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Bible study rules for public schools proposed

There are 156425 comments on the The Courier-Journal story from Feb 10, 2010, titled Bible study rules for public schools proposed. In it, The Courier-Journal reports that:

FRANKFORT, Ky. - The state would create rules for teaching about the Bible in public high schools under a bill filed Monday by three Democratic senators.

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Known Fact

Cape Canaveral, FL

#95842 Mar 7, 2013
2004 Haiti:
In mid-September, Hurricane Jeanne deluged northern Haiti, resulting in a devastating flood that engulfed the coastal town of Gonaïves and surrounding areas. Even people seeking refuge on rooftops ended up knee-deep in water!“All night we heard houses collapsing and people screaming,” says one brother. The flood claimed some 2,900 lives, including that of an 83-year-old sister.
Says one brother,“I thank Jehovah that our family left our possessions behind and survived.” A few days later, Witnesses from neighboring towns brought food and fresh water, and the branch distributed a truckload of supplies. Despite the work involved to clean up, by week’s end all were again attending Christian meetings and preaching.“Forty volunteers worked on my home for four days,” says a sister.“They even gave it a coat of paint! All of this impressed those in my family who are not Jehovah's Witnesses. One has since started studying.”
Known Fact

Cape Canaveral, FL

#95845 Mar 7, 2013
-NEPHILIM- wrote:
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They had to change their "this generation" teaching. Making you followers think that the end is coming at any moment makes them do dumb things. They kept their kids out of schools, they sold their homes and quit their jobs because they were told to spend every second and every dollar on going door to door and full time ministry work. Its crazy the control this group has over its members.
A lot of these JWs have been in for a long time and have family in and all their friends are JWs and if they don't do exactly what they are told to do then they will be kicked out and shunned. Non of their family or friends can even talk to them. Its a way to threaten their members into not leaving.
Its a dangerous cult. Anyone that has any interest in joining these people you need to do a little research on their history and don't believe what they tell you because they just repeat what they are told.
This is absolutely incorrect.....I have been one of Jehovah's Witnesses for over 40 years and can unequivocly say what you say is not true!

Rumors are carried by haters
Spread by fools
And accepted by idiots

“Speaker of Mountain Wisdom....”

Since: Jan 10

London, KY

#95847 Mar 7, 2013
ChromiuMan wrote:
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I could say "Touche," but I wouldn't mean it. I was obviously referring to "courageeous" Noah's flood and no other.
Do you find it at all interesting how difficult it is to get one from the faithful flocks to consider the Burckle event?


I find it interesting that so many of the faithful have no clue what rational, logical thought processes are.... But I digress...

I don't think the Burckle event is where our flood myths come from... I think there is good evidence of a 30 degree crustal shift around 20,000 years ago... As hypothesized by Charles Hapgood and supported by Einstein.... I think that is the time frame we see the genetic bottle neck as a time when a shift caused the destruction of 90% or more of human kind. No other explanation I have studied explains the speed of the melt of the Ice Age and why the North Polar Ice Cap only seems to have been over North America and not northern Europe at the same latitude ...

The Flooding, Tsunami's and Sea Rise if Hapgood was correct would have happened several times as huge lakes would form in the mile to 2 mile thick ice cap once moved to a 30 degree more southern latitude... As Ice dams broke these lakes would empty giving us flash carved land features such as the Bad Land and other wash features as the water headed for the sea... Dump a lake with the water of 20 to 30 Lake Michigan's into the world oceans and you have cities under water over night...

That scenario explains the mythologies, structures around the globe along with why we find maps that show Antarctica shore lines as Ice Free, flash frozen animals around the arctic polar regions, and speed of the North American Ice Sheet melt.... It also explains why there is a fascination during the early megalithic building period with stellar alignments and specific site placement of structures globally and why those structures used such large stone megaliths for their construction... Also why there are such similar construction techniques by long separated civilizations...

I come up with the 30 deg shift due to the alignment of several structures around the globe that produce a equatorial line that is 30 deg from our equator of today... I would suggest that survivors of such a shift from a previous global civilization would as soon as possible set about trying to make sense of what had happened and remap the planet using known base lines from before the event and attempting to re-establish civilization and passing along knowledge to other survivors... Most of whom would have reverted to stone aged hunter gathering bands within a generation of such an event...
Known Fact

Cape Canaveral, FL

#95850 Mar 7, 2013
-NEPHILIM- wrote:
<quoted text>
See, the JWs print stories like these in their publications just to make themselves look good. I did volunteer work when I was 14 years old when Hurricane Andrew blew in in South Florida. We got a few truck loads of supplies and building materials and went down to help. All we did was go to the houses that were fellow JWs and fix their house. There would be other people who lived there that would ask us for help, offer to pay us and pretty much just beg us to help put a tarp over their house so all their belongings wouldn't be destroyed. We were told not to help anyone that were not a baptized JW because we had to set a good witness on how we take care of our own.
I was 14 and I thought that was really selfish. It wouldn't have taken us a few minutes to help nail a tarp down or let someone use a ladder real quick to save their house but because they were not the same religion we were not allowed to help. Anytime you see the JWs bragging about helping out in disasters they only help themselves. It was like we thought we were better than the other people and they just needed to get their own church out there to fix it because we weren't helping.
Your post name says it all....Anyone who wants can research the name NEPHILIM. And it would be a good idea to look up the term APOSTATE!
Known Fact

Cape Canaveral, FL

#95851 Mar 7, 2013
United States: During August and September 2004, the state of Florida was pounded by four hurricanes: Charley, Frances, Ivan, and Jeanne. More than 4,300 homes of brothers and at least ten Kingdom Halls were damaged. In the aftermath, the chairman of Florida’s Emergency Operations Committee (EOC) checked to ensure that EOC supplies were being properly used. He said that no other group was as well organized as Jehovah’s Witnesses were. He told the relief committee that they could have whatever supplies they needed.
One congregation had been temporarily using a building that they rented for $50 a meeting. But this building also suffered damage when the first hurricane hit. Men were hired to make repairs, but they did not finish the work. Offering their services to the owners, the brothers received approval and promptly completed the job. In return, the owners waived the rent for three months.
the man

Frankfort, KY

#95852 Mar 7, 2013
awesome
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Cape Canaveral, FL

#95853 Mar 7, 2013
For anyone who does not know the word NEPHILIM are giants born to demons who cohabited with human women.
Increased Wickedness.“The mighty ones who were of old, the men of fame” that were produced by these marriages, were not men of fame with God, for they did not survive the Flood, as did Noah and his family. They were “Nephilim,” bullies, tyrants, who no doubt helped to make conditions worse. Their angelic fathers, knowing the construction of the human body and being able to materialize, were not creating life, but lived in these human bodies and, cohabiting with women, brought forth children. Their children,“mighty ones,” were therefore unauthorized hybrids. Apparently the Nephilim did not, in turn, have children.
The NEPHILIM are in reality ofspring of Satan!
That explains why they attack Jehovah's Witnesses!

“Speaker of Mountain Wisdom....”

Since: Jan 10

London, KY

#95854 Mar 7, 2013
Known Fact wrote:
For anyone who does not know the word NEPHILIM are giants born to demons who cohabited with human women.
Increased Wickedness.“The mighty ones who were of old, the men of fame” that were produced by these marriages, were not men of fame with God, for they did not survive the Flood, as did Noah and his family. They were “Nephilim,” bullies, tyrants, who no doubt helped to make conditions worse. Their angelic fathers, knowing the construction of the human body and being able to materialize, were not creating life, but lived in these human bodies and, cohabiting with women, brought forth children. Their children,“mighty ones,” were therefore unauthorized hybrids. Apparently the Nephilim did not, in turn, have children.
The NEPHILIM are in reality ofspring of Satan!
That explains why they attack Jehovah's Witnesses!
"Horsey Puckey Doo Doo" - Q
Known Fact

Cape Canaveral, FL

#95855 Mar 7, 2013
For those who may not know the use of the word APOSTATE: Here are some of the Bibles use of the word
Job 8:13
Thus are the pathways of all those forgetting God,
And the very hope of an apostate will perish.

Job 20:5
That the joyful cry of wicked people is short
And the rejoicing of an apostate is for a moment?

Job 36:13
And those apostate in heart will themselves lay up anger.

Proverbs 11:9
By [his] mouth the one who is an apostate brings his fellowman to ruin, but by knowledge are the righteous rescued.

“Question, Explore, Discover”

Since: Dec 11

Location hidden

#95856 Mar 8, 2013
Blahblahblah wrote:
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And if they travel to other nations and teach it in enlightenment, rather than in darkness and condmenation, they teach acceptance of the world as it IS, of others as they are, IMPERFECTIONS and all. Not as some imaginary place of perfection, OR as they would "wish it to be".
Because nothing or any one, is "perfect".
That is not what most Christian pastors and leaders teach. They teach that the Bible is perfect. So if the Bible says you can kill a witch, and if you already believe in witches because you are from a rather stone age culture, then guess what happens next?

You kill witches.

Any mission to Africa that includes Bibles is a bad mission. Go and give food, build shelters, help distribute vaccines and HIV meds. Don't distribute murder manuals.
Blahblahblah

East Bernstadt, KY

#95857 Mar 8, 2013
harpocrates wrote:
<quoted text>you need to see bout sum oil for that whine
Why thank you...ah believe ah shall. Heya, have an invitation to a nice vino garden party, to celebrates the arrival of spring, at the local parish of your choice, courtesy of the Nun Yobizness Order. We will be gathering worms for bait, for the upcoming trout season weanie roast.

See you there!
Blahblahblah

East Bernstadt, KY

#95858 Mar 8, 2013
Quantummist wrote:
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"Horsey Puckey Doo Doo" - Q
If there was a field of horse puckey doodoo, as manufactured by Clydesdales inhabiting such, could then the horse puckey doodoo of the same, be deemed as giant horse puckey doo doo, in relative comparasion to that of being manufactured by a herd Minature horses occypying the same field?

One would logically have to rationalize then, that indeed, the hypothesis of the existence of giant horse puckey doodoo could be relevant subjectively, would they not?

“See how you are?”

Since: Jul 12

Earth

#95859 Mar 8, 2013
Known Fact wrote:
For anyone who does not know the word NEPHILIM are giants born to demons who cohabited with human women.
Increased Wickedness.“The mighty ones who were of old, the men of fame” that were produced by these marriages, were not men of fame with God, for they did not survive the Flood, as did Noah and his family. They were “Nephilim,” bullies, tyrants, who no doubt helped to make conditions worse. Their angelic fathers, knowing the construction of the human body and being able to materialize, were not creating life, but lived in these human bodies and, cohabiting with women, brought forth children. Their children,“mighty ones,” were therefore unauthorized hybrids. Apparently the Nephilim did not, in turn, have children.
The NEPHILIM are in reality ofspring of Satan!
That explains why they attack Jehovah's Witnesses!
Nucking futz.
Blahblahblah

East Bernstadt, KY

#95860 Mar 8, 2013
Yiago wrote:
<quoted text>
That is not what most Christian pastors and leaders teach. They teach that the Bible is perfect. So if the Bible says you can kill a witch, and if you already believe in witches because you are from a rather stone age culture, then guess what happens next?
You kill witches.
Any mission to Africa that includes Bibles is a bad mission. Go and give food, build shelters, help distribute vaccines and HIV meds. Don't distribute murder manuals.
I personally would want to add ABC reading primers to the supplies list---WAYYYYY, way, way (and even long) before distributing any such book requiring so much more comprehension, than just the limited scope of basic word for word as read from the primers of, primary levels.
Would have to deny whatever those manuals of the haterisms of hatertics you are referencing too...at least until jr high level, at which such time, some Edgar Alan Poe short stories might be suitable reading level materials, for SOME (but probably not all) anyway! In an organized, non-chaotic, open classroom type of discussion evironment, where children learn, in the "big world" people have different interpretations and even different opinions(!) and such is allowable and even encouraged! Quite unlike the dark ages of narrow-minded ignorance and the herdpack culling of those who might've believed different!
Blahblahblah

East Bernstadt, KY

#95861 Mar 8, 2013
Quantummist wrote:
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"Horsey Puckey Doo Doo" - Q
an peas..ah bet you coulduh writ you a lil' ole diddy about a lil ol 'berg full o' plenty of hoespuckywhodoovoodoo an whineDUHM....

We could hanout flyers fer that too fer a show fer yew all lol...

“Question, Explore, Discover”

Since: Dec 11

Location hidden

#95862 Mar 8, 2013
Blahblahblah wrote:
<quoted text>
I personally would want to add ABC reading primers to the supplies list---WAYYYYY, way, way (and even long) before distributing any such book requiring so much more comprehension, than just the limited scope of basic word for word as read from the primers of, primary levels.
Would have to deny whatever those manuals of the haterisms of hatertics you are referencing too...at least until jr high level, at which such time, some Edgar Alan Poe short stories might be suitable reading level materials, for SOME (but probably not all) anyway! In an organized, non-chaotic, open classroom type of discussion evironment, where children learn, in the "big world" people have different interpretations and even different opinions(!) and such is allowable and even encouraged! Quite unlike the dark ages of narrow-minded ignorance and the herdpack culling of those who might've believed different!
I'm all about the books, man. All about the books.

Make comparative classes mandatory in Jr High and High School and watch people get smarter as a result. Looking back on my own school career I don't remember any kind of comparative education. Only by contrasting one idea against other ideas can we see how strong it is, I think. A comparative religion course would be the bees knees to a high school curriculum. And I guarantee the school that did it correctly would crank out fewer nutjobs who think Noah's Ark was a real boat.
Blahblahblah

East Bernstadt, KY

#95863 Mar 8, 2013
Yiago wrote:
<quoted text>
I'm all about the books, man. All about the books.
Make comparative classes mandatory in Jr High and High School and watch people get smarter as a result. Looking back on my own school career I don't remember any kind of comparative education. Only by contrasting one idea against other ideas can we see how strong it is, I think. A comparative religion course would be the bees knees to a high school curriculum. And I guarantee the school that did it correctly would crank out fewer nutjobs who think Noah's Ark was a real boat.
Only allowable (w/out cheating, as in under watchful eyes) via a mandatory pre-req critical thinking, reading comprehension, and ability to logic and reason test, as in able to discren, hell Noah mighta coulda had a couple FOUR boats during his lifetime (or not) for all we REALLY know. The ones buried with some o fdem dar Egyptian type pharoahs however, are little easier to ponder on, being as they are now visible to human eyes.
Thing that make ppl go hmmmm....why would egyption royalty see need for boats in the after life? What ever would put the need of such in mind? Was the desert always just sand...or were they rich, lush and fertile lands at one time.... Where in Mesopotamia is that four rivers once conjoined to a larger body of water? Could that have possibly been referenced as elsewise historically....

That should fill up Alex's Jeopardy board for the day lol.

“See how you are?”

Since: Jul 12

Earth

#95864 Mar 8, 2013
Known Fact wrote:
United States: During August and September 2004, the state of Florida was pounded by four hurricanes: Charley, Frances, Ivan, and Jeanne. More than 4,300 homes of brothers and at least ten Kingdom Halls were damaged. In the aftermath, the chairman of Florida’s Emergency Operations Committee (EOC) checked to ensure that EOC supplies were being properly used. He said that no other group was as well organized as Jehovah’s Witnesses were. He told the relief committee that they could have whatever supplies they needed.
One congregation had been temporarily using a building that they rented for $50 a meeting. But this building also suffered damage when the first hurricane hit. Men were hired to make repairs, but they did not finish the work. Offering their services to the owners, the brothers received approval and promptly completed the job. In return, the owners waived the rent for three months.
So the JWs used EOC supplies in rebuilding kingdom halls... Interesting. I wonder how many other tax exempt churches we paid for repairs on? What a patriotic and honorable use of taxpayer funds. I certainly would be interested to learn God fearing man Gov. Christ appointed as the EOC chair.

“Question, Explore, Discover”

Since: Dec 11

Location hidden

#95865 Mar 8, 2013
Blahblahblah wrote:
<quoted text>
Only allowable (w/out cheating, as in under watchful eyes) via a mandatory pre-req critical thinking, reading comprehension, and ability to logic and reason test, as in able to discren, hell Noah mighta coulda had a couple FOUR boats during his lifetime (or not) for all we REALLY know. The ones buried with some o fdem dar Egyptian type pharoahs however, are little easier to ponder on, being as they are now visible to human eyes.
Thing that make ppl go hmmmm....why would egyption royalty see need for boats in the after life? What ever would put the need of such in mind? Was the desert always just sand...or were they rich, lush and fertile lands at one time.... Where in Mesopotamia is that four rivers once conjoined to a larger body of water? Could that have possibly been referenced as elsewise historically....
That should fill up Alex's Jeopardy board for the day lol.
I see no reason to assume Noah was a real person at all. Let alone how many boats he had, lol. He's a figure in an old story, and not an original story either. The Epic of Gilgamesh had nearly the exact same story.

The Nile is a big river, and it was the highway of the Egyptians. Lots of boats. Makes sense if you believe in an afterlife and want to continue to be rich and powerful...need a boat.
hiphiphooray

Middlesboro, KY

#95866 Mar 8, 2013
Yiago wrote:
<quoted text>
I see no reason to assume Noah was a real person at all. Let alone how many boats he had, lol. He's a figure in an old story, and not an original story either. The Epic of Gilgamesh had nearly the exact same story.
The Nile is a big river, and it was the highway of the Egyptians. Lots of boats. Makes sense if you believe in an afterlife and want to continue to be rich and powerful...need a boat.
similiar storyline from hinduism regarding manu

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Manu_%28Hinduism...

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