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Bible study rules for public schools proposed

There are 156562 comments on the The Courier-Journal story from Feb 10, 2010, titled Bible study rules for public schools proposed. In it, The Courier-Journal reports that:

FRANKFORT, Ky. - The state would create rules for teaching about the Bible in public high schools under a bill filed Monday by three Democratic senators.

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“Question, Explore, Discover”

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#96685 Mar 20, 2013
do whut wrote:
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Again, this is why we believe it was necessary for the complete gospel of Jesus Christ to be restored. Because so many interpretations from the same book are not representative of a God of order that expects details to be correct. His intent was not for many denominations with partial truths. This was Satan's influence.
Jesus told us that there would be a falling away from the church and a restitution of all things before His return. We simply believe this has taken place.
Do you not think that when Martin Luther's words started the Protestant movement those folks thought they were restoring the Church? Why do you think the LDS is the correct restoration of the church?

Do any of the gaping holes in the Mormon faith not bother you? I've listed several. What about the archeology, which is 100% empty of evidence to support your book?
GWB

Rancho Cordova, CA

#96686 Mar 20, 2013
-NEPHILIM- wrote:
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Its all good man. A lot of us kids that were born in decided to leave. There is an extremely high suicide rate and drug abuse with those that were born in and then left. I'm not sure why, maybe some still believed and thought God was going to kill them at any momentor maybe they couldn't handle the freedom after years of being told what to do. I think a lot of them had trouble being disowned and losing their friends and family was just to much to handle. Growing up in the cult you weren't allowed to have friends that weren't JWs so when you left you left everything you knew.
I kind of compare it to inmates that were institutionalized and re offend and go back to prison because that's all they knew. Its like Brooks in the Shawshank Redemption, he couldn't handle it and took the easy way out. Excellent movie by the way.
I appreciate you comments on this forum. I never saw the movie shawshank redemption, I will put in on my list of movies to watch .

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#96687 Mar 20, 2013
Blahblahblah wrote:
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... Anyone can read it, there are no requirements to do so.
Obviously

“Question, Explore, Discover”

Since: Dec 11

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#96689 Mar 20, 2013
do whut wrote:
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Understand, but I urge you to read the entire BOM from start to finish before drawing a conclusion. After all, if you don't, you are simply taking other's opinions about it rather than finding out on your own.
I was a major skeptic of the church too until I read it with an open mind.
As for the book I mentioned, you would never know the guy was a member by the way he exposes the bad as much as the good. I still recommend it.
As for the Book of Abraham, I haven't heard that reluctance part. This sounds like more of the story of the Kinderhook plates to me. Are you familiar with that episode?
The Kinderhook plates were a hoax but I'm not very familiar with that story. I know Smith thought they were real, which is a strike against any divinity he is said to have had. I mean, the guy was chosen by angels and could perform miracles right? Yet he can't pick out a fake and he lies about the Book of Abraham.

The whole thing is just funny to me. Fascinating, but funny.

I have no interest in reading the BoM. I can research it if I choose, maybe read bits of it. But I seriously doubt I'd ever take the time to read the whole thing. If there was something in there that was worth reading then respectable people I admire would have already suggested that I read it.

Strangely they have not.

And so it came to pass that I did not read it. lol
Known Fact

Cape Canaveral, FL

#96690 Mar 20, 2013
Quantummist wrote:
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One mans so called Truth is another mans Bull Shyte....
I don't think I was talking to you. From the looks of your post picture you look too ----to understand TRUTH if you were zaped on the head with it!
TheIndependentMa jority

Hazard, KY

#96691 Mar 20, 2013
-NEPHILIM- wrote:
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So the verse "all scriptures are inspired by God and" blah, blah blah just means man wrote it? Jeremiah 8:8 says the lying pens of the scribes wrote it down wrong.
I understand why you call yourself blah blah blah now.
That's MY interpretation of it.

Written by mostly men, inspired to write such.

With the occasional otherwise-like-

Esther.
Thoughts on the Book of Esther.

1. There is a preparation time.
She allowed herself to be prepared for the task. God's preparation time can sometimes be long and uneventful. Moses spent 40 years in the desert looking after sheep before coming to deliver the Israelites. The refining of our characters is very essential to God's plan for our life. God cannot use a proud woman (or man).

2. We need the favour of God.
Esther found favour with the King and so did Mordecai. Even Jesus grew in favour with God and man (Luke 2:52). When you live a life pleasing to God, by obeying His will you will find favour with Him. God will also give you favour with people.

3. God works in His own time and season.
Esther also got her timing right. Maybe God has put it on your heart to do something for Him. Don't just jump into it but wait for his time. Joseph was in jail until it was God's time for him to be released. God will move in His time when we remain faithful and alert to His leading.

4. Your background does not hinder your future with God.
Esther was an orphan. God still exalted her and used her. Some of Jesus' disciples were fishermen, tax collectors and one was a doctor. Your background does not determine what God can do with you. Your faith does.

A personal favorite to learn from of mine.

“Speaker of Mountain Wisdom....”

Since: Jan 10

Somerset, KY

#96692 Mar 20, 2013
Known Fact wrote:
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I don't think I was talking to you. From the looks of your post picture you look too ----to understand TRUTH if you were zaped on the head with it!
I don't give a rats ass who you were taking to... You are only showing that you don't have the mental capacity to understand the terms of art in use by people... Truth is an Individual concept... If you think you saw a man jump off a building and you tell the police, you are telling Your Truth even if the Jumper was a woman in pants and she actually didn't jump but tripped and fell... Truth to an individual is based on Belief of what they perceive is Fact... So One Mans Truth can be total Bull Excrement when the Fact be known...

I write this with full knowledge that you will not understand but do so that others can relate when you post more asinine replies...

Since: Jan 13

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#96693 Mar 20, 2013
stick the bible in my kids public school and they will be the first ones out it ... POINT BLANK if i wanted bible thumping teachers around my kids i wouldn't send them to public school>>> hell i don't have 1 bible in my house much less my kids school... screw >> you cant force religion on ppl cause there's hell of a alot of ppl just like me that don't believe in any of that crap.>>> call me close minded but hell if i cant see it> touch it > know its real then its not IMO
Blahblahblah

Hazard, KY

#96694 Mar 20, 2013
Satanic Priest wrote:
<quoted text>Right, you like to pick and choose what is pleasing and ignore the hard truth.
Like I said, you created a new god. Which means your god is no more real than any other God in human history so you have no right to demand that your bible be taught as fact to innocent children
Lets try this again-read slowwwwwly now.....

1. I didn't create any God. I just read the book, written by mostly men, inspired to do so. In fact, I tend to lean more agnostic mostly because anyone that can surmise anything logically would surmise, we really do NOT know, completely, who or what or how even, created the universe. I do however, find great wisdom and good guidance within SOME of the pages of the good book as I READ it. Even if I was raised in a more SCIENTIFICALLY predispositioned household.

2. I never demanded the Bible be taught in schools, never was where I was raised at (excluding occasional references to writing styles or types in literature classes perhaps). Mostly because I would not like freaks like you and some of these other hater type twist and distort heatherns, teaching my kids your religious takes on anything! All that negative hate on those things what you might not agree with-oh HELL no. Stay away from the innocent children for sure!

3. So you can quit with your HATE and bait fest now, because you have no good reason to be hating on me!

Or was it the "if science does not know for sure, why do yo think you, or anyone else would" question? Be honest now.
Blahblahblah

Hazard, KY

#96696 Mar 20, 2013
Satanic Priest wrote:
<quoted text>I used to feel like what you said, but too many times I have been run down talked down to, threatened, by the so called moral people.
Too many times have I been conned by them, too many times have I been cheated by church people.
I used to volunteer at a church and just got taken advantage of.
Now I treat people exactly as they treat me with the exeption of threats, I do not make threats I take action. If some one tells me they are going to woop my ass they better be ready to do so because i will be throwing 225 pounds (of muscle) behind my fist
Here is the simple part, dont want me to be mean do not be mean to me, dont want me to run down your cult then do not keep preaching at me after I say I do not believe, dont want me to quote the bible to you than dont tell me I am going to Hell..........
So, you kind of like the "Golden Rule" then too?
Blahblahblah

Hazard, KY

#96697 Mar 20, 2013
-NEPHILIM- wrote:
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You should quote your source instead of acting like you came up with that shit yourself. Just saying.
I didn't feel like it.

Copy and paste it into any search bar-it'll pop up.
Blahblahblah

Hazard, KY

#96698 Mar 20, 2013
-NEPHILIM- wrote:
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You should quote your source instead of acting like you came up with that shit yourself. Just saying.
Actually--since it is SECULAR, NOT a "religious" site-

http://www.wordlibrary.co.uk/article.php...

Just for the FACTS of record.

I have no problem giving credit where credit is due respectfully. Just NOT to ones who've done nothing to earn it.

“Question, Explore, Discover”

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#96699 Mar 20, 2013
Here's a question for the believers among us. A sincere question.

I like good stories. I appreciate mythology. I can use a phrase like "That was harder than the Labors of Hercules." and mean it.

Because I don't need Hercules to be *real* to find some meaning in the stories.

Do you feel the need for the god of the Bible to be *real* or can you get meaning out of the Christian tradition while simultaneously understanding that it is mythology, not history?
Blahblahblah

Hazard, KY

#96700 Mar 20, 2013
Quantummist wrote:
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I don't give a rats ass who you were taking to... You are only showing that you don't have the mental capacity to understand the terms of art in use by people... Truth is an Individual concept... If you think you saw a man jump off a building and you tell the police, you are telling Your Truth even if the Jumper was a woman in pants and she actually didn't jump but tripped and fell... Truth to an individual is based on Belief of what they perceive is Fact... So One Mans Truth can be total Bull Excrement when the Fact be known...
I write this with full knowledge that you will not understand but do so that others can relate when you post more asinine replies...
For once a day I have to agree, that can be verrrrrrry true!:-)
Blahblahblah

United States

#96702 Mar 20, 2013
Yiago wrote:
Here's a question for the believers among us. A sincere question.
I like good stories. I appreciate mythology. I can use a phrase like "That was harder than the Labors of Hercules." and mean it.
Because I don't need Hercules to be *real* to find some meaning in the stories.
Do you feel the need for the god of the Bible to be *real* or can you get meaning out of the Christian tradition while simultaneously understanding that it is mythology, not history?
Personally I find plenty of good "meanings" to many of the stories, passages, parables etc in the Bible, as well as some history of the world (and humanity in it's darker times as well, which is a bit different from just mythology!!)

Guess that's why I have a hard time understanding why anyone would simply want to try and "ruin" whatever harmless GOOD others can gain for themselves from reading it.

Thank God, we do not live in a communisTic nation of censorship!!
TheMirrorBackatY ou

United States

#96703 Mar 20, 2013
-NEPHILIM- wrote:
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OK then, don't quote your source but at least try to post under the same name. People that use multiple accounts are never up to any good.
Idiot.
I don't have multiple accounts, I can switch on demand.

What part of the linked source did you NOT comprehend?
TheMirrorBackatY ou

United States

#96704 Mar 20, 2013
-NEPHILIM- wrote:
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OK then, don't quote your source but at least try to post under the same name. People that use multiple accounts are never up to any good.
Idiot.
The LIVING Word Library.

Kind of a NON-denominational thing.

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#96705 Mar 20, 2013
Lets try this again-read slowwwwwly now.....
1. I didn't create any God. I just read the book, written by mostly men,
And its just that a book written BY MAN not so called GOD... and if he was ""real"" and he created us"" then why do you think were not all programed to believe so... answer your gonna give me is faith and free will but come on if that book you cherish so much was to tell us its OK to lets say kill your kid or your wife or husband then dose it ? HELL NO... its just a F UCKing book that dosnt mean crap it was one persons ideal of how the human race should live becuse man needs some thing to hold on to that was it a book ... That ppl force on there kids that's a joke
NephilimThinksYo ureDumb

Somerset, KY

#96706 Mar 20, 2013
TheMirrorBackatYou wrote:
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The LIVING Word Library.
Kind of a NON-denominational thing.
You're right, post as you please.
Blahblahblah

United States

#96707 Mar 20, 2013
ImSureYouKnowMe wrote:
Lets try this again-read slowwwwwly now.....
1. I didn't create any God. I just read the book, written by mostly men,
And its just that a book written BY MAN not so called GOD... and if he was ""real"" and he created us"" then why do you think were not all programed to believe so... answer your gonna give me is faith and free will but come on if that book you cherish so much was to tell us its OK to lets say kill your kid or your wife or husband then dose it ? HELL NO... its just a F UCKing book that dosnt mean crap it was one persons ideal of how the human race should live becuse man needs some thing to hold on to that was it a book ... That ppl force on there kids that's a joke
I like my description better with out all those cuss words and that negativity crappola.

Suggestion, You might learn something a little more worthwhile by picking up a dictionary.

And maybe just stick to trying to comprehend some of the few commandements first.

They're pretty implicit about physically hurting others intentionally...as in thou shalt NOT.

If you choose not believe in a creator, if you choose not to see beauty and choose to dwell on ugliness, that's your choice. But you do not have the right to ruin such for others, and really there's no need to be so offensive to others that mean no harm.

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