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Bible study rules for public schools proposed

There are 138612 comments on the The Courier-Journal story from Feb 10, 2010, titled Bible study rules for public schools proposed. In it, The Courier-Journal reports that:

FRANKFORT, Ky. - The state would create rules for teaching about the Bible in public high schools under a bill filed Monday by three Democratic senators.

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“There is no god”

Since: Jul 12

War, WV

#95411 Feb 24, 2013
Yes and Amen wrote:
<quoted text>"YOUR" truth comes from Satan himself!
God is Real, and I'll take HIS Truth over yours EVERYDAY!
You will Know the Truth... soon!
That has been said for hundreds of years and we laugh at you every time because...well we are still here aren't we

“See how you are?”

Since: Jul 12

Earth

#95413 Feb 24, 2013
Quantummist wrote:
<quoted text>
Also something that has bothered me from the first time I saw this... Look at the contrails left behind.... there are two separated contrails until the object detonates and then it is a single contrail...
Look at past meteorites and all have a single contrail as you would expect from a ball of rock .... The Only way I can see a object leaving twin contrails while burning through the atmosphere is if it was aerodynamic and produced wing tip vortex causing the trailing contrail to split and rotate around the wake vortex of each wingtip...
I have considered this a lot and cannot find a mechanism for a single stone to cause a twin contrail....
http://youtu.be/VMvvVbQcCBo...
"as you would expect from a ball..." However, there is nothing that mandates the rock was either a (roughly spherical) ball or an air foil. An irregular shape will produce an asymmetric bow wave.
Lord help us all

Nicholasville, KY

#95414 Feb 24, 2013
Children need to hear about JESUS and GOD. The world has become so corrupt that everybody has pushed word of God away from the children. The truth is in the Holy Bible. If people would seek God and Jesus as their salvation the world would be a much better place.

“There is no god”

Since: Jul 12

War, WV

#95415 Feb 24, 2013
Lord help us all wrote:
Children need to hear about JESUS and GOD. The world has become so corrupt that everybody has pushed word of God away from the children. The truth is in the Holy Bible. If people would seek God and Jesus as their salvation the world would be a much better place.
Salvation? Salvation from what? History shows that we need salvation from your evil cult!

“Speaker of Mountain Wisdom....”

Since: Jan 10

London, KY

#95416 Feb 24, 2013
ChromiuMan wrote:
<quoted text>
"as you would expect from a ball..." However, there is nothing that mandates the rock was either a (roughly spherical) ball or an air foil. An irregular shape will produce an asymmetric bow wave.
Then you would expect a variable contrail since a single irregular shape would be unstable as it interacts with the atmosphere... Along the path the trailing wake would follow the variability presented as material is vaporized off the object causing the contrail in the first place... Contrails are produced by modern aircraft by water vapor and particulates that are warm and cool into a condensate when conditions are correct at altitude, by particulates alone when poor combustion occurs, or actual released particulates such as smoke canisters...

Now consider a Rock... Even a comet fragment with large water content... to produce a contrail either there has to be a burn off of solid material or a vaporization of water that then cools ... In both cases it means the object is losing mass and structure.. So again the left behind contrail should be variable or a single as the object altered shape... In the first vid and others you will see contrails that vary as material is lost and the shape causes the contrail to vary in size and shape in relation to the object.. In the second you can see the twisted vortex pattern of the two contrails as you would expect from a wing tip produced vortex as the object burns off material from it's leading edges with no variation you would expect from a non aerodynamic shaped object...



http://youtu.be/wIv7wL9nWMQ
http://youtu.be/nsNPIyxwPlE

“See how you are?”

Since: Jul 12

Earth

#95417 Feb 24, 2013
Yes and Amen wrote:
<quoted text>"YOUR" truth comes from Satan himself!
God is Real, and I'll take HIS Truth over yours EVERYDAY!
You will Know the Truth... soon!
"..the Truth?"
You mean like day and night being created before the sun and moon, and a dozen other glaring discrepancies in the creation story? You mean like Cain building a "city" when the only people on Earth were the relatives of his murder victim? You mean like the dozen civilizations that survived the "flood", and that the Earth has no geological record of it ever happening? You mean like population statistics and the genetic record disproving the Garden of Eden myth in the first place? You mean like the anatomical and physical impossibility of surviving 3 days in the belly of a swimming fish - both for the human and every known species of fish? You mean like 3 inbred breeding pairs creating enough offspring in a few generations to be a large enough population to take on a building project like the Tower of Babel? You mean like Solomon's molten sea containing over 10 times the amount of water it physically could have? You mean like no archaeological evidence of an Egyptian army at the bottom of the Red Sea?
Et cetera, et al?
-
That "Truth?"

“See how you are?”

Since: Jul 12

Earth

#95418 Feb 24, 2013
Quantummist wrote:
<quoted text>
Then you would expect a variable contrail since a single irregular shape would be unstable as it interacts with the atmosphere... Along the path the trailing wake would follow the variability presented as material is vaporized off the object causing the contrail in the first place... Contrails are produced by modern aircraft by water vapor and particulates that are warm and cool into a condensate when conditions are correct at altitude, by particulates alone when poor combustion occurs, or actual released particulates such as smoke canisters...
Now consider a Rock... Even a comet fragment with large water content... to produce a contrail either there has to be a burn off of solid material or a vaporization of water that then cools ... In both cases it means the object is losing mass and structure.. So again the left behind contrail should be variable or a single as the object altered shape... In the first vid and others you will see contrails that vary as material is lost and the shape causes the contrail to vary in size and shape in relation to the object.. In the second you can see the twisted vortex pattern of the two contrails as you would expect from a wing tip produced vortex as the object burns off material from it's leading edges with no variation you would expect from a non aerodynamic shaped object...
http://youtu.be/wIv7wL9nWMQ
http://youtu.be/nsNPIyxwPlE
I wasn't referring to heating and cooling or outgassing of (asteroidal) ices or other materials, but of compression and expansion of atmosphere resulting in condensed water vapor - the twin trails rely on an asymmetric meteoroid having established a non-tumbling equilibrium in flight.
Not saying, just proposing....
GWB

Roseville, CA

#95419 Feb 24, 2013
Lord help us all wrote:
Children need to hear about JESUS and GOD. The world has become so corrupt that everybody has pushed word of God away from the children. The truth is in the Holy Bible. If people would seek God and Jesus as their salvation the world would be a much better place.
The truth is in the Holy Bible, KKK agrees.

“Speaker of Mountain Wisdom....”

Since: Jan 10

London, KY

#95420 Feb 24, 2013
ChromiuMan wrote:
<quoted text>
I wasn't referring to heating and cooling or outgassing of (asteroidal) ices or other materials, but of compression and expansion of atmosphere resulting in condensed water vapor - the twin trails rely on an asymmetric meteoroid having established a non-tumbling equilibrium in flight.
Not saying, just proposing....
Well it seems highly improbable that such a stable flight path would occur but without direct access to all the data we folks will never know but It just bothers me when compared to all other such events we have seen in the past... Back in the 50's a straight flyby inside the atmosphere happened and it also left a contrail but it was again a single residual without any edge generated vortex patterns... I have looked and looked and have yet to find a image of a meteor leaving a rotating twin contrail... So I'm just saying it needs to be studied in depth to understand the dynamics of what happened...

“There is no god”

Since: Jul 12

War, WV

#95421 Feb 24, 2013
ChromiuMan wrote:
<quoted text>
"..the Truth?"
You mean like day and night being created before the sun and moon, and a dozen other glaring discrepancies in the creation story? You mean like Cain building a "city" when the only people on Earth were the relatives of his murder victim? You mean like the dozen civilizations that survived the "flood", and that the Earth has no geological record of it ever happening? You mean like population statistics and the genetic record disproving the Garden of Eden myth in the first place? You mean like the anatomical and physical impossibility of surviving 3 days in the belly of a swimming fish - both for the human and every known species of fish? You mean like 3 inbred breeding pairs creating enough offspring in a few generations to be a large enough population to take on a building project like the Tower of Babel? You mean like Solomon's molten sea containing over 10 times the amount of water it physically could have? You mean like no archaeological evidence of an Egyptian army at the bottom of the Red Sea?
Et cetera, et al?
-
That "Truth?"
How far back does China's written records go?
GWB

Roseville, CA

#95422 Feb 24, 2013
Was Chelyabinsk meteor actually a meteor? Many Russians don't think so.

Lidiya Rykhlova, an expert at the Institute of Applied Astronomy in Moscow.

"Unfortunately we stopped teaching astronomy in our schools long ago; people are not equipped, or inclined to see these things in a rational light. I read recently about a survey that found half the population of the world believes that the Sun revolves around the Earth. There you go," she say

http://www.csmonitor.com/World/Europe/2013/02...
Known Fact

Cocoa Beach, FL

#95423 Feb 24, 2013
Rumors are carried by HATERS
Spread by FOOLS
and accepted by IDOTS!

“There is no god”

Since: Jul 12

War, WV

#95425 Feb 24, 2013
Known Fact wrote:
Rumors are carried by HATERS
Spread by FOOLS
and accepted by IDOTS!
You just described the christian religion
Google

Hazard, KY

#95426 Feb 24, 2013
Known Fact wrote:
Rumors are carried by HATERS
Spread by FOOLS
and accepted by IDOTS!
That is the best way to describe your cult and your door to door work.

“There is no god”

Since: Jul 12

War, WV

#95427 Feb 24, 2013
I wonder why the JW's pass my house by? Oh yes, I have read the bible
Known Fact

Cocoa Beach, FL

#95428 Feb 24, 2013
Evidently some are just very slow learners!
Carl Sagan

Hazard, KY

#95429 Feb 24, 2013
Known Fact wrote:
Rumors are carried by HATERS
Spread by FOOLS
and accepted by IDOTS!
The irony in this post, it burns.
so true

Morgantown, KY

#95430 Feb 24, 2013
Oh thou Great Chief,
Light a candle in my heart,
That I may see what is therein,
And sweep the rubbish from thy dwelling place

If your house cant be clean , may we at least have a good heart...
so true

Morgantown, KY

#95431 Feb 24, 2013
Dancing the past away
We push through dreariness
Finding something laid by the side
Three decades past but not forgotten
The new and the old in us mesh
We are and are not who we were
We become new people, old people rejuvenated
Hoping again, not believing, but hoping
No faith, but hoping the music lasts
Dancing the past away

May we all dance just for a little while...
Known Fact

Cocoa Beach, FL

#95432 Feb 24, 2013
Hellfire—Is It Part of Divine Justice?
Have you ever seen someone tortured? We hope not. Deliberate torture is sickening and abhorrent. What, though, of torture inflicted by God? Can you imagine such a thing? Yet, this is exactly what is implied by the teaching of hellfire, an official doctrine in many religions.
Imagine, for a moment, the following horrific scene: A person is being roasted on a hot iron plate. In his agony he screams for mercy, but nobody listens. The torture goes on and on, hour after hour, day after day—without pause!
Whatever crime the victim may have committed, would not your heart go out to him? What of the one who ordered the torture? Could he be a loving person? In no way! Love is merciful and shows pity. A loving father may punish his children, but he would never torture them!
Nevertheless, many religions teach that God tortures sinners in an eternal hellfire. This, it is claimed, is divine justice. If that is true, who created that terrible place of eternal torment? And who is responsible for the excruciating agonies inflicted there? The answers would seem obvious. If such a place really exists, then God would have to be the creator of it, and he would be responsible for what happens there.
Can you accept that? The Bible says:“God is love.”(1 John 4:8) Would a God of love inflict torture that even humans with any measure of decency find revolting? Surely not!
An Unreasonable Teaching
Still, many believe that the wicked will go to a fiery hell and be tormented forever. Is this teaching logical? The human life span is limited to 70 or 80 years. Even if someone perpetrated extreme wickedness for his whole lifetime, would everlasting torment be a just punishment? No. It would be grossly unjust to torment a man forever for the limited number of sins that he can commit in a lifetime.
Who knows the truth about what happens after we die? Only God can reveal this information, and he has done so in his written Word, the Bible, referred to above. Here is what the Bible says:“As the [beast] dies, so the [man] dies; and they all have but one spirit . . . All are going to one place. They have all come to be from the dust, and they are all returning to the dust.”(Ecclesiastes 3:19, 20) There is no mention here of a fiery hell. Humans return to dust—to nonexistence—when they die.
In order to be tormented, an individual has to be conscious. Are the dead conscious? No.“The living are conscious that they will die; but as for the dead, they are conscious of nothing at all, neither do they anymore have wages, because the remembrance of them has been forgotten.”(Ecclesiastes 9:5) It is impossible for the dead,“conscious of nothing at all,” to experience the agonies of hellfire.

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