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Bible study rules for public schools proposed

There are 156592 comments on the The Courier-Journal story from Feb 10, 2010, titled Bible study rules for public schools proposed. In it, The Courier-Journal reports that:

FRANKFORT, Ky. - The state would create rules for teaching about the Bible in public high schools under a bill filed Monday by three Democratic senators.

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London, KY

#95672 Mar 5, 2013
The Cornell House in De Ruyter, New York

After losing money in a ship venture with his older brother, Elijah Cornell decided in 1807 to go west. There was still cheap wild land available in central New York, and

Quakers from Columbia and Dutchess County had formed a settlement in De Ruyter, Madison County.

The Cornells, with infant Ezra, made the three-week journey overland by team and wagon, purchasing 150 acres on Crum Hill, about three miles east of the village, for $375. In 1810, they returned east, but came back to De Ruyter in 1818. Conditions of pioneer farming were difficult. Ezra and his younger brother Elijah had to clear land so they could plant corn among the stumps. There were also opportunities for recreation: hunting and fishing, quiltings, apple bees, barn and house raisings, and other gatherings,

and Quaker meetings.

In the winter months, the children could attend the local school.

(IE: the foundings of Cornell U-

Ezra Cornell. "A nineteenth Century Life." Division of Rare and Manuscript Collections, Cornell University Library. WEB. Last accessed 3/5/2013

“See how you are?”

Since: Jul 12

Earth

#95673 Mar 5, 2013
"Broadly and generically, I'm not a regular church attender. I have evolved into less a Roman Catholic religion person [to] someone who tries to keep a degree of spirituality about them. I look upon myself as a humanist. I have faith in the goodness of mankind." - Dr. Anthony S. Fauci

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Since: Jul 12

Earth

#95674 Mar 5, 2013
And what do we learn from this, Blahs and girls? "Yep science one prayer zero" - SP

“I'll think about it.”

Since: Nov 07

central Florida

#95675 Mar 5, 2013
Yes and Amen wrote:
<quoted text> Death does not scare me, as a fact...
Death does frighten you. In your gut, you know it.
Why else the need to believe you will live forever?
Yes and Amen wrote:
<quoted text> I will probably have my head cut off!
I will forgive, and in a moment... I'll be with the Lord!
I AM Looking forward to it!
And there it is. The desire for martyrdom.
The true mark of a delusional religious fanatic.
Yes and Amen wrote:
<quoted text> Don't get me wrong, I do Love what the Lord has given me, but it
will be better afterwards!
And if your "god" told you to kill your family and then shoot yourself, you would do it because "it will be better afterwards."
You are mentally ill. Please get treatment before you decide to prove how much you love your "god."
Yes and Amen wrote:
<quoted text> See... You "THINK" you have nothingness to look forward to..
I know yer wrong about that...
You should be the one concerned!
Repent, turn Towards the Lord... not away!
Good day :-)
I am not concerned. There is no "god" or "devil," no "heaven" or "hell."
You are correct about one thing though....I THINK, not believe.
harpocrates

Middlesboro, KY

#95676 Mar 5, 2013
aWitchintheWoods wrote:
<quoted text>
Death does frighten you. In your gut, you know it.
Why else the need to believe you will live forever?
<quoted text>
And there it is. The desire for martyrdom.
The true mark of a delusional religious fanatic.
<quoted text>
And if your "god" told you to kill your family and then shoot yourself, you would do it because "it will be better afterwards."
You are mentally ill. Please get treatment before you decide to prove how much you love your "god."
<quoted text>
I am not concerned. There is no "god" or "devil," no "heaven" or "hell."
You are correct about one thing though....I THINK, not believe.
fail

Forming beliefs is thus one of the most basic and important features of the mind, and the concept of belief plays a crucial role in both philosophy of mind and epistemology.

http://plato.stanford.edu/entries/belief/

“See how you are?”

Since: Jul 12

Earth

#95677 Mar 5, 2013
harpocrates wrote:
<quoted text>fail
Forming beliefs is thus one of the most basic and important features of the mind, and the concept of belief plays a crucial role in both philosophy of mind and epistemology.
http://plato.stanford.edu/entries/belief/
fail.
Clearly, WITW was referencing fideism, not epistemology.
harpocrates

Middlesboro, KY

#95678 Mar 5, 2013
ChromiuMan wrote:
<quoted text>
fail.
Clearly, WITW was referencing fideism, not epistemology.
fail

feidism is a school of thought, a philosophy, a belief system.

belief is intrinsic to mind. belief is intrinsic to human nature. thoughts are of the mind. however not everyone adheres to feidism even having beliefs.
my opinion

Hyden, KY

#95679 Mar 5, 2013
harpocrates wrote:
<quoted text>fail
Forming beliefs is thus one of the most basic and important features of the mind, and the concept of belief plays a crucial role in both philosophy of mind and epistemology.
http://plato.stanford.edu/entries/belief/
Beliefs are fine. However, problems arise when you are willing to judge others and make decisions with serious repercussions based on beliefs supported by little to no evidence; or worse, beliefs refuted by evidence.

Thoughts like: "We shouldn't worry about climate change, because whatever God wants to happen will." "I look forward to the dying, because then everything will be perfect." "Science is meaningless. God doesn't mean us to understand things better than we already do. " Or my favorite: "My religion should be backed by legislation, and should be the official religion of the state, even though it is no older, is backed by no more evidence, and has never been demonstrated as better for society than any other belief system."

Such thoughts all demonstrate a lack of logic, a narcissistic certainty in the superiority of your own beliefs, and a destructive "us against them" world view.

It's fine to have religion, but you should be open minded enough to accept that other people have a right to believe other things, or to try to understand the universe, even if what we discover does not support your beliefs and makes you uncomfortable in your faith.

So back to religion in schools: If you really think your faith based beliefs should be taught universally in public classrooms, you really need a more open minded, critical outlook. Your thought process is very nonconstructive.

“There is no god.”

Since: Jan 12

USA

#95680 Mar 5, 2013
"Beliefs are fine. However, problems arise when you are willing to judge others and make decisions with serious repercussions based on beliefs supported by little to no evidence; or worse, beliefs refuted by evidence."

Yep, well stated, good post.

“There is no god.”

Since: Jan 12

USA

#95681 Mar 5, 2013
Liberal? Lmao, the religie lies some more, I would expect no less from someone that says they are a christian.

“See how you are?”

Since: Jul 12

Earth

#95682 Mar 5, 2013
harpocrates wrote:
<quoted text>fail
feidism is a school of thought, a philosophy, a belief system.
belief is intrinsic to mind. belief is intrinsic to human nature. thoughts are of the mind. however not everyone adheres to feidism even having beliefs.
I understand what you are semantically nitpicking. That practice is playing with a cat's cradle in Plato's cave after the fire went out.

YaA's belief system (faith) is based in fideism. He throws out critical thought in favor of absurdity.
WITW was criticizing that practice, offering instead that she prefers rationalism.

"Generally speaking, the errors in religion are dangerous; those in philosophy only ridiculous."
- David Hume

“There is no god.”

Since: Jan 12

USA

#95683 Mar 5, 2013
aWitchintheWoods wrote:
<quoted text>
Death does frighten you. In your gut, you know it.
Why else the need to believe you will live forever?
<quoted text>
And there it is. The desire for martyrdom.
The true mark of a delusional religious fanatic.
<quoted text>
And if your "god" told you to kill your family and then shoot yourself, you would do it because "it will be better afterwards."
You are mentally ill. Please get treatment before you decide to prove how much you love your "god."
<quoted text>
I am not concerned. There is no "god" or "devil," no "heaven" or "hell."
You are correct about one thing though....I THINK, not believe.
Good post, to bad its wasted on that idiot.

“There is no god.”

Since: Jan 12

USA

#95684 Mar 5, 2013
ChromiuMan wrote:
And what do we learn from this, Blahs and girls? "Yep science one prayer zero" - SP
Lol.
harpocrates

Middlesboro, KY

#95685 Mar 5, 2013
my opinion wrote:
<quoted text>
Beliefs are fine. However, problems arise when you are willing to judge others and make decisions with serious repercussions based on beliefs supported by little to no evidence; or worse, beliefs refuted by evidence.
Thoughts like: "We shouldn't worry about climate change, because whatever God wants to happen will." "I look forward to the dying, because then everything will be perfect." "Science is meaningless. God doesn't mean us to understand things better than we already do. " Or my favorite: "My religion should be backed by legislation, and should be the official religion of the state, even though it is no older, is backed by no more evidence, and has never been demonstrated as better for society than any other belief system."
Such thoughts all demonstrate a lack of logic, a narcissistic certainty in the superiority of your own beliefs, and a destructive "us against them" world view.
It's fine to have religion, but you should be open minded enough to accept that other people have a right to believe other things, or to try to understand the universe, even if what we discover does not support your beliefs and makes you uncomfortable in your faith.
So back to religion in schools: If you really think your faith based beliefs should be taught universally in public classrooms, you really need a more open minded, critical outlook. Your thought process is very nonconstructive.
i never stated that religion should be taught in school. i stated that beliefs are an intrinsic part of humanity. you just assumed; which reiterates my point.

the problem with beliefs is when they aren't tested against reality as a whole and only as one's perceived reality. thus you assumed believed i was advocating for one belief system en lieu of another. i wasn't.

everyone doesn't utilize the same language, cultural experiences, or space/time to assimilate and disseminate understanding.

we mature by testing our beliefs against reality and hopefully we expand our consciousness in so doing.

“There is no god.”

Since: Jan 12

USA

#95686 Mar 5, 2013
ChromiuMan wrote:
<quoted text>
fail.
Clearly, WITW was referencing fideism, not epistemology.
Clearly, the religies grasp at anything to support their nothing.

“There is no god.”

Since: Jan 12

USA

#95687 Mar 5, 2013
There is no kjv god, and never will be, bull excrement is real and religies spew it constantly.

“See how you are?”

Since: Jul 12

Earth

#95688 Mar 5, 2013
LOL in a suit wrote:
<quoted text>Clearly, the religies grasp at anything to support their nothing.
Hebrews 11:1 sums it up.
No achievement of man or mannequin is more appropriate than a congregation full of Peanuts saluting each other.
harpocrates

Middlesboro, KY

#95689 Mar 5, 2013
ChromiuMan wrote:
<quoted text>
I understand what you are semantically nitpicking. That practice is playing with a cat's cradle in Plato's cave after the fire went out.
YaA's belief system (faith) is based in fideism. He throws out critical thought in favor of absurdity.
WITW was criticizing that practice, offering instead that she prefers rationalism.
"Generally speaking, the errors in religion are dangerous; those in philosophy only ridiculous."
- David Hume
it's your belief. rock that cradle all you wish.
harpocrates

Middlesboro, KY

#95690 Mar 5, 2013
LOL in a suit wrote:
<quoted text>Clearly, the religies grasp at anything to support their nothing.
transfer of belief
harpocrates

Middlesboro, KY

#95691 Mar 5, 2013
LOL in a suit wrote:
There is no kjv god, and never will be, bull excrement is real and religies spew it constantly.
transfer of belief

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