Bible study rules for public schools ...

Bible study rules for public schools proposed

There are 156440 comments on the The Courier-Journal story from Feb 10, 2010, titled Bible study rules for public schools proposed. In it, The Courier-Journal reports that:

FRANKFORT, Ky. - The state would create rules for teaching about the Bible in public high schools under a bill filed Monday by three Democratic senators.

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tsepha

Middlesboro, KY

#93429 Dec 29, 2012
Quantummist wrote:
<quoted text>
You do know that right now there are dozens of people in prison for Murder for killing a fetus right?
yes, laws are based on ethics and morals. obviously those laws change based on current popularity.
Quantummist wrote:
<quoted text>Should we release them since in your view you can't murder that which has not been born?
i was speaking to the other posters ethics/morals in relation to biblical perspective.

personally i don't like the idea of abortion but that is my own conscience choice. personally i like the idea of choice because it agrees with the idea of free will.

also, i suggest you stop gazing at my navel.

you know very little about me and to imply that i don't consider it murder, or do consider it murder, is a big leap of "faith" on your part, when i'm inquiring about another poster's belief on a matter.
S-N-A-F-U

Sierra Vista, AZ

#93430 Dec 29, 2012
Someone in these environs mentioned that religions has no place in the classroom, I agree and so did our founders. However, that doesn't mean the separation of God and his written word the Bible. There is a difference between religion per se and the Bible, the Bible is not a religion, but a 'Philosophy' passed down to humankind by God for their betterment and prosperity -- spiritualy and otherwise.

Most that have been schooled in our dumbed down PubEd system in the last few decades are not aware that our early reader in America was the Bible. Unfortunately, we have those in recent times that have disdain of having a Bible in the classrooms. In today's culture we can't pickup a newspaper filled with degradation on each page, such as murder, rape, corruption,aberrant behavior of every stripe, and Hollywood pumping out sewage -- in the form of gratuitous violence and sex to young skulls full of mush.

If at any time in our history, we need God more than ever-before, instead of this insipid sophistry spewed out by the "god of this world, Satan the devil'(2 Cor. 4:4) and his complicitors in the replacing the wisdom of Jesus Christ....

The following illistrates in detail, the early exposure to God and Jesus Christ in both grade schools and colleges through-out America.....

http://www.angelfire.com/la2/prophet1/educati...
S-N-A-F-U

Sierra Vista, AZ

#93431 Dec 29, 2012
S-N-A-F-U wrote:
Someone in these environs mentioned that religions has no place in the classroom, I agree and so did our founders. However, that doesn't mean the separation of God and his written word the Bible. There is a difference between religion per se and the Bible, the Bible is not a religion, but a 'Philosophy' passed down to humankind by God for their betterment and prosperity -- spiritualy and otherwise.
Most that have been schooled in our dumbed down PubEd system in the last few decades are not aware that our early reader in America was the Bible. Unfortunately, we have those in recent times that have disdain of having a Bible in the classrooms. In today's culture we can't pickup a newspaper filled with degradation on each page, such as murder, rape, corruption,aberrant behavior of every stripe, and Hollywood pumping out sewage -- in the form of gratuitous violence and sex to young skulls full of mush.
And, pardon the typo's....
If at any time in our history, we need God more than ever-before, instead of this insipid sophistry spewed out by the "god of this world, Satan the devil'(2 Cor. 4:4) and his complicitors in the replacing the wisdom of Jesus Christ....
The following illistrates in detail, the early exposure to God and Jesus Christ in both grade schools and colleges through-out America.....
http://www.angelfire.com/la2/prophet1/educati...
And, pardon the typo's

Satanic Priest

“There is no god”

Since: Jul 12

War, WV

#93432 Dec 29, 2012
S-N-A-F-U wrote:
Someone in these environs mentioned that religions has no place in the classroom, I agree and so did our founders. However, that doesn't mean the separation of God and his written word the Bible. There is a difference between religion per se and the Bible, the Bible is not a religion, but a 'Philosophy' passed down to humankind by God for their betterment and prosperity -- spiritualy and otherwise.
Most that have been schooled in our dumbed down PubEd system in the last few decades are not aware that our early reader in America was the Bible. Unfortunately, we have those in recent times that have disdain of having a Bible in the classrooms. In today's culture we can't pickup a newspaper filled with degradation on each page, such as murder, rape, corruption,aberrant behavior of every stripe, and Hollywood pumping out sewage -- in the form of gratuitous violence and sex to young skulls full of mush.
If at any time in our history, we need God more than ever-before, instead of this insipid sophistry spewed out by the "god of this world, Satan the devil'(2 Cor. 4:4) and his complicitors in the replacing the wisdom of Jesus Christ....
The following illistrates in detail, the early exposure to God and Jesus Christ in both grade schools and colleges through-out America.....
http://www.angelfire.com/la2/prophet1/educati...
If the bible is gods word than how come it is OK for christians to ignore the laws in the bible? Like eating pork or shrimp, wearing clothing that has two kinds of material, women wearing pants, etc? Oh, then the ten commandments do not apply because they are from the old law?

“Speaker of Mountain Wisdom....”

Since: Jan 10

Mount Vernon, KY

#93433 Dec 29, 2012
tsepha wrote:
<quoted text>yes, laws are based on ethics and morals. obviously those laws change based on current popularity.
<quoted text>i was speaking to the other posters ethics/morals in relation to biblical perspective.
personally i don't like the idea of abortion but that is my own conscience choice. personally i like the idea of choice because it agrees with the idea of free will.
also, i suggest you stop gazing at my navel.
you know very little about me and to imply that i don't consider it murder, or do consider it murder, is a big leap of "faith" on your part, when i'm inquiring about another poster's belief on a matter.
Great.. at least we are getting somewhere... Abortion is Homicide and Unjustified Homicide is Murder... Kewl.. Good to see you think a abortion doctor that aborts a fetus simply because they are paid to do so is a Murderer for Hire and a Mother that has an Abortion for Convenience is a Murderer... I would also propose that a woman that has more than a couple abortions for convenience are Serial Killers and the Abortion Doctors that preform 100's to 1000's abortions Only because of being paid are Mass Murders...

Satanic Priest

“There is no god”

Since: Jul 12

War, WV

#93434 Dec 29, 2012
Quantummist wrote:
<quoted text>
Great.. at least we are getting somewhere... Abortion is Homicide and Unjustified Homicide is Murder... Kewl.. Good to see you think a abortion doctor that aborts a fetus simply because they are paid to do so is a Murderer for Hire and a Mother that has an Abortion for Convenience is a Murderer... I would also propose that a woman that has more than a couple abortions for convenience are Serial Killers and the Abortion Doctors that preform 100's to 1000's abortions Only because of being paid are Mass Murders...
I tend to agree on most parts. My thinking is if the natural course of events would lead to a child than any thing done to change the natural course of events is wrong in most cases. However if the birth would cause harm to the mother or baby, than ending the pregnancy is justified.
Abortion as a form of birth control is wrong when there are so many other forms of birth control.
But then it is not my place to command others and those christians sure do love killing babies!

“TELLING IT LIKE IT IS”

Since: Apr 09

FARTSBURG

#93435 Dec 29, 2012
Satanic Priest wrote:
<quoted text>If the bible is gods word than how come it is OK for christians to ignore the laws in the bible? Like eating pork or shrimp, wearing clothing that has two kinds of material, women wearing pants, etc? Oh, then the ten commandments do not apply because they are from the old law?
Dang Satan Daddy, I thought you had all the answers.
epheh

Middlesboro, KY

#93436 Dec 29, 2012
Quantummist wrote:
<quoted text>
Great.. at least we are getting somewhere...
everyone is from somewhere. i was somewhere before you ever got somewhere
Quantummist wrote:
<quoted text>Abortion is Homicide and Unjustified Homicide is Murder... Kewl..
there are no absolutes.
Quantummist wrote:
<quoted text>Good to see you think a abortion doctor that aborts a fetus simply because they are paid to do so is a Murderer for Hire and a Mother that has an Abortion for Convenience is a Murderer...
you can show where i made such a statement?
Quantummist wrote:
<quoted text>I would also propose that a woman that has more than a couple abortions for convenience are Serial Killers and the Abortion Doctors that preform 100's to 1000's abortions Only because of being paid are Mass Murders...
then don't have an abortion. better yet take a ride down stinking creek on your noise maker and don't be naval gazing; especially at others.

“See how you are?”

Since: Jul 12

Earth

#93437 Dec 29, 2012
S-N-A-F-U wrote:
Someone in these environs mentioned that religions has no place in the classroom, I agree and so did our founders. However, that doesn't mean the separation of God and his written word the Bible. There is a difference between religion per se and the Bible, the Bible is not a religion, but a 'Philosophy' passed down to humankind by God for their betterment and prosperity -- spiritualy and otherwise.
Most that have been schooled in our dumbed down PubEd system in the last few decades are not aware that our early reader in America was the Bible. Unfortunately, we have those in recent times that have disdain of having a Bible in the classrooms. In today's culture we can't pickup a newspaper filled with degradation on each page, such as murder, rape, corruption,aberrant behavior of every stripe, and Hollywood pumping out sewage -- in the form of gratuitous violence and sex to young skulls full of mush.
If at any time in our history, we need God more than ever-before, instead of this insipid sophistry spewed out by the "god of this world, Satan the devil'(2 Cor. 4:4) and his complicitors in the replacing the wisdom of Jesus Christ....
The following illistrates in detail, the early exposure to God and Jesus Christ in both grade schools and colleges through-out America.....
http://www.angelfire.com/la2/prophet1/educati...
At a time when each household was likely to contain a Bible, it was fortuitous to use it as a primer. The practice of using it to teach English in the classroom was a utilization of an existing book, not a program of indoctrination by the founding fathers, who were clearly opposed to such a program.

Proposing any distinction between "religion" and "Christian philosophy" is merely conniving jargon to perpetrate an agenda. There is NO doubt WHATSOEVER that Christianity is a religion, and that THE HOLY BIBLE is a religious tome, not a philosophical treatise.
As usual and always, I do wish you holy rollers could abide by your 9th commandment - first with yourselves, then by consequence, with others.

“TELLING IT LIKE IT IS”

Since: Apr 09

FARTSBURG

#93438 Dec 29, 2012
ChromiuMan wrote:
<quoted text>
At a time when each household was likely to contain a Bible, it was fortuitous to use it as a primer. The practice of using it to teach English in the classroom was a utilization of an existing book, not a program of indoctrination by the founding fathers, who were clearly opposed to such a program.
Proposing any distinction between "religion" and "Christian philosophy" is merely conniving jargon to perpetrate an agenda. There is NO doubt WHATSOEVER that Christianity is a religion, and that THE HOLY BIBLE is a religious tome, not a philosophical treatise.
As usual and always, I do wish you holy rollers could abide by your 9th commandment - first with yourselves, then by consequence, with others.
I think you might be a holy roller. Have you ever tried to see how many pews you can jump at one time? You might find it fun getting a fireplace shovel full of hot ashes dumped down the seat of your drawers on Sunday Morning. You could see if you could out scoot, out roll and scream the other folks on the floor. You might even get an upskirt shot too. You might as well give it a try. Let's face it, you Atheist's are dry humping as it is.

“Speaker of Mountain Wisdom....”

Since: Jan 10

Mount Vernon, KY

#93439 Dec 29, 2012
epheh wrote:
<quoted text>everyone is from somewhere. i was somewhere before you ever got somewhere
<quoted text>there are no absolutes.
<quoted text>you can show where i made such a statement?
<quoted text>then don't have an abortion. better yet take a ride down stinking creek on your noise maker and don't be naval gazing; especially at others.
I will as soon as I finish rebuilding the motor and it gets warmer... And I don't gaze at anyone navel other than my own... It's Cute...

“Speaker of Mountain Wisdom....”

Since: Jan 10

Mount Vernon, KY

#93440 Dec 29, 2012
epheh wrote:
<quoted text>
there are no absolutes.
Yes there are.... Absolutely...

Satanic Priest

“There is no god”

Since: Jul 12

War, WV

#93441 Dec 29, 2012
THE UNA FARTER wrote:
<quoted text>
I think you might be a holy roller. Have you ever tried to see how many pews you can jump at one time? You might find it fun getting a fireplace shovel full of hot ashes dumped down the seat of your drawers on Sunday Morning. You could see if you could out scoot, out roll and scream the other folks on the floor. You might even get an upskirt shot too. You might as well give it a try. Let's face it, you Atheist's are dry humping as it is.
He said pew hehehe
How stupid can you be

Georgetown, KY

#93443 Dec 31, 2012
vasuki wrote:
<quoted text>because he claimed to be the son of god.
guess what?
Acts 17:28
For in him we live, and move, and have our being; as certain also of your own poets have said,
###For we are also his offspring.###
Acts 17:29
Forasmuch then as we are the offspring of God, we ought not to think that the Godhead is like unto gold, or silver, or stone, graven by art and man's device.
<quoted text>because he was using the NAME of names; which was considered to holy to utter by a human. kind of contradicts what god moses to tell the people though. tell them "I AM" has sent you.
<quoted text>any translation of the bible; especially the greek is based on a latin transliteration.
all denominations in the western world are generally based on latin rites beliefs via the catholic and eastern orthodox churches.
<quoted text>then i suggest you find another faith because yours is rooted in catholic dogma through the protestant reformation.
<quoted text>christianity is a cult. it's a cult of personality. the personality being jesus.
<quoted text>fact? again i present you as the epitome of why christianity and religion shouldn't be taught in schools. even your moniker on here is insulting.
What do you think of this moniker? Is it better for you?
(1) "Before Abraham was, I AM!"
Is NOT just using the 'Name'! It's saying
"Before Abraham was born Jesus (I AM) was in the beginning!
(2) Acts 17:29 Also says The God Head is not like Idols made by men!
(3) Cult? I think the word yer looking for is "Philosophy"!
(4) You do know there are writings/manuscripts that date Before
the catholic church!
(5) "Insulting"?
Have you ever done something so dumb, that you cursed yerself for two days (don't lie... you know what I mean!)...
How much cursing will the Lost do, when they realize...
God is real??? How much more, when yer children say to you
"Why did you not tell us?"
Tissue?
How stupid can you be

Georgetown, KY

#93444 Dec 31, 2012
S-N-A-F-U wrote:
Someone in these environs mentioned that religions has no place in the classroom, I agree and so did our founders. However, that doesn't mean the separation of God and his written word the Bible. There is a difference between religion per se and the Bible, the Bible is not a religion, but a 'Philosophy' passed down to humankind by God for their betterment and prosperity -- spiritualy and otherwise.
Most that have been schooled in our dumbed down PubEd system in the last few decades are not aware that our early reader in America was the Bible. Unfortunately, we have those in recent times that have disdain of having a Bible in the classrooms. In today's culture we can't pickup a newspaper filled with degradation on each page, such as murder, rape, corruption,aberrant behavior of every stripe, and Hollywood pumping out sewage -- in the form of gratuitous violence and sex to young skulls full of mush.
If at any time in our history, we need God more than ever-before, instead of this insipid sophistry spewed out by the "god of this world, Satan the devil'(2 Cor. 4:4) and his complicitors in the replacing the wisdom of Jesus Christ....
The following illistrates in detail, the early exposure to God and Jesus Christ in both grade schools and colleges through-out America.....
http://www.angelfire.com/la2/prophet1/educati...
Great post!
God Bless America!
How stupid can you be

Georgetown, KY

#93445 Dec 31, 2012
Quantummist wrote:
<quoted text>
Great.. at least we are getting somewhere... Abortion is Homicide and Unjustified Homicide is Murder... Kewl.. Good to see you think a abortion doctor that aborts a fetus simply because they are paid to do so is a Murderer for Hire and a Mother that has an Abortion for Convenience is a Murderer... I would also propose that a woman that has more than a couple abortions for convenience are Serial Killers and the Abortion Doctors that preform 100's to 1000's abortions Only because of being paid are Mass Murders...
Great post!
How stupid can you be

Georgetown, KY

#93446 Dec 31, 2012
Satanic Priest wrote:
<quoted text>I tend to agree on most parts. My thinking is if the natural course of events would lead to a child than any thing done to change the natural course of events is wrong in most cases. However if the birth would cause harm to the mother or baby, than ending the pregnancy is justified.
Abortion as a form of birth control is wrong when there are so many other forms of birth control.
But then it is not my place to command others and those christians sure do love killing babies!
Well...
I started thinking you might have gained some wisdom, but...
you kept talking, and proved me wrong!
(1) "if the birth would cause harm to the mother or baby"
<1% have ever been done to save the Mother, and
100% of Abortions have been harmful to the babies!
Even the ones that were failed abortions have harmed the babies!
(2)It's NOT yer place to stand up against Evil, against Wrong?
Well... I guess that says it in yer handle! So...
If you see someone beating their wife, n kids... you just walk on by? No! there's just some things you choose to speak out about!
(3) "those christians sure do love killing babies"?
I guess lying is yer forte also! Can you tell me who runs most
of the "Pro-Life" agencies... If you've got a clue!
.
I Hope I didn't insult you by calling you a Liar?
Tissue? ya Jackwagon!

Satanic Priest

“There is no god”

Since: Jul 12

War, WV

#93447 Dec 31, 2012
How stupid can you be wrote:
<quoted text>Well...
I started thinking you might have gained some wisdom, but...
you kept talking, and proved me wrong!
(1) "if the birth would cause harm to the mother or baby"
<1% have ever been done to save the Mother, and
100% of Abortions have been harmful to the babies!
Even the ones that were failed abortions have harmed the babies!
(2)It's NOT yer place to stand up against Evil, against Wrong?
Well... I guess that says it in yer handle! So...
If you see someone beating their wife, n kids... you just walk on by? No! there's just some things you choose to speak out about!
(3) "those christians sure do love killing babies"?
I guess lying is yer forte also! Can you tell me who runs most
of the "Pro-Life" agencies... If you've got a clue!
.
I Hope I didn't insult you by calling you a Liar?
Tissue? ya Jackwagon!
I love how you just make up numbers. Your statistics come from unreliable sources. Did it ever occur to you that the reason a woman has an abortion is not public information?
And there are so many bible verses where your evil god demands that you kill innocent children.
How is YOUR evil god any different than the Aztec god?
If I see some one beating their wife I tend to thump them, usually a bitch slap works because men who beat on women are cowards. Now if I see some one beating on a dog or cat I feed them to the gators. But what does that have to do with abortion?
You believe that killing people who work at womens clinics is justified by your evil god and I say that it is not your right to do so.
Did it ever occur to you that you have been fooled by the devil Jehovah the father of lies and you are worshiping the devil? ACTIONS speak of the true nature and your hate filled gods actions are evil
so true

New Haven, KY

#93449 Dec 31, 2012
Happy New Year's to all of you...

Life, I am the new year.
I am an unspoiled page in your book of time.
I am your next chance at the art of living.

I am your opportunity to practice
what you have learned about life
during the last twelve months.

All that you sought
and didn't find is hidden in me,
waiting for you to search it out
with more determination.

All the good that you tried for
and didn't achieve
is mine to grant
when you have fewer conflicting desires.

All that you dreamed but didn't dare to do,
all that you hoped but did not will,
all the faith that you claimed but did not have -
these slumber lightly,
waiting to be awakened
by the touch of a strong purpose.

I am your opportunity
to renew your allegiance to Him who said,
'behold, I make all things new.'

I am the new year.

Satanic Priest

“There is no god”

Since: Jul 12

War, WV

#93450 Dec 31, 2012
so true wrote:
Happy New Year's to all of you...
Life, I am the new year.
I am an unspoiled page in your book of time.
I am your next chance at the art of living.
I am your opportunity to practice
what you have learned about life
during the last twelve months.
All that you sought
and didn't find is hidden in me,
waiting for you to search it out
with more determination.
All the good that you tried for
and didn't achieve
is mine to grant
when you have fewer conflicting desires.
All that you dreamed but didn't dare to do,
all that you hoped but did not will,
all the faith that you claimed but did not have -
these slumber lightly,
waiting to be awakened
by the touch of a strong purpose.
I am your opportunity
to renew your allegiance to Him who said,
'behold, I make all things new.'
I am the new year.
Said the good Lord Satan

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