LOLZ

Science Hill, KY

#185 Dec 2, 2012
Opinion wrote:
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Except.... putting your children at the mercy of a school system and a social system that sticks their nose up at prayer.
God helps those who helps themselfs. Hiring someones husban that works at the board as a teacher doesn't who isn't even close to one help anyone.
perhaps

Science Hill, KY

#186 Dec 2, 2012
Don't see what one has to do with the other.
agree

Manchester, KY

#187 Dec 2, 2012
Teacher work hard they deserve a raise

Since: Jun 11

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#188 Dec 3, 2012
agree wrote:
Teacher work hard they deserve a raise
teachers should be held accountable for their students performance and not get raises just because
For Real

Williamsburg, KY

#189 Dec 3, 2012
Most people would not put up with kids and the way the behave today for all the money in the world not all kids act the same but some behave like the were out of the mountians and lost in the wild for yrs.
Agree

Somerset, KY

#190 Dec 3, 2012
For Real wrote:
Most people would not put up with kids and the way the behave today for all the money in the world not all kids act the same but some behave like the were out of the mountians and lost in the wild for yrs.
Teachers should not be held accountable for something they cannot control.(STUDENTS PERFORMANCE) School districts should develope a solid presntable, comprehensive and understandable cirriculum. The teacher should be held accountable for using this and professionally teaching from this.

The students thier parents and thier guardians and families bear sole responsibility for the performance and results of each individual student.

The teacher developes solid lesson plans, maintains classroom order and teaches from the set cirriculum, through thier lesson plan then grades the results. Thier review should be based on this not what some spoiled brat does with it.

If you are only seeking day care, a baby sitter or a place for your kids to go to... so you can do your thing then school aint gonna help your child, no matter where it goes or who the teacher is.
elmer fud

Corbin, KY

#191 Dec 3, 2012
If someone don't get a hold on this mess and soon you are going to see the state take over because when it becomes to money look out. Then you won't be working for the one in office now it will be a complete new staff, not just Central Office it will be District wide. They will have the power to Fire on spot look what they did in Whitley County a few years back. Then you will see a new School System from top to bottom and a bunch of new faces it coming just wait and see. Just a matter of time.

“Speaker of Mountain Wisdom....”

Since: Jan 10

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#192 Dec 3, 2012
Agree wrote:
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Teachers should not be held accountable for something they cannot control.(STUDENTS PERFORMANCE) School districts should develope a solid presntable, comprehensive and understandable cirriculum. The teacher should be held accountable for using this and professionally teaching from this.
The students thier parents and thier guardians and families bear sole responsibility for the performance and results of each individual student.
The teacher developes solid lesson plans, maintains classroom order and teaches from the set cirriculum, through thier lesson plan then grades the results. Thier review should be based on this not what some spoiled brat does with it.
If you are only seeking day care, a baby sitter or a place for your kids to go to... so you can do your thing then school aint gonna help your child, no matter where it goes or who the teacher is.
Absolutely.... But there needs to be some quantifiable measure of the teachers ability to perform and follow said lesson plan, and provides the lessons in a manor which is learn-able... If a teacher just stands in front of a class and gives a speech each day, never engages in the students, does not help students understand the information provided when approached for such help then those teachers should not be teachers.... Teachers need to perform to a testable, objective level of ability or be able to be fired for cause.
possible

Somerset, KY

#193 Dec 3, 2012
elmer fud wrote:
If someone don't get a hold on this mess and soon you are going to see the state take over because when it becomes to money look out. Then you won't be working for the one in office now it will be a complete new staff, not just Central Office it will be District wide. They will have the power to Fire on spot look what they did in Whitley County a few years back. Then you will see a new School System from top to bottom and a bunch of new faces it coming just wait and see. Just a matter of time.
That is a possibility but unlikely in Knox County. The Administration seems to be doing a decent job, trying to move in the right direction. The primary problem is not the teachers, the individual schools or the average students. The problem seems to be that there is change going on and that change is ruffling the feathers of the old establishment.

The state knows the situation in the system, the past problems, the current problems and the clanish, vindictive mentality of a backward social system. They also know it will take a long time for basic changes to take place..

I do not expect the state to intervene but rather to monitor the system and that is a positive for the county...The fact that the state has not intervened, as it has in other systems. A sign that things are changing and starting to move in the right direction.
possible

Somerset, KY

#194 Dec 3, 2012
Quantummist wrote:
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Absolutely.... But there needs to be some quantifiable measure of the teachers ability to perform and follow said lesson plan, and provides the lessons in a manor which is learn-able... If a teacher just stands in front of a class and gives a speech each day, never engages in the students, does not help students understand the information provided when approached for such help then those teachers should not be teachers.... Teachers need to perform to a testable, objective level of ability or be able to be fired for cause.
Excellent addendum.
LOLZ

Science Hill, KY

#195 Dec 3, 2012
possible wrote:
<quoted text>
That is a possibility but unlikely in Knox County. The Administration seems to be doing a decent job, trying to move in the right direction. The primary problem is not the teachers, the individual schools or the average students. The problem seems to be that there is change going on and that change is ruffling the feathers of the old establishment.
The state knows the situation in the system, the past problems, the current problems and the clanish, vindictive mentality of a backward social system. They also know it will take a long time for basic changes to take place..
I do not expect the state to intervene but rather to monitor the system and that is a positive for the county...The fact that the state has not intervened, as it has in other systems. A sign that things are changing and starting to move in the right direction.
The state need to intervene 100%
LOLZ

Science Hill, KY

#196 Dec 3, 2012
Quantummist wrote:
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Absolutely.... But there needs to be some quantifiable measure of the teachers ability to perform and follow said lesson plan, and provides the lessons in a manor which is learn-able... If a teacher just stands in front of a class and gives a speech each day, never engages in the students, does not help students understand the information provided when approached for such help then those teachers should not be teachers.... Teachers need to perform to a testable, objective level of ability or be able to be fired for cause.
Not these teachers. they just need to know someone then just wait for the fake interview process to finish for the qualified teachers applying because legally the school has to post the job publicly and then once hired learn to repeat the mantra of blaiming the parents.
LOLZ

Science Hill, KY

#197 Dec 3, 2012
elmer fud wrote:
you are going to see the state take over .
Now thats something to pray for.
possible

Somerset, KY

#198 Dec 3, 2012
LOLZ wrote:
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Not these teachers. they just need to know someone then just wait for the fake interview process to finish for the qualified teachers applying because legally the school has to post the job publicly and then once hired learn to repeat the mantra of blaiming the parents.
Your personal agenda, whatever it is, is one of the reasons the average student fights an uphill battle in the system. The disinterested parents or the rejected wanna be employees do more damage to the system than all the so called bad teachers and administrators combined. If the system is so bad, why do you wanna be a part of it? The state sees through the likes of you and probably smiles. The system is improving and the regulators see it...You loose, accept it and move on. Let the kids progress above your vindictive reasoning.
LOLZ

Science Hill, KY

#199 Dec 3, 2012
possible wrote:
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Your personal agenda, whatever it is, is one of the reasons the average student fights an uphill battle in the system. The disinterested parents or the rejected wanna be employees do more damage to the system than all the so called bad teachers and administrators combined. If the system is so bad, why do you wanna be a part of it? The state sees through the likes of you and probably smiles. The system is improving and the regulators see it...You loose, accept it and move on. Let the kids progress above your vindictive reasoning.
The state is there for a reason.....and the reason isn't me.
perhaps

Science Hill, KY

#200 Dec 3, 2012
The state did intervene when they made Knox Central a PLA school and removed its principal Roark and the SBDM so don't get too comfortable.
possible wrote:
<quoted text>
That is a possibility but unlikely in Knox County. The Administration seems to be doing a decent job, trying to move in the right direction. The primary problem is not the teachers, the individual schools or the average students. The problem seems to be that there is change going on and that change is ruffling the feathers of the old establishment.
The state knows the situation in the system, the past problems, the current problems and the clanish, vindictive mentality of a backward social system. They also know it will take a long time for basic changes to take place..
I do not expect the state to intervene but rather to monitor the system and that is a positive for the county...The fact that the state has not intervened, as it has in other systems. A sign that things are changing and starting to move in the right direction.
possible

Somerset, KY

#201 Dec 3, 2012
perhaps wrote:
The state did intervene when they made Knox Central a PLA school and removed its principal Roark and the SBDM so don't get too comfortable.
<quoted text>
Interventions happen regularly in many districts and individual schools..nothing new. Since this was the only action that they saw as necessary says lots more good than bad about the system. Its not a matter of comfort...its a matter of fact and truth.
possible

Somerset, KY

#202 Dec 3, 2012
perhaps wrote:
The state did intervene when they made Knox Central a PLA school and removed its principal Roark and the SBDM so don't get too comfortable.
<quoted text>
To be honest, this list included, Brian Station in Lex, Perry Co. Central, Pulaski co Central along with 16 other schools from all over the state. It is not an indictment against Knox Central or against the Knox County system. It primarily identifies schools that require some changes and additional funding to improve. Try to be honest and show the truth, not show partial facts because of bias.
Concerned

Barbourville, KY

#203 Dec 3, 2012
elmer fud wrote:
If someone don't get a hold on this mess and soon you are going to see the state take over because when it becomes to money look out. Then you won't be working for the one in office now it will be a complete new staff, not just Central Office it will be District wide. They will have the power to Fire on spot look what they did in Whitley County a few years back. Then you will see a new School System from top to bottom and a bunch of new faces it coming just wait and see. Just a matter of time.
I'd like more information regarding the clearing out of the Whitley County Central office and/or district. I'm pretty sure that until the last year or so, Whitley County has had the same superintendent for about two decades. When exactly did this take place?
perhaps

Science Hill, KY

#204 Dec 3, 2012
The whitley County thing happened before Lonnie Anderson so probably around 1989 or 90. As for the state sanctions, the FACTS are that not all the schools listed as PLA schools had their principal or their SBDM removed, so yes, it is a reflection on the District. Also the number of focus schools identified in Knox this year is a very high percentage of schools. The state is not pleased with Knox but more iportantly should be the taxpayers in this county not being pleased and the parents are already not pleased and many have sent their kids to get better educations in Corbin and barbourville.

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