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Bible study rules for public schools proposed

There are 156580 comments on the The Courier-Journal story from Feb 10, 2010, titled Bible study rules for public schools proposed. In it, The Courier-Journal reports that:

FRANKFORT, Ky. - The state would create rules for teaching about the Bible in public high schools under a bill filed Monday by three Democratic senators.

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PREVIOUS PATIENT AT KDMC

Nicholasville, KY

#96771 Mar 21, 2013
what wrote:
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if we are not under the old law then why do the christians get all mad when we want the 10 commandments taken down. since they came from the old testament we are not under that law anymore, right? so why are wanting to spread lies by displayin the commandments when in fact we dont have to follow them if u agree the old law is gone.
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Because Jesus said in the New Testament, "If you love Me, you will keep my Father's Commandments, but the Greatest of ALL commands IS LOVE." Not being under the Old Law means no more "Blood Sacrificing." JESUS was the LAST & ULTIMATE BLOOD SACRIFICE!
GWB

Rancho Cordova, CA

#96772 Mar 21, 2013
what wrote:
<quoted text>
if we are not under the old law then why do the christians get all mad when we want the 10 commandments taken down. since they came from the old testament we are not under that law anymore, right? so why are wanting to spread lies by displayin the commandments when in fact we dont have to follow them if u agree the old law is gone.
Very good point you made. Those that display the 10 commandments are rejecting Jesus because he fulfilled the law.

Only two commandments would be acceptable according to the New Testament otherwise Jesus sacrifice would have been in vain.
Known Fact

Cape Canaveral, FL

#96774 Mar 21, 2013
Yiago wrote:
<quoted text>
You wrote the reply, or was it from the Watchtower? You linked to a JW site so I assumed you did not write it.
I'm not interested in reading what the JW church has to say. I was more interested in your personal opinion on how we know something is true.
But never mind. To each his own.
Romans 1:20-22 20 For his (God's) invisible [qualities] are clearly seen from the world’s creation onward, because they are perceived by the things made, even his eternal power and Godship, so that they are inexcusable;
I have come to the same conclusion as the Apostle Paul.
Common sense will tell you anything left to it's own will deterioate instead of evolve.
Jehovah's Witnesses published a book "LIFE - How Did It Get Here? By Evolution Or By Creation?" You would do well to obtain a copy of that book (it is free) because it has been thoroughly researched on both sides of the issue. If after examining that book if you are not convienced that we were created then there is nothing I can say that will change your mind.
As you said to each his own.
Wrong again Sparky

Richmond, KY

#96775 Mar 21, 2013
Skeptical Spectacles wrote:
<quoted text>
Sticking your fingers in your ears, closing your eyes, and repeating your mantras will not change reality. The evidence is there, even though you don't want to understand it. It's there and more is found every year. Unlike your god, it doesn't care whether you believe in it or not, it simply exists...because it's real.
You refusing to understand it does not invalidate it.
Yer the one with your fingers in your ears...
God is real...
He saved me!
Yes and Amen

Richmond, KY

#96776 Mar 21, 2013
Quantummist wrote:
<quoted text>
With all the gold the assorted religions gather in his name he could afford a GPS...
Hahaha!
He's got something better than GPS... LOL
Yes and Amen

Richmond, KY

#96777 Mar 21, 2013
Kitty wrote:
<quoted text>Yep this old body will rot like hamburger in the hot sun, But the soul will be in Beautiful Heaven with God. "Eye hath not seen nor ear heard what God has prepared for His children." Don't miss it!
Amen!
He won't force them in...
Neither will we!
Yes and Amen

Richmond, KY

#96778 Mar 21, 2013
Skeptical Spectacles wrote:
<quoted text>
Pascal's wager with a threat of torture on the side, how nice. You bible thumpers sure do love torture fantasies. It makes me think you may be closet S&M freaks.
I keep asking this, but none of you seem to want to answer me. How is it that your god loves to torture his creations? How is it possible that humans have a greater capacity for forgiveness than your "loving" god?
(1) No! we do not "NOT" want you
to go to punishment!
(2) Whether it be Hell, or just outer darkness...
You will suffer knowing you had a chance, and blew it!

Imagine spending an eternity... knowing we were right!
We are! We're telling you... Seek God with all your heart!
You WILL be glad you did!
Yes and Amen

Richmond, KY

#96779 Mar 21, 2013
LOL in a suit wrote:
How will religies feel when they get to their "heaven" and find gay people there. The god in a jesus suit said gay people will go to "heaven" tooooo.
Yes... there will be people that USED to be gay!
Only IF they repented, and forsaken their sins!
I'll send you a link if you want!
Known Fact

Cape Canaveral, FL

#96780 Mar 21, 2013
Yiago wrote:
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No, no, no. I'm asking *you*, not the Watchtower.
How do *you* know? If it is just a feeling or faith, then you have no more insight than any other religious person.
Do you realize that every single Christian church claims that they also are on the right path?
Hell, Muslims are willing to kill and die for their God. If it is just a matter of how strong your faith is then they win all the way to the bank.
I'm trying to get at the reasons you believe you are in the right church, or that any church is right. That is the root of the problem. Reason.
Faith lacks it.

So what is your reason? Not the Watchtower's reason, your reason.
First of all I am thoroughly convienced (not by blind faith) that the Bible is indeed the word of God. One is it's eternal harmony.
There are several other reasons that convences me that we(Jehovhh's Witnesses) do indeed have the truth! One is we (me included) base everything we teach on God's word the Bible. John 8:31,32 17:3 17:17 and 1John 5:19
Is that better?
Known Fact

Cape Canaveral, FL

#96781 Mar 21, 2013
Yes and Amen wrote:
<quoted text>(1) No! we do not "NOT" want you
to go to punishment!
(2) Whether it be Hell, or just outer darkness...
You will suffer knowing you had a chance, and blew it!
Imagine spending an eternity... knowing we were right!
We are! We're telling you... Seek God with all your heart!
You WILL be glad you did!
Jeremiah 25:32,33
Dead bodies from one end of the earth to the other end
“This is what Jehovah of armies has said,‘Look! A calamity is going forth from nation to nation, and a great tempest itself will be roused up from the remotest parts of the earth. 33 And those slain by Jehovah will certainly come to be in that day from one end of the earth clear to the other end of the earth. They will not be bewailed, neither will they be gathered up or be buried. As manure on the surface of the ground they will become.’
34 “Howl, YOU shepherds (religious leaders), and cry out! And wallow about, YOU majestic ones of the flock, because YOUR days for slaughtering and for YOUR scatterings have been fulfilled, and YOU must fall like a desirable vessel! 35 And a place to flee to has perished from the shepherds, and a means of escape from the majestic ones of the flock. 36 Listen! The outcry of the shepherds, and the howling of the majestic ones of the flock, for Jehovah is despoiling their pasturage. 37 And the peaceful abiding places have been rendered lifeless because of the burning anger of Jehovah. 38 He has left his covert just like a maned young lion, for their land has become an object of astonishment because of the maltreating sword and because of his burning anger.”

Since: Mar 13

Pineville, KY

#96782 Mar 21, 2013
Absolutely nothing academic about the Bible. I'm not saying it is completely without value, but teaching it in school? Well, not if it's a public school. Sorry.
Yes and Amen

Richmond, KY

#96783 Mar 21, 2013
Lazy State Worker wrote:
<quoted text>
How can you believe in Satan and not God? HUH? I don't get that. I mean I worship God and not Satan, but I believe there IS A satan, how could I believe in God and not Satan? Good and Evil. That is what they are. You worship Evil.
Every post he(SP) makes,
he proves
the Bible to be true!
Good, n evil,
Wise, n ignorant,
God, n satan!
what

Pikeville, KY

#96784 Mar 21, 2013
-NEPHILIM- wrote:
<quoted text>
Here's my experience on why they join. After knocking on a hundred doors they come across a person with no friends, no money, no education and they are nice to them. They offer to come back, offer to be their friends and bring them into their group. They tell them how evil religion is and show all the bad things that religion has done and they offer something different.
They explain Christmas is a pagan holiday, explain the Christmas tree and things like how it is consider sun worship because the days get longer. They show how Hell and the Trinity isn't bible teachings and they they kill them with kindness.
All it is basically religion has done such a shitty job over the years so something new must be right and once they join its hard to leave so instead, idiots like Knows Dick just vomit the same crap out of their mouths because the more who believe it the less stupid they look. That's why he copy/paste crap because he's to stupid to think on his own. He has to much invested to ever admit he's wrong. That's why he won't respond to posts.
u could have figured it out, but its not muich different than the reasons ppl join other churches. its all about the social part of it for most, the actual teachings of the bible dont matter to them as it shows in their actions, or in this case it shows with them not taking the actions the book tells them to take. and nice call on the christmas info, although they wont admit it, christmas was celebrated long before any christ came to be cuz of other gods and different beliefs in the sun. as far as hell and the trinity, hell is mentioned but the trinity is just something made up from certain little sects and the JW's are right by showin that it is all made up but the sad part is they insert their invisible friend in to the slot that the trinity takes in the other congregation. i dont see how anyone can believe in the trinity knowin the bible mentions nothing of a trinity at all, it plainly states 3 seperate entities workin together as one. it doesnt say u have a 3 headed god like the trinity is suggestion.
what

Pikeville, KY

#96785 Mar 21, 2013
PREVIOUS PATIENT AT KDMC wrote:
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What? Your comment,(to me) is nonsense. The Bible states it is wrong to add to or take away. God gave us all "Free Will". God will NOT make you do what is right, or wrong, He only tells us HIS WILL. We have the right to choose our will or God's. ALL will be judged on Judgement Day & everything we said or did while here on earth will be judged accordingly! This is my understanding & belief, but I also feel if you are going state the Bible, you should search First, then state it correctly!
go and read the bible and then u might be able to understand what im sayin then. i find it funny that the believers hardly ever know anything in the bible except for jesus died for me and all i gotta do is believe and get baptised and im goin to heaven. the problem is they fail to read all the fine print in the book just as ppl dont read fine print in contracts. not one single person i know of in america is a real christian, no matter if u say u are or not. i can show the scriptures to prove it cuz i do actually know whats in the book but when u do point it out in the bible they will still ignore it cuz they think they can change gods word to what suits them just as u do everyday yourself. hypocrisy is worse than sinning u know, all the christian hypocrites will be in hell with the atheist if the abrahamic god is the real one out of all the others, that is if there is a god at all anyway.
what

Pikeville, KY

#96786 Mar 21, 2013
PREVIOUS PATIENT AT KDMC wrote:
<quoted text>.
Because Jesus said in the New Testament, "If you love Me, you will keep my Father's Commandments, but the Greatest of ALL commands IS LOVE." Not being under the Old Law means no more "Blood Sacrificing." JESUS was the LAST & ULTIMATE BLOOD SACRIFICE!
well why are u not killin ppl workin on the sabboth or killin the gay ppl? why do u ignore these commandments of the Father? are u so in tune with them that u can just choose which ones u want to use and which ones u can say well jesus done away with those? its either all or none whether u like it or not and if its not all then u my friend are a hypocrit and u shall join us heathens in hell. if u beat me there save me a spot and vice versa.
Yes and Amen

Richmond, KY

#96787 Mar 21, 2013
do whut wrote:
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Where does the Bible forbid "another Gospel of Jesus"?
What laws and dates?
*"Where does the Bible forbid "another Gospel of Jesus"?
Galations
1:6 I marvel that ye are so soon removed from him that called you into the grace of Christ, to another gospel: 1:7 Which is not another; but there are some that trouble you, and would pervert the gospel of Christ. 1:8 But though we, or an angel from heaven, should preach any other gospel to you than that which we have preached to you, let him be accursed. 1:9 As we said before, so I say now again, If any [man] preacheth any other gospel to you than that ye have received, let him be accursed.

2 Corinthians
11:3 But I fear, lest by any means, as the serpent beguiled Eve through his subtilty, so your minds should be corrupted from the simplicity that is in Christ. 11:4 For if he that cometh preacheth another Jesus, whom we have not preached, or [if] ye receive another spirit, which ye have not received, or another gospel, which ye have not accepted, ye might well bear with [him].

*"What laws and dates?"
I cannot remember the exact quote, and my Libronix Digital Library System
tends to return either too many verses, or not enough... LOL
Read the Catholic version of the 10 Commandments
http://atheism.about.com/od/tencommandments/a...
Notice the Catholics removed #2, and split #10...
plus they changed the Sabbath from Sat, to Sun.
.
Ask yourself this...
Did Jesus not do it all on the Cross?
What more do you need than what was written (John 3:16-19)?
Rejoyce IN Jesus Christ... Not Joseph Smith (a crooked man)!

My Dad (a mormon) seen the Light, repented, and was saved,
and born again!
He's in Heaven now... Amen!
May God Bless you with eyes to see!
what

Pikeville, KY

#96788 Mar 21, 2013
Yes and Amen wrote:
<quoted text>(1) No! we do not "NOT" want you
to go to punishment!
(2) Whether it be Hell, or just outer darkness...
You will suffer knowing you had a chance, and blew it!
Imagine spending an eternity... knowing we were right!
We are! We're telling you... Seek God with all your heart!
You WILL be glad you did!
u tell us your thoughts and we tell u our thoughts...the only difference is your thoughts have no proof other than personal faith but ours on the other hand has plenty of real solid tangible proof. we cant help that u ignore it and wont take the time to really look for truth.

“In God we trust”

Since: Dec 12

Cape Town, South Africa

#96789 Mar 21, 2013
The bible is a great Book. Even if you're not Christian it will teach you life lessons.
what

Pikeville, KY

#96790 Mar 21, 2013
and i challenge any single christian here to tell me the scripture that says u will go to heaven. im not sayin a scripture that says u will be saved becuz saved does not mean heaven no matter how hard u try to make it be. not one single verse in the bible says we can go to heaven but on the flip side there are many that says no man shall ever enter the gates of heaven. so when u find the scripture that says we are gonna go to heaven let me know which one it is cuz id like to read it myself.
Yes and Amen

Richmond, KY

#96791 Mar 21, 2013
Skeptical Spectacles wrote:
<quoted text>
Yeah, something else that some of our founding fathers would be railing against if they were alive today.
Replacing our motto "E Pluribus Unum" with that hogwash in 1956 would have made Jefferson's head explode.
My money has BOTH on it... LOL

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