Bible study rules for public schools proposed

There are 137853 comments on the The Courier-Journal story from Feb 10, 2010, titled Bible study rules for public schools proposed. In it, The Courier-Journal reports that:

FRANKFORT, Ky. - The state would create rules for teaching about the Bible in public high schools under a bill filed Monday by three Democratic senators.

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“There is no god.”

Since: Jan 12

USA

#95233 Feb 18, 2013
HecklerJerk wrote:
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Better yet... defend the lie. You can't.
With a more lies.

“There is no god.”

Since: Jan 12

USA

#95234 Feb 18, 2013
HecklerJerk wrote:
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In other words I'm right and you have no argument to defend the lie. Liar.
Great post, the truth angers it.
CommonSense101

Somerset, KY

#95235 Feb 18, 2013
Satanic Priest wrote:
<quoted text>I did not attack your opinion, I attacked your lie. You stated that the god of the bible killed no one, never condoned slavery or rape, never ordered the death of children, all of that is in your bible. You are a poor liar.
Shall I post the verses from your bible for you?
YOU are the poor "LIAR".

CommieTicsandzealots wrote:
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WTH are you babbling about fool? MY "God" killed no one, nor declared rape as "good", and never demanded any children be killed.

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Anti-theist

Hazard, KY

#95236 Feb 18, 2013
>Username is 'CommonSense101'

>Religious fundamentalists

wut

“There is no god.”

Since: Jan 12

USA

#95237 Feb 18, 2013
emperorjohn wrote:
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In other words, you mold your god to what you like. You pick and choose what you want to follow. Your religion and our faith is a fraud.
You have been here long enough john to know the religies can not help but be frauds, its all they got.
one and only

Charleston, WV

#95238 Feb 18, 2013
teaching religion in public shcools are tabbo for a reason. not everybody believes in the bible thumping idiots that are a minority in this world. people that rely on the bible toget them thru life needs a different crutch to lean on. evolution is the way and the only way dumbasses

“There is no god.”

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USA

#95239 Feb 18, 2013
Satanic Priest wrote:
Why are christians so down on Hitler and the Nazi party? Yes they killed a few million people but the god they worship killed, and demanded the death of, ten times the people Hitler killed so they must be on the same side.
Here is the fact. The christian cult, a small minority of the population, wants to separate themselves from reality. So lets give them Texas and they can do as they please in their schools with their children and we can live in the rest of the USA with equal rights for every one.
Of course we would accept their children when they escape from the asylum.
"Why are christians so down on Hitler and the Nazi party?"

Because hitler and the nazi party did not achieve the christian dream of world domination with only one religion.

This would have been the christian world hymm song,

wake-up

Ashland, KY

#95240 Feb 18, 2013
I don't want anybody teaching the bible in schools. Unless you are ready to allow the Koran, the Torah. Which like the people pushing this are white , old, and republican do not want anything but a white, Christian, religion. The constitution protects religion and the freedom of no religion. The people need to read about the founding fathers. More than a few were atheist. Wake up Kentucky . Quit being sucked in by people that want to take all the benefits that you have worked for all your lives. Medicare , Social Security, Rand Paul and Mitch "The Bitch" McConnell are not for anybody but the Tea Party wingnuts.

“There is no god.”

Since: Jan 12

USA

#95241 Feb 18, 2013
HecklerJerk wrote:
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Better yet... defend the lie. You can't.
Check out the name calling by the same religie post 95235, hatred of truth + hypocrisy = christian.

“There is no god.”

Since: Jan 12

USA

#95242 Feb 18, 2013
ChromiuMan wrote:
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FACT:
To state that anyone "worships" evolution as a "religion" shines a spotlight on the caliber of scrutiny by which most Christians conduct "Bible Study." It is on par with their inability to comprehend that there is no such thing as "a belief in the religion of atheism." There seems to be some construct of thought by which many of the devout cannot accept that others need not process information within a theological or ideological framework.
Hey Chromi, waste of time that one is like yaa impervious to truth, reason and logic.

“There is no god.”

Since: Jan 12

USA

#95243 Feb 18, 2013
If reading is a "constitutional right", lmao, why is the goverment not curing blindness like "god in a jesus suit" did.
Napoleon said it best

Elizabethtown, KY

#95244 Feb 18, 2013
CommonSense101 wrote:
Obvioulsy for many, evolution is their "religion" per say.
Or there wouldn't be a "Society" of it.
I believe in the law of gravity and the theory that explains it. Do you consider that a religion?

If so, then you have diluted the definition of religion to an absurd level in this argument to make a point, and as such have committed a fallacy and your argument is invalid.

If not, then please explain how one scientific understanding can be a religion and the other not, based on your criteria.

Then we could examine your argument and realize that instead of using definitions for all 3 terms, you used one, and then used quotes of individual interpretation of the definition, and your premises for your argument are unacceptable on that basis alone; making your argument completely invalid.

In what world do you think you have made the case that evolution is a religion? You haven't.

Let me further destroy a common argument that evolution being a theory requires as much faith as one who believes in God does and put this completely to rest for you.

Evolution being a theory doesn't require faith...as scientific theories are not merely acts of faith. Let's learn about science:

A scientific law is an observed physical phenomenon that always occurs. I.e. things fall down, things at rest tend to stay at rest, or offspring are different from their parents. These are scientific laws. Note that there is absolutely no explanation for any of these events within the law, only a description of the observation. The explanation is the theory: in this case, the theories of gravity, inertia and evolution.

There is indeed a "law" of evolution, and that is that the genetic composition of a population changes over time (offspring are different than their parents). Every piece of evidence gathered so far from a wide variety of fields has supported the theory of evolution as the explanation for this observed 'law'. There is no point at which a theory somehow graduates to become a law. A theory is either upheld (as evolution has been, time and time again), or it is discarded (as spontaneous generation was).

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#95245 Feb 18, 2013
Known Fact wrote:
Do you know why people make the mistake of blaming God for all the suffering in the world? In many cases, they blame Almighty God because they think that he is the real ruler of this world. They do not know a simple but important truth that the Bible teaches. The real ruler of this world is Satan the Devil.
He is also mileading you into being an atheist. That is one way he is misleading the whole world.
2 Corinthians 4:4 ... the god of this system of things has blinded the minds of the unbelievers, that the illumination of the glorious good news about the Christ, who is the image of God, might not shine through.
That's called insurance against reason. You stick things like that in your religion to make sure smart people think twice about thinking. Don't need no thinkers in the faith.

Also, if God is not powerful enough to prevent suffering then he/she/it isn't the all powerful being it claims to be. You can't have it both ways. God is either not all powerful or he's kind of a dooshbag.

“There is no god.”

Since: Jan 12

USA

#95246 Feb 18, 2013
emperorjohn wrote:
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I don't believe in God or Satan, No one made me become an atheist. What made me become an atheist was my own realization that
a)the stories of the buybull regarding creation were inconsistent with evolution.
b) the lack of proof of a god
c) the reality that the god of the buybull is a cruel autocratic tyrant.
D)the realization that the buybull has many inconsistencies
E) The fact that the buybull is plagiarized from many different sources.
F)The hatred displayed by its followers.

“There is no god.”

Since: Jan 12

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#95247 Feb 18, 2013
Napoleon said it best wrote:
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I believe in the law of gravity and the theory that explains it. Do you consider that a religion?
If so, then you have diluted the definition of religion to an absurd level in this argument to make a point, and as such have committed a fallacy and your argument is invalid.
If not, then please explain how one scientific understanding can be a religion and the other not, based on your criteria.
Then we could examine your argument and realize that instead of using definitions for all 3 terms, you used one, and then used quotes of individual interpretation of the definition, and your premises for your argument are unacceptable on that basis alone; making your argument completely invalid.
In what world do you think you have made the case that evolution is a religion? You haven't.
Let me further destroy a common argument that evolution being a theory requires as much faith as one who believes in God does and put this completely to rest for you.
Evolution being a theory doesn't require faith...as scientific theories are not merely acts of faith. Let's learn about science:
A scientific law is an observed physical phenomenon that always occurs. I.e. things fall down, things at rest tend to stay at rest, or offspring are different from their parents. These are scientific laws. Note that there is absolutely no explanation for any of these events within the law, only a description of the observation. The explanation is the theory: in this case, the theories of gravity, inertia and evolution.
There is indeed a "law" of evolution, and that is that the genetic composition of a population changes over time (offspring are different than their parents). Every piece of evidence gathered so far from a wide variety of fields has supported the theory of evolution as the explanation for this observed 'law'. There is no point at which a theory somehow graduates to become a law. A theory is either upheld (as evolution has been, time and time again), or it is discarded (as spontaneous generation was).
Good post, well stated.

“There is no god.”

Since: Jan 12

USA

#95248 Feb 18, 2013
Yiago wrote:
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That's called insurance against reason. You stick things like that in your religion to make sure smart people think twice about thinking. Don't need no thinkers in the faith.
Also, if God is not powerful enough to prevent suffering then he/she/it isn't the all powerful being it claims to be. You can't have it both ways. God is either not all powerful or he's kind of a dooshbag.
Yep.

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#95249 Feb 18, 2013
LOL in a suit wrote:
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Look it up, long time back.
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The only point standing was to show you had no ideal what my statement was about, and judged me "intellectually shallow".
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You should stop doing it.
I use nazi for one religie and that religie claimed to be a nazi, soooooo, there you go.
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Lol, and how pray tell, might one "argue" in a good way?
Unless you are here to make friends, I for one am not.
But I feel a few on this thread are kindred spirits.
Lmfao.
I wasn't aiming that comment directly at you. I apologize if I offended.

My point was simply that comparisons to Nazis are a good indicator of a person without a sound argument. I didn't read everything you posted on the subject so if I misjudged you I am sorry.

I don't make those comparisons anymore. I have done it in the past but once you go down that road a time or two you kind of realize how futile and pointless it is. Again I'm reminded of a thread a long time back where a guy posted page after page trying to link Darwin to Hitler. It was completely stupid but it demonstrated the point that these comparisons are useless. I think it was when I saw those pages of posts I kind of realized this.

But that's just me. Oh, and the internet... http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Godwin%27s_law

lol

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#95250 Feb 18, 2013
LOL in a suit wrote:
<quoted text>Good post, well stated.
Yeah, I totally agree. Great post.
Anti-theist

Hazard, KY

#95251 Feb 18, 2013
Napoleon said it best wrote:
<quoted text>
I believe in the law of gravity and the theory that explains it. Do you consider that a religion?
If so, then you have diluted the definition of religion to an absurd level in this argument to make a point, and as such have committed a fallacy and your argument is invalid.
If not, then please explain how one scientific understanding can be a religion and the other not, based on your criteria.
Then we could examine your argument and realize that instead of using definitions for all 3 terms, you used one, and then used quotes of individual interpretation of the definition, and your premises for your argument are unacceptable on that basis alone; making your argument completely invalid.
In what world do you think you have made the case that evolution is a religion? You haven't.
Let me further destroy a common argument that evolution being a theory requires as much faith as one who believes in God does and put this completely to rest for you.
Evolution being a theory doesn't require faith...as scientific theories are not merely acts of faith. Let's learn about science:
A scientific law is an observed physical phenomenon that always occurs. I.e. things fall down, things at rest tend to stay at rest, or offspring are different from their parents. These are scientific laws. Note that there is absolutely no explanation for any of these events within the law, only a description of the observation. The explanation is the theory: in this case, the theories of gravity, inertia and evolution.
There is indeed a "law" of evolution, and that is that the genetic composition of a population changes over time (offspring are different than their parents). Every piece of evidence gathered so far from a wide variety of fields has supported the theory of evolution as the explanation for this observed 'law'. There is no point at which a theory somehow graduates to become a law. A theory is either upheld (as evolution has been, time and time again), or it is discarded (as spontaneous generation was).
You probably just made that person's head explode. Good reply.

“There is no god.”

Since: Jan 12

USA

#95252 Feb 18, 2013
Yiago wrote:
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I wasn't aiming that comment directly at you. I apologize if I offended.
My point was simply that comparisons to Nazis are a good indicator of a person without a sound argument. I didn't read everything you posted on the subject so if I misjudged you I am sorry.
I don't make those comparisons anymore. I have done it in the past but once you go down that road a time or two you kind of realize how futile and pointless it is. Again I'm reminded of a thread a long time back where a guy posted page after page trying to link Darwin to Hitler. It was completely stupid but it demonstrated the point that these comparisons are useless. I think it was when I saw those pages of posts I kind of realized this.
But that's just me. Oh, and the internet... http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Godwin%27s_law
lol
I agree, but as I said when a religie claims to be a nazi I will keep reminding them. Apologize, no need, this is topix and I enjoy your posts.

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