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Bible study rules for public schools proposed

There are 153596 comments on the The Courier-Journal story from Feb 10, 2010, titled Bible study rules for public schools proposed. In it, The Courier-Journal reports that:

FRANKFORT, Ky. - The state would create rules for teaching about the Bible in public high schools under a bill filed Monday by three Democratic senators.

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#96569 Mar 19, 2013
Leaving the Light On wrote:
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Leviticus 20:13
13 If a man lies with a male as he lies with a woman, both of them have committed an abomination. They shall surely be put to death. Their blood shall be upon them.
Hebrews 10

The Just Live by Faith

26 For if we sin willfully after we have received the knowledge of the truth, there no longer remains a sacrifice for sins,

“See how you are?”

Since: Jul 12

Earth

#96570 Mar 19, 2013
happy wrote:
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Rev 22:18,19
For I testify to everyone who hears the words of the prophesy of this book: if anyone adds to these things,God will add to him the plagues that are written in this book. 19) and if anyone takes away from the words of the book of this prophesy, God shall take away his part from the Book of Life, from the Holy City, and from the things which are written in this book.
Interesting and ironic. No additions beyond the Christ's gospel? Well, in the first place, there's no record that Jesus wrote ANYTHING. Revelations was written by John of Patmos - a guy who never met Jesus (and neither did Saul) and had no known credentials, but there's his book added to all the rest. Then people rant and rail for it over a hundred other writings that hold the same degree of authority. Nods to Moroni - Sic 'em!.
Blahblahblah

Hazard, KY

#96571 Mar 19, 2013
Leaving the Light On wrote:
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Hebrews 10
The Just Live by Faith
26 For if we sin willfully after we have received the knowledge of the truth, there no longer remains a sacrifice for sins,
Aint no ones business what others do/worship/eat/sing/talk to/type to/dream about/tinker with/wear or whatEver else anyway, so long as they aren't hurting anyone else.

Just like IGNORANCE is NO EXCUSE for the HYPOCRICY of ANYONE who thinks they're own poopoo stuff stinks any less than anyone elses!

Reading some of these posts over the months, that ol'(reference) "Peyton Place" has Nothing up on on this thread!!

This is civilized 21st century AMERICA, NOT some dark age, stone-age land of barbarians!!!

And SOME people (ie: HATE spreaders-no matter the race,creed, NON-creed or color)need to straighten the hell up, GROW UP and act like it.

Shame on THEM-hate inciters of any kind!
TheDogWarden

Hazard, KY

#96572 Mar 19, 2013
ChromiuMan wrote:
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Interesting and ironic. No additions beyond the Christ's gospel? Well, in the first place, there's no record that Jesus wrote ANYTHING. Revelations was written by John of Patmos - a guy who never met Jesus (and neither did Saul) and had no known credentials, but there's his book added to all the rest. Then people rant and rail for it over a hundred other writings that hold the same degree of authority. Nods to Moroni - Sic 'em!.
You gotta leash for that mutt mister? It oughta not let yew run free.

“See how you are?”

Since: Jul 12

Earth

#96573 Mar 19, 2013
TheDogWarden wrote:
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You gotta leash for that mutt mister? It oughta not let yew run free.
It not let me run free?
Yeah, that's the point again, isn't it? Ifn someone don't go to YOUR church, he ain't got no REEL relatians with God. Mebee my kind otter be locked up on some kinda island somewers.
PREVIOUS PATIENT AT KDMC

Nicholasville, KY

#96574 Mar 19, 2013
-NEPHILIM- wrote:
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How is pointing out the crazy things Christians do in the name of their God attacking Christians? If I point out the crazy things Obama has done is that me attacking the United States? Yeah the JWs have changed the bible somewhat but they still consider themselves Christians and their bible still contain stories of a Jealous God that kills billions of people.
You say the people that raised me will have to answer for their actions but why should they be punished for doing something they thought their bible told them to do? They didn't raise me that way because they were mean people, they did it because the bible told them to.
I have no problem with a person's personal beliefs as long as it doesn't hurt their children. I have a problem with organized religion because the larger the group, the more they try and enforce their beliefs on others.
I'm sorry you feel this way, but, YOU were the one who said you hated Christians because of the way you were raised by your Christian parents. You agreed with me that JW's changed the original Bible, to write it to their beliefs. I'm not trying to ENFORCE you to believe the way I do, just SHARING my beliefs! My KJV version does tell me though, to take away or add to God's Word is wrong! My Bible tells me to NOT hurt the children. Thank you for your comment & for listening to mine!!
Blahblahblah

Hazard, KY

#96575 Mar 19, 2013
ChromiuMan wrote:
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It not let me run free?
Yeah, that's the point again, isn't it? Ifn someone don't go to YOUR church, he ain't got no REEL relatians with God. Mebee my kind otter be locked up on some kinda island somewers.
I think peoples relationship with their God, are PERSONAL.

I don't go to church, but I that doesn't mean I don't know the God in my heart!

So there.

“Question, Explore, Discover”

Since: Dec 11

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#96576 Mar 19, 2013
Skeptical Spectacles wrote:
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I honestly have no idea what you're saying here
I can translate what he said:

"Blah, blah blah. Nanny boo boo. Nanny boo poo."

(It's the standard reply to evidence that hurts Baby Jesus.)
happy

Louisville, KY

#96577 Mar 19, 2013
When someone breaks into your home how many are going to grab a gun and pray for help? When you are about to slam into another car what thoughts do you have? Do you say OMG? When you are about to slam into a car and it DOESN'T happen? Who stopped it? I have miracle after miracle that you could try and explain away but I know and others who have experienced them know exactly what I'm talking about and that their is certainly a God.
If you ...choose... Free will... A Choice... To deny Him... It's certainly your choice ...but it will also be your biggest loss..(best love you can ever know) and your last regret...
happy

Louisville, KY

#96578 Mar 19, 2013
Satanic Priest wrote:
<quoted text>Matthew 19:21 Jesus said unto him, If thou wilt be perfect, go and sell that thou hast, and give to the poor, and thou shalt have treasure in heaven: and come and follow me.
PRACTICE WHAT YOU PREACH!
?????? Hello? Honey I'm far far from perfect but I am forgiven! PRAISE GOD PRAISE GOD PRAISE GOD and I KNOW what I was RESCUED from and ill continue to PRAISE PRAISE PRAISE MY GOD whoop whoop WHOO hoo. I LOVE YOU JESUS JESUS JESUS JESUS JESUS there'd nothing like that name JESUS
Known Fact

Cape Canaveral, FL

#96579 Mar 19, 2013
wow wrote:
weel now thats hunky dorey.... only in print is the
untruth on religion the scientist have proven evolution is a fcat. when u so call believers wake up u will be in the dark
You know good and well that is not true! If evolution was a proven fact they would be so quick to state that and produce the evidevce so it could be called a proven FACT instead of a THEORY!
Here is your opportunity to produce the FACTS!
PREVIOUS PATIENT AT KDMC

Nicholasville, KY

#96580 Mar 19, 2013
Satanic Priest wrote:
<quoted text>I am aware that there are church people and there are christians. I use the term christian cult to separate them from people who really believe in their god and try to live by their beliefs.
I do not believe in the Jewish version of god nor the christian model from the Jewish version.
Everything is energy, frequency, and vibration.(Tesla)
Christianity is not only following God's Word, but, having a PERSONAL relationship with Jesus! IF you profess to be a Christian & DO NOT HAVE OR SHOW LOVE, then you are not as you say! God expects Christians to KEEP His Ten Commandments, but, above ALL, Jesus says the Greatest Command is to LOVE!! Thank you again for listening to me, but please know that Jesus is LOVE & Not HATE! Not pushing my beliefs on you, only trying to explain why I LOVE GOD & HIS WORD! May God Bless You Abundently!
GWB

Rancho Cordova, CA

#96581 Mar 19, 2013
Leaving the Light On wrote:
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Hebrews 10
The Just Live by Faith
26 For if we sin willfully after we have received the knowledge of the truth, there no longer remains a sacrifice for sins,
Verse 26 demostrates a problem with understanding the bible. First one would have to know they have received the true knowledge of bilical truth. How would you qualify truth?

Then why would one repent if he did sin after having knowledge of the truth? If you willfully had gotten drunk you would not be forgiven, so why repent?
happy

Louisville, KY

#96582 Mar 19, 2013
Satanic Priest wrote:
<quoted text>I thought that we are not under the law but under grace. The old testament laws do not apply, or is it a sin to eat pork and shellfish? HMMM? Picking and choosing from the bible and making things up as you go along just proves that your god is not real and you do not believe that the bible is the word of god.
You know the scriptures pretty well
It seems. So who hurt you? It had to be a person. People will always always let you down. Especially if you have them on a pedestal or it was someone you trusted maybe... GOD will/would never hurt you. He cares about your concerns. He would never never never leave you or forsake you. Satan HATES hates hates you. Even with you serving him.. He HATES YOU. He's using you ..
JESUS I ask for a hedge of protection around this person and that you would show him the light in whatever form you deem necessary to bring this child in I plead the BLOOD of Jesus all around him for protection and that they might come to know the true power of your LOVE in Jesus name .. That they would feel your HOLY presence. Thank You Father for saving me from the pits of hell. You are my rescuer. My salvation. In Jesus name i pray Amen

“There is no god.”

Since: Jan 12

USA

#96583 Mar 19, 2013
"Creationists make it sound like a ‘theory’ is something you dreamt up after being drunk all night."

happy

Louisville, KY

#96584 Mar 19, 2013
ChromiuMan wrote:
<quoted text>Interesting and ironic. No additions beyond the Christ's gospel? Well, in the first place, there's no record that Jesus wrote ANYTHING. Revelations was written by John of Patmos - a guy who never met Jesus (and neither did Saul) and had no known credentials, but there's his book added to all the rest. Then people rant and rail for it over a hundred other writings that hold the same degree of authority. Nods to Moroni - Sic 'em!.
Oh please please please Deny child deny. Ill keep reaping the benefits of being a child of God. Born again. Rescued and peaceful and yes happy. Miracle after miracle after miracle. Peace in trials and oh yes I have trials. I grow stronger thru each and my faith and trust grows that much stronger and my love. I don't fear you or your type or hate you. I have been where you are. I would never ever never ever turn my back on my GOD. I will share my faith till I die because of what my God gas done for me if HE never did another thing for me...

“Question, Explore, Discover”

Since: Dec 11

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#96585 Mar 19, 2013
do whut wrote:
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Doesn't work well on the iPhone either.
Yes I can see how it could be offensive to Non-Mormons because they don't understand that it doesn't make them Mormon, it just gives them the opportunity to accept it. Otherwise, it means nothing. I'm in that situation now.
We are urged to only do work for people in our own geneaology to avoid offending others. We believe in the sealing powers that last beyond the graves. We believe it is God's will to link all generations together all the way back to Adam, so the practice would never be denounced. But as I said, you will have the right to choose to accept it or not, just like you have the right to do it on your own now.
As for the Book of Abraham, I don't believe that statement is accurate. There were sources that were close friends with the prophet that said he put aside the scrolls that were not pertinent to the work he was called to do. We know for sure there was a lot of junk in the lot that he bought, so not all of it was important.
Reformed Egyptian was what the people of the Book of Mormon called their langueage, which they said admittedly changed over the years from what their ancestors used. The original plates were abridged by Mormon and his son Moroni, some of which, hundreds of years after they were written. So it seems possible to me that the language could have been completely different by then. They didn't have formal schools then.
I look at how things could happen. As I said, if Christians like myself can believe the things in the Bible (especially Old Testament) happened, then the things that happened with the Book of Mormon are certainly believable.
I realize that this isn't an argument for someone that doesn't believe the Bible isn't true, you don't have to remind me. I'm aware. I'm just comparing.
I would not trust Mormon sources on this story. The LDS has a long history of distorting the truth to avoid embarrassment, including the Book of Abraham.

The story is, as I have heard it from various non-Mormon (historical) sources, that Smith was reluctant to do the translation (because he couldn't) and it was later quite easily shown to be incorrect.

I can understand Mormons wanting to minimize the damage this failure did to their church by embracing all possible alternatives.

We are not going to see this the same way. I've read bits and pieces of the Book of Mormon and I find it tedious and dull. The stories are not interesting and they certainly lack any shred of evidence toward their truth. I accept the Jewish Bible as mythology and early literature. I accept the New Testament as newer mythology and literature. Neither are very good, really. But they are very important.

I find the Book of Mormon to be an interesting modern invention. I do not think it is very well written, nor do I find it to be very important in the long run.

Have fun with it, I simply have no use for it.

But I will continue to argue against the LDS as long as Mormons do things like promote Prop 8 and maintain a misogynistic worldview. Such cultures are ugly in the light of the modern era and will shrivel under criticism. I think in time the LDS will either evolve into a toothless, vanilla Christian sect that is in line with changing social norms or it will shrink and become a magnet for crazy people.

For what its worth, you are a polite person to argue with. I have no ill will toward you. I just find your religion to be offensive and kooky. Like all the others, really.

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Since: Dec 11

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#96586 Mar 19, 2013
do whut wrote:
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If you repeat the crime, then repentance never happened, as I described before.
I don't subscribe to a religion that believes works are not important. The scriptures say faith without works is dead. Works alone do not provide salvation, but faith without works means there never was really faith.
I hope this helps you understand my stance.
And that is merely what your particular faith teaches. It is not what other faiths teach, using the same book.

John Calvin said that your works, no matter how great, are depraved. Otherwise a human could begin to aspire to be perfect like God. He found this notion utterly incoherent. Instead, you must simply have faith that God grants you grace. The works you do would be outward signs that perhaps you do have that faith.

Or something very much like that.

My point is that the actions of a man cannot impact the actions of God, otherwise a man has some kind of power to move God. This is the view of a huge portion of Protestant faiths. So a man could indeed rape again and again and end up going to Heaven, according to many faiths. It is merely an application of their own logic. Otherwise a man's actions can move God, which means God is slightly less than all powerful.

And since the Bible supplies so many passages of often conflicting natures you could literally tease any kind of theology you want to out of.

What makes the LDS correct? What makes Baptists wrong? What makes Hindus wrong? And if they are all correct, why bother?

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#96587 Mar 19, 2013
Known Fact wrote:
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You show no scriptures to support your suposition only faulty religious beliefs.
You could use a serious Bible study with Jehovah's Witnesses to clear away all the nonsense you THINK the Bible teaches. You would be surprised at what the TRUTH can do for you, John 8:31,32 And so Jesus went on to say to the Jews that had believed him:“If YOU remain in my word, YOU are really my disciples, 32 and YOU will know the truth, and the truth will set YOU free
You labor under the assumption that other people find Bible verses to be compelling too. I do not.

I have studied the Bible, casually. I have a working understanding of Christian theologies, though certainly not perfect or comprehensive. Clearly my worldview is rooted in naturalism, not faith.

We shall have to simply disagree on this matter.
tbone

Clay City, KY

#96589 Mar 19, 2013
Jesus love,s the little children

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