Bible study rules for public schools ...

Bible study rules for public schools proposed

There are 156562 comments on the The Courier-Journal story from Feb 10, 2010, titled Bible study rules for public schools proposed. In it, The Courier-Journal reports that:

FRANKFORT, Ky. - The state would create rules for teaching about the Bible in public high schools under a bill filed Monday by three Democratic senators.

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“CO2 is Gaseous Love”

Since: Dec 08

Home, sweet home.

#96066 Mar 13, 2013
They don't want Bible study in public schools because they prefer we teach leftist propaganda.
Nutcases

Manchester, KY

#96068 Mar 13, 2013
what wrote:
<quoted text>
very true, and a pedophile rapist can say i believe and go to heaven, so just imagine what kind of place u are goin to, not good ppl or god, but self induced slavery to a god that is vain and cruel. if he killed his son so man could be forgiven should show u the sickness of your religion to start when if god was the almighty he could have just said, u know what? i just forgive u all and we dont have to torture and kill anyone for that to happen.
How anyone could derive "God did it" when it was obviously hatred of that which was different, followed by thevile condemnation amongst herd packs, is beyond rational logic (as in SIC)

Crucifixion of Jesus Christ - Story Summary:

The Jewish high priests and elders of the Sanhedrin accused Jesus of blasphemy, arriving at the decision to put him to death. But first they needed Rome to approve of their death sentence, so Jesus was taken to Pontius Pilate, the Roman governor in Judea. Although Pilate found him innocent, unable to find or even contrive a reason to condemn Jesus, he feared the crowds and let them decide Jesus' fate. Stirred by the Jewish chief priests, the crowds declared, "Crucify him!"

Vile condemnation derived of hatred amongst the people, crucified Jesus, not any "God".

Hatred is never a good thing.
so true

New Haven, KY

#96070 Mar 13, 2013
The most important thing
you leave behind is the stuff that turns into treasures
when children find it.
Good Day all....
haha

Hyden, KY

#96071 Mar 13, 2013
Nutcases wrote:
<quoted text>How anyone could derive "God did it" when it was obviously hatred of that which was different, followed by thevile condemnation amongst herd packs, is beyond rational logic (as in SIC)

Crucifixion of Jesus Christ - Story Summary:

The Jewish high priests and elders of the Sanhedrin accused Jesus of blasphemy, arriving at the decision to put him to death. But first they needed Rome to approve of their death sentence, so Jesus was taken to Pontius Pilate, the Roman governor in Judea. Although Pilate found him innocent, unable to find or even contrive a reason to condemn Jesus, he feared the crowds and let them decide Jesus' fate. Stirred by the Jewish chief priests, the crowds declared, "Crucify him!"

Vile condemnation derived of hatred amongst the people, crucified Jesus, not any "God".

Hatred is never a good thing.
And now we have come full circle. In some places christians have been in the majority and fallen into the same kind of fear and hatred that killed Jesus in the story of the gospels. The crusades of the past. Uganda of the present. Attempts to hold back knowledge and ideas that do not follow their narrative throughout history.

Not that all Christians are that way, but it is both sad and fascinating how the persecuted can become the persecutor.

Satanic Priest

“There is no god”

Since: Jul 12

War, WV

#96073 Mar 13, 2013
Brian_G wrote:
They don't want Bible study in public schools because they prefer we teach leftist propaganda.
I notice that you did not respond to my post asking for a description of your gods character based on the bible.
I bet your god looks like a dollar bill

Satanic Priest

“There is no god”

Since: Jul 12

War, WV

#96074 Mar 13, 2013
Brian_G wrote:
They don't want Bible study in public schools because they prefer we teach leftist propaganda.
Jesus taught what you call leftist beliefs, have you ever read your bible?

Satanic Priest

“There is no god”

Since: Jul 12

War, WV

#96075 Mar 13, 2013
haha wrote:
<quoted text>
And now we have come full circle. In some places christians have been in the majority and fallen into the same kind of fear and hatred that killed Jesus in the story of the gospels. The crusades of the past. Uganda of the present. Attempts to hold back knowledge and ideas that do not follow their narrative throughout history.
Not that all Christians are that way, but it is both sad and fascinating how the persecuted can become the persecutor.
A person that is good of human nature will be good no matter what religion he/she follows.
I look at people who claim to follow Christ as ether Christian or the christian cult. Christian are good people who TRY to follow good teachings from what the bible claims Christ taught, the christian cult does not.
You do not need to believe in some god to be a good person
Lucky

United States

#96076 Mar 13, 2013
Worse for the US there is a reason to have seperation of church and State it's called Islamic Law!, and it's ( Islam) is the fastest growing religion in the US! Be careful what you ask for!
so true

New Haven, KY

#96077 Mar 13, 2013
I look at it this way , however we do not agree , this is the way I feel. I am the only one who can make myself a good person , and too some I am sure good will never be good enough , but all I can do is try. I see God in this way , you may see him in another , but we agree do disagree....

And A Meadowlark Sang
Ravindra Kumar Karnani


"The child whispered,'God, speak to me'
And a meadow lark sang.
The child did not hear.

So the child yelled,'God, speak to me!'
And the thunder rolled across the sky
But the child did not listen.

The child looked around and said,
'God let me see you' and a star shone brightly
But the child did not notice.

And the child shouted,
'God show me a miracle!'
And a life was born but the child did not know.

So the child cried out in despair,
'Touch me God, and let me know you are here!'
Whereupon God reached down
And touched the child.

But the child brushed the butterfly away
And walked away unknowingly."

Since: Jan 13

Lexington, KY

#96078 Mar 13, 2013
"A person that is good of human nature will be good no matter what religion he/she follows."

I agree with you 100%, Satanic Priest!

I don't think following a certain religion, be it
Christianity, Islam, Judaism, or whatever, guarantees that you will be a good person. It depends on how you are raised.

I think, if schools want to have a bible study, they should create a class that would study all faiths, so that kids can understand that their faith is not the only one that exists. They can also learn that many of the faiths have things in common, and hopefully this will lead them to be a little more understanding about people who believe differently from them.

Truthfully though, schools need to concentrate on the basics....mathematics, language arts, history, etc. You have kids who graduate from high school and can't write a complete sentence, or can't find North Korea on a map, or name any major world leader. No wonder we are so far behind other nations in these subjects.
haha

Hyden, KY

#96079 Mar 13, 2013
Satanic Priest wrote:
<quoted text>A person that is good of human nature will be good no matter what religion he/she follows.
I look at people who claim to follow Christ as ether Christian or the christian cult. Christian are good people who TRY to follow good teachings from what the bible claims Christ taught, the christian cult does not.
You do not need to believe in some god to be a good person
I agree completely! You can't make any assumptions about someone based on what religion they belong to. Everyone has a unique understanding of their own faith, their own reasons for their belief, and different motivations in general.

But when a group is in the majority or wields any sort of political influence, you see certain personality types become prevalent. Christians who believe their religion should be taught in public schools because they have a strong historic role and a simple majority are a great example.
haha

Hyden, KY

#96080 Mar 13, 2013
LittleQueen wrote:
Truthfully though, schools need to concentrate on the basics....mathematics, language arts, history, etc. You have kids who graduate from high school and can't write a complete sentence, or can't find North Korea on a map, or name any major world leader. No wonder we are so far behind other nations in these subjects.
This! I think religion is a very personal matter, and parents should teach their kids about it at home, or through church if they wish. Religion in schools, in any form other than how it applies to a history lesson, feels like social engineering to me.

As you said, our schools are behind globally. We should focus on critical thinking, problem solving, the math and language skills necessary to be productive, and verifiable fact. In short, skills and knowledge. Not ideologies.

“I'll think about it.”

Since: Nov 07

central Florida

#96081 Mar 13, 2013
LittleQueen wrote:
"A person that is good of human nature will be good no matter what religion he/she follows."
I agree with you 100%, Satanic Priest!
I don't think following a certain religion, be it
Christianity, Islam, Judaism, or whatever, guarantees that you will be a good person. It depends on how you are raised.
I think, if schools want to have a bible study, they should create a class that would study all faiths, so that kids can understand that their faith is not the only one that exists. They can also learn that many of the faiths have things in common, and hopefully this will lead them to be a little more understanding about people who believe differently from them.
Truthfully though, schools need to concentrate on the basics....mathematics, language arts, history, etc. You have kids who graduate from high school and can't write a complete sentence, or can't find North Korea on a map, or name any major world leader. No wonder we are so far behind other nations in these subjects.
Yes.
Kids should be taught HOW to think (fact gathering, deductive/inductive reasoning, critical thinking, and other mental skills)....not WHAT to think.

LEARNING is more than regurgitating lessons.

“See how you are?”

Since: Jul 12

Earth

#96082 Mar 13, 2013
Blahblahblah wrote:
<quoted text>
Obvioulsy, and to opinions of BIGOTRY.
But not really the right to harrass, stalk others, hamr others in anyway OR incite hatred.
This is 2013, there's laws against that kind of stupid now too.
Bigotry? Inciting hatred? You mean like homophobic preachers do?

I'd say the fundamentalists get hamred all the time in threads like this one.

Since: Jan 13

Lexington, KY

#96083 Mar 13, 2013
aWitchintheWoods wrote:
<quoted text>
Yes.
Kids should be taught HOW to think (fact gathering, deductive/inductive reasoning, critical thinking, and other mental skills)....not WHAT to think.
LEARNING is more than regurgitating lessons.
I totally agree!

“See how you are?”

Since: Jul 12

Earth

#96084 Mar 13, 2013
Lucky wrote:
Worse for the US there is a reason to have seperation of church and State it's called Islamic Law!, and it's ( Islam) is the fastest growing religion in the US! Be careful what you ask for!

Satanic Priest

“There is no god”

Since: Jul 12

War, WV

#96085 Mar 13, 2013
Lucky wrote:
Worse for the US there is a reason to have seperation of church and State it's called Islamic Law!, and it's ( Islam) is the fastest growing religion in the US! Be careful what you ask for!
When you resort to scare tactics you are proving that you do not have anything legit to say.
Oh, Islam is not the fastest growing religion in the U.S. More people are Pagan than any other religion

“See how you are?”

Since: Jul 12

Earth

#96086 Mar 13, 2013
Brian_G wrote:
They don't want Bible study in public schools because they prefer we teach leftist propaganda.
So the reason that the Bible isn't taught in public schools is because "they," the atheists who don't stand a snowball's chance in Hell of being elected to school boards or state legislatures, prohibit it in favor of having Communist Manifesto Study.
I see you're up to your regular standards for flawless analysis, Brain_D.
Blahblablah

Manchester, KY

#96087 Mar 13, 2013
ChromiuMan wrote:
<quoted text>
Bigotry? Inciting hatred? You mean like homophobic preachers do?
I'd say the fundamentalists get hamred all the time in threads like this one.
If the shoe fits...

Just that NON ignorant, NO idiots realize, those kinds of "shoes" are NOT exclusive to any herd pack mass, regardless of race, creed or color.

(IE aka: How tell nothing but bullchit hypocricy and/or bigotry from anyone that has some commons sense.)

“See how you are?”

Since: Jul 12

Earth

#96088 Mar 13, 2013
Satanic Priest wrote:
<quoted text>When you resort to scare tactics you are proving that you do not have anything legit to say.
Oh, Islam is not the fastest growing religion in the U.S. More people are Pagan than any other religion
I would argue that if you sort all the religies by type and origins, your true measure of the fastest growing group is to sweep them all up together again, vacuum the carpet and write "Idiocy" on the side of the bag.

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