'Fox News Sunday' to Host Kentucky Senate Debate

"Fox News Sunday" is heading to Louisville, Ky. Jack Conway, Kentucky's attorney general and the Democratic candidate for Senate , and Rand Paul, the Republican nominee and son of Representative Ron Paul, Republican of Texas, have agreed to a live debate on "Fox News Sunday" on Oct.3 at 9 a.m. (Eastern time).

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Teahad

Wichita, KS

#160188 Apr 4, 2014
RepubliCONS wrote:
The Daily-Ish: Dubya Paints, Louie Gohmert and Allen West Keep the Crazy Train Going
After his presidency ended, Jimmy Carter founded the Carter Center. Even today, he travels extensively, working to advance important disease prevention and eradication efforts in developing nations, conduct peace negotiations, and observe elections. George H.W. Bush served as honorary chairman for an organization dedicated to solving social problems through volunteer service, and up until recently, was involved in several other humanitarian causes. Bill Clinton founded the Clinton Global Initiative.
George W. Bush? He paints. Not that there is anything wrong with painting, in fact I like to paint and I think the arts are great. But, while other former presidents donate much of their time to charity, this dunce paints… And pictures of himself in a bathtub no less. Yeah, you heard that correctly, pictures of himself in the bathtub! Gross. That’s like 10x worse than duck face selfies.
On Thursday, Huffington Post reported that,“Former President George W. Bush admitted he was “annoyed” by hackers who leaked images of his paintings, specifically one of himself in the bathtub he painted to “shock” his art instructor.” Talk about a “shock and awe” campaign. Hey, at least for this one Bush can say,“Mission Accomplished,” and actually mean it.
Now, to be fair, he is opening an exhibit at his presidential library called “The Art of Leadership,” which will feature “more than two dozen never-before-exhibited portraits painted by President Bush,” according to Time. However, wouldn’t the project be so much better if there was a social purpose behind it? Bush could go to low income neighborhoods and teach painting to poor kids. That at least would be commendable.
Though the truth is that Bush should really be painting from a jail cell. Not for being a dunce, but for being the dunce that allowed Dick Cheney and his cronies to basically control his entire presidency and manufacture a war that left hundreds of thousands dead. And some people will ask,“Well how can he be a dunce and a criminal genius at the same time?” Cheney was the genius, Bush got duped, they both should be charged with war crimes.
Anyways, I guess in the end it’s better that he paints. At least he isn’t hurting anyone by doing so, unless of course you count the people who have been blinded by the sight of him in a bathtub. Le sigh.
CONtinued:
RIP GOP
DITCH MITCH
LMAO!!! You're just pissed, since your paintings aren't good enough to exhibit!!! You're jealous!!

“"Who's happier than me?"”

Since: Oct 11

Merry Christmas!

#160189 Apr 4, 2014
Mao-bama Zombies wrote:
<quoted text>
tofy ...county doesn't turn anybody away, just because you don't have insurance ...including Illegals ...NO ONE GET REFUSED TREATMENT ...do you get that...?????
No my point was, if only the people who could afford health-care had it, it would be useless because the avenues for people who couldn't afford it or none of the other programs existed to help people...then diseases would over take us all. Besides if ER services were available to help an outbreak of any disease the lines would be so long they couldn't handle a rush of that magnitude anyway.
Peace
tofy
Mao-bama Zombies

United States

#160190 Apr 4, 2014
this ones for you wrote:
<quoted text> No my point was, if only the people who could afford health-care had it, it would be useless because the avenues for people who couldn't afford it or none of the other programs existed to help people...then diseases would over take us all. Besides if ER services were available to help an outbreak of any disease the lines would be so long they couldn't handle a rush of that magnitude anyway.
Peace
tofy
And again tofy...we had in almost every corner free clinics for Americans that couldn't afford to pay for health care, but that was before illegals storm and this clinics are now closed ...that was when we deported all illegals and America used to be for those that followed the rule of law, law of the land ...and for those that use to work and it was embarrassed to be on welfare ...for those that use to work heard to get somewhere in life...those was good old days in America ...days when liberals didn't buy votes ... days, when was embarrassed to say..."The first time in my adult life, I'm proud of my country"... Michelle Obama...!! and some have GUTS to criticize me, when I said something about liberals ...I ALWAYS LOVED MY COUNTRY ...MY AMERICA ... Obama and Michelle said crap and crap again and again against this country, but that is OK...??! Don't forget rev. Jeremiah Wright ...
Mao-bama Zombies

Whittier, CA

#160191 Apr 4, 2014
Teahad wrote:
<quoted text>Hilarious spin y'all gleaned from that 30 second clip!! Hell, I should have just stated, "more communist BS" and saved myself some characters.
What else is new...?? Pages and pages and more pages nothing, but libdirt communist garbage. Just makes it more difficult to read some posts you really like. She always attacks people she don't like, always asking for Jay, Ari, AL wtf and others, because she is miserable with her such a beautiful retirement from the union. Her traveling salesman boyfriend or what ever, comes once a while so, she is very lonely in her 'big comfy bed', she always looks for someone to start the fight...!!
She is one really miserable individual always on attack like a bulldog ...!!
Commietator

Providence, KY

#160192 Apr 4, 2014
Mao-bama Zombies wrote:
<quoted text>
tofy ...county doesn't turn anybody away, just because you don't have insurance ...including Illegals ...NO ONE GET REFUSED TREATMENT ...do you get that...?????
Do you know why no one is refused treatment? Let me help you with that one.
.
A socialist commie President signed a LAW that forces all healthcare providers to treat everyone regardless of anything. i.e. illegal, non-payment.
Who was this commie socialist President that would do such a thing in America?
.
Ronald Reagan signed the Emergency Medical Treatment and Active Labor Act in 1986 forcing all providers to treat everyone.
Mao-bama Zombies

United States

#160194 Apr 4, 2014
who="Commietator "<quoted text>Do you know why no one is refused treatment? Let me help you with that one.
.
A socialist commie President signed a LAW that forces all healthcare providers to treat everyone regardless of anything. i.e. illegal, non-payment.
Who was this commie socialist President that would do such a thing in America?
.
Ronald Reagan signed the Emergency Medical Treatment and Active Labor Act in 1986 forcing all providers to treat everyone.
Thanks but no thanks...I don't need you help, I already know that...discussion was about so many under Obamacare going on Medical and Medicare anyway...how many paid for Obamacare, that was my point.
Why everything is flying over your head...?????
Teahad

Wichita, KS

#160200 Apr 4, 2014
Mao-bama Zombies wrote:
<quoted text>
What else is new...?? Pages and pages and more pages nothing, but libdirt communist garbage. Just makes it more difficult to read some posts you really like. She always attacks people she don't like, always asking for Jay, Ari, AL wtf and others, because she is miserable with her such a beautiful retirement from the union. Her traveling salesman boyfriend or what ever, comes once a while so, she is very lonely in her 'big comfy bed', she always looks for someone to start the fight...!!
She is one really miserable individual always on attack like a bulldog ...!!
Hell, most of the time I don't read her BS, it's just more commie propaganda (BS).
Teahad

Wichita, KS

#160201 Apr 4, 2014
RepubliCONS wrote:
McConnell’s poetic nightmare: How crass Obamacare sabotage could end his career
Once upon a time, backing Obamacare's repeal was a popular position. Then nearly 400,000 Kentuckians got healthcare
Back in 2013, when Healthcare.gov was broken and the Affordable Care Act faced a grimly uncertain future, I imagined a future in which Obamacare rolled into a disaster mitigated only by the existence of a few bright spots — the states that had competently developed their own exchanges and were successfully expanding coverage, untethered from the horrendous rollout of the federal marketplace.
Most of those were reliably liberal states like California and Connecticut. But one of them was Kentucky, whose Democratic Gov. Steve Beshear had singlehandedly expanded the state’s Medicaid program and built one of the best functioning enrollment websites in the country.
When I wrote this article in mid-November, Healthcare.gov signups were embarrassingly low, but Kentucky had accepted President Obama’s offer to allow insurers to reinstate canceled plans and was already reducing its uninsured population. Under the circumstances, I wondered what this all meant for Mitch McConnell. As Senate Republican leader, and a contender in a nasty primary, he was obligated to redouble his commitment to repeal the Affordable Care Act. But as a general election candidate and the senior senator from Kentucky, he would have an obligation to offer his constituents more than an open-ended pledge to return tens of thousands of state residents to the ranks of the uninsured.
McConnell’s current position — his position for the past three and a half years — is that the law “needs to be eliminated and we need to start over.”
But before Obamacare, over 17 percent of non-elderly Kentuckians were uninsured. If Obamacare knocks that figure into the single digits next year…how long will his position hold? His leadership role is about to come into exquisite tension with his responsibility to his own constituents.
I think that moment is finally upon us.
Kentucky says it booked 77,044 enrollments in private qualified health plans and 286,222 Medicaid enrollments through March 31. A total of more than 360,000 through Kynect (the state’s exchange) alone. State officials confirmed to me Wednesday that the numbers do not include enrollments through outside channels, and that their preliminary analysis suggests that 75 percent (or more than 270,000) were previously uninsured.
That’s over 40 percent of the state’s entire uninsured population. If the number holds and improves then Obamacare has already reduced the state’s total, and non-elderly, uninsurance rate from double to single digits. And McConnell’s position is that the double-digit number should return. That’s probably not quite as politically unsupportable as, say, advocating a direct increase in the unemployment rate, but generally speaking it is not advisable politics.
Kentucky did unusually well. It had a high uninsurance rate to begin with, and seems to have done a better job isolating that population than other states. Seventy five percent will be hard for any state to match. But Alaska, Lousiana and North Carolina actually have higher uninsurance rates than Kentucky did. And though Obamacare most likely reduced those rates somewhat, those races would be cast in different light if the effect had been several times as large.
Read more:
http://www.salon.com/2014/04/03/mcconnells_po...
RIP GOP
DITCH MITCH
Hell, give Obama enough time, he has pretty much overturned the ACA by himself.
Teahad

Wichita, KS

#160204 Apr 4, 2014
38 Changes to ObamaCare…So Far
March 26, 2014 tags:CLASS Act, Exchanges, Health insurance, Individual mandate, Medicaid, Medicare, Medicare Advantage, ObamaCare, physicians, State issues, Supreme Court, Waiver
By Tyler Hartsfield and Grace-Marie Turner
By our count at the Galen Institute, more than 38 significant changes already have been made to ObamaCare: at least 21 that the Obama Administration has made unilaterally, 15 that Congress has passed and the president has signed, and two by the Supreme Court.
CHANGES BY ADMINISTRATIVE ACTION
1. Medicare Advantage patch: The administration ordered an advance draw on funds from a Medicare bonus program in order to provide extra payments to Medicare Advantage plans, in an effort to temporarily forestall cuts in benefits and therefore delay early exodus of MA plans from the program.(April 19, 2011)
2. Employee reporting: The administration, contrary to the Obamacare legislation, instituted a one-year delay of the requirement that employers must report to their employees on their W-2 forms the full cost of their employer-provided health insurance.(January 1, 2012)
3. Subsidies may flow through federal exchanges: The IRS issued a rule that allows premium assistance tax credits to be available in federal exchanges although the law only specified that they would be available “through an Exchange established by the State under Section 1311.”(May 23, 2012)
4. Closing the high-risk pool: The administration decided to halt enrollment in transitional federal high-risk pools created by the law, blocking coverage for an estimated 40,000 new applicants, citing a lack of funds. The administration had money from a fund under Secretary Sebelius’s control to extend the pools, but instead used the money to pay for advertising for Obamacare enrollment and other purposes.(February 15, 2013)
5. Doubling allowed deductibles: Because some group health plans use more than one benefits administrator, plans are allowed to apply separate patient cost-sharing limits for one year to different services, such as doctor/hospital and prescription drugs, allowing maximum out-of-pocket costs to be twice as high as the law intended.(February 20, 2013)
6. Small businesses on hold: The administration has said that the federal exchanges for small businesses will not be ready by the 2014 statutory deadline, and instead delayed until 2015 the provision of SHOP (Small-Employer Health Option Program) that requires the exchanges to offer a choice of qualified health plans.(March 11, 2013)
7. Delaying a low-income plan: The administration delayed implementation of the Basic Health Program until 2015. It would have provided more-affordable health coverage for certain low-income individuals not eligible for Medicaid.(March 22, 2013)
8. Employer-mandate delay: By an administrative action that’s contrary to statutory language in the ACA, the reporting requirements for employers were delayed by one year.(July 2, 2013)
9. Self-attestation: Because of the difficulty of verifying income after the employer-reporting requirement was delayed, the administration decided it would allow “self-attestation” of income by applicants for health insurance in the exchanges. This was later partially retracted after congressional and public outcry over the likelihood of fraud.(July 15, 2013)
10. Delaying the online SHOP exchange: The administration first delayed for a month and later for a year until November 2014 the launch of the online insurance marketplace for small businesses. The exchange was originally scheduled to launch on October 1, 2013.(September 26, 2013)(November 27, 2013)
11. Congressional opt-out: The administration decided to offer employer contributions to members of Congress and their staffs when they purchase insurance on the exchanges created by the ACA, a subsidy the law doesn’t provide.(September 30, 2013)
Mao-bama Zombies

United States

#160205 Apr 4, 2014
Teahad wrote:
<quoted text>Hell, most of the time I don't read her BS, it's just more commie propaganda (BS).
Hell yes, you're right ...!!
Teahad

Wichita, KS

#160207 Apr 4, 2014
12. Delaying the individual mandate: The administration changed the deadline for the individual mandate, by declaring that customers who have purchased insurance by March 31, 2014 will avoid the tax penalty. Previously, they would have had to purchase a plan by mid-February.(October 23, 2013)
13. Insurance companies may offer canceled plans: The administration announced that insurance companies may reoffer plans that previous regulations forced them to cancel.(November 14, 2013)
14. Exempting unions from reinsurance fee: The administration gave unions an exemption from the reinsurance fee (one of ObamaCare’s many new taxes). To make up for this exemption, non-exempt plans will have to pay a higher fee, which will likely be passed onto consumers in the form of higher premiums and deductibles.(December 2, 2013)
15. Extending Preexisting Condition Insurance Plan: The administration extended the federal high risk pool until January 31, 2014 and again until March 15, 2014 to prevent a coverage gap for the most vulnerable. The plans were scheduled to expire on December 31, but were extended because it has been impossible for some to sign up for new coverage on healthcare.gov .(December 12, 2013)(January 14, 2014)
16. Expanding hardship waiver to those with canceled plans: The administration expanded the hardship waiver, which excludes people from the individual mandate and allows some to purchase catastrophic health insurance, to people who have had their plans canceled because of ObamaCare regulations. The administration later extended this waiver until October 1, 2016.(December 19, 2013)(March 5, 2014)
17. Equal employer coverage delayed: Tax officials will not be enforcing in 2014 the mandate requiring employers to offer equal coverage to all their employees. This provision of the law was supposed to go into effect in 2010, but IRS officials have “yet to issue regulations for employers to follow.”(January 18, 2014)
18. Employer-mandate delayed again: The administration delayed for an additional year provisions of the employer mandate, postponing enforcement of the requirement for medium-size employers until 2016 and relaxing some requirements for larger employers. Businesses with 100 or more employees must offer coverage to 70% of their full-time employees in 2015 and 95% in 2016 and beyond.(February 10, 2014)
19. Extending subsidies to non-exchange plans: The administration released a bulletin through CMS extending subsidies to individuals who purchased health insurance plans outside of the federal or state exchanges. The bulletin also requires retroactive coverage and subsidies for individuals from the date they applied on the marketplace rather than the date they actually enrolled in a plan.(February 27, 2014)
Mao-bama Zombies

United States

#160208 Apr 4, 2014
Calvin_Coolish wrote:
<quoted text>
"Nothing about HUMAN RIGHTS of women on Middle East, or old men marrying little girls ? Woman of Middle East have to SUBMIT to HER husband. She is nothing but his property"
Straight out of the Bible...your Bible
Bible or Quran ...it's wrong ...!!

Submit to 'man' or anyone else, when hell freezes over...!
Teahad

Wichita, KS

#160209 Apr 4, 2014
20. Non-compliant health plans get two year extension: The administration pushed back the deadline by two years that requires health insurers to cancel plans that are not compliant with ObamaCare’s mandates. These “illegal” plans may now be offered until 2017. This extension will prevent a wave cancellation notices from going out before the 2014 midterm elections.(March 5, 2014)

21. Delaying the sign-up deadline: The administration delayed until mid-April the March 31 deadline to sign up for insurance. Applicants simply need to check a box on their application to qualify for this extended sign-up period.(March 26, 2014)

CHANGES BY CONGRESS, SIGNED BY PRESIDENT OBAMA:

22. Military benefits: Congress clarified that plans provided by TRICARE, the military’s health-insurance program, constitutes minimal essential health-care coverage as required by the ACA; its benefits and plans wouldn’t normally meet ACA requirements.(April 26, 2010)

23. VA benefits: Congress also clarified that health care provided by the Department of Veterans Affairs constitutes minimum essential health-care coverage as required by the ACA.(May 27, 2010)

24. Drug-price clarification: Congress modified the definition of average manufacturer price (AMP) to include inhalation, infusion, implanted, or injectable drugs that are not generally dispensed through a retail pharmacy.(August 10, 2010)

25. Doc-fix tax: Congress modified the amount of premium tax credits that individuals would have to repay if they are over-allotted, an action designed to help offset the costs of the postponement of cuts in Medicare physician payments called for in the ACA.(December 15, 2010)

26. Extending the adoption credit: Congress extended the nonrefundable adoption tax credit, which happened to be included in the ACA, through tax year 2012.(December 17, 2010)

27. TRICARE for adult children: Congress extended TRICARE coverage to dependent adult children up to age 26 when it had previously only covered those up to the age of 21 — though beneficiaries still have to pay premiums for them.(January 7, 2011)

28. 1099 repealed: Congress repealed the paperwork (“1099”) mandate that would have required businesses to report to the IRS all of their transactions with vendors totaling $600 or more in a year.(April 14, 2011)

29. No free-choice vouchers: Congress repealed a program, supported by Senator Ron Wyden (D., Ore.) that would have allowed “free-choice vouchers,” that the Hill warned “could lead young, healthy workers to opt out” of their employer plans,“driving up costs for everybody else.” The same law barred additional funds for the IRS to hire new agents to enforce the health-care law.(April 15, 2011)

30. No Medicaid for well-to-do seniors: Congress saved taxpayers $13 billion by changing how the eligibility for certain programs is calculated under Obamacare. Without the change, a couple earning as much as much as $64,000 would still have been able to qualify for Medicaid.(November 21, 2011)
Teahad

Wichita, KS

#160210 Apr 4, 2014
31. CO-OPs, IPAB, IRS defunded: Congress made cuts to agencies implementing Obamacare. It trimmed $400 million off the CO-OP program, cut $305 million from the IRS to hamper its ability to enforce the law’s tax hikes and mandates, and rescinded $10 million in funding for the controversial Independent Payment Advisory Board.(December 23, 2011)

32. Slush-fund savings: Congress slashed another $11.6 billion from the Prevention and Public Health slush fund and $2.5 billion from Obamacare’s “Louisiana Purchase.”(February 22, 2012)

33. Less cash for Louisiana: One of the tricks used to get Obamacare through the Senate was the special “Louisiana Purchase” deal for the state’s Democratic senator, Mary Landrieu. Congress saved another $670 million by rescinding additional funds from this bargain.(July 6, 2012)

34. CLASS Act eliminated: Congress repealed the unsustainable CLASS (Community Living Assistance Services and Supports) program of government-subsidized long-term-care insurance, which even the Democratic chairman of the Senate Finance Committee dubbed a “Ponzi scheme of the first order.”(January 2, 2013)

35. Cutting CO-OPs: Congress cut $2.2 billion from the “Consumer Operated and Oriented Plan”(CO-OP), which some saw as a stealth public option, blocking creation of government-subsidized co-op insurance programs in about half the states. Early reports showed many co-ops, which had received federal loans, had run into serious financial trouble.(January 2, 2013)

36. Trimming the Medicare trust-fund transfer: Congress rescinded $200 million of the $500 million scheduled to be taken from the Medicare Part A and Part B trust funds and sent to the Community-Based Care Transition Program established and funded by the ACA.(March 26, 2013)

CHANGES BY THE SUPREME COURT:

37. Medicaid expansion made voluntary: The court ruled it had to be voluntary, rather than mandatory, for states to expand Medicaid eligibility to people with incomes up to 138 percent of the federal poverty level, by ruling that the federal government couldn’t halt funds for existing state Medicaid programs if they chose not to expand the program.

38. The individual mandate made a tax: The court determined that violating the mandate that Americans must purchase government-approved health insurance would only result in individuals’ paying a “tax,” making it, legally speaking, optional for people to comply.

This list was originally published HERE on Galen.org and has been published on National Review Online. It was updated to 29 changes on December 10, 2013.

December 13, 2013 UPDATE: 30 changes (PCIP extension)
December 19, 2013 UPDATE: 31 changes (Hardship waiver)
January 14, 2014 UPDATE: 32 changes (Union reinsurance fee exemption)
January 14, 2014 UPDATE:(PCIP extended again)
January 21, 2014 UPDATE: 33 changes (Equal employer coverage delay)
February 3, 2014 UPDATE: 34 changes (Subsidies may flow through federal exchanges)(List is now ordered chronologically)
February 10, 2014 UPDATE: 35 changes (Second employer mandate delay)
March 5, 2014 UPDATE: 36 changes (Subsidies extended outside of exchanges)
26, 2014 UPDATE: 38 changes (Sign-up deadline delayed)
March 5, 2014 UPDATE: 37 changes (Consumers can keep non-compliant plans until 2017)
March

Since: Feb 07

Location hidden

#160211 Apr 4, 2014
Definitely not a year for a LEGACY Candidate.
his year wrote:
is this pauls year 2014.if so will he be a ok guy.
Well

Lexington, KY

#160212 Apr 4, 2014
Commietator wrote:
<quoted text>Holy crap!!! Just like Repubs forget the 2008 collapse ever happened I guess it slipped your mind about the 1929 Depression. That lasted until 1946.
What do you think caused the Great Depression? For that matter the Great Recession? Can the two of us agree that both were the result of federal intervention? Inept monetary policy by the Federal Reserve as well as massive government intervention by Hoover and FDR caused and aggravated the Great Depression. The Great Recession was caused by the cumulative effects of federal intervention in the housing market that spanned many years with it coming to a head in 2008. We would be much better off getting the government out of the economy. Think of it as separation of business and state.
Jay

Paris, TN

#160213 Apr 4, 2014
this ones for you wrote:
<quoted text> No my point was, if only the people who could afford health-care had it, it would be useless because the avenues for people who couldn't afford it or none of the other programs existed to help people...then diseases would over take us all. Besides if ER services were available to help an outbreak of any disease the lines would be so long they couldn't handle a rush of that magnitude anyway.
Peace
tofy
**********

Hi tofy.....

911.....medical people came out of the woodwork to help the dying and injured, and anyone who had any type of medical training helped those they could who were injured on the streets.

If you know anything about first responders, you know they never think of themselves when an emergency arises. I've personally been *there* most of my life.

It seems it takes a tragedy for this country to come together.

Since: Oct 09

.

#160214 Apr 4, 2014
Calvin_Coolish wrote:
<quoted text>
when did the math understanding republicans ever do that?
David Letterman called him "Na-Ging-Ga"! I call him Newt Gingrich.
Jay

Paris, TN

#160215 Apr 4, 2014
Commietator wrote:
<quoted text>Do you know why no one is refused treatment? Let me help you with that one.
.
A socialist commie President signed a LAW that forces all healthcare providers to treat everyone regardless of anything. i.e. illegal, non-payment.
Who was this commie socialist President that would do such a thing in America?
.
Ronald Reagan signed the Emergency Medical Treatment and Active Labor Act in 1986 forcing all providers to treat everyone.
**********

This government changes laws like it's citizens change their underwear. It's been a long time since Reagan dufus!

What is wrong with you? Maybe you'd like to go back another 100 years and tell us how they did it then!
Teahad

Wichita, KS

#160216 Apr 4, 2014
RepubliCONS wrote:
WATCH: Four Star General Destroys Fox News’ Claim That Arming Soldiers On Military Bases Would Prevent Shootings
Fox News invited retired four-star general Jack Keane to talk about the Ft. Hood shooting on their show, America’s News HQ, according to Media Matters for America. They may not have gotten what they wanted from him, though. Instead of saying,“Yes, absolutely, we need to make sure that all soldiers who want to be armed can be armed on post,” he said the following:
“I don’t believe our soldiers should be armed on the base.[…] Can you imagine the first responders coming on a scene, and there’s people shooting all over the place, and they have to determine who is friend and who is foe? I think the potential for leading to more violence by arming everybody is rather significant.”
He went on to say that soldiers are not police, and aren’t trained in how to control and de-escalate a situation the way police are. Which is true. There’s no way to know how these soldiers would have reacted to Ivan Lopez shooting them. Ft. Hood is not a war zone, and Lopez was not an enemy combatant.
Tragedies like Ft. Hood might be considerably worse if everyone is armed.
He also makes a good point about possible shootouts. If someone walks onto a base and opens fire, that many people carrying their own guns could turn it into a shootout. Without knowing who’s whom in such a situation, those who come in later could potentially pull their guns out and start firing at the wrong people. That would just create more casualties. How much harder would the responding MP’s job have been if she’d arrived at a scene of chaos like that? How many more might have died?
The myth of shooters specifically targeting gun-free zones like Ft. Hood.
There is this growing myth about shooters targeting gun-free zones. After the Navy Yard shooting, conservatives started loudly claiming that if military bases weren’t gun-free zones, then the Navy Yard shooting wouldn’t have happened. That’s what the pundits on Fox & Friends are saying about Ft. Hood, too. They think there’s logic to that, but logic must stand up to facts and data, too. The truth is that some of the victims at the Navy Yard shooting were, in fact, armed personnel.
The woman who stopped Lopez at Ft. Hood was an MP; she was trained to handle those situations. There’s no way to gauge how quickly and effectively the soldiers who were shot at would have reacted, had they been armed, because they didn’t have that training. They were also probably caught by surprise.
Lax gun regulation does not lead to less gun violence.
There’s also data to support the idea that more guns do not lead to less violence. The Center for American Progress did a report on gun laws in all 50 states in 2013, which cites other studies and reports. It highlights a link between weak gun laws and high gun violence. They do note that correlation is not causation, which is true. But that’s a correlation that should not be ignored, especially in light of General Keane’s comments on Ft. Hood.
The idea that more guns are the answer to tragedies like Ft. Hood is absurd on its face, because it grossly oversimplifies a very complex problem. It also assumes that every shooter is in his right mind, and carefully evaluating things the way that “normal” people do, and that armed people will be able to respond calmly and appropriately. As General Keane pointed out, more guns on bases could lead to significantly more problems during a shooting. Will the right-wing gun nuts listen, though? Probably not.
Watch the video:
http://www.addictinginfo.org/2014/04/03/watch...
Typical repuke mentality. Arm everyone so the MP's don't know who is who. How ignorant.
RIP GOP
DITCH MITCH
LMAO!!! I fail to see the validity of your post, since one can't carry a privately owned concealed weapon on post. A question was asked and answered. NBFD

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