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Bible study rules for public schools proposed

There are 142275 comments on the The Courier-Journal story from Feb 10, 2010, titled Bible study rules for public schools proposed. In it, The Courier-Journal reports that:

FRANKFORT, Ky. - The state would create rules for teaching about the Bible in public high schools under a bill filed Monday by three Democratic senators.

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#94886 Feb 10, 2013
Satanic Priest wrote:
<quoted text>I was talking to a couple of mormons and a baptist abouthow people have a right to live their own lives. I was told that men with long hair are disrespectful. To who?, did you ever consider that your short hair is disrespectful? Then I told them that their bible says it is a sin for a man to cut his hair. They got pissed and the conversation was over. You can not have a real conversation with these idiots!
I know its like they have been so brain washed that english doesnt break through.

“There is no god”

Since: Jul 12

War, WV

#94887 Feb 10, 2013
Yiago wrote:
<quoted text>
A high school class in Greek so that kids can translate old scrolls? That would be awesome, actually. It would be impossible, but a great exercise.
Nothing wrong with reading the Bible. Reading in general is very good for the ole noggin. As long as you are liberal in your religious views then there is no problem. Once you go down the path of Fundamentalism you are off the rails.
I think a comparative religion course taught be a qualified instructor would be an incredibly good asset to any kid's education. And I guarantee the Fundie parents would lose their sh*t over it because when you start comparing religions you necessarily criticize your own.
When my wife took a "worlds religions" class in college the professor made the statement that they where studying the foolishness of other people because the only true religion is the christian religion.
If that could be stopped and there was no bias, just the study of all religions than that would be great.
Also, if the study of the christian bible was the entire bible, not a few chosen parts I would not mind as long as there is no bias (after all reading the bible is what taught me that there is no god)
Yes and Amen

Georgetown, KY

#94888 Feb 10, 2013
bible says wrote:
<quoted text>
since u point out the catholics it is good to know that they control all the original scriptures and things and guess who isnt aloowed to see them...no one but the higher priests of the vatican. they tell all what the bible says in one way or the other so i beg to say that every christian is somewhat a catholic whether they like the idea or not. they control the source so they control what u or anyone else thinks is actually wrote in them. who is to say its not even translated and they made the bible say exactly what they wanted it to say. maybe thats why some very important people from the bible had their scriptures left out when the final cut was released. for example the book of enoch, the book of mary (thought to be magdalene and not his mother), and the life of adam and eve that tells eves side of it all. so have u ever thoguht why u only get parts of it when other ppl important to jesus wrote scripture but teirs was left out. what are they hiding?
Read some of these...
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Apostolic_Father...

since they were before Constantine, there not poluted by the catholic church!
Stop reading Dan Brown...
Adam, and Eve didn't write a thing...
It was told by God to Moses!
Also... writings that didn't make it into the cannon
didn't Jive with the OT, and the rest of the Gospels!
Also... How could Judas write a gospel... hanging from a tree?
Could Judas be in Heaven??? He did repent!
.
http://thebibletrial.com/
Hope this helps!
Yes and Amen

Georgetown, KY

#94889 Feb 10, 2013
Jimmy Two Shoes wrote:
Liberalism thinking has become a religion in itself. Those with that particular mind set worship at the altar of pro choice, environmentalism, animal rights, gay marriage, etc. They have no problem infusing these beliefs and doctrines into modern education. They need to be more diversity minded and not be against other beliefs. I say the more people know Jesus the Christ, the more we increase our chances of saving this country from the collapse we are racing toward
Great post!
Thanks!

“There is no god”

Since: Jul 12

War, WV

#94890 Feb 10, 2013
The christian cult is a social club not a religion. In a religion people worship a Deity
The word "worship" is defined as "loving beyond all else", so how can the christian cult claim to worship their god when they choose to ignore the parts of the bible that are not convenient to their lifestyle?
Saying "All I have to do is ask for forgiveness" is selfishness, not worship.
"God said that I should not cut my hair, but my political beliefs say I should have short hair so I will ignore god's words and do what I want" That is not worship!
More proof that the christian cult does not believe in a god.
How stupid can you be

Georgetown, KY

#94891 Feb 10, 2013
ChromiuMan wrote:
<quoted text>
Tenure is not immunity, it merely provides a process by which a position is not terminated without due cause. How ironic is it when ignorami think teachers are the bad guys?
Tea, anyone?
"ignorami"
He didn't say "ALL" teachers were bad!
There are few of them... Just not as good as the Charter schools!
Down with Teachers Unions!... ALL Unions!
How stupid can you be

Georgetown, KY

#94892 Feb 10, 2013
Satanic Priest wrote:
So the christian cult is the majority? Well that explains the vastness of Internet porn, strip clubs, bars, pedophiles, murderers, rapist, thieves.
Most people who do not believe in "god" will claim to be christian when confronted in public about religious beliefs to avoid persecution. The number of people who go to church at least one day a year makes the christian cult a very small minority.
The true number of "christians" is about one fourth of the claimed number.)
Hahahaha!
So... We can say
"Well that explains the vastness of Internet porn, strip clubs, bars, pedophiles, murderers, rapist, thieves."
that these things are bad... Agreed!
.
"Most people who do not believe in "god" will claim to be christian"
Most likely those same people that started the strip clubs, pornography, and pediflia ect...
.
"(even most Satanist will lie and say they are christian to avoid losing their jobs and having protesters outside their homes)"
.
I'd say that these are NOT the only things you lie about...
.
We Christians... WILL stand TALL, and proclaim our faith
in fear of death... Why?
Because it's TRUE!
Christ Lives!

“I'll think about it.”

Since: Nov 07

central Florida

#94893 Feb 10, 2013
"You are worthless without him.
You need him in your life.
You are unloveable and unworthy of love.
You are evil and nothing you can ever do is
good enough to be accepted by him.

But he will love you, anyway, despite your
state of unloveability, worthlessness,
and evilness.
Obey everything he say to do.
He knows what is best for you, despite any
plan, hopes, or dreams you have of
your own that is not part of how he thinks
you need to behave and what he
thinks you should do with your life.
You need to submit completely to his will."

When will Christians realize that their doctrine
they adhere to, that their
mindset, and everything that they think is
right about their lives is exactly what the
DSM-IV classifies as 'battered wife syndrome?'
---The Thinker

----------
Perhaps it should be called "battered person syndrome.
The self-loathing condition is the same regardless of gender.

“Question, Explore, Discover”

Since: Dec 11

Location hidden

#94895 Feb 10, 2013
Satanic Priest wrote:
<quoted text>When my wife took a "worlds religions" class in college the professor made the statement that they where studying the foolishness of other people because the only true religion is the christian religion.
If that could be stopped and there was no bias, just the study of all religions than that would be great.
Also, if the study of the christian bible was the entire bible, not a few chosen parts I would not mind as long as there is no bias (after all reading the bible is what taught me that there is no god)
I would suggest studying I Samuel first. That way the kids could come face-to-face with the moral quandary that is God commanding his people to kill women and children.

“There is no god”

Since: Jul 12

War, WV

#94896 Feb 10, 2013
How stupid can you be wrote:
<quoted text>Hahahaha!
So... We can say
"Well that explains the vastness of Internet porn, strip clubs, bars, pedophiles, murderers, rapist, thieves."
that these things are bad... Agreed!
.
"Most people who do not believe in "god" will claim to be christian"
Most likely those same people that started the strip clubs, pornography, and pediflia ect...
.
"(even most Satanist will lie and say they are christian to avoid losing their jobs and having protesters outside their homes)"
.
I'd say that these are NOT the only things you lie about...
.
We Christians... WILL stand TALL, and proclaim our faith
in fear of death... Why?
Because it's TRUE!
Christ Lives!
You do not need a "god" to forgive you. If you have wronged some one and feel bad about it than make it right with that person.
You are perfect with faults, that makes you a human being. You where not born "bad" or in "sin" (FACT; "Sinners" where the people whom worshiped the Egyptian God SIN, a bad action was not called a sin until the Jewish people condemned the worship of the Egyptian Gods) There is no "original sin" and we are not "born in to sin" That is a way to control people, by beating them down.
You are perfect with faults, you are a normal human

“There is no god”

Since: Jul 12

War, WV

#94897 Feb 10, 2013
Yiago wrote:
<quoted text>
I would suggest studying I Samuel first. That way the kids could come face-to-face with the moral quandary that is God commanding his people to kill women and children.
The christian freaks want little girls to read about lot having sex with his two daughters so they know that god likes it when they have sex with their father

“There is no god”

Since: Jul 12

War, WV

#94898 Feb 10, 2013
And just how is a christian church any different than a country club? Since the christian cult picks and chooses from their bible (gods word?) they do not worship a god (they worship money) so they go to a gathering where they tell each other how they are good and every one else is bad, pat themselves on the back for going to church and being better than every one else, run down every one who does not follow them, the exact same thing that snobs do at country clubs

“There is no god”

Since: Jul 12

War, WV

#94899 Feb 10, 2013
There has not been one single writing about jesus before Constantine created him.
There are writings found that are thousands of years older than the fabled times of jesus but not one single writing until a ruler started using religion to control the masses

“There is no god”

Since: Jul 12

War, WV

#94900 Feb 10, 2013

What the baptist church worships, is it any wonder that I feel uncomfortable around these evil freaks that condemn me for not being like them?

http://www.sbsun.com/news/ci_21331615/compton...

http://www.paragoulddailypress.com/articles/2...

http://www.kxii.com/home/headlines/Former-you...

Former youth minister arrested on sex crimes
www.kxii.com
COAL COUNTY, OK -- A Former Coalgate youth pastor has been arrested for sex crimes against children. 28-year-old Dustin Werneburg was taken into custody Wednesday on several second degree rape charges..

“See how you are?”

Since: Jul 12

Earth

#94901 Feb 10, 2013
How stupid can you be wrote:
<quoted text>"ignorami"
He didn't say "ALL" teachers were bad!
There are few of them... Just not as good as the Charter schools!
Down with Teachers Unions!... ALL Unions!
How ironic is it when ignorami think teachers are the bad guys?

Ignorami = plural of ignoramus. As in both hula AND you.

Down with unions? Maybe you should take a good long look at the history of the coal industry and who CONTINUES to protect miners' conditions and health. Down with Teacher's unions? Have you ever compared how a teacher's pension stacks up against politicians' or most administrators' retirement plans?
Hula hates the NEA, but you can bet your bottom dollar hula doesn't even know what the NEA actually does... and I KNOW you don't.
Bonjour

Manchester, KY

#94902 Feb 10, 2013
Bonjour!!
so true

Morgantown, KY

#94903 Feb 10, 2013
The lost Angel wrote:
<quoted text>
I was just merely pointing out the whole christian attitude, they can shove their beliefs down our throats and if we disagree we are bullying them. what makes you so sure your right. Christianity has its roots in paganism check the facts and you will see
I have no feeling of being correct. I only can hope that I may be someday. Good Day to you..
so true

Morgantown, KY

#94904 Feb 10, 2013
May be a idiot, in books of many , but I do see the good in some bad ...

A water bearer in India had two large pots, each hung on the end of a pole which he carried across his neck. One of the pots was perfectly made and never leaked. The other pot had a crack in it and by the time the water bearer reached his master's house it had leaked much of it's water and was only half full.

For a full two years this went on daily, with the bearer delivering only one and a half pots full of water to his master's house. Of course, the perfect pot was proud of its accomplishments. But the poor cracked pot was ashamed of its own imperfection, and miserable that it was able to accomplish only half of what it had been made to do.

After two years of what it perceived to be a bitter failure, it spoke to the water bearer one day by the stream. "I am ashamed of myself, and I want to apologize to you." "Why?" asked the bearer. "What are you ashamed of?" "I have been able, for these past two years, to deliver only half my load because this crack in my side causes water to leak out all the way back to your master's house. Because of my flaws, you have to do all of this work, and you don't get full value from your efforts," the pot said.

The water bearer felt sorry for the old cracked pot, and in his compassion he said, "As we return to the master's house, I want you to notice the beautiful flowers along the path."

Indeed, as they went up the hill, the old cracked pot took notice of the sun warming the beautiful wild flowers on the side of the path, and this cheered it some. But at the end of the trail, it still felt bad because it had leaked out half its load, and so again the pot apologized to the bearer for its failure.

The bearer said to the pot, "Did you notice that there were flowers only on your side of your path, but not on the other pot's side? That's because I have always known about your flaw, and I took advantage of it. I planted flower seeds on your side of the path, and every day while we walk back from the stream, you've watered them. For two years I have been able to pick these beautiful flowers to decorate my master's table. Without you being just the way you are, he would not have this beauty to grace his house."

Each of us has our own unique flaws. We're all cracked pots. But if we will allow it, God will use our flaws to grace his table. In God's great economy, nothing goes to waste. Don't be afraid of your flaws. Acknowledge them, and you too can be the cause of beauty. Know that in our weakness we find our strength.

“Speaker of Mountain Wisdom....”

Since: Jan 10

London, KY

#94905 Feb 10, 2013
Bonjour wrote:
Bonjour!!
Another French Model heard from...

“Speaker of Mountain Wisdom....”

Since: Jan 10

London, KY

#94906 Feb 10, 2013
so true wrote:
May be a idiot, in books of many , but I do see the good in some bad ...
A water bearer in India had two large pots, each hung on the end of a pole which he carried across his neck. One of the pots was perfectly made and never leaked. The other pot had a crack in it and by the time the water bearer reached his master's house it had leaked much of it's water and was only half full.
For a full two years this went on daily, with the bearer delivering only one and a half pots full of water to his master's house. Of course, the perfect pot was proud of its accomplishments. But the poor cracked pot was ashamed of its own imperfection, and miserable that it was able to accomplish only half of what it had been made to do.
After two years of what it perceived to be a bitter failure, it spoke to the water bearer one day by the stream. "I am ashamed of myself, and I want to apologize to you." "Why?" asked the bearer. "What are you ashamed of?" "I have been able, for these past two years, to deliver only half my load because this crack in my side causes water to leak out all the way back to your master's house. Because of my flaws, you have to do all of this work, and you don't get full value from your efforts," the pot said.
The water bearer felt sorry for the old cracked pot, and in his compassion he said, "As we return to the master's house, I want you to notice the beautiful flowers along the path."
Indeed, as they went up the hill, the old cracked pot took notice of the sun warming the beautiful wild flowers on the side of the path, and this cheered it some. But at the end of the trail, it still felt bad because it had leaked out half its load, and so again the pot apologized to the bearer for its failure.
The bearer said to the pot, "Did you notice that there were flowers only on your side of your path, but not on the other pot's side? That's because I have always known about your flaw, and I took advantage of it. I planted flower seeds on your side of the path, and every day while we walk back from the stream, you've watered them. For two years I have been able to pick these beautiful flowers to decorate my master's table. Without you being just the way you are, he would not have this beauty to grace his house."
Each of us has our own unique flaws. We're all cracked pots. But if we will allow it, God will use our flaws to grace his table. In God's great economy, nothing goes to waste. Don't be afraid of your flaws. Acknowledge them, and you too can be the cause of beauty. Know that in our weakness we find our strength.
Water Pot's don't have feelings, water pots don't talk... Sometimes a cigar is just a good cigar....

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