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Bible study rules for public schools proposed

There are 142404 comments on the The Courier-Journal story from Feb 10, 2010, titled Bible study rules for public schools proposed. In it, The Courier-Journal reports that:

FRANKFORT, Ky. - The state would create rules for teaching about the Bible in public high schools under a bill filed Monday by three Democratic senators.

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known truth

United States

#96389 Mar 18, 2013
Build truth for guuidance

Since: Jan 13

Lexington, KY

#96390 Mar 18, 2013
Blahblahblah wrote:
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Just because one has a book FULL of many recipes, does NOT mean one would follow each recipe, in sequence, or even in exact suggested ingredients, or measured amounts.
Using this analogy, this made me think of something. If I follow a recipe from a cookbook, that would not make me a cook. So, for people who only read and use certain parts of the Bible, how can they say they are a Christian?

“See how you are?”

Since: Jul 12

Earth

#96391 Mar 18, 2013
do whut wrote:
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We don't know anything about Kolob other than it is a planet close to God. Sorry, I wish I knew more.
Will I be a god? Jesus said we are all gods. He reminded His disciples of that Psalm while on earth. It doesn't mean we are greater than God. We are subject to Him. But it makes sense if we are children of God and we are supposed to inherit all that He has, then we would grow up to be like Him in the eternities.
Most of the revelations that Joseph received (or any prophet) was after they thought about things themselves and asked in prayer.
I politely disagree because I find the overwhelming bulk of your theology to be inslutingly inintelligent.

Since: Aug 10

Location hidden

#96392 Mar 18, 2013
Yiago wrote:
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I just had a good conversation about this last night with an old friend.
I think that if you believe something then that's ok with me. I don't really care. Until your belief seeps into the public life that we all have to live. Then it becomes my concern.
I don't want my country or planet to be full of stupid people. If you think teaching Creationism as science, for example, is a good idea and you vote for people who tend to agree with you on that...then your beliefs are very important to me. It affects me, my kids, and my world. The dumber my neighbor the lower the overall quality of life will be.
I want every kid to grow up critical and sharp as a tack. I want my tax dollars to fund public education that teaches critical thinking at every step. I want my children to be able to tell the difference between what is genuine and what is fraudulent. I want them to be able to evaluate things and make rational, mindful decisions about those things based on evidence and good, solid moral instincts.
So I don't really care what the cabin-dwelling isolationist thinks about God. But I do care what the voting Fundamentalist thinks.
I don't like to be mean to people. And sometimes telling the truth about reality strikes people as mean. You have to know when to talk about it and when to let things go. I usually don't engage that much face to face, unless it is something egregious like an anti-vaccine nut or a Creationist. But online, on a forum...if you make your belief known then it is fair game! Gloves off, argumentation at the ready. Defend it or shut up.
Know what I mean?
lol
I'm in total agreement. The "faithful" friends I have are certainly not fundamentalists. They are progressive thinkers who support the separation of church and state, and respect science. They are just somehow capable of maintaining their faith at some level. How they can insulate that from reason and skepticism is a mystery to me. I push (usually when we're drinking together) but not too hard. It's an emotional security blanket for them and I usually get to a point where I ask myself "who am I to take this away from them"?

Now, as for the zealots who:
oppose reason,
oppose the separation clause in the first amendment,
want to re-write classroom history books to make our founding
fathers more "Christian" and other educational atrocities,
support leaders that make decisions based on religious dogma
instead of rational thought,
want to use my tax dollars to fund their religious shenanigans,
try to convert me, my family, and my friends to their cult,
Yeah....screw 'em and their sensitivities.

Since: Aug 10

Location hidden

#96393 Mar 18, 2013
known truth wrote:
Build truth for guuidance
and use spellchecker for accuracy

“There is no god”

Since: Jul 12

War, WV

#96394 Mar 18, 2013
Quantummist wrote:
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Not true on the "Humans are the Only Animals that kill for fun"... Many animals chase, catch and kill other animals just to leave them when they stop flopping around... Mainly Cats and Dogs both wild and domestic... Dolphins have been seen to play with fish for long periods and then kill them and let them fall to the bottom and go find a new one to play with till it's dead...
I meant of the same species. I should have been more specific
Blahblahblah

Manchester, KY

#96395 Mar 18, 2013
LittleQueen wrote:
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Using this analogy, this made me think of something. If I follow a recipe from a cookbook, that would not make me a cook. So, for people who only read and use certain parts of the Bible, how can they say they are a Christian?
The same way that for some that do follow some recipes, then could be considered as cooks, being as most cooks learned from recipes, but not necessarily all from the same book.

Besides, the actions thereof speak louder than any labelduhm labels anyway, and some recipes are just better than others.
Yes and Amen

Richmond, KY

#96396 Mar 18, 2013
sickening wrote:
I agree that people came from Creation and not an ape. How absurd. People can believe they came from an animal but can't believe that there is a God who is quite capable of EVERYTHING.
HOWEVER....I do believe there are many people who were CREATED from jackasses.
I'm living proof there is a God....you want proof....take a breath.....there ya go!
Amen!

“Speaker of Mountain Wisdom....”

Since: Jan 10

Manchester, KY

#96397 Mar 18, 2013
Satanic Priest wrote:
<quoted text>I meant of the same species. I should have been more specific
I can't even say I agree with that... The Vast Majority of Human killing Humans is for survival if even for presumed survival such as shooting someone during a robbery and such.... The act of murder just for the thrill happens with some very few humans but there are also a small percentage of that kill their own for the thrill of the kill. I have personally watched a group of dogs chase and kill another dog that was of no threat... I have seen cats kill kittens... In the greater wild I would venture there are Individual animals that kill other of their species just for the thrill of the kill also but the percentages are small just as with Humans, It's just that they don't have the press coverage... Birds are another example of where while a large group will play nice together, now and then there will come along a individual that will peck the eyes out and kill others in the crowd... Chickens are notorious for killing other chickens in the flock and is why Cock Fighting works out the way it does... Rosters will fight about anything they can lay a spur into and if they can kill another chicken they will dance around and crow at the top of the lungs...
Yes and Amen

Richmond, KY

#96399 Mar 18, 2013
happy wrote:
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How did the Universe Begin? Dr. William Lane Craig
The case for a Creator Dr. Lee Strobel
Darwin or Design Paul A. Nelson
How Biology Points Toward God
Dr. Raymind Bolin
To give a few....
Amen!
But you know why they will not "Believe" anything that
does not jive with their views...
I wish they would!
Yes and Amen

Richmond, KY

#96400 Mar 18, 2013
happy wrote:
"Scientifically speaking, it's far more probable for a life prohibiting universe to exist rather than a LIFE SUSTAINING one. Life is balanced on a RAZORS edge."
"If you are Sincerely SEEKING God, He will make His existence evident to
YOU."
William Lane Craig
Amen!
It's like 128^10th power Against just the protines
of DNA coming together, But WAIT!
Give it a couple of BILLION years, and Space Aliens...
Don't forget the "Space Aliens"...
And they Think we're crazy... LOL
God Bless :-)
Yes and Amen

Richmond, KY

#96401 Mar 18, 2013
Skeptical Spectacles wrote:
<quoted text>
Really? The why did you ask about evolving from monkeys?
Because the evilutionary chart is STILL used in schools...
Along with every other Godless lie!
Yes and Amen

Richmond, KY

#96402 Mar 18, 2013
Quantummist wrote:
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The only caveat I would add is that Rational people don't "Except" evolution as to me that that to the religious folks sounds like their mindset of "Belief"... Just Except the bible or some other text as the Word of God and we will all be Believers... I think rational people Understand the concept of Evolution and question it on an ongoing basis changing that understanding as new evidence is presented and verified.. Even the Scientific community falls prey to Excepting a view at times and allow it to become dogma then refuse to even consider new evidence or question old dogmatic views.. It many cases what is claimed as science is just as Belief based as any religion....
"It many cases what is claimed as science is just as Belief based as any religion"
See... you are smart on many things!
I thank God He proved Himself to me!
Amen!
Yes and Amen

Richmond, KY

#96403 Mar 18, 2013
youtube wrote:
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100% PROOF Pope Francis is ANTICHRIST______
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v =moaXuWJryu8XX
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Interesting...
As I've seen an old VHS tape on this subject 12 years ago.
Saying that this pope would be him/it!
Keep an eye on him!
Yes and Amen

Richmond, KY

#96404 Mar 18, 2013
Satanic Priest wrote:
<quoted text>This comment is proof that the christian cult brain washes its sheep
God showed up and saved me...
Showed me how satan was brainwashing me...
I was lost, now I'm redeemed!
I hope that happens to you "AND" yours!

Since: Aug 10

Location hidden

#96405 Mar 18, 2013
Yes and Amen wrote:
<quoted text>"Your amusement is based on ignorance"
No... it's not!
Yeah, I'm pretty sure it is.
Yes and Amen wrote:
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It's based on your ignorance!
Going with the "I know you are, but what am I? Nanner nanner nanner" argument eh? Brilliant, I'm not looking to debate this with a child.
Yes and Amen wrote:
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We Know we were created, and ...
I understand that you have strong feelings about this, but having long held beliefs is not the same as knowing something.

How do you account for the mountain of evidence in support of evolution? What do you make of the fossil record? A hoax by the devil maybe? Or maybe it's a trap made by your bi-polar old testament god to fool us non-believers...
Yes and Amen

Richmond, KY

#96406 Mar 18, 2013
Satanic Priest wrote:
<quoted text>I am the Priest at Alva Satanic church. We do not demand that our members blindly believe anything, we do not tell them they can only associate with other members like the christians do. That is the difference between us and you (oh we do hate christians)
With every post...
You still prove the Bible true!
Thanks again!
Yes and Amen

Richmond, KY

#96407 Mar 18, 2013
Quantummist wrote:
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Not true on the "Humans are the Only Animals that kill for fun"... Many animals chase, catch and kill other animals just to leave them when they stop flopping around... Mainly Cats and Dogs both wild and domestic... Dolphins have been seen to play with fish for long periods and then kill them and let them fall to the bottom and go find a new one to play with till it's dead...
Had a cat once...
Kept teasing the dogs on the other side of the fence...
I opened the gate one day, to the cats surprise...
The dog played with it ALL day!
I think I feel more for animals stuck in cages...
?

Since: Aug 10

Location hidden

#96408 Mar 18, 2013
Yes and Amen wrote:
<quoted text>"It many cases what is claimed as science is just as Belief based as any religion"
See... you are smart on many things!
I thank God He proved Himself to me!
Amen!
So, he said that at times "scientists" can behave as stupidly as the religious. And you see this as reaffirming?

Maybe I'm wrong but I think you missed his point.

Since: Aug 10

Location hidden

#96409 Mar 18, 2013
Yes and Amen wrote:
<quoted text>...
I think I feel more for animals stuck in cages...
And yet, you happily imprison the mind.

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