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Bible study rules for public schools proposed

There are 143165 comments on the The Courier-Journal story from Feb 10, 2010, titled Bible study rules for public schools proposed. In it, The Courier-Journal reports that:

FRANKFORT, Ky. - The state would create rules for teaching about the Bible in public high schools under a bill filed Monday by three Democratic senators.

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Looking for hope

Georgetown, KY

#91901 Nov 26, 2012
Spaceship earth wrote:
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So, now you don't believe in miracles or just lack faith? You have just inserted your own statements as to what is said in the bible. Can you now see why some do not believe in a God. Man interpets the bible to fit his religious view of God, that's why we have so many bible version and different religious beliefs.
God said you could do it and you just lack the faith.
John 14:21
Verily, verily, I say unto you, He that believeth on me, the works that I do shall he do also; and greater works than these shall he do; because I go unto my Father.
Sorry, you just don't have faith in what Jesus said or you could do it.
Please do not twist my words . I do absolutly believe in miracles and i am certainly not lacking in faith .
I do believe with faith in God a mountain of any kind can be moved . Yes Jesus did say that i could and i have done these greater works by faith in him many times in my life . Why do you question my faith when it is you who is lacking in it .
I did not make any statement of what is said in the Bible . I did however give an interpretion of how what is said can be applied to any persons life . I tend to do that because i actually do apply it to mine . You are choosing to only read the words but not to understand them . I don't get that why you would let my interpretion of something or anyone elses confuse or effect you in anyway when you are free to pick up any version of the Bible you choose and use the common sense you have and the Understanding that God will give you if you ask to read it and know if it's the truth or not and find the meaning of the words for yourself . You can not blame any other person or religion for your lack of faith or understanding of God .

Since: Jul 12

Location hidden

#91902 Nov 26, 2012
Obviously the Catholic Church is the Whore of Babylon. The Pope, is the Antichrist and in the last days, Sunday worship will be the mark of the beast. Well according to the SDA anyway. The Seventh Day Adventist see the CC as Babylon the Great, the Mother of Prostitutes and Abominations of the Earth. I'm not all pro Catholic either, but like, chill dudes.

Puff, puff, pass.
tsepha

Winchester, KY

#91903 Nov 26, 2012
RoachClip wrote:
Obviously the Catholic Church is the Whore of Babylon. The Pope, is the Antichrist and in the last days, Sunday worship will be the mark of the beast. Well according to the SDA anyway. The Seventh Day Adventist see the CC as Babylon the Great, the Mother of Prostitutes and Abominations of the Earth. I'm not all pro Catholic either, but like, chill dudes.
Puff, puff, pass.
babylon = babel; which is any and all exoteric religions that teach that the divine can only be realized without self.

that is not possible if I AM that I AM; which is intrinsic to all things in heaven and earth as ONE.

panpsychism

there was nothing made that wasn't made of IT.

Since: Feb 12

El Dorado Hills, CA

#91904 Nov 26, 2012
Looking for hope wrote:
<quoted text>
Please do not twist my words . I do absolutly believe in miracles and i am certainly not lacking in faith .
I do believe with faith in God a mountain of any kind can be moved . Yes Jesus did say that i could and i have done these greater works by faith in him many times in my life . Why do you question my faith when it is you who is lacking in it .
I did not make any statement of what is said in the Bible . I did however give an interpretion of how what is said can be applied to any persons life . I tend to do that because i actually do apply it to mine . You are choosing to only read the words but not to understand them . I don't get that why you would let my interpretion of something or anyone elses confuse or effect you in anyway when you are free to pick up any version of the Bible you choose and use the common sense you have and the Understanding that God will give you if you ask to read it and know if it's the truth or not and find the meaning of the words for yourself . You can not blame any other person or religion for your lack of faith or understanding of God .
Because your faith is not testable. Claims of faith having no evidence but only anecdotal information or wishful thinking carry no weight.
Known fact

Cocoa Beach, FL

#91905 Nov 26, 2012
RoachClip wrote:
At the completion of Solomon's Temple the name of God was made unlawful; its public use was punishable by death by the Jews living at the time. That's harsh man. The biblical "god" has thousands of names. I'd think the one true creator of all would have one name, clear cut, precise. "I am Geroge, George of the Jungle", simple as that. But no, we have "I am that I am, YHWH, Jehovah and lots more.
Now, Moses was a hairlip, he was unable to pronounce god's name accurately and slurred out "Allah",, bless his heart, to the Pharaoh as god's name. Of course the christains always play off Moses as articulate, but sadly was not.
Would a rose by any other name, not still smell and stick you with thornes. Sure it would, plus they are good source of vitamin C.
Puff, puff, pass.
I have to respectfully disagree with you. I am that I am is not a name but describes the creator and means he becomes whatever is needed to become to accomplish his purpose. YHWH is God's name in Hebrew is translated JEHOVAH in English. The true God does not have as you say thousands of names; no he only has one name clear cut. See Psalm 83:18 in the King James Version.
Looking for hope

Georgetown, KY

#91906 Nov 26, 2012
Spaceship earth wrote:
<quoted text>
Because your faith is not testable. Claims of faith having no evidence but only anecdotal information or wishful thinking carry no weight.
If you don't believe there is anything to God or his word then that's fine , But don't you think you look a bit foolish always on here quoting him and then begging others to prove to you that he's real. You say others talking about their faith carries no weight ,carries no weight with who ? Someone who want use the good sense God gave them to see the truth . BIG supprise there !!! You know you can get though your whole life if you like with out knowing for sure there is a God,Heaven or hell but you want get through death with out knowing it, So if want to just wait till then to be sure go a head .

“There is no god”

Since: Jul 12

War, WV

#91908 Nov 27, 2012
Looking for hope wrote:
<quoted text>
If you don't believe there is anything to God or his word then that's fine , But don't you think you look a bit foolish always on here quoting him and then begging others to prove to you that he's real. You say others talking about their faith carries no weight ,carries no weight with who ? Someone who want use the good sense God gave them to see the truth . BIG supprise there !!! You know you can get though your whole life if you like with out knowing for sure there is a God,Heaven or hell but you want get through death with out knowing it, So if want to just wait till then to be sure go a head .
Dont you look foolish when some one post a bible verse where your god wants you to sacrifice animals or kill babies?

Since: Jul 12

Location hidden

#91909 Nov 27, 2012
Known fact wrote:
<quoted text>
I have to respectfully disagree with you. I am that I am is not a name but describes the creator and means he becomes whatever is needed to become to accomplish his purpose. YHWH is God's name in Hebrew is translated JEHOVAH in English. The true God does not have as you say thousands of names; no he only has one name clear cut. See Psalm 83:18 in the King James Version.
I have to respectully disagree with you. To you, god has one name,, but to the many I spoke of, there are many names used for god,,(((I did not say they were correct or accurate))), just that the biblical god has been called many things,, and this is largly do to "god" calling himself by title as well as name. A quick searh using "list of god's names" will result in thousands of names,, so sorry, he is known by to others by many names.
wadjet

Williamsburg, KY

#91910 Nov 27, 2012
Known fact wrote:
<quoted text>
I have to respectfully disagree with you. I am that I am is not a name but describes the creator and means he becomes whatever is needed to become to accomplish his purpose. YHWH is God's name in Hebrew is translated JEHOVAH in English. The true God does not have as you say thousands of names; no he only has one name clear cut. See Psalm 83:18 in the King James Version.
the name of names by the israelits was never spoken because it was considered to holy to be uttered. anyone, who spoke another language, would not have used the term

jehovah is satan. satan is saturn. saturn is sabaoth. sabaoth is sabbath. saturn an sabbath is saturday.

the ABSOLUTE has many names, daniel referred to IT as the Ancient of Days; which you notice is capitalized in this transliteration: dan 7:9 & 7:13 & 7:22.

http://www.wisdomworld.org/additional/christi...
trusted

Morgantown, KY

#91911 Nov 27, 2012
There many be many God's I dont know for sure , and I dont want to question that eaither. I just know that I pray only to the one , and it seems like I have done alot of that lately... Here's a daily one....

Once upon a time, when God had finished making the world, he wanted to leave behind a piece of His own divinity, a spark of His essence, a promise to man of what he could become, with effort. He looked for a place to hide this precious gift because, He explained, what man could find too easily would never be valued by him.

"Then you must hide this gift on the highest mountain peak on earth," said one of his counselors.

God shook His head, "No, for man is an adventuresome creature and he will soon enough learn to climb the highest mountain peaks."

"Hide it then, O Great One, in the depths of the earth."

"I think not," said God. "for man will one day discover that he can dig into the deepest parts of the earth."

"In the middle of the ocean then, Master?"

God shook His head. "I've given man a brain, you see, and one day he'll learn to build ships and cross the mightiest oceans."

"Where then, Master?" cried His counselors.

God smiled, "I'll hide it where every man and woman will be able to find it if they look sincerely and deeply enough. I'll hide it in their heart."
wirnpa

Williamsburg, KY

#91912 Nov 27, 2012
case in point of the following text

Revelation 12:12
Therefore rejoice, ye heavens, and ye that dwell in them. Woe to the inhabiters of the earth and of the sea! for the devil is come down unto you, having great wrath, because he knoweth that he hath but a short time.


why would the angels of heaven rejoice; if the devil is on earth? or how can earth be separate from heaven; when earth resides within the confines of INFINITE space/time?

we evolve consciously through adversity(devil/adversary).
wagyl

Williamsburg, KY

#91913 Nov 27, 2012
another scenario

Revelation 12:9
And the great dragon was cast out, that old serpent, called the Devil, and Satan, which deceiveth the whole world: he was cast out into the earth, and his angels were cast out with him.

John 3:13
And no man hath ascended up to heaven, but he that came down from heaven, even the Son of man which is in heaven.

looks like heaven might be hell at times

1 Kings 22:22
And the LORD said unto him, Wherewith? And he said, I will go forth, and I will be a lying spirit in the mouth of all his prophets. And he said, Thou shalt persuade him, and prevail also: go forth, and do so.

1 Kings 22:23
Now therefore, behold, the LORD hath put a lying spirit in the mouth of all these thy prophets,

2 Chronicles 18:21
And he said, I will go out, and be a lying spirit in the mouth of all his prophets. And the Lord said, Thou shalt entice him, and thou shalt also prevail: go out, and do even so.

2 Chronicles 18:22
Now therefore, behold, the LORD hath put a lying spirit in the mouth of these thy prophets, and the LORD hath spoken evil against thee.


nagaraja

Williamsburg, KY

#91914 Nov 27, 2012
the mystery? or secret teachings?

Mark 4:11
And he said unto them, Unto you it is given to know the mystery of the kingdom of God: but unto them that are without, all these things are done in parables:

be as wise as serpents and as innocent as doves.

coo. coo. coo.

birds of a feather tend to flock together

Revelation 19:17
And I saw an angel standing in the sun; and he cried with a loud voice, saying to all the fowls that fly in the midst of heaven, Come and gather yourselves together unto the supper of the great God;


satan is always associated with hell fire but why is our god a consuming fire?

Hebrews 12:29
For our God is a consuming fire.


jesus is your savior but the devil carries a pitchfork in which he casts those unworthing into the flames; so what is jesus doing with that winnowing fork?

Matthew 3:12
Whose fan is in his hand, and he will throughly purge his floor, and gather his wheat into the garner; but he will burn up the chaff with unquenchable fire.

Luke 3:17
Whose fan is in his hand, and he will throughly purge his floor, and will gather the wheat into his garner; but the chaff he will burn with fire unquenchable.


the jig is up and the lord of the dance is getting jiggy wit it

you should be dancing

pinhead
dare

Morgantown, KY

#91915 Nov 27, 2012
Today is give back Tuesday ..Could we all give one thing today? Lend a helping hand, give away some things we no longer need.. Feed someone who might need it or open the door for a stranger? We do not have to be rich to do something for someone . We can each turn things around, if only for today.

A long time ago in a far off world,
Where clouds of a different color swirled,
Lived the Bagfill Folk whose name it derives
From the way they tended to live their lives.

Each child when they became of age
Was taken aside by a self-styled sage
And given a bag made of magic and silk.
You never have seen a bag of this ilk.

'Take this bag,' the sage would say.
'You must take it everywhere, every day
'And collect pretty things and put them therein.
'To abstain from this task is a mortal sin.'

'And one day, I cannot tell you the date
'It might be soon or it might be late
'The bag will be full and on that day
'Your happiness ever more will stay.'

So out they would set, with their bags in hand,
Making their way through this far off land,
Doing their best to fill up their sacks
With treasures and trinkets and other nik naks.

But no matter how many prizes they got,
(Some got a few and some got a lot),
The bags never seemed to get any fuller
And the searching began to get duller and duller.

'What is the point?' they began to ask.
'Why are we doing this thankless task?'
Then the sages would come and make them feel small
For daring to question the point of it all.

One day there appeared (were not sure from where)
A man who the fear merchants just could not scare
He strode through the land with his head held high,
Giving and helping without asking why.

The sages tried every trick in the book
To make others think that this man was a crook,
But to those who had met him, it soon became clear
That his motives were pure and his actions sincere.

They followed and asked him why he was not scared
And from where he was getting the things that he shared
'Its simple,' he said,'needs no thinking about,
'I just took my bag and turned it inside out.'
nataraja

Williamsburg, KY

#91916 Nov 27, 2012
the white horse

kalki
http://www.volker-doormann.org/fly_horse.htm

Revelation 6:2
And I saw, and behold a white horse: and he that sat on him had a bow; and a crown was given unto him: and he went forth conquering, and to conquer.

Revelation 19:11
And I saw heaven opened, and behold a white horse; and he that sat upon him was called Faithful and True, and in righteousness he doth judge and make war.


conference of the birds
Come you lost Atoms to your Centre draw, And be the Eternal Mirror that you saw: Rays that have wander'd into Darkness wide Return and back into your Sun subside

cernnunnos dancing

round and round we go sufi where we stop nobody knows

the foxes have dens
the birds have nests
but the son of man
has no where to lay his head.

ride on time
black box
cernunnos

Williamsburg, KY

#91917 Nov 27, 2012
gut brain are you intuit?

http://www.health.harvard.edu/healthbeat/the-...

http://www.scientificamerican.com/article.cfm...

your guess is as good mine

Genesis 3:14
And the LORD God said unto the serpent, Because thou hast done this, thou art cursed above all cattle, and above every beast of the field; upon thy belly shalt thou go, and dust shalt thou eat all the days of thy life:


http://www.ted.com/talks/heribert_watzke_the_...

quetzalcoatl dancing
domba dancing
cernunnos dancing
Looking for hope

Georgetown, KY

#91918 Nov 27, 2012
Satanic Priest wrote:
<quoted text>Dont you look foolish when some one post a bible verse where your god wants you to sacrifice animals or kill babies?
If that ever happens then the one posting it will look foolish because it will not be true .

Since: Feb 12

El Dorado Hills, CA

#91919 Nov 27, 2012
Looking for hope wrote:
<quoted text>
If you don't believe there is anything to God or his word then that's fine , But don't you think you look a bit foolish always on here quoting him and then begging others to prove to you that he's real. You say others talking about their faith carries no weight ,carries no weight with who ? Someone who want use the good sense God gave them to see the truth . BIG supprise there !!! You know you can get though your whole life if you like with out knowing for sure there is a God,Heaven or hell but you want get through death with out knowing it, So if want to just wait till then to be sure go a head .
If you feel that way, why do you disobey Jesus admonishment?

Matt 7:6
"Do not give what is holy to dogs, and do not throw your pearls before swine, or they will trample them under their feet, and turn and tear you to pieces.

On the other hand I'm testing just like the bible says you should do, obeying what Jesus said.

1 John 4:1

Beloved, do not believe every spirit, but test the spirits, whether they are of God; because many false prophets have gone out into the world.

I have not discuss hardly any doctrinal issues with you. I just followed what the bible says about faith. Christians who debate on hear puzzle me at times when tested about their faith and conviently dismiss scriptures in their own bible when questioned.
Looking for hope

Georgetown, KY

#91922 Nov 27, 2012
Spaceship earth wrote:
<quoted text>
If you feel that way, why do you disobey Jesus admonishment?
Matt 7:6
"Do not give what is holy to dogs, and do not throw your pearls before swine, or they will trample them under their feet, and turn and tear you to pieces.
On the other hand I'm testing just like the bible says you should do, obeying what Jesus said.
1 John 4:1
Beloved, do not believe every spirit, but test the spirits, whether they are of God; because many false prophets have gone out into the world.
I have not discuss hardly any doctrinal issues with you. I just followed what the bible says about faith. Christians who debate on hear puzzle me at times when tested about their faith and conviently dismiss scriptures in their own bible when questioned.
Like it or not SpaceShip earth I know Jesus Christ . I have been washed in his blood and i am going to live forever . I do fellow Gods word and do apply it to my life . He said to go out and tell the good news and i do . You make the mistake of thinking because you've read it and can quote from it you can now use it and that will carry weight as you call it with anyone . You say you are testing like Jesus said to do .
In order for you to be capable of doing that you would need to recieve the Holy Spirit because that is where the ability to discern who are the hogs , swines and posseser of evil spirits are .Without it you are as blind to the truth as they are .
I've dimissed no questions about my faith or Scriptures . It's you who dismisses the answers that you are given and that is fine because those are my answers but it's no excuse for you to just throw what you know is true away and not even try to gain understanding of it for yourself simply because you don't agree with someone elses interpretion it. How can you agree or disagree when you have no idea yourself of what it really says . Go to the source and ask him then maybe you can stop wiening about other people not giving you the answers you need hear .
I do have the Holy Spirit a live in me and therefore i do have discernment if you notice i converse very little on here with anyone other then you . I do not give what is HOLY to a dog or cast my pearls to a swine .

“Speaker of Mountain Wisdom....”

Since: Jan 10

London, KY

#91923 Nov 27, 2012
Looking for hope wrote:
<quoted text>
Like it or not SpaceShip earth I know Jesus Christ . I have been washed in his blood and i am going to live forever . I do fellow Gods word and do apply it to my life . He said to go out and tell the good news and i do . You make the mistake of thinking because you've read it and can quote from it you can now use it and that will carry weight as you call it with anyone . You say you are testing like Jesus said to do .
In order for you to be capable of doing that you would need to recieve the Holy Spirit because that is where the ability to discern who are the hogs , swines and posseser of evil spirits are .Without it you are as blind to the truth as they are .
I've dimissed no questions about my faith or Scriptures . It's you who dismisses the answers that you are given and that is fine because those are my answers but it's no excuse for you to just throw what you know is true away and not even try to gain understanding of it for yourself simply because you don't agree with someone elses interpretion it. How can you agree or disagree when you have no idea yourself of what it really says . Go to the source and ask him then maybe you can stop wiening about other people not giving you the answers you need hear .
I do have the Holy Spirit a live in me and therefore i do have discernment if you notice i converse very little on here with anyone other then you . I do not give what is HOLY to a dog or cast my pearls to a swine .
Washed in Blood.... Eweeeeee.... nasty....

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