happy

Louisville, KY

#96811 Mar 22, 2013
what wrote:
guess u dont have the verse for me so u got to run now. ill just tell u real quick tho, it is not possible for anyone that isnt a jew to get to heaven then its like a lottery if u are a jew. im sorry u got to go but best of wishes to u and yours, i dont try to make enemies here, just try to show u things u prob dont know cuz no smart preacher would ever point this out to u cuz it would cut in to his profits. but if u have questions or can find an answer to any i have asked on this forum just drop a line here cuz unlike one side of this conversation, the side im talkin for does give real answers that arent twisted, require special circumstances or require anyone to accept something as truth when in reality it just is absurd. i do encourage u to atleast question your preacher on things, like when he says we will be in heaven ask him to show u the scripture cuz i will bet u he cant either. so if your church preaches u will go to heaven u should at the least look for a new church that does teach what the bible actually says instead of one that just boosts your feel good emotions so that u feel even better givin that money to them at the end of service. nothing is worse than reading plain black and white then havin someone say, well it says that but let me tell u what it really means....lol...if u can read then u dont need someone else to explain what something means to u, read it and if u dont know a word look it up and then u will have what it means. it cant say do not kill then turn around say kill this and this and this and then turn around again and say if u kill u will go to hell but if u dont follow my laws u go to hell. the bible is one of those special books that gives power to anyone for anything they want to use it for. thats why every thing u could imagine that is horrible prob has a loop hole for it in the bible. the translators werent stupid, they made a book that has given them power and wealth for centuries while the ppl that want it to be true suffer and go hungry becuz they wrote that the righteous will suffer and get crucifed and all that so it keep us poor from gathering force and tellin the rich its time for a change and if u dont want it to change we will just kill u and change it ourselves becuz if we kill we go to hell unless ofcourse it is gays, or mean kids, or ppl that work on the sabboth, or everyone of the enemy, including kids, except the virgin girls which we get to keep for ourselves to toy with, or anyone in general as long as it dont impose on those few rich and religious ppl that control the world now. maybe when religion dies humans will finally get equal rights and treatment and no one will have billions of dollars in the bank while children starve and die. i just love the christians that are rich that think they have a chance to live forever....how can they explain havin all that money to god and being greedy when they know ppl are starving everyday. they are def moral arent they? biggest oxymoron every, republican christian...lol...it just is not possible
Wow. What? Oh my my.
God I know you RESCUED me and I know You are real. Remembering how you have kept me safe and the miracles you have provided. I KNOW You are real. I can't see how ppl deny You or why. Such peace and joy...amazing LOVE ...Lord may Your will be done.
happy

Louisville, KY

#96812 Mar 22, 2013
PREVIOUS PATIENT AT KDMC wrote:
Has ANYONE read the full story of this discussion & not just the TITLE? Well I hadn't! Just did! I'm ashamed of myself for joining a discussion I didn't know the FULL extent of! This Topic has become a trash slinging, rude, disrespectful, name calling discussion! The full story behind this discussion is offering an Elective Course of Bible Study to High School students in KY Public Schools! The State is not trying to ENFORCE Christianity or the Bible on ANY child! The Topic IS NOT who is Right or Wrong, just giving the STUDENTS the right to CHOOSE for themselves. I personally, see nothing wrong with giving the students the RIGHT to make their OWN CHOICE! That's why it is called an Elective Course, not FORCED. I see only one good thing with my participation in this discussion, I got to SHARE MY GODLY Morals & Values with you. So, I respectfully thank you for listening & responding to my comments & I now bow out graciously. And for those who may doubt my CHRISTIANITY, yes, I strive daily to be more Christ like!, and IF I DO FALL, I do repent & ask forgiveness & MY GOD is Just to FORGIVE! May God Bless ALL & Shine His Face Upon You!!!
AMEN
happy

Louisville, KY

#96813 Mar 22, 2013
what wrote:
<quoted text>kingdom of god does not equal heaven just as being saved does not equal heaven. the fact is only 144,000 jews are goin to heaven and unless u are a jew then u are not allowed in to that elite club formed by your racist god. do u really not know anything about the scriptures?
WOW! I would re read and study that again 144,000 ... Lots of us left behind :-) if that's the case teehee. NO Way. Sorry

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