Bible study rules for public schools proposed

Feb 10, 2010 | Posted by: roboblogger | Full story: The Courier-Journal

FRANKFORT, Ky. - The state would create rules for teaching about the Bible in public high schools under a bill filed Monday by three Democratic senators.

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When someone breaks into your home how many are going to grab a gun and pray for help? When you are about to slam into another car what thoughts do you have? Do you say OMG? When you are about to slam into a car and it DOESN'T happen? Who stopped it? I have miracle after miracle that you could try and explain away but I know and others who have experienced them know exactly what I'm talking about and that their is certainly a God.
If you ...choose... Free will... A Choice... To deny Him... It's certainly your choice ...but it will also be your biggest loss..(best love you can ever know) and your last regret...
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<quoted text>Matthew 19:21 Jesus said unto him, If thou wilt be perfect, go and sell that thou hast, and give to the poor, and thou shalt have treasure in heaven: and come and follow me.
PRACTICE WHAT YOU PREACH!
?????? Hello? Honey I'm far far from perfect but I am forgiven! PRAISE GOD PRAISE GOD PRAISE GOD and I KNOW what I was RESCUED from and ill continue to PRAISE PRAISE PRAISE MY GOD whoop whoop WHOO hoo. I LOVE YOU JESUS JESUS JESUS JESUS JESUS there'd nothing like that name JESUS
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weel now thats hunky dorey.... only in print is the
untruth on religion the scientist have proven evolution is a fcat. when u so call believers wake up u will be in the dark
You know good and well that is not true! If evolution was a proven fact they would be so quick to state that and produce the evidevce so it could be called a proven FACT instead of a THEORY!
Here is your opportunity to produce the FACTS!
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<quoted text>I am aware that there are church people and there are christians. I use the term christian cult to separate them from people who really believe in their god and try to live by their beliefs.
I do not believe in the Jewish version of god nor the christian model from the Jewish version.
Everything is energy, frequency, and vibration.(Tesla)
Christianity is not only following God's Word, but, having a PERSONAL relationship with Jesus! IF you profess to be a Christian & DO NOT HAVE OR SHOW LOVE, then you are not as you say! God expects Christians to KEEP His Ten Commandments, but, above ALL, Jesus says the Greatest Command is to LOVE!! Thank you again for listening to me, but please know that Jesus is LOVE & Not HATE! Not pushing my beliefs on you, only trying to explain why I LOVE GOD & HIS WORD! May God Bless You Abundently!
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The Just Live by Faith
26 For if we sin willfully after we have received the knowledge of the truth, there no longer remains a sacrifice for sins,
Verse 26 demostrates a problem with understanding the bible. First one would have to know they have received the true knowledge of bilical truth. How would you qualify truth?

Then why would one repent if he did sin after having knowledge of the truth? If you willfully had gotten drunk you would not be forgiven, so why repent?
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<quoted text>I thought that we are not under the law but under grace. The old testament laws do not apply, or is it a sin to eat pork and shellfish? HMMM? Picking and choosing from the bible and making things up as you go along just proves that your god is not real and you do not believe that the bible is the word of god.
You know the scriptures pretty well
It seems. So who hurt you? It had to be a person. People will always always let you down. Especially if you have them on a pedestal or it was someone you trusted maybe... GOD will/would never hurt you. He cares about your concerns. He would never never never leave you or forsake you. Satan HATES hates hates you. Even with you serving him.. He HATES YOU. He's using you ..
JESUS I ask for a hedge of protection around this person and that you would show him the light in whatever form you deem necessary to bring this child in I plead the BLOOD of Jesus all around him for protection and that they might come to know the true power of your LOVE in Jesus name .. That they would feel your HOLY presence. Thank You Father for saving me from the pits of hell. You are my rescuer. My salvation. In Jesus name i pray Amen

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"Creationists make it sound like a ‘theory’ is something you dreamt up after being drunk all night."

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<quoted text>Interesting and ironic. No additions beyond the Christ's gospel? Well, in the first place, there's no record that Jesus wrote ANYTHING. Revelations was written by John of Patmos - a guy who never met Jesus (and neither did Saul) and had no known credentials, but there's his book added to all the rest. Then people rant and rail for it over a hundred other writings that hold the same degree of authority. Nods to Moroni - Sic 'em!.
Oh please please please Deny child deny. Ill keep reaping the benefits of being a child of God. Born again. Rescued and peaceful and yes happy. Miracle after miracle after miracle. Peace in trials and oh yes I have trials. I grow stronger thru each and my faith and trust grows that much stronger and my love. I don't fear you or your type or hate you. I have been where you are. I would never ever never ever turn my back on my GOD. I will share my faith till I die because of what my God gas done for me if HE never did another thing for me...

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Doesn't work well on the iPhone either.
Yes I can see how it could be offensive to Non-Mormons because they don't understand that it doesn't make them Mormon, it just gives them the opportunity to accept it. Otherwise, it means nothing. I'm in that situation now.
We are urged to only do work for people in our own geneaology to avoid offending others. We believe in the sealing powers that last beyond the graves. We believe it is God's will to link all generations together all the way back to Adam, so the practice would never be denounced. But as I said, you will have the right to choose to accept it or not, just like you have the right to do it on your own now.
As for the Book of Abraham, I don't believe that statement is accurate. There were sources that were close friends with the prophet that said he put aside the scrolls that were not pertinent to the work he was called to do. We know for sure there was a lot of junk in the lot that he bought, so not all of it was important.
Reformed Egyptian was what the people of the Book of Mormon called their langueage, which they said admittedly changed over the years from what their ancestors used. The original plates were abridged by Mormon and his son Moroni, some of which, hundreds of years after they were written. So it seems possible to me that the language could have been completely different by then. They didn't have formal schools then.
I look at how things could happen. As I said, if Christians like myself can believe the things in the Bible (especially Old Testament) happened, then the things that happened with the Book of Mormon are certainly believable.
I realize that this isn't an argument for someone that doesn't believe the Bible isn't true, you don't have to remind me. I'm aware. I'm just comparing.
I would not trust Mormon sources on this story. The LDS has a long history of distorting the truth to avoid embarrassment, including the Book of Abraham.

The story is, as I have heard it from various non-Mormon (historical) sources, that Smith was reluctant to do the translation (because he couldn't) and it was later quite easily shown to be incorrect.

I can understand Mormons wanting to minimize the damage this failure did to their church by embracing all possible alternatives.

We are not going to see this the same way. I've read bits and pieces of the Book of Mormon and I find it tedious and dull. The stories are not interesting and they certainly lack any shred of evidence toward their truth. I accept the Jewish Bible as mythology and early literature. I accept the New Testament as newer mythology and literature. Neither are very good, really. But they are very important.

I find the Book of Mormon to be an interesting modern invention. I do not think it is very well written, nor do I find it to be very important in the long run.

Have fun with it, I simply have no use for it.

But I will continue to argue against the LDS as long as Mormons do things like promote Prop 8 and maintain a misogynistic worldview. Such cultures are ugly in the light of the modern era and will shrivel under criticism. I think in time the LDS will either evolve into a toothless, vanilla Christian sect that is in line with changing social norms or it will shrink and become a magnet for crazy people.

For what its worth, you are a polite person to argue with. I have no ill will toward you. I just find your religion to be offensive and kooky. Like all the others, really.

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If you repeat the crime, then repentance never happened, as I described before.
I don't subscribe to a religion that believes works are not important. The scriptures say faith without works is dead. Works alone do not provide salvation, but faith without works means there never was really faith.
I hope this helps you understand my stance.
And that is merely what your particular faith teaches. It is not what other faiths teach, using the same book.

John Calvin said that your works, no matter how great, are depraved. Otherwise a human could begin to aspire to be perfect like God. He found this notion utterly incoherent. Instead, you must simply have faith that God grants you grace. The works you do would be outward signs that perhaps you do have that faith.

Or something very much like that.

My point is that the actions of a man cannot impact the actions of God, otherwise a man has some kind of power to move God. This is the view of a huge portion of Protestant faiths. So a man could indeed rape again and again and end up going to Heaven, according to many faiths. It is merely an application of their own logic. Otherwise a man's actions can move God, which means God is slightly less than all powerful.

And since the Bible supplies so many passages of often conflicting natures you could literally tease any kind of theology you want to out of.

What makes the LDS correct? What makes Baptists wrong? What makes Hindus wrong? And if they are all correct, why bother?

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You show no scriptures to support your suposition only faulty religious beliefs.
You could use a serious Bible study with Jehovah's Witnesses to clear away all the nonsense you THINK the Bible teaches. You would be surprised at what the TRUTH can do for you, John 8:31,32 And so Jesus went on to say to the Jews that had believed him:“If YOU remain in my word, YOU are really my disciples, 32 and YOU will know the truth, and the truth will set YOU free
You labor under the assumption that other people find Bible verses to be compelling too. I do not.

I have studied the Bible, casually. I have a working understanding of Christian theologies, though certainly not perfect or comprehensive. Clearly my worldview is rooted in naturalism, not faith.

We shall have to simply disagree on this matter.
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<quoted text>I thought that we are not under the law but under grace. The old testament laws do not apply, or is it a sin to eat pork and shellfish? HMMM? Picking and choosing from the bible and making things up as you go along just proves that your god is not real and you do not believe that the bible is the word of god.
You are right to say we aren't under the old law & that we are now under Grace. God does not hate the Sinner, but the Sin. Sin will always be sin, but through Faith by Grace & not Sacrificial Blood,(the Old Law) we are forgiven of our sins if we ask! Having said that, being gay is an abomination (sin) against God, but, if you ask god to forgive you of the sin, & TURN from the sin, then God IS just & forgiving & you can go to Heaven. Why is this my belief? I CHOOSE TO BELIEVE THE BIBLE! Not Pushing on you, just explaining MY beliefs & why. Thank you again for listening with respect!
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You know the scriptures pretty well
It seems. So who hurt you? It had to be a person. People will always always let you down. Especially if you have them on a pedestal or it was someone you trusted maybe... GOD will/would never hurt you. He cares about your concerns. He would never never never leave you or forsake you. Satan HATES hates hates you. Even with you serving him.. He HATES YOU. He's using you ..
JESUS I ask for a hedge of protection around this person and that you would show him the light in whatever form you deem necessary to bring this child in I plead the BLOOD of Jesus all around him for protection and that they might come to know the true power of your LOVE in Jesus name .. That they would feel your HOLY presence. Thank You Father for saving me from the pits of hell. You are my rescuer. My salvation. In Jesus name i pray Amen
I'm in TOTAL AGREEMENT with your prayer!!
Thank you in advance God for answering our prayers! PRAISE THE LORD

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You know the scriptures pretty well
It seems. So who hurt you? It had to be a person. People will always always let you down. Especially if you have them on a pedestal or it was someone you trusted maybe... GOD will/would never hurt you. He cares about your concerns. He would never never never leave you or forsake you. Satan HATES hates hates you. Even with you serving him.. He HATES YOU. He's using you ..
JESUS I ask for a hedge of protection around this person and that you would show him the light in whatever form you deem necessary to bring this child in I plead the BLOOD of Jesus all around him for protection and that they might come to know the true power of your LOVE in Jesus name .. That they would feel your HOLY presence. Thank You Father for saving me from the pits of hell. You are my rescuer. My salvation. In Jesus name i pray Amen
When did Dollar General start selling reconditioned computers?
THIS is why we need the Bible in schools?
When your version of the universe rotates around how much an all loving god planned practically from the git-go to incinerate almost every human soul for all of eternity... and it's all Satan's fault for disagreeing on whether humans should know right from wrong... Um, yeah. Sounds good to you, do whut? I think I'll take a pass on that universe, thanks anyway.
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Interesting and ironic. No additions beyond the Christ's gospel? Well, in the first place, there's no record that Jesus wrote ANYTHING. Revelations was written by John of Patmos - a guy who never met Jesus (and neither did Saul) and had no known credentials, but there's his book added to all the rest. Then people rant and rail for it over a hundred other writings that hold the same degree of authority. Nods to Moroni - Sic 'em!.
You should not make statements until you have done some research and got the facts straight. Example: You say Revelations when there is only one book with that title so it is REVELATION. Not a big deal but you refer to John as being from Patmos. Patmos was a prison and John was inprisoned there when he wrote Revelation. The same John wrote the book of John, 1John, 2John and 3John. And this John was one of Jesus' Apostles but you say he never knew Jesus!

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Oh please please please Deny child deny. Ill keep reaping the benefits of being a child of God. Born again. Rescued and peaceful and yes happy. Miracle after miracle after miracle. Peace in trials and oh yes I have trials. I grow stronger thru each and my faith and trust grows that much stronger and my love. I don't fear you or your type or hate you. I have been where you are. I would never ever never ever turn my back on my GOD. I will share my faith till I die because of what my God gas done for me if HE never did another thing for me...
Hey crazy lady - I'm not a child. Knock off the bullcrap revival tent lingo. You have *no clue* where I am or where I've been. Do not think that because I turn my back on organized religions and the fantasies that have been constructed by them over the centuries that I am willfully ignorant or led astray. Pluck the plank from your eye and stop looking down on others from your pink cloud - you are neither my shepherd nor my savior.
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Jehovah’s Witnesses—Who Are We?

We come from hundreds of ethnic and language backgrounds, yet we are united by common goals. Above all, we want to honor Jehovah, the God of the Bible and the Creator of all things. We do our best to imitate Jesus Christ and are proud to be called Christians. Each of us regularly spends time helping people learn about the Bible and God’s Kingdom. Because we witness, or talk, about Jehovah God and his Kingdom, we are known as Jehovah’s Witnesses.

Explore our site. Read the Bible online. Learn more about us and our beliefs.
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You should not make statements until you have done some research and got the facts straight. Example: You say Revelations when there is only one book with that title so it is REVELATION. Not a big deal but you refer to John as being from Patmos. Patmos was a prison and John was inprisoned there when he wrote Revelation. The same John wrote the book of John, 1John, 2John and 3John. And this John was one of Jesus' Apostles but you say he never knew Jesus!
There is no evidence that the John who was exiled to the heretic's island of Patmos was the John who wrote anything else. The syntax is different and the time frame is wrong by at least 70 years. I understand how you got confused about that, since your go-to is the NWT.

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Jehovah’s Witnesses—Who Are We?
We come from hundreds of ethnic and language backgrounds, yet we are united by common goals. Above all, we want to honor Jehovah, the God of the Bible and the Creator of all things. We do our best to imitate Jesus Christ and are proud to be called Christians. Each of us regularly spends time helping people learn about the Bible and God’s Kingdom. Because we witness, or talk, about Jehovah God and his Kingdom, we are known as Jehovah’s Witnesses.
Explore our site. Read the Bible online. Learn more about us and our beliefs.
www.jw.org
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